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(Washington Post)   Virginia cops want to give a 17-year-old boy an erection so they can take pictures of it   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 86
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2014-07-09 07:19:22 PM  
14 votes:
Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?
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2014-07-09 07:22:38 PM  
10 votes:

lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?


Yep, and they want to make this child porn so that they can prosecute a child for making child porn -- of himself.

I bet one Internet Dollar the 15 year old girl's parents are well-connected in some way.
2014-07-09 05:46:44 PM  
9 votes:
So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.
2014-07-09 05:27:41 PM  
8 votes:

Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


More so the prosecutor who is trying to make a case against him in the first place.  There needs to be an exception in child pornography laws for voluntarily sent 'selfies' amongst minors.
2014-07-09 05:06:48 PM  
8 votes:
This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.
2014-07-09 07:44:17 PM  
7 votes:
There's an update on the article with the police having released a statement, view it here.

On first blush, if they're having to release a statement defending their actions, that likely means they're getting a lot of backlash over this, so that's good.

They do mention that the girl asked him to stop sending her dick pics, which, if true, and he kept doing it, does make him sort of a jerk, but it's certainly not worth felony charges.  If that was the actual situation the correct course of action would have been to have her parents tell his parents, and have them ground him and take away his phone.  This entire situation does not warrant police involvement.
2014-07-09 09:03:53 PM  
5 votes:
We need this statement enshrined somewhere:

Upholding the law is not a valid defense for breaking the law.

And then hold authority accountable to it with stiff mandatory penalties for infractions committed "under color of authority".
2014-07-09 08:21:07 PM  
5 votes:

kronicfeld: They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.


In terms of the harassment statutes, I can't imagine how it would make much difference whose penis he was sending her pictures of.

In terms of pushing child porn charges, I'd say if investigators can't tell whether it's an underaged penis, then it's not worth prosecuting as if it were.
2014-07-09 08:18:41 PM  
5 votes:
Up next. Charging teen with statuatory rape for touching himself. To be tried as an adult.
2014-07-09 08:55:26 PM  
4 votes:
The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.
2014-07-09 08:23:03 PM  
4 votes:
The county prosecutor, Ebert, has a terrible reputation.  Seriously, he's been nominated for Worst Prosecutor of the Year several times.  http://www.theagitator.com/2012/01/02/the-2011-worst-prosecutor-of-th e -year-award/
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-09 07:53:28 PM  
4 votes:
Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.
2014-07-10 12:11:07 AM  
3 votes:
For people who are new to the thread:

He's a white boy.

The girl's mother reported him.

The girl sent pics first.

The cops just like teenage dick, I guess.


Hopefully, this answers all your questions.
2014-07-09 10:49:30 PM  
3 votes:
What the fark did I just read?!

So a 17 year old boy makes a sexytime video and sends it to his (also juvenile) girlfriend and that = producing and possessing child pornography...but the police then want to forcibly give this same kid an erection and photograph his underage penis and that doesn't = child pornography? Or an unwanted sexual assault? Why are they even wasting their time with this? Or trying to go to such extreme lengths to make a case? This is utterly insane and if they wind up actually doing this to this kid, I hope he sues the pants off the department and alerts the FBI to the fact that they are in possession of child pornography on their department computers.
2014-07-09 10:03:24 PM  
3 votes:
Everyone involved in prosecuting that case should be charged as producers of child rape.

They want to stick a needle in his dick and force a priapism.

They want to compare a picture of his penis to all the other pictures of childrens penises that they have on their hard drives...

/Why doesn't anyone like or trust the police anymore
//Because you shot my dog and are now taking photos of my sons penis.
2014-07-09 09:31:41 PM  
3 votes:
So are they taking pics of the girl's vagina to compare to the pics she sent the boy?
2014-07-09 09:14:22 PM  
3 votes:

dolphinsgonwild: Hey, my first sex was when I was 15 and she just turned 17. So that's ok as long as I didn't take a picture of the "act"?


If you think that is confusing, just wait until these things start showing up in high schools.

i.imgbox.com
2014-07-09 08:32:28 PM  
3 votes:
What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?
2014-07-10 08:15:07 AM  
2 votes:

Fr._Peter_Fitznuggly: The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.


And the boys parents should mention this to the doctor before he starts.

"You know, if this turns out not to be medically necessary we WILL be reporting it to the medical board for review"
2014-07-10 08:12:27 AM  
2 votes:

rnatalie: Please, please, can we call it a tallywacker?


Please this is a serious matter!

i.ytimg.com


one of the funniest movie moments ever....  Of course I was the right age for it too.
2014-07-10 06:54:23 AM  
2 votes:
Give it enough publicity and this fark of a DA will back off. This is the stuff you can boast about to your colleagues, not the country.
2014-07-09 09:49:50 PM  
2 votes:

Werehamster: What really gets me is that a cop said that they would use "special software" to determine if the penis is the kid's. Huh? What's the name of the program? Who manufactured it? How in the world can anyone tell if it actually works? Will the prosecution be required to prove that the software does what it's supposed to do? If so, how will it do so?


There is software that IDs the unique curves of an ear. I guess it's an iteration of that. Map the veins and such...Pretty farked up in this case, given the circumstances.

Thank GOD cellphones with cameras were not around in my teens. No way I'd have the security clearance I have now.
2014-07-09 09:42:20 PM  
2 votes:

oh_please: Lamberts Ho Man: Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault

Want to know where that injection goes? No, you probably don't.

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-th e rapy/

Any body want to lay odds on white girl/black guy?

Read upthread. He's a white guy. Quit being a racist asshole.


What exactly makes him a racist asshole for assuming that? I bet you that the majority of the people in this thread were thinking the same thing because you know why? There is a very good track record of silly shiat like this turning out that exact way. So why does people assuming that offend you so much and make you start calling people racist? Project much?
2014-07-09 09:39:55 PM  
2 votes:
What really gets me is that a cop said that they would use "special software" to determine if the penis is the kid's. Huh? What's the name of the program? Who manufactured it? How in the world can anyone tell if it actually works? Will the prosecution be required to prove that the software does what it's supposed to do? If so, how will it do so?
2014-07-09 09:37:32 PM  
2 votes:
"He said they took him to a room and took pictures of his genitalia," Bigley said. "I asked if they're allowed to do that, and [Trey] said, 'I tried to refuse,'" which he did, he didn't want to do it. They told him if he did not they would do it by force."

Isn't that rape, or at least sexual assault?

And then there is this.

Simms was allowed to leave the area to visit family, but will be back for another court date on July 15.

If I were him I would leave the state and not come back. If somebody who had already raped me told me the exact day they were going to rape me again I would leave and not come back. And wherever he is, his family needs to report this to the FBI and try to get them to investigate.
2014-07-09 09:30:58 PM  
2 votes:

muddythinker: The county prosecutor, Ebert, has a terrible reputation.  Seriously, he's been nominated for Worst Prosecutor of the Year several times.  http://www.theagitator.com/2012/01/02/the-2011-worst-prosecutor-of-th e -year-award/


From your link

Jackson's 57-page memorandum opinion is scathing in its findings of prosecutorial misbehavior by Ebert and his assistant, Richard A. Conway. Conduct evidently included choreographing and coordinating witness testimony, withholding tapes of witness interviews from the defense, and knowingly allowing false testimony to be introduced at trial.

How the hell does this guy still have a job and isn't rotting in a prison cell??
2014-07-09 09:29:07 PM  
2 votes:
So let me get this straight: Someone pissing on the side of a highway, hundreds of miles from the nearest rest stop can be labeled a sex offender, yet police strapping down a 17 year old, forcing him to get a boner, and snapping pictures of it is considered a-ok?

Counter-sue the police for manufacture of child pornography. Bring the whole farkin' diseased, corrupt temple down on their heads. It'll be Biblical.
2014-07-09 09:04:15 PM  
2 votes:
How can one be charged with molesting themselves? The nessessary intent cannot possibly be there. Are we going to charge masturbating teenagers with statutory rape?

And beyond that, how can you charge someone as an adult for being underaged? The legal definition of underaged anything requires them to be too young to knowledgably provide consent. The legal requirement for being charged as an adult requires precisely the opposite. These things cannot be true simultaneously. Any argument for one position necessarily invalidates the other.

How in the world did this even get to trial?
/NAL
2014-07-09 08:57:27 PM  
2 votes:

ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.


EXACTLY.

Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

Oh, boy, I smell a lawsuit...

Foster asked how that would be accomplished and was told that "we just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot and then take the pictures that we need."

Holy shiat, are you kidding me???? If this lawyer doesn't take the city for everything they have, he absolutely sucks as a lawyer.
2014-07-09 08:52:11 PM  
2 votes:
Dear Manassas has an established history of being fascinated with such things. It was where John Wayne Bobbitt had his unfortunate accident. Three years ago, the town got a case of the pearl-clutching vapors because an "adult" store opened in Old Town. They subsequently changed their zoning laws so it could never happen again, which I think is considered spot zoning, which is illegal.

See here:

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/amanda-hess/2011/04/manassas-sex-shop-fight- c uts-across-class-lines-10502.html

Lastly but most disturbing, Bob Marshall is the state delegate for Manassas. Take a stroll through his Wikipedia page to get an idea of what kind of specimen he is.
2014-07-09 08:37:45 PM  
2 votes:
I am SO glad people and prosecutors were not so sex-panicked in the 80s... I and everyone I knew back then would be ex-cons for exhibiting our normal teenage behavior.  I had a 15-year-old girlfriend when I was 17. Age of consent is 16 here... So as far as anyone is concerned, we never did anything remotely intimate. Nope. Nothing at all.

When I was 15 I was dating a 19-year-old. She'd have been in jail and on the sex offenders list if our teen years had been like they are now. Her parents knew we were together and they didn't mind. MY parents knew we were together and they didn't mind.

Hell, the aforementioned 15-year-old's parents invited me on a trip to a ski resort and let me sleep in the same room as their daughters. They simply didn't freak out about teenage relationships like people do today.

Granted, I never sent unsolicited dick Polaroids to anyone when I was a teen... But still, people need to chill out. Teenagers have sex. It's what they DO. It's what we are all wired to be like when our hormones are going crazy.

These laws exist to protect adolescents and children from ADULT predators and exploitation. We really need to rewrite our laws to simply exclude teenagers from statutory rape and CP charges involving their girlfriends/boyfriends, except in extreme circumstances.

Here's what I'd do if I were this boy:  Find a way to alter the appearance of my penis. Maybe add some spots, or find a way to change the color, or something. That way, when they compare photo to reality, they'll have to say "If the dick in the pic doesn't click, you must acquit." (I know "acquit" doesn't rhyme with "dick". Shut up.)
2014-07-09 08:37:43 PM  
2 votes:
The most amusing solution to the problem would be to treat camera-possessing-devices like tobacco products and deny them to those under 18. Seems like it'd solve a lot of problems all at once and it'd be a fairly nifty troll at the same time.
2014-07-09 07:39:44 PM  
2 votes:
Manassas is a backwards third-world shiathole run by ignorant, racist lunatics. Hardly any surprise this would happen there.
2014-07-09 06:58:40 PM  
2 votes:
Pigs.
2014-07-10 04:26:45 PM  
1 votes:
Manassas City Manager Patrick Pate acknowledged Thursday that the department and the city had been fielding irate calls from across the country and internationally after the story broke. He said the city was being portrayed unfairly, given the fact that the photos were never actually taken.

The only way to portray your city unfairly, Patrick Pate, would be to offer a positive comment regarding to it! You and the rest of the city employees are the lowest of the low!
2014-07-10 04:22:41 PM  
1 votes:

freetomato: And they've backed off....


I'm surprised they didn't charge the aunt with obstruction of justice, although sending the kid out of state was a smart move. The defense could have forced an extradition hearing if those evil dirtbags tried to force him to return so they could execute their warrant.

Still, that a judge even signed that warrant stands as a symbol of how unfaithful the government has been to its people.
2014-07-10 01:23:32 PM  
1 votes:
W-E-N-D-Y
2014-07-10 12:54:47 PM  
1 votes:

Babwa Wawa: freetomato: Babwa Wawa: freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.

You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.

I was a party animal, not an easy piece of ass. There's a difference, ya know? I actually feel sorry for the girls to whom I refer, the ones who send out sexy pics, and use sex to get attention.  They don't realize that being overtly sexual + internet means that their actions will follow them forever.  You have to wonder how much attention their parents pay to them. They may have been around when I was a teen, but we didn't have the internet and cellphones for them to advertise on.  How old are you, out of curiousity?  You sound like a young person who hasn't raised a child.

I'm 42. Two kids. Teens are no more promiscuous now than they were when I was a teen.
As evidenced by both surveys and dropping teen pregnancy rates.


Not a fight I'd care to step into, but a few thoughts.
Back in the day, for the most part, the only "documentation" of teens being   irresponsible   teens was that poor Catholic girl who was sent out of state for an extended stay with relatives who came back looking a little different. Additionally, the magical power of the typical boomer's older siblings/cousins/etc. to pound the living snot out of those who decided to, uh, "kiss" and tell kept the rumors and damage to reputations limited.

Many of the counterbalances we had then have been wiped away by technology and social changes. Bullies have the ability to reach a far greater audience now. As freetomato pointed out, we have always had AWs (and people going through an AW stage) among us, but they were able to put the past behind them as they grew up. Since the internet never forgets, this isn't true any more.

Additionally, the inexplicable change in our attitude and policies from reforming, giving second chances, and judges using judgment to permanent punishment, intrusive parole, zero tolerance, draconian punishments, and mandatory sentences means that far fewer people are able to pay their debt to society and move on. It's injustice writ large that we have as many citizens imprisoned as we have military personnel, including the Guard and Reserves.
2014-07-10 09:41:23 AM  
1 votes:

lindalouwho: No, it's not. And there has already been quite the backlash - I'm betting they will not proceed this way.

I'm hoping my optimism will somewhat temper your cynicism ;-)


Perhaps my cynicism is justified by the very fact that they WANT to do this. Even if they fail it certainly paints a picture about law enforcement attitudes towards "civilians".
2014-07-10 08:48:09 AM  
1 votes:

Babwa Wawa: freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.

You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.


I was a party animal, not an easy piece of ass. There's a difference, ya know? I actually feel sorry for the girls to whom I refer, the ones who send out sexy pics, and use sex to get attention.  They don't realize that being overtly sexual + internet means that their actions will follow them forever.  You have to wonder how much attention their parents pay to them. They may have been around when I was a teen, but we didn't have the internet and cellphones for them to advertise on.  How old are you, out of curiousity?  You sound like a young person who hasn't raised a child.
2014-07-10 08:31:26 AM  
1 votes:

SpectroBoy: Fr._Peter_Fitznuggly: The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.

And the boys parents should mention this to the doctor before he starts.

"You know, if this turns out not to be medically necessary we WILL be reporting it to the medical board for review"


The police woudl likely arrest the doctor/nurse for nto doing it.

An emergency-room nurse at the West Palm Beach Veterans Administration Medical Center said she was just following hospital policy when she told a Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy she couldn't draw blood from a suspected drunken driver.

Minutes later, Marjorie Lachaud-DePalis was slapped in handcuffs, led to a patrol car and charged with obstructing justice.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/nurse-arrested-for-n o t-drawing-blood-from-drunk-dr/nYjRn/
2014-07-10 08:31:03 AM  
1 votes:

freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.


You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.
2014-07-10 07:37:21 AM  
1 votes:

liam76: Coming on a Bicycle: Give it enough publicity and this fark of a DA will back off. This is the stuff you can boast about to your colleagues, not the country.

Can we mention the DA by name?

Because I think repeating that enough with "wants to look at a 17yr olds penis" to the point it is the first thing that comes up in google woudl help.


You mean that Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Claiborne Richardson "wants to look at a 17 year old's penis"?  Or the fact that he works under Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B. Ebert?
2014-07-10 06:49:00 AM  
1 votes:

UndeadPoetsSociety: kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.

Why does it matter whose penis it is?  The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics.  Case closed.  Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.


Because if it's a 6570 day old penis it's just harassment and not child pornography, but if it's a 6569 day old penis, it's felony child pornography.
Ral
2014-07-10 03:45:23 AM  
1 votes:
The appropriate way for this to have been handled would be for the girl's father to contact the boy's father, and the boy's father should whip his son's ass and take his phone away.
2014-07-10 02:45:12 AM  
1 votes:
In a normal world, here's how this situation would be handled:

Guy's mother:  "OMG did you send naked pictures to that girl?"

Guy:  "Ummmmm....maybe"

Guy's mother:  "You're grounded for a month and I'm taking your phone while  you're grounded."

I'm pretty sure that's what would have happened if I did that when I was a teen except I probably would have been grounded for 3 months - and have to mow and rake the lawn without pay for 3 months too, but my parents were kind of strict.
2014-07-10 12:35:14 AM  
1 votes:
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2014-07-10 12:29:10 AM  
1 votes:

UndeadPoetsSociety: Why does it matter whose penis it is? The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics. Case closed. Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.


Whether the penis is his or not is the key to the case; if it's his dick, he's a producer and interstate distributor of of child pornography. Interstate since it used the phone network, which means they could threaten him with federal charges if he won't plead guilty to a state felony. Getting a felony conviction is crucial to make sure prospective employers will be aware of his conviction for the rest of his life, that he won't be allowed to visit countries like Canada, that he effectively won't be able to live in towns that have schools, that he'll have to notify his neighbors of his status, that he'll have to post warning signs at his residence during Halloweens, etc.

There also hasn't been any suggestion of evidence that his girlfriend asked him not to send a dick pic. But either way, that's incidental the main charge, and would only be important if they want to try him for different crimes, or if his girlfriend's family wants to go after his family's property in a civil suit.
2014-07-10 12:11:43 AM  
1 votes:
And I also didn't post anyone's email addresses; just the links to their department pages. If they wanna ban me for it though, fine, whatever. I've been on this site for over a decade and if being disgusted by whatever the hell is going on in this case gets me booted, then I'll live with it. I won't like it, but eh, if that's the price to pay for having a strong opinion against state sanctioned child sexual assault, so be it...
2014-07-09 11:38:57 PM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.


Why does it matter whose penis it is?  The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics.  Case closed.  Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.
2014-07-09 11:30:05 PM  
1 votes:
So, why aren't they forcing HER to get an erection so they can take photos of her genitalia to prove that... wait a second....

On a serious note, something tells me a lot more people would be cracking out the torches and pitchforks if they were suggesting they should photograph a female's genitals for more in-depth comparison. But he has one of those evil penises so it must be all his fault!
2014-07-09 11:13:40 PM  
1 votes:

oh_please: Lamberts Ho Man: Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault

Want to know where that injection goes? No, you probably don't.

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-th e rapy/

Any body want to lay odds on white girl/black guy?

Read upthread. He's a white guy. Quit being a racist asshole.


Meh ... I've spent a lot of time in Virginia. And looks like I'm hardly the only person to have that thought. Glad I was wrong - makes the situation minisculy less asinine.
2014-07-09 11:09:08 PM  
1 votes:
Bet that kid's really enjoying his Male Privilege.
2014-07-09 10:42:04 PM  
1 votes:
West Virginia used to be part of Virginia. They broke off and formed their own state because they were that ashamed of being associated with ignorant asshats like this. True story.

That kid should definitely get himself to somewhere socially progressive and never look back. His family should certainly make efforts to involve the ACLU & FBI.

Every single person involved on the side of the prosecution should be placed on a sex offender registry and put in general population at the nearest prison. "Well, the prosecutor said we had to get his dick hard and take pictures because reasons, so that's what we're going to do." fark's sake, what a bunch of psychopaths. It drives me insane that none of these child abusing thugs has the guts and depth of character to say they're not going to do this and that they won't allow anyone else to do it either.
2014-07-09 10:20:54 PM  
1 votes:
Want to see an underage boy's peener in a hospital?  Jim'll fix it!

www.redicecreations.com
2014-07-09 09:56:11 PM  
1 votes:

sillydragon: DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.


That was when my bullshiat alarm went off again after I'd hit its snooze button at the beginning of the story. It sounds like something an interrogator would make up to get a naive suspect to confess/plead guilty.
2014-07-09 09:47:22 PM  
1 votes:

sillydragon: DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.


Virginia cops have always been special dicks.
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2014-07-09 09:44:02 PM  
1 votes:

ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.


Considering this is the court system the girl won't be touched but the boy will be nailed for receiving it because vagina
2014-07-09 09:34:35 PM  
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t2.gstatic.com

Picture of the scuzzbag State's Attorney.
2014-07-09 09:34:02 PM  
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Reading the government's press release that they haven't actually done what the defense side says they threatened to do, I'm willing to consider the possibility that the detective and prosecutor are lying to the defendant, as they may possibly lawfully do, threatening to do this ridiculously humiliating search warrant to try to persuade/borderline coerce a guilty plea.

The idea that that they need new photos of not just of his penis but of his erection to identify him in evidence is ridiculous and unprecedented AFAIK. There are no other distinguishing marks on other identifying information in the evidence? It's absurd.
2014-07-09 09:32:25 PM  
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FuzedBox: So let me get this straight: Someone pissing on the side of a highway, hundreds of miles from the nearest rest stop can be labeled a sex offender, yet police strapping down a 17 year old, forcing him to get a boner, and snapping pictures of it is considered a-ok?

Counter-sue the police for manufacture of child pornography. Bring the whole farkin' diseased, corrupt temple down on their heads. It'll be Biblical.


I am pretty sure most police and prosecutors have a "It's ok when we do it" attitude about many of the (too many) laws that we have. So yeah, I would not be surprised if they genuinely think your comparison is invalid.

It is sad really.
2014-07-09 09:19:50 PM  
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asmodeus224: sounds like the sender is black sending picts to a white girl...just guessing...prove me wrong, virginia....prove me wrong!


Read upthread. Since you can't seem to do that, I'll give you the link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2686387/Police-want-photograp h -boy-17-state-arousal-giving-INJECTION-prove-sent-explicit-video-girlf riend-15-child-pornography-case.html

and another link upthread http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/police-have-a-warrant-to-see-te e nagers-erection-in-sexting-c

Take your racial bullshiat somewhere else.
2014-07-09 09:17:26 PM  
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told her that her client must either plead guilty or police would obtain another search warrant "for pictures of his erect penis," for comparison to the evidence from the teen's cell phone. Foster asked how that would be accomplished and was told that "we just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot and then take the pictures that we need."

Two questions for the Fark Lawyer Brigade:

1.  Isn't a search warrant only for things that currently exist?  Can it be used for things yet to be produced?  Can it be used to manufacture evidence?

2.  Can a court order that a foreign substance be injected into a person's body for things other than medicinal purposes?  Can it order surgery to remove a finger to take pictures of the hand with only three fingers to compare against another picture of a hand with three fingers to see it is the same hand?
2014-07-09 09:13:31 PM  
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ramblinwreck: ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.

But systemic misandry in our court systems isn't real I've been told...


For the same crime a black man will spend more time in jail than a hispanic man than a white man than a woman.

Just look at the male teacher to female teacher sentencing ratio when it comes to diddling students.
2014-07-09 09:12:29 PM  
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Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


Done in one.
2014-07-09 09:11:59 PM  
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Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


Nope even if he sues them and wins they won't admit any wrongdoing:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/16/david-eckert-enemas-anal-pro b e-lawsuit_n_4610493.html

Boys should be taught about feminism so stuff like this doesn't happen.
2014-07-09 09:10:07 PM  
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Who's going to issue the warrant for the arrest of the cops, the Commonwealth Attorney and the judge who signs the "picture" warrant for conspiracy to commit child abuse, child pron, distribution of child pron, assault, sex abuse etc.???????
2014-07-09 09:09:19 PM  
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Nope kids, BuzzFeed, as much as I hates them, has pictures and the name of the boy: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/police-have-a-warrant-to-see-te e nagers-erection-in-sexting-c

He's White, so there's some other conspiracy angle you guys should chase. I;m inclined to agree it's something personal. They have his electronic devices, so WTFF is going on with this?

Is the irony tag on vacation or the sick tag sick? Obvious seems kind of a bad choice.
2014-07-09 09:04:45 PM  
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The article said the 17yo in question is a football player.  I have a sneaking suspicion that the 17yo is a black kid, and the 15yo is a white girl.  That would explain why the police and the prosecutor have such a hard-on for him.
2014-07-09 09:04:26 PM  
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Foster said Detective Abbott told her that after obtaining photos of the teen's erect penis he would "use special software to compare pictures of this penis to this penis. Who does this? It's just crazy."

I'll give you three guesses who does this, and the first two don't count.
2014-07-09 09:04:11 PM  
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I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days. Their enabling parents don't want to admit it. One chased my son when he was a junior. Kind of freaked him out. She sent a nudie pic and his dad was there when she sent it. Dad said "The girl is nuts. Delete this and stay away from her." The girl ended up later accusing two boys, on different occasions, of raping her. I don't discount rape in the slightest, but when this girl knocked on my door, I smelled psycho on her. Had my son not had any common sense, he'd have been accused too.

I would have too for that matter. I dated a very mature 16 year old for a while when I was 19. I'm sure his girlfriends after me appreciated that he wasn't a fumbling noob.
2014-07-09 09:02:35 PM  
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If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.
2014-07-09 09:02:16 PM  
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There's so much going wrong here that any attempt to lampoon this simply fails in light of the utter ridiculousness of the true story.
2014-07-09 08:49:25 PM  
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What the fark is wrong with police today? Police get enormous pensions that we pay for, they bust peaceful people with a gram of marijuana and those hippies go to jail for life in prison, the police extort normal people and plant drugs on them when those normal people have done nothing wrong, then, when it all quiets down, the police shoot their dogs. Who are the folks that profit from this?
2014-07-09 08:45:19 PM  
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If this prosecutor and police department want dick pics so bad that they're willing to take a kid to a hospital to get them, people should help them out by sending any pictures of erected penises they can find to the sheriff's email.
2014-07-09 08:42:47 PM  
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On the case...

images.huffingtonpost.com
2014-07-09 08:42:36 PM  
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ko_kyi: Wasn't there a time when a prosecutor could write a possible defendant a letter that basically said, "knock that shiat off now and permanently, or we will ruin your life" and it was off the books, no harm done to anyone if the defendant complied, and everyone went on with there life?  I know some states can still do it.


Yeah, but that doesn't show as a "win" in their score sheet. If they want to become a judge or Senator, they need to have raw numbers that say they were hard on crime.
2014-07-09 08:41:21 PM  
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He's 17. He probably already has an erection.
2014-07-09 08:39:05 PM  
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Does it have a mole?
2014-07-09 08:36:57 PM  
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Came for the tallywhacker scene, leaving busting a gut
2014-07-09 08:36:51 PM  
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Artilce claims they are/were boyfriend and girlfriend.

Farking eachother is okay at that age but do you have to close your eyes when he whips it out?
2014-07-09 08:34:04 PM  
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Funkyourdaughter: Or she could have blocked his number, but that takes like at least 30 seconds so eff that noise.


she sexted him first. it wasn't -her- complaining about getting sexted back, it was her mom.
2014-07-09 08:25:34 PM  
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Please, please, can we call it a tallywacker?
2014-07-09 08:16:13 PM  
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kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.


I don't agree with the whole child pornography angle I just think sending pictures of dicks, any dicks, to people who've told you to stop is harassment and legal action is justified...
2014-07-09 07:51:51 PM  
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lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?


pretty much this. we are through some sort of portal here...
2014-07-09 07:20:57 PM  
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That's about the size of it, lindalouwho.

Fu*k tha police.
 
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