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(Phys Org2)   The speed of writing data to storage is about to explode, if you believe these scienticians' spin   (phys.org) divider line 18
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2014-07-10 09:35:53 AM  
Great....I just replaced my porn drives.
 
2014-07-10 11:10:36 AM  
In fairness, SSDs already make an amazing difference vs. platters...
 
2014-07-10 11:20:25 AM  
I hate when stories like this just say "cool new theoretical technology might happen someday" without bothering to mention potential barriers. Even ignoring the probable high cost of such devices, what about heat dissipation? Energy requirements?

Why can't I have it NOW and why didn't you put that in your story...
 
2014-07-10 11:21:10 AM  

UberDave: Great....I just replaced my porn drives.


People who hoard stores of porn when so much is so easily accessible anyways are shameful.
 
2014-07-10 11:27:53 AM  

ikanreed: UberDave: Great....I just replaced my porn drives.

People who hoard stores of porn when so much is so easily accessible anyways are shameful.


...Until the internet goes out.

I want another company to start making 5.25" hard drives again, like the Quantum Bigfoot of the 90's. 1TB per platter on a 3.5" should fit a lot on a bigger platter. No one uses more than one or two of their bays anywho.
 
2014-07-10 11:57:00 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: ikanreed: UberDave: Great....I just replaced my porn drives.

People who hoard stores of porn when so much is so easily accessible anyways are shameful.

...Until the internet goes out.

I want another company to start making 5.25" hard drives again, like the Quantum Bigfoot of the 90's. 1TB per platter on a 3.5" should fit a lot on a bigger platter. No one uses more than one or two of their bays anywho.


Slower seek time as the heads have to travel farther, plus they have to junk more platters at the factory for surface defects given a larger surface.
 
2014-07-10 12:13:16 PM  
How stable is the write?  If it's no worse than current write standards, sounds good.
 
2014-07-10 12:14:50 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: ...Until the internet goes out.


Oh come on, that's the pathetic part.  Paranoia is sad.  Paranoia about the mere possibility of having a little bit more effort to masutrbate?  That's shameful.
 
2014-07-10 12:19:25 PM  
I think "femtoseconds" would be a great name for a Punk Rock/ Grunge Garage Band...

or the amount of time I would last if I got one of those lap dancer artistes home to my couch and tried to do the nasty with her!  Yeah Pink Poodle and Silicon Valley Tech Engineers with more money than god, and the professional ladies who make themselves available for said dollars...

PS:  Not including this lady:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/09/escort-arrested- m urder/12397535/
 
2014-07-10 12:39:17 PM  

ikanreed: kittyhas1000legs: ...Until the internet goes out.

Oh come on, that's the pathetic part.  Paranoia is sad.  Paranoia about the mere possibility of having a little bit more effort to masutrbate?  That's shameful.


In that case, think of the poor people out in the middle of nowhere with only dialup or satellite internet. Being limited to a few hundred MB/day and 10-20GB/month, you need to preserve what you have.

Of course, then the POWER goes out...
 
2014-07-10 12:59:12 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: In that case, think of the poor people out in the middle of nowhere with only dialup or satellite internet. Being limited to a few hundred MB/day and 10-20GB/month, you need to preserve what you have.

Of course, then the POWER goes out...


Yeah, those aren't the people posting about their large porn collections.
 
2014-07-10 01:03:41 PM  
Spintronics again?  This shiat has been 'coming' for 20 years now.  Wake me when they actually have a product and not a lab demo.
 
2014-07-10 03:04:05 PM  
Hell, I'd be reasonably satisfied if they could just get Windows Eight-Point-Farking-One to boot in something like this lifetime.
 
2014-07-10 04:30:36 PM  
I'm right now backing up files to a USB 2.0 thumb drive.  It's a 3 GB .pst Outlook file and it takes 10 minutes to back up.  It seems to me that we're "doing it wrong."  Cheap office computers.  I can't be bothered to figure out how to speed this up.  I'm imagining having tremendously fast storage write speed but being bottlenecked by read speed, network speed, cables, OS, interface protocols, and other mumbo jumbo.

I wish I have a real network expert that could come in and say, "hey, there's a better way, and it'll cost you $60."

I don't even know what benchmarking tools to use to figure out where my bottleneck is.
 
2014-07-10 05:13:58 PM  

kahnzo: I'm right now backing up files to a USB 2.0 thumb drive.  It's a 3 GB .pst Outlook file and it takes 10 minutes to back up.  It seems to me that we're "doing it wrong."  Cheap office computers.  I can't be bothered to figure out how to speed this up.  I'm imagining having tremendously fast storage write speed but being bottlenecked by read speed, network speed, cables, OS, interface protocols, and other mumbo jumbo.

I wish I have a real network expert that could come in and say, "hey, there's a better way, and it'll cost you $60."

I don't even know what benchmarking tools to use to figure out where my bottleneck is.


That's only about 10 times slower than the theoretical max of USB 2. You are moving 3 gigs of data. Most USB devices, particularly cheap flash drives, don't come close to being able to achieve the maximum throughput that the interface will accept.

I'm not a network expert by any means, but I would guess if you were using a USB 3 connection it'd go a lot faster just because even a fraction of a superspeed port's maximum throughput would be more than USB 2 can support. Though, if you're stuck with office hardware you're not gonna be able to install a USB 3 port on the thing anyway.

Of course, it could be like you said and the office computer just has pathetic read times. Maybe it's badly fragmented, idk.
 
2014-07-10 05:30:19 PM  
thanks Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy
next time we have some unrelated issue I might see if our network guy will install a USB 3 controller card
I just did some testing and it's obvious that the bottleneck is the USB 2 flash drive.
 
2014-07-10 07:01:15 PM  
I got a cheap USB 3 drive case (£13) and put a spare drive in it and it will run at 125Mb/sec...
 
2014-07-10 08:31:25 PM  
kahnzo:
I just did some testing and it's obvious that the bottleneck is the USB 2 flash drive.

Well, yeah.  It would take a tremendously slow computer to copy at 5 MB/s, I don't care how crappy your office computer is.  USB drives, on the other hand, are all over the map, but you don't get to blame USB 2 for this one; 5MB/s isn't even close to the maximum real world speed for USB 2.0.  It's very rare to see a a flash drive that's limited by the  maximum speed for whatever version of USB it is simply because most people don't know what they want in a flash drive.  They see MB and GB without every considering how long it takes to fill that big number of GBs, so the manufacturer says fark it, you get 32GBs of nand with the slowest USB interface we can find to save a few cents.

Always look for benchmarks before you buy a flash drive, it really is the most important thing to look at unless one of your goals is to waste a lot of time watching files copy.  That said, USB 3.0 drives do tend to have much better benchmark scores and unless they're really shiatty will tend to saturate a USB 2.0 bus, getting you the best speed you can expect with the PC you've got.  I've used this one in particular and it's incredibly fast for the price:  http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-Performance-Drive-P-FD128TBOP-GE/dp/B 0 0FE2N1WS
 
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