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2014-07-11 08:34:14 AM  
One might think that Darwin would be more popular in Missouri.
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2014-07-11 08:56:37 AM  
I was certain that was a euphemism.
 
2014-07-11 09:19:49 AM  
Dammit it was too late he already had kids.
 
2014-07-11 09:21:41 AM  

DrunkenYodaZen: Dammit it was too late he already had kids.


We can hope that mom had some better quality genes to give them.
 
2014-07-11 09:22:34 AM  

DrunkenYodaZen: Dammit it was too late he already had kids.


Yeah, it's all up to nurture now.
 
2014-07-11 09:22:47 AM  
"Kids, I obviously don't know anything about snakes, so let me pick this one up for you."

/copperhead bites are only rarely fatal, but still...
 
2014-07-11 09:24:10 AM  
Spiders and snakes. Don't be stupid, just nuke 'em.
 
2014-07-11 09:25:21 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Spiders and snakes. Don't be stupid, just nuke 'em.


Let the snake get its fill on spiders and then kill the snake. A twofer!
 
2014-07-11 09:25:53 AM  
Being a soccer coach, I am surprised he didn't use his feet.
 
2014-07-11 09:26:29 AM  
As a kid I used to poke them with sticks and try to pick them up.  Never was able to pick one up, they run away pretty fast or my father would kill them first.
 
2014-07-11 09:26:47 AM  
What possesses someone to pick up wild animals? I just don't get at what point that seems like a good idea to anyone.

Isn't one of Aesop's fables about not picking up snakes? People had this figured out three thousand years ago, but this dumb ass wasn't in the loop.
 
2014-07-11 09:26:53 AM  
Unless the snake is all green or all black, the only thing you use to touch a snake is a damn long stick, the bottom of your boot or a bullet.  What the hell was this guy thinking?


/// Shot 12 Water moccasins one day.  .22 bird shot is fun with snakes in the water or on the land.
//// Very quiet too.
 
2014-07-11 09:26:56 AM  
People complaining in this thread remind me of the people who said that Steve Irwin deserved what he got for daring to swim with stingrays.

Even if he knew what it was, copperhead bites are rarely fatal.
 
2014-07-11 09:29:49 AM  
Frowns on his shenanigans
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2014-07-11 09:31:04 AM  

bucket_pup: Unless the snake is all green or all black, the only thing you use to touch a snake is a damn long stick, the bottom of your boot or a bullet.  What the hell was this guy thinking?


/// Shot 12 Water moccasins one day.  .22 bird shot is fun with snakes in the water or on the land.
//// Very quiet too.


You know you can just shoo them away or avoid them, right?
 
2014-07-11 09:31:19 AM  
Here boy, hold my beer.
 
2014-07-11 09:31:59 AM  

rev. dave: As a kid I used to poke them with sticks and try to pick them up.  Never was able to pick one up, they run away pretty fast or my father would kill them first.


If I would have played with snakes my Dad would have killed me for doing something stupid.
 
2014-07-11 09:33:10 AM  
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2014-07-11 09:33:45 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: bucket_pup: Unless the snake is all green or all black, the only thing you use to touch a snake is a damn long stick, the bottom of your boot or a bullet.  What the hell was this guy thinking?


/// Shot 12 Water moccasins one day.  .22 bird shot is fun with snakes in the water or on the land.
//// Very quiet too.

You know you can just shoo them away or avoid them, right?


Oh c'mon now, some people just like killin' critters for fun. Dincha know that or are you just ignorant.
 
2014-07-11 09:34:03 AM  
Based on the description it was a juvenile snake and multiple bites. Copperheads aren't often fatal to adults in good health but he picked about the worst he could get other than a nest of fresh hatchlings.
 
2014-07-11 09:34:34 AM  

Diogenes: DrunkenYodaZen: Dammit it was too late he already had kids.

Yeah, it's all up to nurture now.


Nurture is a biatch.
 
2014-07-11 09:36:08 AM  
Well, that guy certainly got what was coming to him. Leave the damn snakes alone; the odds of getting bitten if you're not actively screwing with a snake are extremely low. Copperheads eat mice and voles, and rodent-borne diseases kill WAY more people than snakes ever could.

/Was raised to kill copperheads on sight
//Learned better
 
2014-07-11 09:36:17 AM  
Well, it IS the "show me" state. What the hell was he supposed to do, just TELL them that Copperheads are dangerous!?
 
2014-07-11 09:36:34 AM  

stvdallas: [i.imgur.com image 480x270]


Good showing, sir!
 
2014-07-11 09:37:13 AM  
I have no problem with this.
 
2014-07-11 09:38:34 AM  

JackieRabbit: "Kids, I obviously don't know anything about snakes, so let me pick this one up for you."

/copperhead bites are only rarely fatal, but still...


Yeah it's not a good practice unless you're sure you know what you're doing. It's a sad story, but with him having chest pains it sounds like he should have seen a doctor. That might have saved his life right there, since the bite might not have been fatal otherwise.
 
2014-07-11 09:40:28 AM  
You hardly ever saw Grandaddy down here
He only came to town about twice a year
 
2014-07-11 09:40:47 AM  

pyrotek85


Yeah it's not a good practice unless you're sure you know what you're doing. It's a sad story, but with him having chest pains it sounds like he should have seen a doctor. That might have saved his life right there, since the bite might not have been fatal otherwise.


Check again: chest pain guy was from another case in 2012.
 
2014-07-11 09:41:16 AM  

pyrotek85: JackieRabbit: "Kids, I obviously don't know anything about snakes, so let me pick this one up for you."

/copperhead bites are only rarely fatal, but still...

Yeah it's not a good practice unless you're sure you know what you're doing. It's a sad story, but with him having chest pains it sounds like he should have seen a doctor. That might have saved his life right there, since the bite might not have been fatal otherwise.


Different person.  The one who had the heart attack was bitten in 2012.

/lousy writing.
//idiot dad
 
2014-07-11 09:41:40 AM  
TL/DR: "Levins went over and picked the snake up, and it bit him.
 
2014-07-11 09:43:18 AM  

TwowheelinTim: Oh c'mon now, some people just like killin' critters for fun. Dincha know that or are you just ignorant ignant.


Fixed.
 
2014-07-11 09:43:18 AM  
And if the kids need psychiatric counseling,  tough luck.  Missouri is closing their youth psychiatric center.
 
2014-07-11 09:43:57 AM  
He died doing what he loved -- picking up venomous snakes as part of that snake handling cult he belonged to.
 
2014-07-11 09:44:57 AM  
ah, a true case of herp derp.
 
2014-07-11 09:45:29 AM  

pyrotek85: JackieRabbit: "Kids, I obviously don't know anything about snakes, so let me pick this one up for you."

/copperhead bites are only rarely fatal, but still...

Yeah it's not a good practice unless you're sure you know what you're doing unless you're a herpetologist doing legitimate research. It's a sad story, but with him having chest pains it sounds like he should have seen a doctor. That might have saved his life right there, since the bite might not have been fatal otherwise.


Even if you're an experienced snake handler, "Hey kids, let me pick up this snake and give you a closer look," is not a legitimate reason for handling a snake. You can look at it from 10 feet away and get the same nature lesson, and it doesn't stress the snake.
 
2014-07-11 09:46:01 AM  
Article says he was bitten 2 or 3 times. This indicates he not only tried to pick it up, but continued to fark with it after one bite. Sorry, but it look like his own dumbassery did him in, not the snake.
 
2014-07-11 09:46:42 AM  
*looks
 
2014-07-11 09:47:45 AM  
People kill snakes all the time for no reason. They keep down the mouse/rat populations and kill other stupid mammals. Here is advice about snakes: get the hell out of it's space and leave it alone. If it's in your house put your hand in a pillowcase, grab the snake and turn the pillow case the inside out then release it.
Darwin knows only idiots get bit by snakes if you know it's right there in front of your face and you're not a pentecostal minister and want to play with it.
 
2014-07-11 09:47:47 AM  

bucket_pup: Unless the snake is all green or all black, the only thing you use to touch a snake is a damn long stick, the bottom of your boot or a bullet.


That is pretty location dependent; there are plenty of all green or all black snakes that will ruin your day. And a bunch of multicolored ones that are harmless.
 
2014-07-11 09:51:35 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: One might think that Darwin would be more popular in Missouri.
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Well yes, but since he did breed and reproduce. One could only hope his offspring did not inherit his lack of intelligence
 
2014-07-11 09:52:24 AM  

Trance750: Because People in power are Stupid: One might think that Darwin would be more popular in Missouri.
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Well yes, but since he did breed and reproduce. One could only hope his offspring did not inherit his lack of intelligence


Hopefully they've learned a valuable lesson from this experience.
 
2014-07-11 09:54:35 AM  

bucket_pup: Unless the snake is all green or all black, the only thing you use to touch a snake is a damn long stick, the bottom of your boot or a bullet.  What the hell was this guy thinking?


/// Shot 12 Water moccasins one day.  .22 bird shot is fun with snakes in the water or on the land.
//// Very quiet too.


Unless you used to live somewhere more southern, those probably weren't water moccasins.
 
2014-07-11 09:56:43 AM  
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I couldn't find a picture of him as a snake handler.
 
2014-07-11 09:58:04 AM  
About a fourth of bites are "dry," meaning the snakes don't inject venom.

it bit Levins about two or three times.



Three out of four snakes recommend venom on the first bite for those who chew humans.  But all recommend it if the human hasn't learned by the time of the third bite.
 
2014-07-11 09:59:24 AM  

pyrotek85: JackieRabbit: "Kids, I obviously don't know anything about snakes, so let me pick this one up for you."

/copperhead bites are only rarely fatal, but still...

Yeah it's not a good practice unless you're sure you know what you're doing. It's a sad story, but with him having chest pains it sounds like he should have seen a doctor. That might have saved his life right there, since the bite might not have been fatal otherwise.


I learned as much about snakes as I could as a boy. I lived in their territory, so I thought it a good idea. I have never been bitten. I have never killed a snake. There is no reason to. If you leave them alone, they will leave you alone. We aren't their prey and they won't waste expensive venom on us if they don't have too. Even a rattlesnake will give you ample warning to GTFO. Most snake bites occur because the bitee ignores the warnings or bumbles mindlessly through their habitat and steps on them.
 
2014-07-11 09:59:59 AM  
Sad that the kids had to witness that.  He wasn't bright to pick up the snake, but I can't help feel sorry for someone who was out spending quality time with his family, only to die.
 
2014-07-11 10:01:02 AM  
In regard to snakes in the wild:  For the most part, if the head is shaped like an arrowhead, it has venom sacs so don't mess with it!  If the head is relatively streamlined, it's likely an insectivore.  Don't mess with that either!

In fact, if it's any animal out in the wild, just leave it alone unless there is a true level of danger.  They won't bother you if you don't bother them!  There are exceptions to every rule, though, so YMMV.
 
2014-07-11 10:01:28 AM  

LoneVVolf: And a bunch of multicolored ones that are harmless.


I had a boss here in FL once tell me that over the weekend he was replacing his mulch and uncovered a snake that was black, yellow, and red.  So he tried to remember the old rhyme that tells you whether it's a coral snake or milksnake.

I said that by the time he'd remembered the right rhyme I would have already been a mile down the road.
 
2014-07-11 10:02:51 AM  

LazyMedia: Well, that guy certainly got what was coming to him. Leave the damn snakes alone; the odds of getting bitten if you're not actively screwing with a snake are extremely low. Copperheads eat mice and voles, and rodent-borne diseases kill WAY more people than snakes ever could.

/Was raised to kill copperheads on sight
//Learned better


Plus, it usually takes a bit to piss a copperhead off. I've stepped over one. with the copperhead not even caring.
 
2014-07-11 10:07:04 AM  

Erix: bucket_pup: Unless the snake is all green or all black, the only thing you use to touch a snake is a damn long stick, the bottom of your boot or a bullet.  What the hell was this guy thinking?


/// Shot 12 Water moccasins one day.  .22 bird shot is fun with snakes in the water or on the land.
//// Very quiet too.

Unless you used to live somewhere more southern, those probably weren't water moccasins.


Hicks frequently refer to any aquatic snake as a water moccasin. Usually, it's a northern water snake, a harmless constrictor that is more common than the venomous cottonmouth. You can't tell from the color; they're very similar.

Water moccasin:

www.kingsleylake.org

Not a water moccasin:

www2.sluh.org
 
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