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2014-07-10 09:34:46 PM
11 votes:
This is abhorrent. Cops should not just be able to walk away from serious attempts to produce child pornography through forcible rape and neither should the judge, prosecutor, or anyone else who was complacent with this plan.
2014-07-10 09:45:40 PM
10 votes:
I mean, if I go to a gun shop and say "I need a good shotgun for a bank robbery." that alone is a crime. If the gun shop sells me the gun, knowing I've declared to rob a bank with it. That's another crime. Even if I then say "I've changed my mind." or "I was just kidding." IT'S STILL A CRIME.

These people tried to do something so far beyond the pale even the mere preliminary steps they took to do it should warrant felony sex offenses, dishonorable discharges, and a nice kick in the groin with a heavy boot from an NFL kicker. If they had actually carried out the plan, the death penalty would not be out of line, because they were not just raping a minor to produce pornography but using the government's authority to do it. That's beyond one victim. That's a crime against the fabric of society itself.

They basically tried to do the worst possible thing a body can do short of full on active wartime treason.
2014-07-10 10:21:57 PM
7 votes:
Gotta love that they are charging him as an adult for taking pictures of himself as a minor.

So according to the state, for the purposes of this crime, he is both a minor and an adult.
2014-07-10 10:56:23 PM
6 votes:

ArkAngel: Gotta love that they are charging him as an adult for taking pictures of himself as a minor.

So according to the state, for the purposes of this crime, he is both a minor and an adult.


Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't put that together myself.

"So I'm an adult? And I took pictures of an adult cock?"
"Oh no? I took pictures of a minor's cock? So I'm a minor?"

It's funny how different this century's paradoxes are compared to the last century.
2014-07-11 12:33:46 PM
4 votes:
Let's be clear on what the issue is here. Its not so much about the sexting, and who initiated it, or why only one party is being charged, its about the abuse of authority by law enforcement.

The sad thing about the American policing system is that it is made up of individual local police forces, which sometimes appear to be little more than gangs with official authority and power to do whatever they want.

The quality and level of policing, in general, in many other countries differs largely due to the fact that there is a vertical system of accountability going right up to the minister of police, or whatever that particular country wishes to call the incumbent official.

Under a system like that, a case like this would result in that top official having to answer very awkward questions. Having being put in the position of having to answer those awkward questions does not bode well at all for the local officer/s who may have overstepped their jurisdiction. It does in effect serve to be far more self-regulating because it cannot easily be swept under the table by a closing of ranks of the local "brotherhood".

This is not to detract from the excellent work and professionalism shown by the majority of US police forces, but it does show how bad apples can last far longer in the US than they can in many other countries.

If nothing, or little further comes from this debacle, it will be proof in itself of how the "system" can sweep abuse under the carpet.
2014-07-11 12:39:33 PM
3 votes:
A 17 year old and a 15 year old sexting and we are going to waste resources persecuting them? I blame the parents of the 15 year old for contacting the police over the matter instead of handling their daughter's stupidity themselves.

Now if the 17 year old or the 15 year old started passing around the pictures then I could see involving law enforcement, but as it stands now we just ruined two lives for no good reason.

America get over your issues with nudity and teenage sexual development.
2014-07-11 12:05:17 AM
3 votes:

doglover: This is abhorrent. Cops should not just be able to walk away from serious attempts to produce child pornography through forcible rape and neither should the judge, prosecutor, or anyone else who was complacent with this plan.


Police caught doing this in the past have settled the resulting lawsuits and admitted no wrongdoing. The only thing that stopped this was the public outcry because it involved a minor.
2014-07-10 11:13:39 PM
3 votes:
I like to imagine that that PD got so many phone calls and angry emails that their IT systems went into hebie-jeebies and broke down utterly.

The stupidity of that idea, no to mention the entire idea that a mutual exchange of nudie photos is somehow wrong...I mean, if they play doctor in person, it's a lesser crime.

Hopefully a few more of these beyond stupid cases will finally allow some common sense to prevail, but I sure doubt it, our capacity for Dumas seems to be unlimited.
2014-07-10 11:12:11 PM
3 votes:
Ok,  now drop the whole damn stupid case.

/or charge the girl too.
//really just drop the case you farkups.
2014-07-11 06:27:46 AM
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: McLean Virginia sure does have some sick, sick cops.


FTA: If convicted of the felony charges, the teen could be listed as a sex offender for life.  "

That would;d give those sanctimonious sex-hating limp-dicked busybodies a greater thrill that anything you could imagine.

Damn I hate prudes with the intensity of a million white-hot stars.
2014-07-11 02:49:04 AM
2 votes:

davidphogan: vicioushobbit: I can see it being called assault, but I don't really see how forcing somebody to have an erection is rape, unless you did something to the erection.  Taking photos of it makes the cops child pornographers, not rapists.  They do plenty of actual rape, dont' get me wrong, but I don't see how THIS is rape.

If a woman is held down and stripped against her will, while being drugs forced hormones before taking photographs, wouldn't you think that might be raped in some sense of the word?

Isn't rape about being empowered against someone weaker than you?  Like, maybe a teenager in police custody being force-fed drugs while stripped naked?


It's assault, but not rape. Penetration of some sort, they to her or otherwise forcing her to do acts, would be. What they wanted to do was assault (which medical treatment without consent technically is, if I recall) and child pornography.

Look, as a woman who frequently gets into arguments about rape, rape culture, and sexism, I can honestly say that while I find what they wanted to do illegal and abhorrent, it is not rape.
2014-07-11 02:13:07 AM
2 votes:

vicioushobbit: I can see it being called assault, but I don't really see how forcing somebody to have an erection is rape, unless you did something to the erection.  Taking photos of it makes the cops child pornographers, not rapists.  They do plenty of actual rape, dont' get me wrong, but I don't see how THIS is rape.


If a woman is held down and stripped against her will, while being drugs forced hormones before taking photographs, wouldn't you think that might be raped in some sense of the word?

Isn't rape about being empowered against someone weaker than you?  Like, maybe a teenager in police custody being force-fed drugs while stripped naked?
2014-07-10 11:43:17 PM
2 votes:

CruJones: Why is she not also being charged?  They both made, sent, and received pictures of underage people.

The girls mom must be a biatch to go this far.


Haven't you heard?  Girls can only be victims.  Boys can only be perpetrators.  Had he reported any illicit pictures she sent him, they would have just added the charges of possessing child porn.
2014-07-10 11:41:12 PM
2 votes:
Why is she not also being charged?  They both made, sent, and received pictures of underage people.

The girls mom must be a biatch to go this far.
2014-07-10 11:29:07 PM
2 votes:

Por que tan serioso: doglover: I mean, if I go to a gun shop and say "I need a good shotgun for a bank robbery." that alone is a crime. If the gun shop sells me the gun, knowing I've declared to rob a bank with it. That's another crime. Even if I then say "I've changed my mind." or "I was just kidding." IT'S STILL A CRIME.

These people tried to do something so far beyond the pale even the mere preliminary steps they took to do it should warrant felony sex offenses, dishonorable discharges, and a nice kick in the groin with a heavy boot from an NFL kicker. If they had actually carried out the plan, the death penalty would not be out of line, because they were not just raping a minor to produce pornography but using the government's authority to do it. That's beyond one victim. That's a crime against the fabric of society itself.

They basically tried to do the worst possible thing a body can do short of full on active wartime treason.

Nope. Barelyin the second scenario you mention and abandoning it later makes that ok too. I. E. Taking a 'substantial step' towards committing a future crime by drawing the gun shop into some pseudo conspiracy. But dont let your lack of knowledge or understanding of the law stand in the way of educating us with the ass blather spewing from your mouth.


At least he speaks English.
2014-07-10 11:23:53 PM
2 votes:

bmwericus: The stupidity of that idea, no to mention the entire idea that a mutual exchange of nudie photos is somehow wrong...


drjekel_mrhyde: So the girl won't be charged with sending CP


She's just a poor little brainless girl,  it was all his idea,  a female would never do something like this on her own,  it's all his fault, RAPE,  cut his cock off!

/women aren't responsible for their own actions would be the take home point here
2014-07-10 11:19:15 PM
2 votes:
Pedos with badges amuse no one.
2014-07-10 11:19:00 PM
2 votes:
There is nothing too stupid for cops to try.

Nothing.
2014-07-10 11:18:54 PM
2 votes:

bmwericus: I like to imagine that that PD got so many phone calls and angry emails that their IT systems went into hebie-jeebies and broke down utterly.

The stupidity of that idea, no to mention the entire idea that a mutual exchange of nudie photos is somehow wrong...I mean, if they play doctor in person, it's a lesser crime.

Hopefully a few more of these beyond stupid cases will finally allow some common sense to prevail, but I sure doubt it, our capacity for Dumas seems to be unlimited.


Basically, the cops threatened to rape the boy.  That alone is a crime.

Then again, I'll just leave this right here...

questgarden.com

Stupidity in the legal system knows no bounds.
2014-07-10 11:10:09 PM
2 votes:

doglover: They basically tried to do the worst possible thing a body can do short of full on active wartime treason.


I agree with most of your sentiment, but... really? The worst thing a body can do short of full-on active wartime treason? Worse than, say, murder? What about worse than involuntary drug testing on hundreds of people? How about worse than stealing the retirement benefits of a few thousand?

Yes, it's bad. No, it is not anywhere near the worst possible thing. Had it happened, it would've been a somewhat-embarrassing photo of a body part half the human race has, in a state that body part spends a large proportion of its time in anyway -- just induced unnaturally in some manner.

Still a disgusting and reprehensible thing for governmental agents to be doing supposedly in the name of the law, but not that staggeringly bad in the overall scheme of things.
2014-07-10 09:24:42 PM
2 votes:
The more kids we register as sex offenders for life, the less anyone will care about people being sex offenders.
2014-07-11 02:10:49 PM
1 votes:
All these stories about teens taking nude selfies getting charged with child porn are ridiculous.  Talk about applying the law without using any sort of common sense.  People need to grow up and realize that teens are going to have sexual feelings, they're going to want to expose their body parts with each other, and they are going to want to have sexual contact with each other.  This is nothing new and it isn't something you can prevent from happening by legislating it away.  I'm not saying we need to encourage it, but trying to punish them for it when all parties involved consent to participation is archaic and unrealistic.

This is also as dumb as punishing kids for making a gun with their finger or food.
2014-07-11 01:28:17 PM
1 votes:
This is why limiting police powers is so important, because some police and prosecutors see no limit in their own quest to find someone guilty.

We need to understand that texting and sexting are rampant and that using child pornography laws to deal with this is not appropriate.
2014-07-11 12:34:37 PM
1 votes:
Children aren't very bright and will do things like take naked selfies and send send them to eachother but the parents in this case are just being unhinged.  These are kids.  They are going to do stupid shiat and experiment with sex.  Talk to them.  Discipline them.  Take their phones away, if you must.  Vindictively going after your kid's boyfriend for exchanging graphic pics just ruins his life and for what.  Unless he's sharing her photos with the whole school, then that's perhaps another matter.  But you still have to start with talking to your kid about the dangers of taking nude pics of herself and sharing them with others.
2014-07-11 11:40:51 AM
1 votes:
Another case where a precious snowflake is more important than the law.
2014-07-11 10:55:25 AM
1 votes:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/recent-program-updates/new-rape- d efinition-frequently-asked-questions

 "The new Summary definition of R ape is: "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

Notice how penetration of the flesh isn't mentioned? Medical injections are NOT rape.  They are assault.
2014-07-11 09:41:58 AM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I cannot imagine why you would need to medically induce an erection in a teenaged boy


Seriously... all you'd need is for some marginally attractive female detective to walk into the room and unbutton the top button of her blouse... you'd have to medically suppress his erection when you were done taking the pictures.
2014-07-11 08:11:49 AM
1 votes:

studebaker hoch: There is nothing too stupid for cops to try.

Nothing.


This.
2014-07-11 05:52:47 AM
1 votes:
Why hasn't the girl been arrested? She created child porn and distributed it as well...
I guess the law only applies to males...
2014-07-11 05:19:32 AM
1 votes:
Forcibly "activating" a man's sexual organ and leaving him in a situation where he will have to produce an orgasm or endure pain sounds like rape to me. They are forcing sex on him, which starts with an induced erection.
2014-07-11 05:11:31 AM
1 votes:
This is a ridiculous application of the law and neither should be charged, but the girl's parents must be "important people" for her not to get charged. She's two years younger, but kids as young as 12 have been tried as adults, and she initiated the "illegal" contact.

I don't know what her pics included, if they showed her face or not but the boy's probably didn't show his face, probably just a crotch video of him jacking off. He's a big football player and easily looks 20. How would anyone be able to tell if it's an underage dick or not? It's totally useless as child porn because it's not an 11 yo, it's a mature male that would look the same at 25. No pedo would get off on that.
2014-07-11 04:57:53 AM
1 votes:

vicioushobbit: TOSViolation: jaylectricity: TOSViolation: bmwericus: I like to imagine that that PD got so many phone calls and angry emails that their IT systems went into hebie-jeebies and broke down utterly.

The stupidity of that idea, no to mention the entire idea that a mutual exchange of nudie photos is somehow wrong...I mean, if they play doctor in person, it's a lesser crime.

Hopefully a few more of these beyond stupid cases will finally allow some common sense to prevail, but I sure doubt it, our capacity for Dumas seems to be unlimited.

Basically, the cops threatened to rape the boy.  That alone is a crime.

Then again, I'll just leave this right here...

[questgarden.com image 284x279]

Stupidity in the legal system knows no bounds.

They weren't going to rape him, only observe his medically induced boner.

And why did they need to medically induce a teenager's boner? Is he impotent or something? Just point a fan at his crotch or something.

You do not appear to understand the concept of rape.  What they wanted to do was rape.

Was it legitimate?

I can see it being called assault, but I don't really see how forcing somebody to have an erection is rape, unless you did something to the erection.  Taking photos of it makes the cops child pornographers, not rapists.  They do plenty of actual rape, dont' get me wrong, but I don't see how THIS is rape.


Think of it as a violation. They said that if he didn't comply, they would do it by force (that was the first time they took pics of his junk, flaccid). They were then going to force him to get hard, take more pics, then presumably leave him with a priapism which could last a couple hours. Now, at some point, he's going to need to take care of the erection they induced and complete the act.

But since it will be his adult self jacking off his minor self, they will need to add the charge of statutory rape. Get it?
2014-07-11 04:46:42 AM
1 votes:

fusillade762: Wait until the catch him masturbating. He'll get hit with a molestation charge.


Or at least statutory rape of his minor self by his adult self.
2014-07-11 12:21:05 AM
1 votes:

TOSViolation: Boo_Guy: step one:  Enact laws to protect the children from child porn because that abuse can ruin their lives

step two:  Find children who have taken pictures of themselves in the nude

step three:  Ruin childrens lives by prosecuting them with the laws meant to protect them

Great work their Lou.

/not that those minors who are sexing are really children anymore,  which would be why they're sexually active to begin with.

Suicide is illegal.  Think about that.


Well we can't have our little tax generators deciding to shut themselves down on their own can we.

/or have a spec of dignity
//surprising that DNR orders are legal
2014-07-11 12:10:05 AM
1 votes:
step one:  Enact laws to protect the children from child porn because that abuse can ruin their lives

step two:  Find children who have taken pictures of themselves in the nude

step three:  Ruin childrens lives by prosecuting them with the laws meant to protect them

Great work their Lou.

/not that those minors who are sexing are really children anymore,  which would be why they're sexually active to begin with.
2014-07-11 12:05:03 AM
1 votes:

jaylectricity: TOSViolation: bmwericus: I like to imagine that that PD got so many phone calls and angry emails that their IT systems went into hebie-jeebies and broke down utterly.

The stupidity of that idea, no to mention the entire idea that a mutual exchange of nudie photos is somehow wrong...I mean, if they play doctor in person, it's a lesser crime.

Hopefully a few more of these beyond stupid cases will finally allow some common sense to prevail, but I sure doubt it, our capacity for Dumas seems to be unlimited.

Basically, the cops threatened to rape the boy.  That alone is a crime.

Then again, I'll just leave this right here...

[questgarden.com image 284x279]

Stupidity in the legal system knows no bounds.

They weren't going to rape him, only observe his medically induced boner.

And why did they need to medically induce a teenager's boner? Is he impotent or something? Just point a fan at his crotch or something.


You do not appear to understand the concept of rape.  What they wanted to do was rape.
2014-07-10 11:54:22 PM
1 votes:
They're apparently still planning on charging him as an adult for taking a picture of himself as a minor. And this was just for the second round of pics they were going to take. So they've already taken a bunch of pics of this guys junk.

Hold off on the celebration for now.
2014-07-10 11:34:18 PM
1 votes:
jgtwo.files.wordpress.com
2014-07-10 11:22:10 PM
1 votes:
When police arrested the teen, they photographed his penis against his will, his aunt, who is his guardian, alleged to NBC Washington.

Officials threatened to medically induce an erection in the boy if necessary, the Washington Post reported.


i1.kym-cdn.com
2014-07-10 11:21:32 PM
1 votes:
Wait... this was real? I thought this was a new sequel to Porky's.
2014-07-10 11:20:23 PM
1 votes:

some_beer_drinker: [www.dialbforblog.com image 454x328]
boners


I wonder when the slang meaning of boner changed.
2014-07-10 11:19:15 PM
1 votes:
It used to be in the school cafeteria you were worried they put saltpeter in the food. Now you've got cops who are trying to slip Viagra into the food. Is this a great country or what?
2014-07-10 11:15:45 PM
1 votes:
So the girl won't be charged with sending CP
2014-07-10 11:14:29 PM
1 votes:
I can't imagine how the cops plan on getting off on this.
2014-07-10 11:12:47 PM
1 votes:

doglover: I mean, if I go to a gun shop and say "I need a good shotgun for a bank robbery." that alone is a crime. If the gun shop sells me the gun, knowing I've declared to rob a bank with it. That's another crime. Even if I then say "I've changed my mind." or "I was just kidding." IT'S STILL A CRIME.

These people tried to do something so far beyond the pale even the mere preliminary steps they took to do it should warrant felony sex offenses, dishonorable discharges, and a nice kick in the groin with a heavy boot from an NFL kicker. If they had actually carried out the plan, the death penalty would not be out of line, because they were not just raping a minor to produce pornography but using the government's authority to do it. That's beyond one victim. That's a crime against the fabric of society itself.

They basically tried to do the worst possible thing a body can do short of full on active wartime treason.


Nothing about this statement is wrong.
2014-07-10 11:08:19 PM
1 votes:
I imagine the judge will toss this case right out. Unfortunately, this case isn't being tried in my imagination.
2014-07-10 11:07:00 PM
1 votes:
McLean Virginia sure does have some sick, sick cops.
2014-07-10 10:39:33 PM
1 votes:
I cannot imagine why you would need to medically induce an erection in a teenaged boy

/a Victoria's Secret catalog is much cheaper
//and more effective
2014-07-10 06:26:40 PM
1 votes:
I wonder if Forest Gumps Brother, Lt. Dumbass Gump got promoted over this to Captain Gump?  Seriously- this is proof that Forest had a brother who survived the back alley abortion clinic!
 
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