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(The Irish Times)   Prime Minister of Ireland jumps into Garth Brooks affair, enacts emergency high-level talks to salvage concerts in Dublin, is prepared to send minister to Nashville to parley with Brooks' representatives   (irishtimes.com ) divider line
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2014-07-10 08:01:14 AM  
I've been to Dublin. You guys can do better than this
 
2014-07-10 08:30:58 AM  
They should get Chris Gaines instead.
 
2014-07-10 08:39:36 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-10 09:52:22 AM  
Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

On a positive note, just saw Damien Dempsey in Boston last night. Great show.
 
2014-07-10 09:54:07 AM  
This is Taoiseach Enda Kenny's Caoimhe.
 
2014-07-10 09:56:20 AM  
I heard on the news that they sold 400k tickets to those shows, which is like 10% of the entire population of Ireland and 1/3 the population of Dublin. No wonder the government is getting involved, that's a HUGE amount of pissed off people.
 
2014-07-10 10:01:01 AM  

keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )


I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.
 
2014-07-10 10:01:34 AM  

Jim.Casy: I heard on the news that they sold 400k tickets to those shows, which is like 10% of the entire population of Ireland and 1/3 the population of Dublin. No wonder the government is getting involved, that's a HUGE amount of pissed off people.


And a 50 million ($? LbS?) hit to the economy if it falls apart. Way to go, Council.
 
2014-07-10 10:05:07 AM  
Taoiseach is always the coolest name for a country's leader in the world.
 
2014-07-10 10:19:03 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.


Oh yeah... Country music, I get. Garth Brooks, I don't get. : )

One of my first jobs when I moved to Dublin was working at a place called Break for the Border, right near the Stephen's Green shopping center. They always had these country and western bands playing on the weekends. Always cracked me up when the singer would talk to the crowd in a thick Dublin or country accent and then as soon as the singing started it was like the farker was from the back woods of Tennessee.
 
2014-07-10 10:27:38 AM  
they say mother earth is breathing...
 
2014-07-10 10:30:06 AM  
I have to admit .. I would pay a pretty penny to see Garth sing Ireland in Ireland.

/Still a fan. Not proud.. just a thing.
 
2014-07-10 10:31:05 AM  

keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

On a positive note, just saw Damien Dempsey in Boston last night. Great show.


I was in Ireland in March. Every single music store I visited there had a huge display for that guy. So I'm assuming he's popular?
 
2014-07-10 10:32:26 AM  
I just do not get this so-called controversy. seriously, I do not.

maybe someone can school me?

wtf
 
2014-07-10 10:34:16 AM  

keylock71: DjangoStonereaver: I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.

Oh yeah... Country music, I get. Garth Brooks, I don't get. : )

One of my first jobs when I moved to Dublin was working at a place called Break for the Border, right near the Stephen's Green shopping center. They always had these country and western bands playing on the weekends. Always cracked me up when the singer would talk to the crowd in a thick Dublin or country accent and then as soon as the singing started it was like the farker was from the back woods of Tennessee.


I think it has to do with the general stock of contemporary Country/Western singers. At least Garth is part of an older school (not Old School in the least bit) where he finds a character's voice and does actual story telling in a lot of his music.

RadioLab did a bit on the popularity of Country/Western around the world. Dolly can announce that she'd do 10 shows in Zimbabwe and you'd expect every one of those shows to sell out because they love themselves some Jolene or listening to a woman sing about growing up being poor in the Smokies.
 
2014-07-10 10:36:04 AM  

Shadow Blasko: I have to admit .. I would pay a pretty penny to see Garth sing Ireland in Ireland.

/Still a fan. Not proud.. just a thing.


I was listening to this story on NPR last night and they were interviewing someone from the minister's office in Dublin about it. Despite the fact that she's a Garth Brooks fan she didn't even know about the song Ireland so they played it for her. Her reaction was just laughter and sighing.
 
2014-07-10 10:37:10 AM  
Country and Western doesn't strike me as a genre that would easily be popular overseas, but I guess I'm wrong.
 
2014-07-10 10:39:28 AM  

Shadow Blasko: I have to admit .. I would pay a pretty penny to see Garth sing Ireland in Ireland.

/Still a fan. Not proud.. just a thing.


Victim of his own success, really.
 
2014-07-10 10:40:12 AM  

homelessdude: I just do not get this so-called controversy. seriously, I do not.

maybe someone can school me?

wtf


I think there's a limit to the number of large capacity shows that the community can host a season if I heard the story correctly last night. Basically One Direction played three shows last month which did gangbusters so the promoters for the GB concerts were told that they could only have 3 shows now because of the law instead of the 5 that had been planned and sold already. Brooks, who loves playing in Ireland, basically said he couldn't pick which shows to cancel and just opted to pull from the whole thing instead.
 
2014-07-10 10:42:19 AM  

KatjaMouse: homelessdude: I just do not get this so-called controversy. seriously, I do not.

maybe someone can school me?

wtf

I think there's a limit to the number of large capacity shows that the community can host a season if I heard the story correctly last night. Basically One Direction played three shows last month which did gangbusters so the promoters for the GB concerts were told that they could only have 3 shows now because of the law instead of the 5 that had been planned and sold already. Brooks, who loves playing in Ireland, basically said he couldn't pick which shows to cancel and just opted to pull from the whole thing instead.


Ahhh...thank you very much. It all makes a bit more sense now.

Cool
 
2014-07-10 10:42:21 AM  

Geotpf: Country and Western doesn't strike me as a genre that would easily be popular overseas, but I guess I'm wrong.


Back in the Loretta Lynn days it was all about hearing someone's sad life story set to music. Apparently it struck a chord with a lot of countries, particularly those we would label as third world.
 
2014-07-10 10:50:23 AM  

keylock71: DjangoStonereaver: keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.

Oh yeah... Country music, I get. Garth Brooks, I don't get. : )

One of my first jobs when I moved to Dublin was working at a place called Break for the Border, right near the Stephen's Green shopping center. They always had these country and western bands playing on the weekends. Always cracked me up when the singer would talk to the crowd in a thick Dublin or country accent and then as soon as the singing started it was like the farker was from the back woods of Tennessee.


If you've never seen Garth Brooks' turn on the old MUPPETS TONIGHT show, seek it out.  His willingness
to laugh at himself will make you a fan of the man, even if you don't like his music.

But, for a preview, go to about 1:53 in this video.
 
2014-07-10 10:53:16 AM  

markfara: keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

On a positive note, just saw Damien Dempsey in Boston last night. Great show.

I was in Ireland in March. Every single music store I visited there had a huge display for that guy. So I'm assuming he's popular?


Huge in Ireland in Europe... Getting better known here in the states as of late.

He's opened for Willie Nelson, Bruce Springsteen, Christy moore, Sinead O'Conner etc. etc.

He got his start at a little Arts club I used to work at called the DA Club. Amazing song writer and singer and a Northsider, so he well loved in Dublin.

Hope he makes a habit of coming to Boston.

One of the less blurry photos from last night. ( I was kazooed).

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2014-07-10 10:56:04 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: keylock71: DjangoStonereaver: keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.

Oh yeah... Country music, I get. Garth Brooks, I don't get. : )

One of my first jobs when I moved to Dublin was working at a place called Break for the Border, right near the Stephen's Green shopping center. They always had these country and western bands playing on the weekends. Always cracked me up when the singer would talk to the crowd in a thick Dublin or country accent and then as soon as the singing started it was like the farker was from the back woods of Tennessee.

If you've never seen Garth Brooks' turn on the old MUPPETS TONIGHT show, seek it out.  His willingness
to laugh at himself will make you a fan of the man, even if you don't like his music.

But, for a preview, go to about 1:53 in this video.


Oh, I have nothing against him personally... Just can't stand his music. The "One-Man Show" with storytelling seems a tad self-indulgent, as well.
 
2014-07-10 10:58:07 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.


Country music is based in large part on traditional Scots-Irish musical forms and styles. Any anthromusicologist worth his or her salt could have predicted Mr. Brooks' popularity in Eire.
 
2014-07-10 11:02:38 AM  

KatjaMouse: keylock71: DjangoStonereaver: I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.

Oh yeah... Country music, I get. Garth Brooks, I don't get. : )

One of my first jobs when I moved to Dublin was working at a place called Break for the Border, right near the Stephen's Green shopping center. They always had these country and western bands playing on the weekends. Always cracked me up when the singer would talk to the crowd in a thick Dublin or country accent and then as soon as the singing started it was like the farker was from the back woods of Tennessee.

I think it has to do with the general stock of contemporary Country/Western singers. At least Garth is part of an older school (not Old School in the least bit) where he finds a character's voice and does actual story telling in a lot of his music.

RadioLab did a bit on the popularity of Country/Western around the world. Dolly can announce that she'd do 10 shows in Zimbabwe and you'd expect every one of those shows to sell out because they love themselves some Jolene or listening to a woman sing about growing up being poor in the Smokies.


I like the character-voice-thing in Country. That's why I just don't care for "Young Country." I can stand (and even have fun with) a few Garth Brooks songs, but Dolly is better (as are many of the older songers). I really didn't understand the nuance of her greatness until I saw some episode of one of those pop singing shows where a pretty young woman was singing "Jolene" with a perky grin on her face. It's bad enough when some chit sins "Walkin' After Midnight" like it's an up-tempo jog, but Jolene is a woman debasing herself over a man. Singing that with a chipper grin is so wrong on so many levels that it just proves a person can have a nice voice and still be a rotten musician.
 
2014-07-10 11:03:44 AM  
Speaking of Irish Music, this is what Sinead O'Connors look like now:

cdn2-b.examiner.com

tiskin.com
 
2014-07-10 11:05:58 AM  

Geotpf: Country and Western doesn't strike me as a genre that would easily be popular overseas, but I guess I'm wrong.


Garth Brooks is a mix of old-school country music, which is basically just love songs and guitar music with a theme of rural blue-collar work and the difficulty of low-income life, plus "outlaw country" which is the same deal plus a stronger than usual streak of comedy and an electric guitar.

His music's pretty universally accessible, despite his career continuing into the '90s and '00s and maintaining his popularity during that period he really doesn't have a lot in common with what you might call the main-stream of Country music during those periods.  He's not the pickup trucks and power ballads type, and he's  definitely not into the whole "America, fark yeah" shiat that infected the second Hank Williams and so on.

I mean, you don't actually have to give a fark about 'country culture' or whatever for most of his most popular songs to get under your skin.  His version of "Blue eyes crying in the rain" is probably one of the best American recordings post 1950, genre regardless (and the associated album, which also contains wholly original work, is once of the States' most influential albums, period), up there with more technical achievements like Dylan's Subterranean Homesick Blues.

... also, a lot of the bluegrass sound and the musical traditions surrounding six- and twelve-string guitar in general are rooted in Irish and Scottish music (especially ballads) to begin with.  Ireland enjoying a grandchild of its own older musical traditions isn't  terribly surprising.

// Music history nerd, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
2014-07-10 11:08:10 AM  

DeaH: I like the character-voice-thing in Country. That's why I just don't care for "Young Country." I can stand (and even have fun with) a few Garth Brooks songs, but Dolly is better (as are many of the older songers). I really didn't understand the nuance of her greatness until I saw some episode of one of those pop singing shows where a pretty young woman was singing "Jolene" with a perky grin on her face. It's bad enough when some chit sins "Walkin' After Midnight" like it's an up-tempo jog, but Jolene is a woman debasing herself over a man. Singing that with a chipper grin is so wrong on so many levels that it just proves a person can have a nice voice and still be a rotten musician.


Fark pointed this to me last year. Oh... it was so painful but it was nice to get a rise out of my Young Country listening cousins on Facebook.
 
2014-07-10 11:10:35 AM  

DeaH: KatjaMouse: keylock71: DjangoStonereaver: I think the Irish just like American country music in general.  My mother emigrated here when she was 17,
and she has always loved country music as passionately as any red state shiatkicker.

Oh yeah... Country music, I get. Garth Brooks, I don't get. : )

One of my first jobs when I moved to Dublin was working at a place called Break for the Border, right near the Stephen's Green shopping center. They always had these country and western bands playing on the weekends. Always cracked me up when the singer would talk to the crowd in a thick Dublin or country accent and then as soon as the singing started it was like the farker was from the back woods of Tennessee.

I think it has to do with the general stock of contemporary Country/Western singers. At least Garth is part of an older school (not Old School in the least bit) where he finds a character's voice and does actual story telling in a lot of his music.

RadioLab did a bit on the popularity of Country/Western around the world. Dolly can announce that she'd do 10 shows in Zimbabwe and you'd expect every one of those shows to sell out because they love themselves some Jolene or listening to a woman sing about growing up being poor in the Smokies.

I like the character-voice-thing in Country. That's why I just don't care for "Young Country." I can stand (and even have fun with) a few Garth Brooks songs, but Dolly is better (as are many of the older songers). I really didn't understand the nuance of her greatness until I saw some episode of one of those pop singing shows where a pretty young woman was singing "Jolene" with a perky grin on her face. It's bad enough when some chit sins "Walkin' After Midnight" like it's an up-tempo jog, but Jolene is a woman debasing herself over a man. Singing that with a chipper grin is so wrong on so many levels that it just proves a person can have a nice voice and still be a rotten musician.



Love Gram Parsons for the same reason... The song-writing was excellent, but his ability to really bring the story to life is what made those songs. You can put Steve Earl in that category, too, I'd say.
 
2014-07-10 11:14:00 AM  

KatjaMouse: DeaH: I like the character-voice-thing in Country. That's why I just don't care for "Young Country." I can stand (and even have fun with) a few Garth Brooks songs, but Dolly is better (as are many of the older songers). I really didn't understand the nuance of her greatness until I saw some episode of one of those pop singing shows where a pretty young woman was singing "Jolene" with a perky grin on her face. It's bad enough when some chit sins "Walkin' After Midnight" like it's an up-tempo jog, but Jolene is a woman debasing herself over a man. Singing that with a chipper grin is so wrong on so many levels that it just proves a person can have a nice voice and still be a rotten musician.

Fark pointed this to me last year. Oh... it was so painful but it was nice to get a rise out of my Young Country listening cousins on Facebook.


Lol... Oh, man, that's great. Thanks for the link.
 
2014-07-10 11:20:29 AM  

keylock71: Oh yeah... Country music, I get. Garth Brooks, I don't get. : )


You have to remember this is Dublin, the city that gave us U2.
 
2014-07-10 11:37:18 AM  

Jim.Casy: I heard on the news that they sold 400k tickets to those shows, which is like 10% of the entire population of Ireland and 1/3 the population of Dublin. No wonder the government is getting involved, that's a HUGE amount of pissed off people.


I'm related to at least 8 of them and they are very upset. As long as Imelda May can do what she wants, I couldn't care less.
 
2014-07-10 11:53:54 AM  
WTF does any of that have to do with the Mexican Ambassador?
In fact, WTF?
Anyone have an English explanation of WTF is going on?
 
2014-07-10 11:58:52 AM  

Mantour: Speaking of Irish Music, this is what Sinead O'Connors look like now:

[cdn2-b.examiner.com image 523x350]

[tiskin.com image 472x678]


I'm sorry people have to be beautiful for you to listen to their music. By all accounts her last album was very good
 
2014-07-10 01:19:40 PM  

KatjaMouse: Fark pointed this to me last year. Oh... it was so painful but it was nice to get a rise out of my Young Country listening cousins on Facebook.


In fairness, still an improvement over the '90s/ early 2000s political message bullshiat.

But... yeah, sort of illustrates the issue with having a "culture" associated with your music.  Absurd levels of uniformity even at a superficial level, because there's an actual list of shiat you're supposed to talk about, whereas in a less "cultural" genre four different songs about going out on a date or whatever will at least have different basic bullet points due to divergent personal experience.

Since a lot of '90s/'00s country fans are pretty unabashedly racist, you can sometimes fark with them by pointing out that this was the main reason that gangster rap went from a new and interesting idea to a repetitive load of bollocks in under five years, too.  Or if you really want to be a dick you can point out that even pop music has fewer issues with this than country.

// Then, you probably don't have relatives as easy to troll on that one as I do, I come from one of the three worst regions of the US in terms of that subculture.
 
2014-07-10 05:11:03 PM  

markfara: keylock71: Lived in Dublin for five years... To this day, l still don't understand the love for that shiat-kicker in Ireland. : )

On a positive note, just saw Damien Dempsey in Boston last night. Great show.

I was in Ireland in March. Every single music store I visited there had a huge display for that guy. So I'm assuming he's popular?


His Diamond Platinum live album was recorded at Croke Park in Dublin back in the 90s.
 
2014-07-10 05:27:55 PM  

KatjaMouse: homelessdude: I just do not get this so-called controversy. seriously, I do not.

maybe someone can school me?

wtf

I think there's a limit to the number of large capacity shows that the community can host a season if I heard the story correctly last night. Basically One Direction played three shows last month which did gangbusters so the promoters for the GB concerts were told that they could only have 3 shows now because of the law instead of the 5 that had been planned and sold already. Brooks, who loves playing in Ireland, basically said he couldn't pick which shows to cancel and just opted to pull from the whole thing instead.


Which is pure bullshiat from Mr Brooks, since they didn't give him any choice over which shows he could play.

They said he could play Friday to Sunday, he's cancelling unless he can disturb the neighborhood on Monday and Tuesday night as well.
 
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