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2014-07-09 05:06:48 PM  
This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.
 
2014-07-09 05:27:41 PM  

Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


More so the prosecutor who is trying to make a case against him in the first place.  There needs to be an exception in child pornography laws for voluntarily sent 'selfies' amongst minors.
 
2014-07-09 05:46:44 PM  
So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.
 
2014-07-09 06:58:40 PM  
Pigs.
 
2014-07-09 07:19:22 PM  
Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?
 
2014-07-09 07:20:57 PM  
That's about the size of it, lindalouwho.

Fu*k tha police.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2014-07-09 07:22:38 PM  

lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?


Yep, and they want to make this child porn so that they can prosecute a child for making child porn -- of himself.

I bet one Internet Dollar the 15 year old girl's parents are well-connected in some way.
 
2014-07-09 07:39:44 PM  
Manassas is a backwards third-world shiathole run by ignorant, racist lunatics. Hardly any surprise this would happen there.
 
2014-07-09 07:44:03 PM  
So, assuming he was in fact told to stop, then we have a harassment issue at most.

Manassas City police released this statement shortly after 6 p.m. Wednesday night:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Juvenile Sexting Case
On January 23, 2014 Manassas City Police was contacted by a parent of a 15 YOA female juvenile who was sent pornographic videos by a 17 YOA male suspect after repeatedly being told to stop.  Upon further investigating the incident charges of manufacturing and distributing child pornography were brought against the 17 YOA male suspect on January 28, 2014 after consultation with the Commonwealth Attorney's Office.  The matter was set for trial on June 4th 2014 where charges were nolle prosqui by a Prince William County Assistant Commonwealth Attorney.
The circumstances on the decision to dismiss charges and bring forward new charges cannot be released at this time due to this incident being an active investigation and involving juveniles.  New charges of manufacturing and distributing child pornography have been brought forward and a court date is pending.
It is not the policy of the Manassas City Police or the Commonwealth Attorney's Office to authorize invasive search procedures of suspects in cases of this nature and no such procedures have been conducted in this case.  Beyond that, neither the Police Department nor the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office discusses evidentiary matters prior to court hearings.
###
Adrienne E. Helms
Crime Prevention Specialist &
Public Information Officer
Manassas City Police Department
9518 Fairview Ave
Manassas, VA 20110
 
2014-07-09 07:44:17 PM  
There's an update on the article with the police having released a statement, view it here.

On first blush, if they're having to release a statement defending their actions, that likely means they're getting a lot of backlash over this, so that's good.

They do mention that the girl asked him to stop sending her dick pics, which, if true, and he kept doing it, does make him sort of a jerk, but it's certainly not worth felony charges.  If that was the actual situation the correct course of action would have been to have her parents tell his parents, and have them ground him and take away his phone.  This entire situation does not warrant police involvement.
 
2014-07-09 07:51:51 PM  

lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?


pretty much this. we are through some sort of portal here...
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-09 07:53:28 PM  
Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.
 
2014-07-09 07:58:30 PM  

some_beer_drinker: lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?

pretty much this. we are through some sort of portal here...


They could always try a line up.
 
2014-07-09 08:04:18 PM  
If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...
 
2014-07-09 08:06:21 PM  

PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...


They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.
 
2014-07-09 08:08:00 PM  
So are they going to have a book of mugshots, only it's picture of underage penises?
 
2014-07-09 08:10:54 PM  

labman: So are they going to have a book of mugshots, only it's picture of underage penises?


img.fark.net
 
2014-07-09 08:16:13 PM  

kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.


I don't agree with the whole child pornography angle I just think sending pictures of dicks, any dicks, to people who've told you to stop is harassment and legal action is justified...
 
2014-07-09 08:17:45 PM  
I may already have this filed away in my WIE directory.

Let me cross reference...
 
2014-07-09 08:18:41 PM  
Up next. Charging teen with statuatory rape for touching himself. To be tried as an adult.
 
2014-07-09 08:21:07 PM  

kronicfeld: They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.


In terms of the harassment statutes, I can't imagine how it would make much difference whose penis he was sending her pictures of.

In terms of pushing child porn charges, I'd say if investigators can't tell whether it's an underaged penis, then it's not worth prosecuting as if it were.
 
2014-07-09 08:23:03 PM  
The county prosecutor, Ebert, has a terrible reputation.  Seriously, he's been nominated for Worst Prosecutor of the Year several times.  http://www.theagitator.com/2012/01/02/the-2011-worst-prosecutor-of-th e -year-award/
 
2014-07-09 08:23:53 PM  

PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...


Let he who hath never sent a dick pic, cast the first stone....
 
2014-07-09 08:25:34 PM  
Please, please, can we call it a tallywacker?
 
2014-07-09 08:25:49 PM  
FTFA: "...the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged."


i486.photobucket.com
Eeetz tuff to be a man, baby!
 
2014-07-09 08:27:21 PM  
Hey, my first sex was when I was 15 and she just turned 17. So that's ok as long as I didn't take a picture of the "act"? Or should I just turn her in after all these years?

/she taught me a lot though!
 
2014-07-09 08:28:15 PM  
F$ck the police and the prosecutors.

Seriously.
 
2014-07-09 08:28:30 PM  
No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault
 
2014-07-09 08:29:26 PM  
Or she could have blocked his number, but that takes like at least 30 seconds so eff that noise.
 
2014-07-09 08:32:00 PM  
Kid is guilty of being an ass.

A two year difference in age as the reason to destroy a person's life?  Oh I hope this demand goes national.  Forced to create child pornography so it can be used in testimony against himself?

I hope he belts out COLUMBIA, GEM OF THE OCEAN!  THE HOME OF THE BRAVE AND THE FREE! when he does it.
 
2014-07-09 08:32:28 PM  
What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?
 
2014-07-09 08:32:53 PM  

Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


Hopefully they go there next week from being fire bombed. An armed and angry mob would be justified in this case.
 
2014-07-09 08:34:04 PM  

Funkyourdaughter: Or she could have blocked his number, but that takes like at least 30 seconds so eff that noise.


she sexted him first. it wasn't -her- complaining about getting sexted back, it was her mom.
 
2014-07-09 08:34:08 PM  
It is not going to be long before the cops openly demand bribes to let you keep walking down the streets in this country.

I mean, more than they probably already do in some areas.
 
2014-07-09 08:34:25 PM  
Follow-up:  Additional charges filed against teen for walking around a hospital with an erection.
 
2014-07-09 08:36:20 PM  

PhiloeBedoe: kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.

I don't agree with the whole child pornography angle I just think sending pictures of dicks, any dicks, to people who've told you to stop is harassment and legal action is justified...


*Possibly* a mild slap on the wrist. Jail time, let alone prison time, is absolutely unwarranted.

Even sending a Photoshop-merge of a lotus blossom and a thigh is more traumatic than sending a picture of a dick. The "victim" just looks at it, shrugs, and hits delete.
 
2014-07-09 08:36:51 PM  
Artilce claims they are/were boyfriend and girlfriend.

Farking eachother is okay at that age but do you have to close your eyes when he whips it out?
 
2014-07-09 08:36:57 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: Hey, my first sex was when I was 15 and she just turned 17. So that's ok as long as I didn't take a picture of the "act"? Or should I just turn her in after all these years?

/she taught me a lot though!


I don't feel comfortable talking about this until you are 18.
 
2014-07-09 08:36:57 PM  
Came for the tallywhacker scene, leaving busting a gut
 
2014-07-09 08:37:43 PM  
The most amusing solution to the problem would be to treat camera-possessing-devices like tobacco products and deny them to those under 18. Seems like it'd solve a lot of problems all at once and it'd be a fairly nifty troll at the same time.
 
2014-07-09 08:37:45 PM  
I am SO glad people and prosecutors were not so sex-panicked in the 80s... I and everyone I knew back then would be ex-cons for exhibiting our normal teenage behavior.  I had a 15-year-old girlfriend when I was 17. Age of consent is 16 here... So as far as anyone is concerned, we never did anything remotely intimate. Nope. Nothing at all.

When I was 15 I was dating a 19-year-old. She'd have been in jail and on the sex offenders list if our teen years had been like they are now. Her parents knew we were together and they didn't mind. MY parents knew we were together and they didn't mind.

Hell, the aforementioned 15-year-old's parents invited me on a trip to a ski resort and let me sleep in the same room as their daughters. They simply didn't freak out about teenage relationships like people do today.

Granted, I never sent unsolicited dick Polaroids to anyone when I was a teen... But still, people need to chill out. Teenagers have sex. It's what they DO. It's what we are all wired to be like when our hormones are going crazy.

These laws exist to protect adolescents and children from ADULT predators and exploitation. We really need to rewrite our laws to simply exclude teenagers from statutory rape and CP charges involving their girlfriends/boyfriends, except in extreme circumstances.

Here's what I'd do if I were this boy:  Find a way to alter the appearance of my penis. Maybe add some spots, or find a way to change the color, or something. That way, when they compare photo to reality, they'll have to say "If the dick in the pic doesn't click, you must acquit." (I know "acquit" doesn't rhyme with "dick". Shut up.)
 
2014-07-09 08:38:36 PM  

Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?


I don't think that is the case.
The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

I don't know what the new charges are.

I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.
 
2014-07-09 08:38:46 PM  

dangelder: It is not going to be long before the cops openly demand bribes to let you keep walking down the streets in this country.

I mean, more than they probably already do in some areas.


I'm mentally unbalanced and presently located somewhere near Albuquerque.  I wish I had that kind of a sweetheart deal.

I don't walk the streets here at ALL.  In fact, I don't leave the room.  In this area, the police will simply execute you.
 
2014-07-09 08:39:05 PM  
Does it have a mole?
 
2014-07-09 08:39:23 PM  
What the fark.
 
2014-07-09 08:39:42 PM  

nyseattitude: Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?

I don't think that is the case.
The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

I don't know what the new charges are.

I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.


Prosecutor probably said go arrest him we are charging him with x instead, and they did what they were told.
 
2014-07-09 08:40:23 PM  
Wasn't there a time when a prosecutor could write a possible defendant a letter that basically said, "knock that shiat off now and permanently, or we will ruin your life" and it was off the books, no harm done to anyone if the defendant complied, and everyone went on with there life?  I know some states can still do it.
 
2014-07-09 08:41:03 PM  

Mr. Ekshun: The most amusing solution to the problem would be to treat camera-possessing-devices like tobacco products and deny them to those under 18. Seems like it'd solve a lot of problems all at once and it'd be a fairly nifty troll at the same time.


There you go! All we need to do is make cameras into a controlled substance! If you're under 18 and using a camera, you go to jail!

No... wait...
 
2014-07-09 08:41:21 PM  
He's 17. He probably already has an erection.
 
2014-07-09 08:41:23 PM  

ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.


Came here to point this out. Pleased it's already been done.
 
2014-07-09 08:41:59 PM  

ferretman: Does it have a mole?


Only near a blue dress.
 
2014-07-09 08:42:03 PM  

ko_kyi: everyone went on with there life?


/their
//they're if you don't agree
 
2014-07-09 08:42:36 PM  

ko_kyi: Wasn't there a time when a prosecutor could write a possible defendant a letter that basically said, "knock that shiat off now and permanently, or we will ruin your life" and it was off the books, no harm done to anyone if the defendant complied, and everyone went on with there life?  I know some states can still do it.


Yeah, but that doesn't show as a "win" in their score sheet. If they want to become a judge or Senator, they need to have raw numbers that say they were hard on crime.
 
2014-07-09 08:42:47 PM  
On the case...

images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2014-07-09 08:43:26 PM  
I say, they were hard on crime.

/I keep a slingin' `em, and you keep a missin' `em.
 
2014-07-09 08:45:19 PM  
If this prosecutor and police department want dick pics so bad that they're willing to take a kid to a hospital to get them, people should help them out by sending any pictures of erected penises they can find to the sheriff's email.
 
2014-07-09 08:46:15 PM  

Calmamity: That's about the size of it, lindalouwho.

Fu*k tha police.


I thought the police *didn't* know the size of it yet.
 
2014-07-09 08:46:58 PM  

The One True TheDavid: ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.

Came here to point this out. Pleased it's already been done.


As we all know, it's sexist to hold women accountable for their actions. Men are little more than perverted beasts waiting to defile whatever they can, and should be harshly punished whenever possible.
 
2014-07-09 08:47:06 PM  
If they do reenact the erection, I hope they hire Michael bay to direct.

DICKSPLOSION
 
2014-07-09 08:47:40 PM  

ko_kyi: Wasn't there a time when a prosecutor could write a possible defendant a letter that basically said, "knock that shiat off now and permanently, or we will ruin your life" and it was off the books, no harm done to anyone if the defendant complied, and everyone went on with there life?  I know some states can still do it.


This strategy should be used for just about everything that's non-violent, making sure the offender knows that law enforcement has the evidence to convict on it if the offender gets in trouble again.  I'm not looking but I remember seeing somewhere that it did a great job of getting the drug trade out of certain neighborhoods.  I'm sure the hardcore ones just found somewhere else to go, but there are some places that are better than others for drug dealers to hang out (away from as many innocent bystanders as possible) and it might have put some non-hardcore people back on the right track.
 
2014-07-09 08:48:11 PM  
So...wow. OK.

Well. I certainly hope the prosecutor and police get what's coming to them. Shouldn't we be able to charge public figures with obvious waste of taxpayer money? How farking many sexts do they think were sent between high school students during the course of their railroa....I mean investigation?

I'd be willing to bet that number would take a few years to count to.
 
2014-07-09 08:48:15 PM  

firemanbuck: Let he who hath never sent a dick pic, cast the first bone....


FTFY.
 
2014-07-09 08:49:25 PM  
What the fark is wrong with police today? Police get enormous pensions that we pay for, they bust peaceful people with a gram of marijuana and those hippies go to jail for life in prison, the police extort normal people and plant drugs on them when those normal people have done nothing wrong, then, when it all quiets down, the police shoot their dogs. Who are the folks that profit from this?
 
2014-07-09 08:49:38 PM  
Maybe our teen boy needs to alter the appearance of his peen. A mustache, some tats, a little cap, and some dark sunglasses should give Mr. Happy a good disguise.

Seriously, making a 17 year old get a woody for the cops is all kinds of messed up. How does the 15 year old girl receiving some dick pics (possibly unwanted but likely not) translate into a lifetime on the sex offender registry?
 
2014-07-09 08:51:27 PM  

Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?


Read that as fallaciate
 
2014-07-09 08:52:04 PM  

Delay: What the fark is wrong with police today? Police get enormous pensions that we pay for, they bust peaceful people with a gram of marijuana and those hippies go to jail for life in prison, the police extort normal people and plant drugs on them when those normal people have done nothing wrong, then, when it all quiets down, the police shoot their dogs. Who are the folks that profit from this?


Police cant charge anyone without the prosecutors help.

The prosecutor can always decide to not charge someone the police suggest charging.

I dont think it is the police departments fault....overzealous prosecutor in an isolated incid......  BWAHAHAHAHA

I couldnt finish that last sentence. Sorry.
 
2014-07-09 08:52:11 PM  
Dear Manassas has an established history of being fascinated with such things. It was where John Wayne Bobbitt had his unfortunate accident. Three years ago, the town got a case of the pearl-clutching vapors because an "adult" store opened in Old Town. They subsequently changed their zoning laws so it could never happen again, which I think is considered spot zoning, which is illegal.

See here:

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/amanda-hess/2011/04/manassas-sex-shop-fight- c uts-across-class-lines-10502.html

Lastly but most disturbing, Bob Marshall is the state delegate for Manassas. Take a stroll through his Wikipedia page to get an idea of what kind of specimen he is.
 
2014-07-09 08:52:52 PM  
Every cop and prosecutor involved in this should be shot.
 
2014-07-09 08:53:49 PM  

nyseattitude: The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

I don't know what the new charges are.

I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.


My guess; Shrill harpy soccer mom with a connected hubby and/or civil lawyers on speed dial
 
2014-07-09 08:54:40 PM  
I heard the kid wrote his defense on his cock, but his lawyer said it would not stand up in court.
 
2014-07-09 08:55:26 PM  
The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.
 
2014-07-09 08:57:27 PM  

ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.


EXACTLY.

Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

Oh, boy, I smell a lawsuit...

Foster asked how that would be accomplished and was told that "we just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot and then take the pictures that we need."

Holy shiat, are you kidding me???? If this lawyer doesn't take the city for everything they have, he absolutely sucks as a lawyer.
 
2014-07-09 08:57:41 PM  

doglover: So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.


I thought were didnt have to bare witness against ourselves
 
2014-07-09 08:59:43 PM  

Delay: What the fark is wrong with police today? Police get enormous pensions that we pay for, they bust peaceful people with a gram of marijuana and those hippies go to jail for life in prison, the police extort normal people and plant drugs on them when those normal people have done nothing wrong, then, when it all quiets down, the police shoot their dogs. Who are the folks that profit from this?


This has nothing to do with anything you're saying.
 
2014-07-09 09:02:16 PM  
There's so much going wrong here that any attempt to lampoon this simply fails in light of the utter ridiculousness of the true story.
 
2014-07-09 09:02:35 PM  
If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.
 
2014-07-09 09:03:53 PM  
We need this statement enshrined somewhere:

Upholding the law is not a valid defense for breaking the law.

And then hold authority accountable to it with stiff mandatory penalties for infractions committed "under color of authority".
 
2014-07-09 09:04:11 PM  
I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days. Their enabling parents don't want to admit it. One chased my son when he was a junior. Kind of freaked him out. She sent a nudie pic and his dad was there when she sent it. Dad said "The girl is nuts. Delete this and stay away from her." The girl ended up later accusing two boys, on different occasions, of raping her. I don't discount rape in the slightest, but when this girl knocked on my door, I smelled psycho on her. Had my son not had any common sense, he'd have been accused too.

I would have too for that matter. I dated a very mature 16 year old for a while when I was 19. I'm sure his girlfriends after me appreciated that he wasn't a fumbling noob.
 
2014-07-09 09:04:15 PM  
How can one be charged with molesting themselves? The nessessary intent cannot possibly be there. Are we going to charge masturbating teenagers with statutory rape?

And beyond that, how can you charge someone as an adult for being underaged? The legal definition of underaged anything requires them to be too young to knowledgably provide consent. The legal requirement for being charged as an adult requires precisely the opposite. These things cannot be true simultaneously. Any argument for one position necessarily invalidates the other.

How in the world did this even get to trial?
/NAL
 
2014-07-09 09:04:15 PM  

BSABSVR: If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.


What if the kid has a mental breakdown and cant have normal relationships and this event turns him into an actual predator?
 
2014-07-09 09:04:26 PM  
Hopefully the judge and prosecuter will lose in the next erection.
 
2014-07-09 09:04:26 PM  
Foster said Detective Abbott told her that after obtaining photos of the teen's erect penis he would "use special software to compare pictures of this penis to this penis. Who does this? It's just crazy."

I'll give you three guesses who does this, and the first two don't count.
 
2014-07-09 09:04:30 PM  
Here's hoping the prosecutor has a stroke. I'll burn a black candle for it.
 
2014-07-09 09:04:45 PM  
The article said the 17yo in question is a football player.  I have a sneaking suspicion that the 17yo is a black kid, and the 15yo is a white girl.  That would explain why the police and the prosecutor have such a hard-on for him.
 
2014-07-09 09:06:22 PM  

positronica: The article said the 17yo in question is a football player.  I have a sneaking suspicion that the 17yo is a black kid, and the 15yo is a white girl.  That would explain why the police and the prosecutor have such a hard-on for him.


In that case, maybe mommy said if she cant have it noone will after seeing the pics of his joint.
 
2014-07-09 09:06:42 PM  

BitwiseShift: Up next. Charging teen with statuatory rape for touching himself. To be tried as an adult.


Wasn't there a girl in Pennsylvania or something that was charged with that? I recall seeing it on Fark. The girl was in juvie or something and got caught diddling herself. Any of you farkers want to refresh my memory?
 
2014-07-09 09:06:43 PM  
Yeah, i was going to ask why only the guy was charged and not the girl if they were both minors? Especially considering she sent the first pics according tfa.
 
2014-07-09 09:09:19 PM  
Nope kids, BuzzFeed, as much as I hates them, has pictures and the name of the boy: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/police-have-a-warrant-to-see-te e nagers-erection-in-sexting-c

He's White, so there's some other conspiracy angle you guys should chase. I;m inclined to agree it's something personal. They have his electronic devices, so WTFF is going on with this?

Is the irony tag on vacation or the sick tag sick? Obvious seems kind of a bad choice.
 
2014-07-09 09:10:05 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Yeah, i was going to ask why only the guy was charged and not the girl if they were both minors? Especially considering she sent the first pics according tfa.



Girls want equal rights, but also special treatment.


/cant explain that
 
2014-07-09 09:10:07 PM  
Who's going to issue the warrant for the arrest of the cops, the Commonwealth Attorney and the judge who signs the "picture" warrant for conspiracy to commit child abuse, child pron, distribution of child pron, assault, sex abuse etc.???????
 
2014-07-09 09:10:44 PM  

ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.


But systemic misandry in our court systems isn't real I've been told...
 
2014-07-09 09:11:52 PM  
Worst. MakeAWish. EVAR
 
2014-07-09 09:11:59 PM  

Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


Nope even if he sues them and wins they won't admit any wrongdoing:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/16/david-eckert-enemas-anal-pro b e-lawsuit_n_4610493.html

Boys should be taught about feminism so stuff like this doesn't happen.
 
2014-07-09 09:12:29 PM  

Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


Done in one.
 
2014-07-09 09:12:48 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Yeah, i was going to ask why only the guy was charged and not the girl if they were both minors?


The answer, while as obvious as the nose on your face, makes some people uncomfortable.  I've heard of cases where a 15 year old boy knocked up a 17 year old girl and got prosecuted for it.
 
2014-07-09 09:13:31 PM  

ramblinwreck: ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.

But systemic misandry in our court systems isn't real I've been told...


For the same crime a black man will spend more time in jail than a hispanic man than a white man than a woman.

Just look at the male teacher to female teacher sentencing ratio when it comes to diddling students.
 
2014-07-09 09:13:57 PM  

doglover: So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.


Don't think that would be possible to implement, but I like the idea.

/off topic, you troll the fark outta the main page, don't you?  It's hilarious.
 
2014-07-09 09:14:22 PM  

positronica: The article said the 17yo in question is a football player.  I have a sneaking suspicion that the 17yo is a black kid, and the 15yo is a white girl.  That would explain why the police and the prosecutor have such a hard-on for him.


Actually, no...     http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2686387/Police-want-photograp h -boy-17-state-arousal-giving-INJECTION-prove-sent-explicit-video-girlf riend-15-child-pornography-case.html
 
2014-07-09 09:14:22 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: Hey, my first sex was when I was 15 and she just turned 17. So that's ok as long as I didn't take a picture of the "act"?


If you think that is confusing, just wait until these things start showing up in high schools.

i.imgbox.com
 
2014-07-09 09:15:22 PM  
sounds like the sender is black sending picts to a white girl...just guessing...prove me wrong, virginia....prove me wrong!
 
2014-07-09 09:16:28 PM  

Giltric: BSABSVR: If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.

What if the kid has a mental breakdown and cant have normal relationships and this event turns him into an actual predator?


The girl's mother, police and the DA will use that as proof that he was a ticking time bomb of course.
 
2014-07-09 09:16:52 PM  

nyseattitude: Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?

I don't think that is the case.
The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

I don't know what the new charges are.

I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.


I would bet my last dollar Little Princess' parents are connected.
 
2014-07-09 09:17:26 PM  
told her that her client must either plead guilty or police would obtain another search warrant "for pictures of his erect penis," for comparison to the evidence from the teen's cell phone. Foster asked how that would be accomplished and was told that "we just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot and then take the pictures that we need."

Two questions for the Fark Lawyer Brigade:

1.  Isn't a search warrant only for things that currently exist?  Can it be used for things yet to be produced?  Can it be used to manufacture evidence?

2.  Can a court order that a foreign substance be injected into a person's body for things other than medicinal purposes?  Can it order surgery to remove a finger to take pictures of the hand with only three fingers to compare against another picture of a hand with three fingers to see it is the same hand?
 
2014-07-09 09:18:56 PM  

BSABSVR: Giltric: BSABSVR: If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.

What if the kid has a mental breakdown and cant have normal relationships and this event turns him into an actual predator?

The girl's mother, police and the DA will use that as proof that he was a ticking time bomb of course.


HA! No doubt.
 
2014-07-09 09:19:50 PM  

asmodeus224: sounds like the sender is black sending picts to a white girl...just guessing...prove me wrong, virginia....prove me wrong!


Read upthread. Since you can't seem to do that, I'll give you the link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2686387/Police-want-photograp h -boy-17-state-arousal-giving-INJECTION-prove-sent-explicit-video-girlf riend-15-child-pornography-case.html

and another link upthread http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/police-have-a-warrant-to-see-te e nagers-erection-in-sexting-c

Take your racial bullshiat somewhere else.
 
2014-07-09 09:21:29 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Two questions for the Fark Lawyer Brigade:

1.  Isn't a search warrant only for things that currently exist?  Can it be used for things yet to be produced?  Can it be used to manufacture evidence?

2.  Can a court order that a foreign substance be injected into a person's body for things other than medicinal purposes?  Can it order surgery to remove a finger to take pictures of the hand with only three fingers to compare against another picture of a hand with three fingers to see it is the same hand?


I am not a lawyer, but it is not hard to see that courts and prosecutors will do whatever they want unless called on it by people with pockets deep enough to fight it.
 
2014-07-09 09:22:53 PM  

oh_please: asmodeus224: sounds like the sender is black sending picts to a white girl...just guessing...prove me wrong, virginia....prove me wrong!

Read upthread. Since you can't seem to do that, I'll give you the link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2686387/Police-want-photograp h -boy-17-state-arousal-giving-INJECTION-prove-sent-explicit-video-girlf riend-15-child-pornography-case.html

and another link upthread http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/police-have-a-warrant-to-see-te e nagers-erection-in-sexting-c

Take your racial bullshiat somewhere else.


I would show trey's aunt Stacy my erection.
 
2014-07-09 09:22:56 PM  

Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault


Want to know where that injection goes? No, you probably don't.

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-the rapy/

Any body want to lay odds on white girl/black guy?
 
2014-07-09 09:23:01 PM  

ko_kyi: Igor Jakovsky: Yeah, i was going to ask why only the guy was charged and not the girl if they were both minors?

The answer, while as obvious as the nose on your face, makes some people uncomfortable.  I've heard of cases where a 15 year old boy knocked up a 17 year old girl and got prosecuted for it.


I have no nose...lost it in a motorboat accident

But seriously the length the prosecutors are going to score on this case is gross.
 
2014-07-09 09:23:09 PM  
Well, cell phone data is private now. I suppose being a minor it would take his guardian aunt's permission, or a warrant of course. In fairness to the system, laws have a hard time keeping up with technology. Crap, I looked at centerfolds in the woods behind my house as a youth.Sexting is a new phenomena. Hopefully the courts will have some commonsense in developing laws to deal with horney adventurous teens.
 
2014-07-09 09:25:13 PM  
i817.photobucket.com

Maybe the kid thought he was Batman?
 
2014-07-09 09:25:23 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: told her that her client must either plead guilty or police would obtain another search warrant "for pictures of his erect penis," for comparison to the evidence from the teen's cell phone. Foster asked how that would be accomplished and was told that "we just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot and then take the pictures that we need."

Two questions for the Fark Lawyer Brigade:

1.  Isn't a search warrant only for things that currently exist?  Can it be used for things yet to be produced?  Can it be used to manufacture evidence?

2.  Can a court order that a foreign substance be injected into a person's body for things other than medicinal purposes?  Can it order surgery to remove a finger to take pictures of the hand with only three fingers to compare against another picture of a hand with three fingers to see it is the same hand?


Good questions. This whole ordeal is farked. Sounds like the very basic premise of entrapment honestly and I hope they try this angle as the defense.
 
2014-07-09 09:25:39 PM  

Lamberts Ho Man: Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault

Want to know where that injection goes? No, you probably don't.

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-th e rapy/

Any body want to lay odds on white girl/black guy?


Read upthread. He's a white guy. Quit being a racist asshole.
 
2014-07-09 09:26:23 PM  
www.hecklerspray.com
 
m00
2014-07-09 09:28:34 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: 1. Isn't a search warrant only for things that currently exist? Can it be used for things yet to be produced? Can it be used to manufacture evidence?

2. Can a court order that a foreign substance be injected into a person's body for things other than medicinal purposes? Can it order surgery to remove a finger to take pictures of the hand with only three fingers to compare against another picture of a hand with three fingers to see it is the same hand?


Sure, we do it with the death penalty.
 
2014-07-09 09:29:07 PM  
So let me get this straight: Someone pissing on the side of a highway, hundreds of miles from the nearest rest stop can be labeled a sex offender, yet police strapping down a 17 year old, forcing him to get a boner, and snapping pictures of it is considered a-ok?

Counter-sue the police for manufacture of child pornography. Bring the whole farkin' diseased, corrupt temple down on their heads. It'll be Biblical.
 
2014-07-09 09:30:28 PM  

oh_please: Lamberts Ho Man: Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault

Want to know where that injection goes? No, you probably don't.

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-th e rapy/

Any body want to lay odds on white girl/black guy?

Read upthread. He's a white guy. Quit being a racist asshole.


So if I say Obama should be impeached for whatever XYZ, and someone comes along and says I am only saying that because Obama is black, does that make them the racist?

If anything the farkers suggesting the male involved might be black are almost calling the mother the racist in this scenario.

Maybe you've watered down racist to mean everything but in actuality it makes it mean nothing.
 
2014-07-09 09:30:58 PM  

muddythinker: The county prosecutor, Ebert, has a terrible reputation.  Seriously, he's been nominated for Worst Prosecutor of the Year several times.  http://www.theagitator.com/2012/01/02/the-2011-worst-prosecutor-of-th e -year-award/


From your link

Jackson's 57-page memorandum opinion is scathing in its findings of prosecutorial misbehavior by Ebert and his assistant, Richard A. Conway. Conduct evidently included choreographing and coordinating witness testimony, withholding tapes of witness interviews from the defense, and knowingly allowing false testimony to be introduced at trial.

How the hell does this guy still have a job and isn't rotting in a prison cell??
 
2014-07-09 09:31:41 PM  
So are they taking pics of the girl's vagina to compare to the pics she sent the boy?
 
2014-07-09 09:32:25 PM  

FuzedBox: So let me get this straight: Someone pissing on the side of a highway, hundreds of miles from the nearest rest stop can be labeled a sex offender, yet police strapping down a 17 year old, forcing him to get a boner, and snapping pictures of it is considered a-ok?

Counter-sue the police for manufacture of child pornography. Bring the whole farkin' diseased, corrupt temple down on their heads. It'll be Biblical.


I am pretty sure most police and prosecutors have a "It's ok when we do it" attitude about many of the (too many) laws that we have. So yeah, I would not be surprised if they genuinely think your comparison is invalid.

It is sad really.
 
2014-07-09 09:34:02 PM  
Reading the government's press release that they haven't actually done what the defense side says they threatened to do, I'm willing to consider the possibility that the detective and prosecutor are lying to the defendant, as they may possibly lawfully do, threatening to do this ridiculously humiliating search warrant to try to persuade/borderline coerce a guilty plea.

The idea that that they need new photos of not just of his penis but of his erection to identify him in evidence is ridiculous and unprecedented AFAIK. There are no other distinguishing marks on other identifying information in the evidence? It's absurd.
 
2014-07-09 09:34:35 PM  
t2.gstatic.com

Picture of the scuzzbag State's Attorney.
 
2014-07-09 09:34:42 PM  
...any your Delta Tau Chi name is Pinto......
 
2014-07-09 09:35:04 PM  
Cops are pigs.
Film at eleventy.
 
2014-07-09 09:36:40 PM  
Who was injured here?
 
2014-07-09 09:37:32 PM  
"He said they took him to a room and took pictures of his genitalia," Bigley said. "I asked if they're allowed to do that, and [Trey] said, 'I tried to refuse,'" which he did, he didn't want to do it. They told him if he did not they would do it by force."

Isn't that rape, or at least sexual assault?

And then there is this.

Simms was allowed to leave the area to visit family, but will be back for another court date on July 15.

If I were him I would leave the state and not come back. If somebody who had already raped me told me the exact day they were going to rape me again I would leave and not come back. And wherever he is, his family needs to report this to the FBI and try to get them to investigate.
 
2014-07-09 09:39:06 PM  
Wouldn't this be covered by the 5th Amendment?
 
2014-07-09 09:39:46 PM  
I thought the headline was a joke.

No, Virginia. There is not a Satan clause.

You stupid bastards.
 
2014-07-09 09:39:55 PM  
What really gets me is that a cop said that they would use "special software" to determine if the penis is the kid's. Huh? What's the name of the program? Who manufactured it? How in the world can anyone tell if it actually works? Will the prosecution be required to prove that the software does what it's supposed to do? If so, how will it do so?
 
2014-07-09 09:40:10 PM  
The Police forcing a kid to get an erection and the taking pictures. Sounds like child abuse and manufacture and dissemination of child porn.
Arrest the cops!
 
2014-07-09 09:40:16 PM  

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: He's 17. He probably already has an erection.


Came here to say this...

Erm...

Let me rephrase that...

*shakes tiny fist*

/not really any better
 
2014-07-09 09:41:21 PM  

ferretman: Does it have a mole?


www.johnmonty.com

/bent a little to the left.
 
2014-07-09 09:41:30 PM  
The police and DA are bugnuts-farking insane about this. Just ridiculous.
 
2014-07-09 09:42:20 PM  

oh_please: Lamberts Ho Man: Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault

Want to know where that injection goes? No, you probably don't.

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-th e rapy/

Any body want to lay odds on white girl/black guy?

Read upthread. He's a white guy. Quit being a racist asshole.


What exactly makes him a racist asshole for assuming that? I bet you that the majority of the people in this thread were thinking the same thing because you know why? There is a very good track record of silly shiat like this turning out that exact way. So why does people assuming that offend you so much and make you start calling people racist? Project much?
 
2014-07-09 09:43:36 PM  
DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.
 
2014-07-09 09:44:02 PM  

ZAZ: Foster said the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged, and her mother filed a complaint about the boy's video, Foster said.

The boy should file a complaint against the girl.

Courts here ruled that asymmetric prosecution in prostitution cases is unconstitutional. The prostitute can have her charges dropped if police don't charge johns equally. That was based on state law.

On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a California law setting different ages of consent for boys and girls. Under federal constitutional law it's OK to selectively prosecute boys in sex cases.

But in this case the 15 year old committed a worse crime (assuming those were naked pictures). 15 is farther under the age of consent for porn than 17 is.


Considering this is the court system the girl won't be touched but the boy will be nailed for receiving it because vagina
 
2014-07-09 09:44:08 PM  

Fr._Peter_Fitznuggly: The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.




What if it was a really really sexy nurse?
 
2014-07-09 09:45:06 PM  

sillydragon: DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.


You don't have the iMushroomStamp app? Luddite.
 
2014-07-09 09:46:52 PM  

Fr._Peter_Fitznuggly: The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.


VA is a different kind of place, but in most states this entire case has lawsuit written all over it. The boy is being harassed.
 
2014-07-09 09:47:22 PM  

sillydragon: DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.


Virginia cops have always been special dicks.
www.styleweekly.com
 
2014-07-09 09:49:50 PM  

Werehamster: What really gets me is that a cop said that they would use "special software" to determine if the penis is the kid's. Huh? What's the name of the program? Who manufactured it? How in the world can anyone tell if it actually works? Will the prosecution be required to prove that the software does what it's supposed to do? If so, how will it do so?


There is software that IDs the unique curves of an ear. I guess it's an iteration of that. Map the veins and such...Pretty farked up in this case, given the circumstances.

Thank GOD cellphones with cameras were not around in my teens. No way I'd have the security clearance I have now.
 
2014-07-09 09:50:03 PM  

Giltric: So if I say Obama should be impeached for whatever XYZ, and someone comes along and says I am only saying that because Obama is black, does that make them the racist?

If anything the farkers suggesting the male involved might be black are almost calling the mother the racist in this scenario.

Maybe you've watered down racist to mean everything but in actuality it makes it mean nothing.


The reason I say this is because a lot of Farkers just want to immediately post that "I bet it's a BLACK MAN, see how it's unfair???", and try to turn it into a racial issue, when it's not, especially when they fail at reading comprehension...there have been at least two links posted before that show he's a white man, but they don't care about actually reading the farking thread, they just want to jump in and show everyone how cool they are.

Maybe you've watered down racist to mean everything but in actuality it makes it mean nothing.

You're right. Get it?
 
2014-07-09 09:50:04 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: There's an update on the article with the police having released a statement, view it here.

On first blush, if they're having to release a statement defending their actions, that likely means they're getting a lot of backlash over this, so that's good.

They do mention that the girl asked him to stop sending her dick pics, which, if true, and he kept doing it, does make him sort of a jerk, but it's certainly not worth felony charges.  If that was the actual situation the correct course of action would have been to have her parents tell his parents, and have them ground him and take away his phone.  This entire situation does not warrant police involvement.


But my snowflake would have never saw a penis until her wedding night at the age of 32 if it wasn't for that nasty 17 year old. I am outraged!
 
2014-07-09 09:53:25 PM  

sillydragon: DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.


and hardware:

static.squarespace.com
Really.

/No, not really.
 
2014-07-09 09:56:11 PM  

sillydragon: DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.


That was when my bullshiat alarm went off again after I'd hit its snooze button at the beginning of the story. It sounds like something an interrogator would make up to get a naive suspect to confess/plead guilty.
 
2014-07-09 10:00:12 PM  

Nem Wan: sillydragon: DNRTFA but is it the one that ends with the cop talking about using special software to compare penises? This is something our valiant fark LEOs never told us about... Cops having special dick comparison software.

That was when my bullshiat alarm went off again after I'd hit its snooze button at the beginning of the story. It sounds like something an interrogator would make up to get a naive suspect to confess/plead guilty.


Enhance...Enhance...OH MY GOD ENHANCE!
 
2014-07-09 10:03:24 PM  
Everyone involved in prosecuting that case should be charged as producers of child rape.

They want to stick a needle in his dick and force a priapism.

They want to compare a picture of his penis to all the other pictures of childrens penises that they have on their hard drives...

/Why doesn't anyone like or trust the police anymore
//Because you shot my dog and are now taking photos of my sons penis.
 
2014-07-09 10:05:05 PM  
Hai guyz!  I just came from the college rape false-accusation-or-not? flamewar; what's this thread about?
 
2014-07-09 10:13:56 PM  
So the punishment for taking pictures of your dick and sharing them is to have other people take pictures of your dick and share them? Does this mean everyone involved in taking pictures of said member will in turn have to have pictures of their respective pieces taken and shared? Assumedly this would continue ad nauseum until the entire planet has seen each others genitals?
 
2014-07-09 10:16:24 PM  

Nem Wan: Cops having special dick comparison software.


I heard that in this case they're using the police departments and prosecutors employee ID card photos as a reference.
 
2014-07-09 10:20:54 PM  
Want to see an underage boy's peener in a hospital?  Jim'll fix it!

www.redicecreations.com
 
2014-07-09 10:23:31 PM  

firemanbuck: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

Let he who hath never sent a dick pic, cast the first stone....


Before we do so am I casting it at the teen or the cops? Because I'm not throwing it at the teen for responding to BIE.
 
2014-07-09 10:28:47 PM  

farvour: FuzedBox: So let me get this straight: Someone pissing on the side of a highway, hundreds of miles from the nearest rest stop can be labeled a sex offender, yet police strapping down a 17 year old, forcing him to get a boner, and snapping pictures of it is considered a-ok?

Counter-sue the police for manufacture of child pornography. Bring the whole farkin' diseased, corrupt temple down on their heads. It'll be Biblical.

I am pretty sure most police and prosecutors have a "It's ok when we do it" attitude about many of the (too many) laws that we have. So yeah, I would not be surprised if they genuinely think your comparison is invalid.

It is sad really.


anguscarroll.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-09 10:36:39 PM  
Ivan the Tolerable:   life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

files.sharenator.com
 
2014-07-09 10:42:04 PM  
West Virginia used to be part of Virginia. They broke off and formed their own state because they were that ashamed of being associated with ignorant asshats like this. True story.

That kid should definitely get himself to somewhere socially progressive and never look back. His family should certainly make efforts to involve the ACLU & FBI.

Every single person involved on the side of the prosecution should be placed on a sex offender registry and put in general population at the nearest prison. "Well, the prosecutor said we had to get his dick hard and take pictures because reasons, so that's what we're going to do." fark's sake, what a bunch of psychopaths. It drives me insane that none of these child abusing thugs has the guts and depth of character to say they're not going to do this and that they won't allow anyone else to do it either.
 
2014-07-09 10:45:42 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Considering this is the court system the girl won't be touched but the boy will be nailed for receiving it because vagina


Now now, girls will be girls....
 
2014-07-09 10:48:35 PM  

Deacon Blue: doglover: So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.

Don't think that would be possible to implement, but I like the idea.

/off topic, you troll the fark outta the main page, don't you?  It's hilarious.


It's totally possible:


Please choose Guilty, Innocent, or Monte Cristo below:
_________________________
 
2014-07-09 10:49:30 PM  
What the fark did I just read?!

So a 17 year old boy makes a sexytime video and sends it to his (also juvenile) girlfriend and that = producing and possessing child pornography...but the police then want to forcibly give this same kid an erection and photograph his underage penis and that doesn't = child pornography? Or an unwanted sexual assault? Why are they even wasting their time with this? Or trying to go to such extreme lengths to make a case? This is utterly insane and if they wind up actually doing this to this kid, I hope he sues the pants off the department and alerts the FBI to the fact that they are in possession of child pornography on their department computers.
 
2014-07-09 10:52:50 PM  

doglover: So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.


Don't forget incarceration and the label of being a sex offender, ensuring this guy will never be able to have a real job or life of any kind.
 
2014-07-09 10:57:31 PM  
Are all the Fark law enforcement officers at work tonight?
 
2014-07-09 10:57:35 PM  
And what is the point of looking at his erect penis? Is his defense denying that it is him in the video? Is his face not identifiable in the video? The purpose of this is just to embarrass and punish him, and I hope to good that is the only purpose and not something far more disgusting.
 
2014-07-09 11:00:14 PM  

buzzcut73: If this prosecutor and police department want dick pics so bad that they're willing to take a kid to a hospital to get them, people should help them out by sending any pictures of erected penises they can find to the sheriff's email.


Brilliant idea! There are plenty of expiring email services. Off to find the department address! And a picture of a penis since I only possess these dainty little lady parts...
 
2014-07-09 11:04:57 PM  

positronica: The article said the 17yo in question is a football player.  I have a sneaking suspicion that the 17yo is a black kid, and the 15yo is a white girl.  That would explain why the police and the prosecutor have such a hard-on for him.


Bingo. I would bet money on it if I could.
 
2014-07-09 11:09:08 PM  
Bet that kid's really enjoying his Male Privilege.
 
2014-07-09 11:13:40 PM  

oh_please: Lamberts Ho Man: Kalashinator: No ITG comments yet? Ok.

If I'm in the 17-year old's shoes, does some Manassas City cop really want to be murdered while attempting to force a minor to have an erection and manufacture child pornography?  And does the prosecutor who pushed for it and the judge who signed the warrant really want to facilitate all that?

/end ITG
//I hate needles THAT much
///almost as much as sexual assault

Want to know where that injection goes? No, you probably don't.

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-th e rapy/

Any body want to lay odds on white girl/black guy?

Read upthread. He's a white guy. Quit being a racist asshole.


Meh ... I've spent a lot of time in Virginia. And looks like I'm hardly the only person to have that thought. Glad I was wrong - makes the situation minisculy less asinine.
 
2014-07-09 11:23:22 PM  
http://www.manassascity.org/index.aspx?NID=1085

On mobile so no linky (sorry) but they actually have an "officer directory" where you can send an email to the specific cop...any of the stories happen to mention the name of the investigating officers?
 
2014-07-09 11:30:05 PM  
So, why aren't they forcing HER to get an erection so they can take photos of her genitalia to prove that... wait a second....

On a serious note, something tells me a lot more people would be cracking out the torches and pitchforks if they were suggesting they should photograph a female's genitals for more in-depth comparison. But he has one of those evil penises so it must be all his fault!
 
2014-07-09 11:36:41 PM  
*peruses crystal ball*
I see somebody with good intentions going on vacation in the near future.
 
2014-07-09 11:38:57 PM  

kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.


Why does it matter whose penis it is?  The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics.  Case closed.  Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.
 
2014-07-09 11:40:49 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: *peruses crystal ball*
I see somebody with good intentions going on vacation in the near future.


Yeah. How dare we use the power of the internet for good, or to stop an injustice.

We should just laugh at this child's sexual assault and make money on click-through advertising from it.

/It's the moral, upstanding thing to do.
 
2014-07-09 11:44:47 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: *peruses crystal ball*
I see somebody with good intentions going on vacation in the near future.


I think hes a coastie.

They're always on vacation.
 
2014-07-09 11:44:48 PM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.

Why does it matter whose penis it is?  The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics.  Case closed.  Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.


The girl initiated the sexting. He sexted back. This "We told him to stop" is coming out now to make him look like the bad guy when all of this was mutual.
 
2014-07-10 12:06:27 AM  
So, let's see... Virginia allows its cops to abuse underaged suspects, ignore their due process, and manufacture evidence in their favor under the guise of a warranted search.

Yeah, who would have a problem with this?
 
2014-07-10 12:07:58 AM  

doglover: So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.


Apparently - wtf am I reading?  And why am I in total agreement with doglover?

It must be the apocalypse.

I'm probably a sex offender for what I did as a teenager.

But I'm not gonna rape your daughters.....or your sons.

I won't even send them dirty pictures

WTF?  The court wants to make his dick hard and take pictures of it?  This sounds like a very bad gay porn movie plot.
 
2014-07-10 12:11:07 AM  
For people who are new to the thread:

He's a white boy.

The girl's mother reported him.

The girl sent pics first.

The cops just like teenage dick, I guess.


Hopefully, this answers all your questions.
 
2014-07-10 12:11:43 AM  
And I also didn't post anyone's email addresses; just the links to their department pages. If they wanna ban me for it though, fine, whatever. I've been on this site for over a decade and if being disgusted by whatever the hell is going on in this case gets me booted, then I'll live with it. I won't like it, but eh, if that's the price to pay for having a strong opinion against state sanctioned child sexual assault, so be it...
 
2014-07-10 12:17:56 AM  
Va cops are pedos?  I had no idea.
 
2014-07-10 12:20:21 AM  
Who activated the MRA beacon for this thread?
 
2014-07-10 12:21:28 AM  

JerkStore: Ivan the Tolerable:   life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

[files.sharenator.com image 850x519]


lol
Where'd that come from?
 
2014-07-10 12:29:10 AM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: Why does it matter whose penis it is? The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics. Case closed. Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.


Whether the penis is his or not is the key to the case; if it's his dick, he's a producer and interstate distributor of of child pornography. Interstate since it used the phone network, which means they could threaten him with federal charges if he won't plead guilty to a state felony. Getting a felony conviction is crucial to make sure prospective employers will be aware of his conviction for the rest of his life, that he won't be allowed to visit countries like Canada, that he effectively won't be able to live in towns that have schools, that he'll have to notify his neighbors of his status, that he'll have to post warning signs at his residence during Halloweens, etc.

There also hasn't been any suggestion of evidence that his girlfriend asked him not to send a dick pic. But either way, that's incidental the main charge, and would only be important if they want to try him for different crimes, or if his girlfriend's family wants to go after his family's property in a civil suit.
 
2014-07-10 12:35:14 AM  
coxrare.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-10 12:37:48 AM  

oh_please: Giltric: So if I say Obama should be impeached for whatever XYZ, and someone comes along and says I am only saying that because Obama is black, does that make them the racist?

If anything the farkers suggesting the male involved might be black are almost calling the mother the racist in this scenario.

Maybe you've watered down racist to mean everything but in actuality it makes it mean nothing.

The reason I say this is because a lot of Farkers just want to immediately post that "I bet it's a BLACK MAN, see how it's unfair???", and try to turn it into a racial issue, when it's not, especially when they fail at reading comprehension...there have been at least two links posted before that show he's a white man, but they don't care about actually reading the farking thread, they just want to jump in and show everyone how cool they are.

Maybe you've watered down racist to mean everything but in actuality it makes it mean nothing.

You're right. Get it?


... Or maybe some of us have been to Mizzourah.

It is perfectly justified to assume racism. Heck, I'm still not convinced that the boy isn't black.
 
2014-07-10 12:39:11 AM  

gfid: doglover: So to "protect" children, we have to spend taxpayer time and money to sexually assault them in hospitals in order to send them to jail?

fark that. There should be the option for a jury to, with a unanimous vote, to send the prosecutor to jail for the "crime" they were trying to prosecute instead.

Apparently - wtf am I reading?  And why am I in total agreement with doglover?

It must be the apocalypse.

I'm probably a sex offender for what I did as a teenager.

But I'm not gonna rape your daughters.....or your sons.

I won't even send them dirty pictures

WTF?  The court wants to make his dick hard and take pictures of it?  This sounds like a very bad gay porn movie plot.


Modern pedophile laws are getting to be as silly as witchcraft and jim crow laws.

We're so far down the stupid hole police are actually trying rape kids to create child pornography to prosecute them with.

It's times like these when reactionary vitriol is a welcome balm to a man's ears. Pitchforks and torches all round. This will stop before that whole department and their prosecutors are all in jail where they belong, but we can at least save this one kid from being raped by emailing them, our local congressmen, the papers, and even the president about the outrage in Virginia.
 
2014-07-10 12:42:21 AM  
I had to re-read that headline a couple times, and I still thought it was a joke.

W. T. F.
 
2014-07-10 01:08:27 AM  

nyseattitude: I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.


Maybe the boy is dark skinned and the girl isn't?
 
2014-07-10 01:25:56 AM  

Yes this is dog: Who activated the MRA beacon for this thread?


Some people are just really against state sanctioned sexual assault on minors.
 
2014-07-10 02:12:57 AM  

Snausages75: Dear Manassas has an established history of being fascinated with such things. It was where John Wayne Bobbitt had his unfortunate accident. Three years ago, the town got a case of the pearl-clutching vapors because an "adult" store opened in Old Town. They subsequently changed their zoning laws so it could never happen again, which I think is considered spot zoning, which is illegal.

See here:

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/amanda-hess/2011/04/manassas-sex-shop-fight- c uts-across-class-lines-10502.html

Lastly but most disturbing, Bob Marshall is the state delegate for Manassas. Take a stroll through his Wikipedia page to get an idea of what kind of specimen he is.


When I read his wiki, each time I read the word 'election', I heard 'erection.'

Oh and this case is insane.
 
2014-07-10 02:28:58 AM  

Yes this is dog: Who activated the MRA beacon for this thread?


Motorcycle Racing Association?  Magnetic Resonance Angiography?

The only thing that could make this story weirder is a medical exam performed while the patient was on a motorcycle.
 
2014-07-10 02:30:34 AM  

gfid: Yes this is dog: Who activated the MRA beacon for this thread?

Motorcycle Racing Association?  Magnetic Resonance Angiography?

The only thing that could make this story weirder is a medical exam performed while the patient was on a motorcycle.


With a medically induced erection ordered by a court of law.

Does he at least get a happy ending?
 
2014-07-10 02:39:05 AM  

Langdon_777: Snausages75: Dear Manassas has an established history of being fascinated with such things. It was where John Wayne Bobbitt had his unfortunate accident. Three years ago, the town got a case of the pearl-clutching vapors because an "adult" store opened in Old Town. They subsequently changed their zoning laws so it could never happen again, which I think is considered spot zoning, which is illegal.

See here:

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/amanda-hess/2011/04/manassas-sex-shop-fight- c uts-across-class-lines-10502.html

Lastly but most disturbing, Bob Marshall is the state delegate for Manassas. Take a stroll through his Wikipedia page to get an idea of what kind of specimen he is.

When I read his wiki, each time I read the word 'election', I heard 'erection.'

Oh and this case is insane.


That's just because he lives in Man'sass.
 
2014-07-10 02:40:53 AM  

lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?


Everyone involved in this case should add themselves to the list.

Except the defendent, and defense lawyer. Wasn't thier idea.
 
2014-07-10 02:45:12 AM  
In a normal world, here's how this situation would be handled:

Guy's mother:  "OMG did you send naked pictures to that girl?"

Guy:  "Ummmmm....maybe"

Guy's mother:  "You're grounded for a month and I'm taking your phone while  you're grounded."

I'm pretty sure that's what would have happened if I did that when I was a teen except I probably would have been grounded for 3 months - and have to mow and rake the lawn without pay for 3 months too, but my parents were kind of strict.
 
2014-07-10 02:46:08 AM  
They could at least bring in a fluffer. And after they are done taking his pictures, are they going to send in somebody to help him take care of that boner? If they are using boner juice that thing is going to be erect for a while. I think they have a civic responsibility to help him through it once their needs are satisfied.
 
2014-07-10 03:03:48 AM  

seapig: What the fark did I just read?!

So a 17 year old boy makes a sexytime video and sends it to his (also juvenile) girlfriend and that = producing and possessing child pornography...but the police then want to forcibly give this same kid an erection and photograph his underage penis and that doesn't = child pornography? Or an unwanted sexual assault? Why are they even wasting their time with this? Or trying to go to such extreme lengths to make a case? This is utterly insane and if they wind up actually doing this to this kid, I hope he sues the pants off the department and alerts the FBI to the fact that they are in possession of child pornography on their department computers.


It's not a crime when it's AUTHORITY!!!!!
 
2014-07-10 03:14:08 AM  
Sounds like the Mannasas Police take a wide stance when it comes to child porn.
 
Ral
2014-07-10 03:45:23 AM  
The appropriate way for this to have been handled would be for the girl's father to contact the boy's father, and the boy's father should whip his son's ass and take his phone away.
 
Ral
2014-07-10 03:46:51 AM  
For that matter, why does it matter if the picture is of the kid's dick or not?  If he sent her dick pics, that should be easy to prove.  It doesn't matter whose dick it is.
 
2014-07-10 04:03:03 AM  

cyberspacedout: So, let's see... Virginia allows its cops to abuse underaged suspects, ignore their due process, and manufacture evidence in their favor under the guise of a warranted search.

Yeah, who would have a problem with this?


Oh, and I forgot, also that Miranda rights thing and that pesky 5th amendment. You have a right to remain flaccid.
 
2014-07-10 04:03:32 AM  

Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?


because shes daddys little angle and wouldn't ever do anything like that!!
 
2014-07-10 04:21:45 AM  
I hope the NAACP catches wind of this and sues the department into the ground.
 
2014-07-10 04:26:39 AM  

asmodeus224: sounds like the sender is black sending picts to a white girl...just guessing...prove me wrong, virginia....prove me wrong!


You're wrong
 
2014-07-10 04:37:23 AM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.

Why does it matter whose penis it is?  The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics.  Case closed.  Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.


According to more than one article it was the girl's mother who told the boy to stop sending dick pics.
 
2014-07-10 06:29:12 AM  
"He said they took him to a room and took pictures of his genitalia," Bigley said. "I asked if they're allowed to do that, and [Trey] said, 'I tried to refuse,'" which he did, he didn't want to do it. They told him if he did not they would do it by force."

I think I've seen that one...three burly bear cops manhandle and force a cute little twink to the ground, lustfully ripping his pants off, then one yanks his underwear down with his teeth while the other is holding him down by his thighs. The twink writhes and moans but one grabs his cock and barks "Aha! Here's what we came for. Get a picture Lou!"

(Of course, in that porn he's really an 18 yo model that just looks 17)
 
2014-07-10 06:34:48 AM  

lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?

Came here to say this.
 
2014-07-10 06:49:00 AM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: kronicfeld: PhiloeBedoe: If he is sending unsolicited dick pics to anyone, no matter the age of the person he sends them to, he certainly should be in trouble.  He shouldn't be made erect and photographed but there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them...

They've already seized the kids' electronic devices. They are really trying to prove it is HIS penis, not just A penis.

Why does it matter whose penis it is?  The girl said "Don't send me dick pics"; he sent dick pics.  Case closed.  Whose dick they were pictures of is totally irrelevant, only whether they were sent from his phone or not.


Because if it's a 6570 day old penis it's just harassment and not child pornography, but if it's a 6569 day old penis, it's felony child pornography.
 
2014-07-10 06:52:12 AM  

Via Infinito: labman: So are they going to have a book of mugshots, only it's picture of underage penises?

[img.fark.net image 429x535]


cdn.obsidianportal.com
 
2014-07-10 06:54:23 AM  
Give it enough publicity and this fark of a DA will back off. This is the stuff you can boast about to your colleagues, not the country.
 
2014-07-10 06:54:55 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.

More so the prosecutor who is trying to make a case against him in the first place.  There needs to be an exception in child pornography laws for voluntarily sent 'selfies' amongst minors.


Well the girl wasn't charged for doing the same thing, so I guess the exception involves being a girl.
 
2014-07-10 06:56:05 AM  

PhiloeBedoe: there should be other ways of proving whether or not he sent them


They're not prosecuting him for providing porn to a minor (which isn't a felony, generally speaking). They're prosecuting him for taking pictures of himself and for having pictures he took of himself.

When are we going to stop putting mirrors in bedrooms and bathrooms? Won't someone think of (new ways to imprison) the children?
 
2014-07-10 06:57:52 AM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: Why does it matter whose penis it is?


That's not the case they brought. They're charging him with having pictures of his penis. There are no charges related to sending the images to anyone of any age.
 
2014-07-10 07:01:49 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Give it enough publicity and this fark of a DA will back off. This is the stuff you can boast about to your colleagues, not the country.


Can we mention the DA by name?

Because I think repeating that enough with "wants to look at a 17yr olds penis" to the point it is the first thing that comes up in google woudl help.
 
2014-07-10 07:37:21 AM  

liam76: Coming on a Bicycle: Give it enough publicity and this fark of a DA will back off. This is the stuff you can boast about to your colleagues, not the country.

Can we mention the DA by name?

Because I think repeating that enough with "wants to look at a 17yr olds penis" to the point it is the first thing that comes up in google woudl help.


You mean that Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Claiborne Richardson "wants to look at a 17 year old's penis"?  Or the fact that he works under Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B. Ebert?
 
2014-07-10 08:05:50 AM  

lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?


It's OK when they do it.

Move along citizen. Nothing to see here.
 
2014-07-10 08:12:27 AM  

rnatalie: Please, please, can we call it a tallywacker?


Please this is a serious matter!

i.ytimg.com


one of the funniest movie moments ever....  Of course I was the right age for it too.
 
2014-07-10 08:14:02 AM  

Delay: What the fark is wrong with police today? Police get enormous pensions that we pay for, they bust peaceful people with a gram of marijuana and those hippies go to jail for life in prison, the police extort normal people and plant drugs on them when those normal people have done nothing wrong, then, when it all quiets down, the police shoot their dogs. Who are the folks that profit from this?


Pray they do not alter the social contract any further.
 
2014-07-10 08:15:07 AM  

Fr._Peter_Fitznuggly: The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.


And the boys parents should mention this to the doctor before he starts.

"You know, if this turns out not to be medically necessary we WILL be reporting it to the medical board for review"
 
2014-07-10 08:27:54 AM  
They can always ask the TSA for advice.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-10 08:31:03 AM  

freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.


You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.
 
2014-07-10 08:31:26 AM  

SpectroBoy: Fr._Peter_Fitznuggly: The 17-year old should gear up to sue any medical practitioner unethical enough to deliver medically unnecessary treatment.

And the boys parents should mention this to the doctor before he starts.

"You know, if this turns out not to be medically necessary we WILL be reporting it to the medical board for review"


The police woudl likely arrest the doctor/nurse for nto doing it.

An emergency-room nurse at the West Palm Beach Veterans Administration Medical Center said she was just following hospital policy when she told a Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy she couldn't draw blood from a suspected drunken driver.

Minutes later, Marjorie Lachaud-DePalis was slapped in handcuffs, led to a patrol car and charged with obstructing justice.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/nurse-arrested-for-n o t-drawing-blood-from-drunk-dr/nYjRn/
 
2014-07-10 08:48:09 AM  

Babwa Wawa: freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.

You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.


I was a party animal, not an easy piece of ass. There's a difference, ya know? I actually feel sorry for the girls to whom I refer, the ones who send out sexy pics, and use sex to get attention.  They don't realize that being overtly sexual + internet means that their actions will follow them forever.  You have to wonder how much attention their parents pay to them. They may have been around when I was a teen, but we didn't have the internet and cellphones for them to advertise on.  How old are you, out of curiousity?  You sound like a young person who hasn't raised a child.
 
2014-07-10 08:59:40 AM  

Babwa Wawa: freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.

You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.


And women were much less judgmental then.
 
2014-07-10 09:02:04 AM  

seapig: buzzcut73: If this prosecutor and police department want dick pics so bad that they're willing to take a kid to a hospital to get them, people should help them out by sending any pictures of erected penises they can find to the sheriff's email.

Brilliant idea! There are plenty of expiring email services. Off to find the department address! And a picture of a penis since I only possess these dainty little lady parts...


You might want to see if you can find such a picture on the internets.  Sure, its a long shot, but you may get lucky.
 
2014-07-10 09:03:14 AM  
Jesus Christ, I thought this was going to be a clever pun - like they were building a treehouse for a terminally-ill teen or something. This is horrific!


"The teen is facing two felony charges, for possession of child pornography and manufacturing child pornography"

So they want to (by their definition) manufacture child pornography themeselves in order to prove it? Madness!


"the case began when the teen's 15-year-old girlfriend sent photos of herself to the 17-year-old, who in turn sent her the video in question. The girl has not been charged"

Of course not.
 
2014-07-10 09:19:36 AM  

SpectroBoy: lindalouwho: Let me get this straight - the police and prosecutor want to commit child abuse and manufacture child porn?

Wtf?

It's OK when they do it.

Move along citizen. Nothing to see here.


No, it's not. And there has already been quite the backlash - I'm betting they will not proceed this way.

I'm hoping my optimism will somewhat temper your cynicism ;-)
 
2014-07-10 09:21:45 AM  

nyseattitude: Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?

I don't think that is the case.
The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

I don't know what the new charges are.

I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.


Because the girl's Dad is a cop.
 
2014-07-10 09:22:56 AM  

seapig: buzzcut73: If this prosecutor and police department want dick pics so bad that they're willing to take a kid to a hospital to get them, people should help them out by sending any pictures of erected penises they can find to the sheriff's email.

Brilliant idea! There are plenty of expiring email services. Off to find the department address! And a picture of a penis since I only possess these dainty little lady parts...


Gentlemen: BEGIN THE COCKALANCHE!
 
2014-07-10 09:34:42 AM  

Earguy: nyseattitude: Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?

I don't think that is the case.
The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

I don't know what the new charges are.

I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.

Because the girl's Dad is a cop.


Ahh good old malicious prosecution......
 
2014-07-10 09:40:00 AM  

Langdon_777: liam76: Coming on a Bicycle: Give it enough publicity and this fark of a DA will back off. This is the stuff you can boast about to your colleagues, not the country.

Can we mention the DA by name?

Because I think repeating that enough with "wants to look at a 17yr olds penis" to the point it is the first thing that comes up in google woudl help.

You mean that Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Claiborne Richardson "wants to look at a 17 year old's penis"?  Or the fact that he works under Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B. Ebert?


What do you mean that Assistant Commonwealth Attorney Claiborne Richardson, who works under Prince William County Commonwealth's Attorney Paul B Ebert, wants to look at a 17 year old's naked erect penis?
 
2014-07-10 09:41:23 AM  

lindalouwho: No, it's not. And there has already been quite the backlash - I'm betting they will not proceed this way.

I'm hoping my optimism will somewhat temper your cynicism ;-)


Perhaps my cynicism is justified by the very fact that they WANT to do this. Even if they fail it certainly paints a picture about law enforcement attitudes towards "civilians".
 
2014-07-10 09:42:06 AM  

Giltric: Earguy: nyseattitude: Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?

I don't think that is the case.
The case was dismissed, but police immediately obtained new charges and also a search warrant for his home. Police also arrested the teen and took him to juvenile jail, where Foster said they took photos of the teen's genitals against his will.

I don't know what the new charges are.

I'd like to know why the police so hell bent on ruining this kids life.

Because the girl's Dad is a cop.

Ahh good old malicious prosecution......


Just another tool for the thugs in blue.
 
2014-07-10 09:45:27 AM  
This reminds me of the scene in Porky's when Ms. Balbricker got her hands on a boy's manhood and wanted a police line-up to identfy him.  Maybe Coach Brakett's  recomendation that they call the police, and have 'em send over one of their sketch artists so Miss Balbricker can give a description. He then suggests that the put up "Wanted" posters all over school saying, "Have you seen this prick? Report immediately to Beulah Balbricker. Do not attempt to apprehend this prick, as it is armed and dangerous. It was last seen hanging out in the girls' locker room at Angel Beach High School."
 
2014-07-10 09:45:47 AM  

liam76: The police woudl likely arrest the doctor/nurse for nto doing it.

An emergency-room nurse at the West Palm Beach Veterans Administration Medical Center said she was just following hospital policy when she told a Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy she couldn't draw blood from a suspected drunken driver.

Minutes later, Marjorie Lachaud-DePalis was slapped in handcuffs, led to a patrol car and charged with obstructing justice.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/nurse-arrested-for-n o t-drawing-blood-from-drunk-dr/nYjRn/


Let's see.....   the doctor has the choice of violating a minor's rights and performing an unnecessary medical procedure this risking his license OR standing pu to the cops and spending a few hours in jail.

I guess a doctor could decide either way. But if it was MY kid the next step would be to lawyer up, bring it too the attention of the medical board, sue the hospital, and sue the doc for malpractice. I can guarantee you that my actions would be more unpleasant than spending a few hours in the local jail.
 
2014-07-10 10:31:26 AM  

SpectroBoy: liam76: The police woudl likely arrest the doctor/nurse for nto doing it.

An emergency-room nurse at the West Palm Beach Veterans Administration Medical Center said she was just following hospital policy when she told a Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy she couldn't draw blood from a suspected drunken driver.

Minutes later, Marjorie Lachaud-DePalis was slapped in handcuffs, led to a patrol car and charged with obstructing justice.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/nurse-arrested-for-n o t-drawing-blood-from-drunk-dr/nYjRn/

Let's see.....   the doctor has the choice of violating a minor's rights and performing an unnecessary medical procedure this risking his license OR standing pu to the cops and spending a few hours in jail.

I guess a doctor could decide either way. But if it was MY kid the next step would be to lawyer up, bring it too the attention of the medical board, sue the hospital, and sue the doc for malpractice. I can guarantee you that my actions would be more unpleasant than spending a few hours in the local jail.


I agree, just pointing out how bananas law enforcement is.
 
2014-07-10 10:38:47 AM  

freetomato: Babwa Wawa: freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.

You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.

I was a party animal, not an easy piece of ass. There's a difference, ya know? I actually feel sorry for the girls to whom I refer, the ones who send out sexy pics, and use sex to get attention.  They don't realize that being overtly sexual + internet means that their actions will follow them forever.  You have to wonder how much attention their parents pay to them. They may have been around when I was a teen, but we didn't have the internet and cellphones for them to advertise on.  How old are you, out of curiousity?  You sound like a young person who hasn't raised a child.


I'm 42. Two kids. Teens are no more promiscuous now than they were when I was a teen.

As evidenced by both surveys and dropping teen pregnancy rates.
 
2014-07-10 11:03:07 AM  
The kid should dye it blue 1st.
 
2014-07-10 11:18:52 AM  

SpectroBoy: lindalouwho: No, it's not. And there has already been quite the backlash - I'm betting they will not proceed this way.

I'm hoping my optimism will somewhat temper your cynicism ;-)

Perhaps my cynicism is justified by the very fact that they WANT to do this. Even if they fail it certainly paints a picture about law enforcement attitudes towards "civilians".


TBO I'm only optimistic about this one situation.

I haven't confirmed, but now it's being said that the girls dad is a cop *rolls eyes* that would explain a lot.

I have no love for the men in blue. I've heard/seen/experienced enough that it would have to be a really dire situation for me to ever call them, hoping that it would actually be help they would render.
 
2014-07-10 11:26:09 AM  
These days, the only way you could possibly get away with sexting is telegram...
 
2014-07-10 11:53:18 AM  

BSABSVR: If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.


What kind of 17 year old boy needs medicine to get a boner?
 
2014-07-10 12:21:39 PM  

FriarED1: BSABSVR: If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.

What kind of 17 year old boy needs medicine to get a boner?


A 17 year old boy being surrounded by 5 cops, demanding he get it up, or he goes to jail forever as a pedophile rapist.

And if he doesn't follow orders to get hard for a bunch of gay cops, they're going to stab him in the dick.
 
2014-07-10 12:27:35 PM  

Paris1127: These days, the only way you could possibly get away with sexting is telegram...


*knock *knock

"Candysexogram"

/altered but not obscure
 
2014-07-10 12:42:20 PM  
If you can't be a good example, at least be a cautionary tale.

Every parent should print this article and tape it to the refrigerator as soon as their son turns 12.

"I know you're special, different, and don't realize you're stupid. Seriously though, don't sext no matter what."

"You're right. It's not fair that you get punished but the girl doesn't. Remember that talk about life not being fair?"
 
2014-07-10 12:50:13 PM  

Pangea: "You're right. It's not fair that you get punished but the girl doesn't. Remember that talk about life not being fair?"



We couldn't possibly punish the girl.  That might be traumatic to her.

A man is obviously capable of walking it off without trauma. Quit being a girl about it.
 
2014-07-10 12:54:47 PM  

Babwa Wawa: freetomato: Babwa Wawa: freetomato: I agree that the girl is just as liable here. I was fairly wild as a teen, but having a handsome young son, I can't believe how psycho slutty teen girls can be these days.

You were "wild", but "teen girls these days" are "slutty".

Got it.  Tell me about how marijuana was less potent and music less sex-filled when you were growing up.

I was a party animal, not an easy piece of ass. There's a difference, ya know? I actually feel sorry for the girls to whom I refer, the ones who send out sexy pics, and use sex to get attention.  They don't realize that being overtly sexual + internet means that their actions will follow them forever.  You have to wonder how much attention their parents pay to them. They may have been around when I was a teen, but we didn't have the internet and cellphones for them to advertise on.  How old are you, out of curiousity?  You sound like a young person who hasn't raised a child.

I'm 42. Two kids. Teens are no more promiscuous now than they were when I was a teen.
As evidenced by both surveys and dropping teen pregnancy rates.


Not a fight I'd care to step into, but a few thoughts.
Back in the day, for the most part, the only "documentation" of teens being   irresponsible   teens was that poor Catholic girl who was sent out of state for an extended stay with relatives who came back looking a little different. Additionally, the magical power of the typical boomer's older siblings/cousins/etc. to pound the living snot out of those who decided to, uh, "kiss" and tell kept the rumors and damage to reputations limited.

Many of the counterbalances we had then have been wiped away by technology and social changes. Bullies have the ability to reach a far greater audience now. As freetomato pointed out, we have always had AWs (and people going through an AW stage) among us, but they were able to put the past behind them as they grew up. Since the internet never forgets, this isn't true any more.

Additionally, the inexplicable change in our attitude and policies from reforming, giving second chances, and judges using judgment to permanent punishment, intrusive parole, zero tolerance, draconian punishments, and mandatory sentences means that far fewer people are able to pay their debt to society and move on. It's injustice writ large that we have as many citizens imprisoned as we have military personnel, including the Guard and Reserves.
 
2014-07-10 01:13:55 PM  

fluffy2097: FriarED1: BSABSVR: If there's a way to permanently kill the sex drive of a 17 year old boy, a national conversation as to whether a bunch of police should look at his medically induced boner is probably it.

What kind of 17 year old boy needs medicine to get a boner?

A 17 year old boy being surrounded by 5 cops, demanding he get it up, or he goes to jail forever as a pedophile rapist.

And if he doesn't follow orders to get hard for a bunch of gay cops, they're going to stab him in the dick.


You left out "Taze him, restrain him to the point where they accidentally break his arm, put all their weight on his neck via a knee to the point of almost breraking it too and" between to and stab.
 
2014-07-10 01:23:32 PM  
W-E-N-D-Y
 
2014-07-10 01:29:07 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: On the case...

[images.huffingtonpost.com image 298x257]


came for Beaulah B.....leaving satisfied
 
2014-07-10 01:43:58 PM  

Kevin72: This is incredibly disgusting. One hopes that there is a hell for the police doing this.


"That's some very farked up police work there, Lou!"
 
2014-07-10 02:24:36 PM  
I guess somebody in Virginia (how appropriate, remove the last two letters) must be afflicted with the
world's biggest case of p-nis envy (instead of the world's biggest p-nis).
 
2014-07-10 03:24:16 PM  
 
2014-07-10 04:22:41 PM  

freetomato: And they've backed off....


I'm surprised they didn't charge the aunt with obstruction of justice, although sending the kid out of state was a smart move. The defense could have forced an extradition hearing if those evil dirtbags tried to force him to return so they could execute their warrant.

Still, that a judge even signed that warrant stands as a symbol of how unfaithful the government has been to its people.
 
2014-07-10 04:26:45 PM  
Manassas City Manager Patrick Pate acknowledged Thursday that the department and the city had been fielding irate calls from across the country and internationally after the story broke. He said the city was being portrayed unfairly, given the fact that the photos were never actually taken.

The only way to portray your city unfairly, Patrick Pate, would be to offer a positive comment regarding to it! You and the rest of the city employees are the lowest of the low!
 
2014-07-10 05:30:09 PM  

freetomato: And they've backed off....


Bullshiat. They haven't dropped all charges.

They are just lying, as cops do, to get a conviction at any cost, no matter how many innocents suffer.
 
2014-07-10 05:31:13 PM  

Feepit: freetomato: And they've backed off....

I'm surprised they didn't charge the aunt with obstruction of justice, although sending the kid out of state was a smart move. The defense could have forced an extradition hearing if those evil dirtbags tried to force him to return so they could execute their warrant.

Still, that a judge even signed that warrant stands as a symbol of how unfaithful the government has been to its people.


They probably didn't want to bring non pedophiles into the situation. After all, if a non pedophile saw what they were doing, they might have a problem with it.
 
2014-07-10 05:47:00 PM  

mr smart the great: Ivan the Tolerable: What I find even more troubling here is that teen girl first sexts teen boyfriend, and no charges for her. But when teen boyfriend sexts back, prosecution as an 'adult' for creating 'child porn' by taking a pic of his own dick, with prison terms and life as a sexual predator for 'exploiting' his 'child' self by his 'adult' self.

/so why isn't the girl in prison too?

because shes daddys little angle and wouldn't ever do anything like that!!


Is she acute?
 
2014-07-11 01:16:04 AM  
I, for one, am disappointed in the utter lack of Farkettes requesting WIE.

Phrased correctly, this is the perfect opportunity to ask without seeming slutty.

/make your own slashie
 
2014-07-11 07:26:47 AM  

Earguy: Because the girl's Dad is a cop.


In the interest of fairness I would like to withdraw this comment.  I read that on another web site, but I did some Googling and found no news reports that supported the notion.  Apparently the girl and her family are not identified publicly.  I'm not saying he's not a cop, but I'm not saying he is.
 
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