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(ESPN)   That tearing sound you heard was Tanaka's elbow, although it may also have been advertisers ripping up contracts for World Series spots as the prospect of a Brewers-A's fall classic looms large   (espn.go.com) divider line 72
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2014-07-11 01:12:08 AM  
After observing this season's selection of national airings, if the World Series does indeed end up being the Brewers vs. the A's, I'm convinced a Yankees game will be televised.

farking go Oakland!
 
2014-07-11 03:02:18 AM  
I doubt either Milwaukee or Oakland will be in the World Series. Milwaukee seems to be coming back to earth & had lost five straight. Oakland has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs in the Billy Beane era.

I think it will probably be the Dodgers & Detroit in WS.
 
2014-07-11 06:27:18 AM  
The Yankees are .500 and in third place. Even with Tanaka, the Yankees weren't going to the World Series.
The A's? Yeah, I can see Billy Moneyball finally getting his ring. But the Brewers? Meh. Many teams have had surprising first halves, only to finish out of the postseason. I'll hold off.
 
2014-07-11 06:58:52 AM  
There's the ball, Toronto! Pick it up!! What? Don't drop it! Oh My GOD!!!!!! YOU HOSERS!
 
2014-07-11 07:31:45 AM  
Yankees were gonna make it anyways.
 
2014-07-11 07:32:32 AM  
Weren't*
 
2014-07-11 07:33:33 AM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: I doubt either Milwaukee or Oakland will be in the World Series. Milwaukee seems to be coming back to earth & had lost five straight. Oakland has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs in the Billy Beane era.

I think it will probably be the Dodgers & Detroit in WS.


I don't know. Oakland's pitching staff is insane, and they went and made it even stronger with Smarjida, or however you spell his name.
 
2014-07-11 07:33:44 AM  
A's/ nats or dodgers world series.
 
2014-07-11 07:45:12 AM  

SlothB77: A's/ nats or dodgers world series.


Don't have a problem with this.
 
2014-07-11 07:48:56 AM  
Brewers have lost nine of ten and have a series coming up with the Cardinals who they've always struggled against.
 
2014-07-11 08:07:59 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: Brewers have lost nine of ten and have a series coming up with the Cardinals who they've always struggled against.


But, but...Hank the wonder dog!  It's fate!
 
2014-07-11 08:13:14 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: Brewers have lost nine of ten and have a series coming up with the Cardinals who they've always struggled against.


Whole lot of this. Watching them suck and blow at the same time vs the Phillies was painful. Hopefully they can stay .500 for month of July and start pushing back in Aug. But I am a Brewers fan so I know we will be in 3rd place by Aug 15
 
2014-07-11 08:23:13 AM  
The A's are built for the regular season, only to lose in the playoffs.
 
2014-07-11 08:24:43 AM  

ongbok: Straight Outta Wells Branch: I doubt either Milwaukee or Oakland will be in the World Series. Milwaukee seems to be coming back to earth & had lost five straight. Oakland has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs in the Billy Beane era.

I think it will probably be the Dodgers & Detroit in WS.

I don't know. Oakland's pitching staff is insane, and they went and made it even stronger with Smarjida, or however you spell his name.


Well...most of their pitchers are. JJ is having trouble and making 500k less than Cespedes (the highest paid player on the A's).
 
2014-07-11 08:24:52 AM  
Oakland chokes and Milwaukee will come down/is coming down to Earth.  Don't count out the Cardinals/Dodgers, or, well, just about any team in the AL besides Tampa or Texas (I won't even count the Astros out yet because of the way they played in June against some of the best teams in baseball even though they're like 20 games back in the West/10 from the wild card, and yes I'm a homer).
 
2014-07-11 08:35:15 AM  
That would require Cespedes to put together two good games in a row.  He's been a goddamn seismograph all year.

I'm rooting hard for the Brewers, though.  Rob Wooten is a local guy; grew up in Wayne County, played for C.B. Aycock right down US-117, and even played here for the Tobs in 2004.
 
2014-07-11 08:41:41 AM  

ChrisDe: The A's are built for the regular season, only to lose in the playoffs.


..and it's done so intentionally. Beane's philosophy has always been that the playoffs are a crapshoot anyway, so the only goal is to just get there.
 
2014-07-11 08:41:47 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: There's the ball, Toronto! Pick it up!! What? Don't drop it! Oh My GOD!!!!!! YOU HOSERS!


They wouldn't just drop it, they'd hurt themselves picking it up, throw it for a game losing error, and the 1b would get plowed over by the runner and concussed.

/we're by no means in a bad place but the dl is stacking up
//hopefully morrow can light up the second half
 
2014-07-11 08:48:55 AM  
The newest Twenty Year Cycle of SuckTM for the Yankees has begun.  The only consolation is that they're not the worst New York baseball team.  Sigh.
 
2014-07-11 08:59:05 AM  

The Bestest: ChrisDe: The A's are built for the regular season, only to lose in the playoffs.

..and it's done so intentionally. Beane's philosophy has always been that the playoffs are a crapshoot anyway, so the only goal is to just get there.


The Samardjiza trade looks like an attempt to improve the odds in the post-season, though.  They now have a solid three-starter rotation for the postseason.

/plus Chavez, who I'm not convinced is a viable starter, much less a #3 ahead of Samardjiza
 
2014-07-11 09:15:41 AM  

ChrisDe: The A's are built for the regular season, only to lose in the playoffs.


since they beefed up their pitching with Hammel and Samardadjgziadjgzia, i dunno.  That becomes a pretty deep, potent starting five now.
 
2014-07-11 09:17:39 AM  

Marisyana: The newest Twenty Year Cycle of SuckTM for the Yankees has begun.  The only consolation is that they're not the worst New York baseball team.  Sigh.


I'm ok with this.
 
2014-07-11 09:27:04 AM  
Calling a WS winner in July is like calling a SB winner after week 3 of preseason.
 
2014-07-11 09:27:18 AM  

SlothB77: That becomes a pretty deep, potent starting five now.


All they need is another post-Game-2 earthquake so they can use their #1 and #2 starters in games 3 and 4.
 
2014-07-11 09:30:37 AM  

Marisyana: The newest Twenty Year Cycle of SuckTM for the Yankees has begun.  The only consolation is that they're not the worst New York baseball team.  Sigh.


Oh, spare us. You realize that 14 years is the longest they've gone between postseason appearances since Babe Ruth came to town, right?
 
2014-07-11 09:38:00 AM  

Marisyana: The newest Twenty Year Cycle of SuckTM for the Yankees has begun.  The only consolation is that they're not the worst New York baseball team.  Sigh.


Eh, I doubt it will take more than a few years to turn things around. The A-Rod and Sabathia contracts expiring will be a great boon to the team. Especially if Nova and Pineda come back and really starts living up to their potential.
 
2014-07-11 09:44:58 AM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: I doubt either Milwaukee or Oakland will be in the World Series. Milwaukee seems to be coming back to earth & had lost five straight. Oakland has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs in the Billy Beane era.

I think it will probably be the Dodgers & Detroit in WS.


Oakland beat the twins in 2006 then got swept by the Tigers
 
2014-07-11 09:47:37 AM  

ElwoodCuse: Straight Outta Wells Branch: I doubt either Milwaukee or Oakland will be in the World Series. Milwaukee seems to be coming back to earth & had lost five straight. Oakland has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs in the Billy Beane era.

I think it will probably be the Dodgers & Detroit in WS.

Oakland beat the twins in 2006 then got swept by the Tigers


ww3.hdnux.com
 
2014-07-11 09:51:21 AM  

idesofmarch: Eh, I doubt it will take more than a few years to turn things around. The A-Rod and Sabathia contracts expiring will be a great boon to the team. Especially if Nova and Pineda come back and really starts living up to their potential.


Next year certainly looks bad, but I agree, 2016 and beyond, assuming Cashman/Levine/Hank/Hal don't do something stupid should be alright.
There's talk of just buying CC out if he can't come back (and his contract is insured). A-Rod can be a $30M 3B for Scranton for the rest of his career as far as I care. If Nova (though his contract is up) Pineda and Tanaka come back healthy for 2016, that should be a potent rotation.
 
2014-07-11 09:57:42 AM  

The Bestest: Next year certainly looks bad, but I agree, 2016 and beyond, assuming Cashman/Levine/Hank/Hal don't do something stupid should be alright.


Bolded/underlined the biggest problem with your statement right there.

\not that Cherrington/Lucchino/Henry are doing much better, but still, never underestimate the power of the Steinbrenner.
 
2014-07-11 09:58:21 AM  
Its too soon to celebrate Yankee Elimination Day. It is time to start looking in the attic for the YED decorations though.
 
2014-07-11 10:02:01 AM  

BunkoSquad: Marisyana: The newest Twenty Year Cycle of SuckTM for the Yankees has begun.  The only consolation is that they're not the worst New York baseball team.  Sigh.

Oh, spare us. You realize that 14 years is the longest they've gone between postseason appearances since Babe Ruth came to town, right?


I'd prefer not to root for the 1982-1993 Yankees ever again.
 
2014-07-11 10:04:38 AM  

The Bestest: A-Rod can be a $30M 3B for Scranton for the rest of his career as far as I care.


God that would be great. Then I could drive down a few times each summer and boo him in person.
 
2014-07-11 10:08:11 AM  

SlothB77: A's/ nats or dodgers world series.


BREAKING: In related news, the A's, Nats and Dodgers have just resigned from the 2014 season, refunded all tickets, and traded anyone making more than $2M annually for prospects.  Billy Beane told reporters "When the fark has SlothB77 ever been right in his life?  He's the Oracle of Delphi, except cursed by Zeus to be fractally wrong and forcing everyone else on Fark to push his threadshiat-boulders up the page for eternity.  Seriously-- Nietzsche once read one of his posts and was found in the fetal position mumbling "The post also gazes into you."  Remember when he told us all "When Romney wins, it is threads like this that Fark.com will delete and farkers everyone will pretend never existed." on Election Day, 2012?  That colossal wreck was only the 43rd dumbest thing he typed that day."
 
2014-07-11 10:40:40 AM  

thecpt: Tr0mBoNe: There's the ball, Toronto! Pick it up!! What? Don't drop it! Oh My GOD!!!!!! YOU HOSERS!

They wouldn't just drop it, they'd hurt themselves picking it up, throw it for a game losing error, and the 1b would get plowed over by the runner and concussed.

/we're by no means in a bad place but the dl is stacking up
//hopefully morrow can light up the second half


They need outside pitching help. Morrow's done, and even if he comes back I'd be terrified he'd strain a testicle in the middle of a playoff start and have a meltdown. I don't know who they'd get, though. They'd have to gut the farm system for Price, they can't afford Cliff Lee, and I'm not sure Ian Kennedy is any good outside Petco. That leaves Bartolo Colon, I guess?

I would like to see them go after Daniel Murphy to fill the hole at second. They'd have the best offence in baseball once EE and Lawrie are back for the stretch run, and just have to hope Hutch and Stroman can handle the workload.
 
2014-07-11 11:09:18 AM  

neon_god: thecpt: Tr0mBoNe: There's the ball, Toronto! Pick it up!! What? Don't drop it! Oh My GOD!!!!!! YOU HOSERS!

They wouldn't just drop it, they'd hurt themselves picking it up, throw it for a game losing error, and the 1b would get plowed over by the runner and concussed.

/we're by no means in a bad place but the dl is stacking up
//hopefully morrow can light up the second half

They need outside pitching help. Morrow's done, and even if he comes back I'd be terrified he'd strain a testicle in the middle of a playoff start and have a meltdown. I don't know who they'd get, though. They'd have to gut the farm system for Price, they can't afford Cliff Lee, and I'm not sure Ian Kennedy is any good outside Petco. That leaves Bartolo Colon, I guess?

I would like to see them go after Daniel Murphy to fill the hole at second. They'd have the best offence in baseball once EE and Lawrie are back for the stretch run, and just have to hope Hutch and Stroman can handle the workload.


I'm kind of tired of hearing "we need pitching" for the reason of seriously else can we give up in the farm system? Sanchez? Norris? We are NOT letting go of stro or hutch.

I think the route is finding a 2b or 3b like you said. Headley I hear as the target but the lack of fruition on that makes it sound like the leaked info of samadiazerbijian. That they want WAY too much.

AA is in a position the jays haven't seen in I don't know forever. Reimhold was an awesomely smart move for depth and power. I hope he gets credit for that
 
2014-07-11 11:24:29 AM  
Do these pinstripes make my payroll look fat?
 
2014-07-11 11:25:38 AM  

thecpt: I'm kind of tired of hearing "we need pitching" for the reason of seriously else can we give up in the farm system? Sanchez? Norris? We are NOT letting go of stro or hutch.

I think the route is finding a 2b or 3b like you said. Headley I hear as the target but the lack of fruition on that makes it sound like the leaked info of samadiazerbijian. That they want WAY too much.

AA is in a position the jays haven't seen in I don't know forever. Reimhold was an awesomely smart move for depth and power. I hope he gets credit for that


The Jays can get by with league average pitching if their offense gets back to where it was in May. We don't have a 2B but will have to pay out of the nose for one. We're basically screwed in the minors for any top flight middle infielders in the pipeline so it's not going to be an easy fix. Normally, just saying get a big bat is the cheaters way out... but in this case it makes sense. We have plenty of places a bat can go now that Lind is out for a while.

Headly would be an interesting addition... at least his Away splits are reasonable. Not sure about his durability so he may end up improving our DL team.
 
2014-07-11 11:39:19 AM  
And as usual nobody mentions the Orioles despite being in first place, going 8-2 over their last 10 and taking 2/3 from cross-town rival (and SI's pick to win the WS) Washington. I'm actually fine with this since this team plays better with a chip on its shoulder, but it's amazing how little respect/coverage they get from the national media.

Go O's hon!!
 
2014-07-11 11:45:42 AM  

danfrank: And as usual nobody mentions the Orioles despite being in first place, going 8-2 over their last 10 and taking 2/3 from cross-town rival (and SI's pick to win the WS) Washington. I'm actually fine with this since this team plays better with a chip on its shoulder, but it's amazing how little respect/coverage they get from the national media.

Go O's hon!!


Don't for a second think that all of Canada (and one American) aren't frowning upon the shenanigans of bird land south
 
2014-07-11 11:45:58 AM  

danfrank: And as usual nobody mentions the Orioles despite being in first place, going 8-2 over their last 10 and taking 2/3 from cross-town rival (and SI's pick to win the WS) Washington. I'm actually fine with this since this team plays better with a chip on its shoulder, but it's amazing how little respect/coverage they get from the national media.

Go O's hon!!


I don't see the Os winning a post-season series. They're my pick to take the AL East, though.
 
2014-07-11 11:49:21 AM  
Well that didn't take long.
 
2014-07-11 11:49:46 AM  
A's should make a deep postseason run. Great, great pitching bolstered by picking up Jeff Smardzija - he's the kind of guy who won't get rattled in the postseason, and he's in his prime.  That was a great trade for both teams.
 
2014-07-11 11:51:27 AM  

thecpt: neon_god: thecpt: Tr0mBoNe: There's the ball, Toronto! Pick it up!! What? Don't drop it! Oh My GOD!!!!!! YOU HOSERS!

They wouldn't just drop it, they'd hurt themselves picking it up, throw it for a game losing error, and the 1b would get plowed over by the runner and concussed.

/we're by no means in a bad place but the dl is stacking up
//hopefully morrow can light up the second half

They need outside pitching help. Morrow's done, and even if he comes back I'd be terrified he'd strain a testicle in the middle of a playoff start and have a meltdown. I don't know who they'd get, though. They'd have to gut the farm system for Price, they can't afford Cliff Lee, and I'm not sure Ian Kennedy is any good outside Petco. That leaves Bartolo Colon, I guess?

I would like to see them go after Daniel Murphy to fill the hole at second. They'd have the best offence in baseball once EE and Lawrie are back for the stretch run, and just have to hope Hutch and Stroman can handle the workload.

I'm kind of tired of hearing "we need pitching" for the reason of seriously else can we give up in the farm system? Sanchez? Norris? We are NOT letting go of stro or hutch.

I think the route is finding a 2b or 3b like you said. Headley I hear as the target but the lack of fruition on that makes it sound like the leaked info of samadiazerbijian. That they want WAY too much.

AA is in a position the jays haven't seen in I don't know forever. Reimhold was an awesomely smart move for depth and power. I hope he gets credit for that


Yeah, I agree with that, although I think it might be time to sell on Sanchez while his prospect stock is hot. Stro and Hutch should be untouchable unless someone makes a stupid offer. Norris too, given how amazingly he's progressed this year. Taylor Cole could be flipped, I guess, although he's put up the exact same numbers as Norris in A+, so he's hard to let go of. Then Pompey, I guess? Pentacost is untouchable given how desperate they are for a long term answer at catcher.

I have no idea how the Cubs thought they could get Stro, Hutch AND Sanchez or Norris. I mean, the As paid a lot but that's on a whole other level.

You're right that the front office has tough choices to make. On the one hand, they're a starter and maybe a 2b or 3b away from legitimate contention for the first time in 20 years, and the current stars are nearing the end of their window. OTOH, it's hard to break uo the farm when you see the seeds of what looks like the best young rotation in baseball 2-3 years away. I'm generally an AA fan, so I trust they'll figure something out.
 
2014-07-11 11:52:46 AM  

danfrank: as usual nobody mentions the Orioles


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAJKHBjsw64
 
2014-07-11 11:59:38 AM  

The Bestest: Next year certainly looks bad, but I agree, 2016 and beyond, assuming Cashman/Levine/Hank/Hal don't do something stupid should be alright.
There's talk of just buying CC out if he can't come back (and his contract is insured). A-Rod can be a $30M 3B for Scranton for the rest of his career as far as I care. If Nova (though his contract is up) Pineda and Tanaka come back healthy for 2016, that should be a potent rotation


Yankees probably wish they hadn't dumped Jose Quintana.
 
2014-07-11 12:06:52 PM  

danfrank: And as usual nobody mentions the Orioles despite being in first place, going 8-2 over their last 10 and taking 2/3 from cross-town rival (and SI's pick to win the WS) Washington. I'm actually fine with this since this team plays better with a chip on its shoulder, but it's amazing how little respect/coverage they get from the national media.

Go O's hon!!


They don't have the pitching.
 
2014-07-11 12:19:46 PM  
Molina's out and that means the Cards will struggle, so the Brewers have a solid chance to come out on top of the NL. I'm expecting them to take the series this weekend or only drop 1 game.

The only other team that worries me in the NL is the Dodgers. Look back at the past World Series winners - they all had major losing streaks at one point in the season. I forget the numbers, but some stat nerd from the Brewers pointed this out. Also, Wei-Chung Wang has been placed on the DL with "shoulder tenderness" or something like that, so a space will be freed up for someone who doesn't suck so bad.
 
2014-07-11 12:23:25 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: thecpt: I'm kind of tired of hearing "we need pitching" for the reason of seriously else can we give up in the farm system? Sanchez? Norris? We are NOT letting go of stro or hutch.

I think the route is finding a 2b or 3b like you said. Headley I hear as the target but the lack of fruition on that makes it sound like the leaked info of samadiazerbijian. That they want WAY too much.

AA is in a position the jays haven't seen in I don't know forever. Reimhold was an awesomely smart move for depth and power. I hope he gets credit for that

The Jays can get by with league average pitching if their offense gets back to where it was in May. We don't have a 2B but will have to pay out of the nose for one. We're basically screwed in the minors for any top flight middle infielders in the pipeline so it's not going to be an easy fix. Normally, just saying get a big bat is the cheaters way out... but in this case it makes sense. We have plenty of places a bat can go now that Lind is out for a while.

Headly would be an interesting addition... at least his Away splits are reasonable. Not sure about his durability so he may end up improving our DL team.


I hadn't thought of Headley, but he'd be a great choice. Very good bat, good glove, and he'd be a prime candidate for a power explosion if he got to trade Petco for Skydome. He's having a down year due to a bad BABIP and low walk rate, but all the peripheral stats (contact, chase rate, swing and miss rate, line drive rate) suggest he should be primed to get back to his usual production level any day now. The problem is he's a rental the Jays probably couldn't keep. You probably don't want to give up a grade A prospect for that.
 
2014-07-11 12:36:11 PM  

Mateorocks: danfrank: And as usual nobody mentions the Orioles despite being in first place, going 8-2 over their last 10 and taking 2/3 from cross-town rival (and SI's pick to win the WS) Washington. I'm actually fine with this since this team plays better with a chip on its shoulder, but it's amazing how little respect/coverage they get from the national media.

Go O's hon!!

They don't have the pitching.


Maybe not, but that's not my point. The O's are rolling and are in first place (despite getting zilch from Jimenez and Chris Davis), but all ESPN can talk about is Tanaka and Red Sox walk off win.

Yes, I realize the Sawx won the WS and all, but I just want a LITTLE recognition for what's happening right now.

No respect, no respect at all.
 
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