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(Gizmodo)   Need to restock a remote lake with fish? Fish bombing is your solution   (sploid.gizmodo.com) divider line 54
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2014-07-09 11:27:26 PM  
I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.
 
2014-07-10 12:07:11 AM  

Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.


I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.
 
2014-07-10 12:24:20 AM  
Hello daddy, hello mom, I'm you f-f-f-f-f-fishy bomb!
 
2014-07-10 12:36:01 AM  
Quite a percentage appear to hit land.
 
2014-07-10 12:39:02 AM  
As God is my witness, I thought trout could fly.
 
2014-07-10 12:42:57 AM  

MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.


Well, that's a given. Still, if they only need a few to get the job done, I don't see why it wouldn't be economical to truck the fish in, or if the lakes are too much out of the way, ATV them in, rather than the cost of using a plane.

I was just momentarily reminded of this fishing show that was filmed here. The host was presenting a live salmon that he caught, showing it off and what not when a conservation officer approached him from behind a bush and gave him a citation for fish molestation.
 
2014-07-10 12:49:13 AM  
Your tax dollars at work. Serving the 0.001% who will be the only ones who ever fish this lake...
 
2014-07-10 12:52:56 AM  
Eh, that's a limited view of it. There's more going on with a lake than just recreational place for a limited number of people. Fish play an important role in the areas ecology by controlling the mosquito population, etc.

I support keeping the lakes stocked.  Just not this particular method of doing it, be as amusing as it is to watch..
 
2014-07-10 01:39:06 AM  

Czechzican: MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.

Well, that's a given. Still, if they only need a few to get the job done, I don't see why it wouldn't be economical to truck the fish in, or if the lakes are too much out of the way, ATV them in, rather than the cost of using a plane.

I was just momentarily reminded of this fishing show that was filmed here. The host was presenting a live salmon that he caught, showing it off and what not when a conservation officer approached him from behind a bush and gave him a citation for fish molestation.


The survival rate would be significantly lower if they had to have the fish sitting in barrels for a few days.
 
2014-07-10 01:49:32 AM  
In alaska, they stock salmon by having fry (little baby salmon) by the hundreds of thousands in a giant water tank truck and spraying them out into a river with a firehose.
 
2014-07-10 01:52:08 AM  
Claude Ledbetter standing by to blow them back out of the water.

/might possibly be obscure
 
2014-07-10 01:54:10 AM  
Did they turn into a flower pot just before impact?
 
2014-07-10 01:54:55 AM  

change1211: Czechzican: MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.

Well, that's a given. Still, if they only need a few to get the job done, I don't see why it wouldn't be economical to truck the fish in, or if the lakes are too much out of the way, ATV them in, rather than the cost of using a plane.

I was just momentarily reminded of this fishing show that was filmed here. The host was presenting a live salmon that he caught, showing it off and what not when a conservation officer approached him from behind a bush and gave him a citation for fish molestation.

The survival rate would be significantly lower if they had to have the fish sitting in barrels for a few days.


Hrm. I had a rebuttal, but as I was typing it, more circumstances came to light. If they were restocking the lakes with fry instead of grown fish, it would be a lot easier to get them to the lakes. I used to work for the department of fisheries and oceans here and we transported salmon fry from one part of the province to the other without much issue. There'd be a bit of a die off, but not a lot. Like say about 10 or so per 1,000 from actual shock of the move. Any other die-off would be from other issues, like the fish refusing to resume eating once everything settled down. Salmon can be pretty stupid sometimes.

Only downside to that would be it'd take longer for the stock to truly replenish.

Problem with this method is that the fish are still under all sorts of threats from predators and what not before any breeding could take place.

it just seems a little too slipshod for the amount of money that was probably put into the project
 
2014-07-10 01:56:28 AM  
I use a mortar
 
2014-07-10 01:57:14 AM  

Ambivalence: In alaska, they stock salmon by having fry (little baby salmon) by the hundreds of thousands in a giant water tank truck and spraying them out into a river with a firehose.


Yea, exactly. Fry are a bit easier to move around than adult fish. If they used fry in the plane drop instead of adults, they probably would have had an even better survival rate.
 
2014-07-10 02:14:23 AM  

Czechzican: Ambivalence: In alaska, they stock salmon by having fry (little baby salmon) by the hundreds of thousands in a giant water tank truck and spraying them out into a river with a firehose.

Yea, exactly. Fry are a bit easier to move around than adult fish. If they used fry in the plane drop instead of adults, they probably would have had an even better survival rate.


those fishbombs had adult fish?  That's stupid.
 
2014-07-10 02:18:34 AM  
Czechzican:
Well, that's a given. Still, if they only need a few to get the job done, I don't see why it wouldn't be economical to truck the fish in, or if the lakes are too much out of the way, ATV them in, rather than the cost of using a plane.

Expand things a little bit in your mind. Lets say they're dumping a ten gallon cooler of fish in each of a hundred little intermittent lakes, each year. To send ATVs, you'd need at least three person teams for safety, and maybe two lakes on a good day. At that point, you might be looking at $500 labor per lake. Operating a little Cessna, maybe $200-$300/hr with the pilot and gib. They could probably visit 4 lakes in that hour, including going back for more fish. In a single day, they might easily visit a dozen lakes. And I'd bet the survival rate is similar, bouncing around unscouted forests with ATVs can't be good for coolers full of stressed out fishies.
 
2014-07-10 02:21:52 AM  

Warchild: Quite a percentage appear to hit land.


What leads you to believe that?  You can't see any fall for more than a fraction of a second and there's no visible splashes or anything, but judging by the plane's angle and speed there's every indication that it hit the mark just fine.
 
2014-07-10 02:28:57 AM  

MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.


thumbs.dreamstime.com

GIS for "fish parachute". Which also turns up a REALLY weird anime gif (Possibly NSFW).
 
2014-07-10 02:29:11 AM  
I remember this from Mr. wizards world in the 80s. That show is a little creepy today
 
2014-07-10 02:33:15 AM  

fusillade762: MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 400x413]

GIS for "fish parachute". Which also turns up a REALLY weird anime gif (Possibly NSFW).


Dude, I think you just discovered a new level of anime weird.  Now I sort of want to see that show just to know wtf was going on there.
 
2014-07-10 02:33:29 AM  

Ambivalence: Czechzican: Ambivalence: In alaska, they stock salmon by having fry (little baby salmon) by the hundreds of thousands in a giant water tank truck and spraying them out into a river with a firehose.

Yea, exactly. Fry are a bit easier to move around than adult fish. If they used fry in the plane drop instead of adults, they probably would have had an even better survival rate.

those fishbombs had adult fish?  That's stupid.


Yea, those were adults.

wildcardjack: Czechzican:
Well, that's a given. Still, if they only need a few to get the job done, I don't see why it wouldn't be economical to truck the fish in, or if the lakes are too much out of the way, ATV them in, rather than the cost of using a plane.

Expand things a little bit in your mind. Lets say they're dumping a ten gallon cooler of fish in each of a hundred little intermittent lakes, each year. To send ATVs, you'd need at least three person teams for safety, and maybe two lakes on a good day. At that point, you might be looking at $500 labor per lake. Operating a little Cessna, maybe $200-$300/hr with the pilot and gib. They could probably visit 4 lakes in that hour, including going back for more fish. In a single day, they might easily visit a dozen lakes. And I'd bet the survival rate is similar, bouncing around unscouted forests with ATVs can't be good for coolers full of stressed out fishies.


Restock expeditions here are usually handled by one university/DFO biologist and a team of co-op students or volunteers, which bring the labour cost down. But you also have to factor in the cost of producing the large number of fish in the farms for such a project. If they were willing to spend that much, why not ensure that the fish have a better chance than just treating them like cannon fodder?

As for the stress on the fish, usually when they are being moved around a lot, biologists would dose them with clove oil. It acts as an anaesthetic. It doesn't put them to sleep, but it does chill them out. Only real off thing the fish do under stress is not eating. But that usually clears itself up after a couple days.

Also by ATV, the fish would be transported in a much larger insulated fish transportation tanks with portable air pumps.

It would take a bit longer, but no biologist or biology student would ever complain about a camping trip.
 
2014-07-10 02:35:39 AM  

fusillade762: MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 400x413]

GIS for "fish parachute". Which also turns up a REALLY weird anime gif (Possibly NSFW).


lmfao
 
2014-07-10 02:41:36 AM  
Reminds me of the legend of Johnny Fishseed who traveled all over this country pulling fish out his pockets and throwing them into lakes and rivers.
 
2014-07-10 02:45:03 AM  
Gives new meaning to,
(puts on sunglasses)
Fly Fishing
YEAAAAAAAAAH!
 
2014-07-10 02:49:04 AM  
The real issue here is Gawker branching out. "Sploid"? F*ck Matt H and the blog he rode in on.
 
2014-07-10 04:35:20 AM  

fusillade762: MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 400x413]

GIS for "fish parachute". Which also turns up a REALLY weird anime gif (Possibly NSFW).


www.holycrapitslate.com
 
2014-07-10 04:42:25 AM  
That's a shocking way to get stocked, for the fish.  No chance to even acclimate.
 
2014-07-10 04:54:38 AM  
I'm sorry, but wouldn't that kill the fish? I was always told to throw fish back in the wate as gently as possible or you might rupture their gills or something.
 
2014-07-10 05:16:28 AM  

fusillade762: MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 400x413]

GIS for "fish parachute". Which also turns up a REALLY weird anime gif (Possibly NSFW).


Possibly?

lmao
 
2014-07-10 05:36:35 AM  
I didn't see any splashes in the lake. All the fish disintegrated before impact or landed in the woods.  RIP FISH.
 
2014-07-10 05:45:41 AM  
Czechzican:

Restock expeditions here are usually handled by one university/DFO biologist and a team of co-op students or volunteers, which bring the labour cost down. But you also have to factor in the cost of producing the large number of fish in the farms for such a project. If they were willing to spend that much, why not ensure that the fish have a better chance than just treating them like cannon fodder?

That sounds like a fine project for the ones within a reasonable detour from a fire road, but what about the other 80?
 
2014-07-10 06:29:00 AM  

ktybear: fusillade762: MisterTweak: Czechzican: I wonder what the survival rate is for the fish. Yeesh, that doesn't look good. Probably looks much worse than it is.

I'm guessing it just has to be "some non-zero result" to work. Still, coming up with tiny little fish parachutes would be fun. Of course, there would be some fish who would show off by skimming across the dirt before landing safely in the water.

[thumbs.dreamstime.com image 400x413]

GIS for "fish parachute". Which also turns up a REALLY weird anime gif (Possibly NSFW).

Possibly?

lmao


I saw no nudity or human sexual activity there. Just a fish vomiting and some skydiving. Get your mind out of the gutter.
 
2014-07-10 06:55:41 AM  
This is awesome.  I'd love to see it in slow motion to the Ride of the Valkyries in the background.
 
2014-07-10 07:01:38 AM  
So what happened to all of the fish that were originally in the lake?  Are they just allowing the lakes to be overfished each year so that a stable population can't develop, or is something else going on?
 
2014-07-10 07:08:29 AM  
Keep that up and there will be a shiatload of birds chasing the plane.. waiting... waiting.. SNATCH!

Also... really need a comic of two shaking fish with one saying to the other, "WHAT THE FARK WAS THAT!?!?" but, too busy to mess round in PhotoSHop this morning.. once coffee is in, I'm out.
 
2014-07-10 07:09:26 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: So what happened to all of the fish that were originally in the lake?  Are they just allowing the lakes to be overfished each year so that a stable population can't develop, or is something else going on?


Actually it is kind of the opposite.  They super overstock the lakes so that fishing is super easy for the tourists.  By the end of the season the lakes are down to a more sustainable population, but still easy fishing for the locals.  At least that is how it is in Minnesota...
 
2014-07-10 07:22:56 AM  

IgG4: Your tax dollars at work. Serving the 0.001% who will be the only ones who ever fish this lake...


i don't know about this particular case but i know from working (volunteering) various game stocking events that they're paid for by license fees.
 
2014-07-10 07:26:47 AM  

Kanemano: I use a mortar


So do I:

i46.tinypic.com
 
2014-07-10 07:27:54 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: So what happened to all of the fish that were originally in the lake?  Are they just allowing the lakes to be overfished each year so that a stable population can't develop, or is something else going on?


Global Warmooling.
 
2014-07-10 07:32:16 AM  

doofusgumby: The real issue here is Gawker branching out. "Sploid"? F*ck Matt H and the blog he rode in on.


Wow, your curse worked. The entire Gawker universe is offline now. What will the Jezebellis do for their morning dose of outrage?
 
2014-07-10 07:45:49 AM  

EngineerAU: doofusgumby: The real issue here is Gawker branching out. "Sploid"? F*ck Matt H and the blog he rode in on.

Wow, your curse worked. The entire Gawker universe is offline now. What will the Jezebellis do for their morning dose of outrage?


I thought it was some weird shiat going on with my Surface.
 
2014-07-10 09:00:46 AM  

fusillade762: GIS for "fish parachute". Which also turns up a REALLY weird anime gif (Possibly NSFW)


WTF?
 
2014-07-10 02:22:09 PM  

Ivo Shandor: As God is my witness, I thought trout could fly.


Done in 5
 
2014-07-10 02:28:36 PM  
 
2014-07-10 03:10:26 PM  
turning swords into plowshares....
 
2014-07-10 03:45:57 PM  
If you were a tiny little fish being tossed out of an airplane would be a frye.

mssa.net

Wonder how much that costs, I would love to do that to my neighbors house.
 
2014-07-10 04:13:26 PM  
 
2014-07-10 04:16:49 PM  

Tony_Pepperoni: Least we not forget... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkIQSzT1XZU


I don't even need to click on that.
epguides.com
 
2014-07-10 04:29:07 PM  
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