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2014-07-09 02:02:47 PM  
Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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2014-07-09 02:52:41 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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I'm sure the actual raping going on outweighs a few media-hyped false reports.
 
2014-07-09 03:07:06 PM  
Haha, had to look up byzantine; thought it was a new drug.
 
2014-07-09 03:07:16 PM  
troll headline is trolly

mra Boobieser is mra

nothing to see here
 
2014-07-09 03:08:14 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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Congratulations on two items:

1)  Demonstrating the fallacy of misleading vividness in a nearly perfect way.

2)  Justifying your favorite tag of "Sexist Prick" for at least the third time in the last week.

I commend you.  March on!
 
2014-07-09 03:09:49 PM  
Just in any 'em is great.
 
2014-07-09 03:11:35 PM  
Sexual 'assault' laws need a major revamping. I know a guy that spent 5 years in prison because he broke up with a girl and her Daddykins filed charges even though he knew they'd been farking under his roof for 2 years and approved - until the break up.

BONUS: They were the same age, but under 18.

/ruined the poor guy's life
//he's now officially a sexual predator
 
2014-07-09 03:12:11 PM  
Khellendros: Justifying your favorite tag of "Sexist Prick"

what's wrong with being sexy?
 
2014-07-09 03:13:48 PM  
Next up, outsourcing rape. It's the Indian thing to do.
 
2014-07-09 03:15:04 PM  
I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?

I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?

Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?
 
2014-07-09 03:15:37 PM  
Really $150k a year salary is called profiteering???
 
2014-07-09 03:16:06 PM  
One thread before a false equivalency shiathead goes off on false accusations.

I think anyone complaining about false accusations is making false accusations of false accusations and should go to jail until they can prove otherwise.
 
2014-07-09 03:16:26 PM  

gopher321: Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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I'm sure the actual raping going on outweighs a few media-hyped false reports.


I lost a semester of college because of a false rape accusation, actually. Not the end of the world, but still. There's also the whole "getting locked up and having no real idea why" part, it was a very scary five days.
 
2014-07-09 03:17:22 PM  

monoski: Really $150k a year salary is called profiteering???


Well, that was one way to out yourself as part of the 1%. Nice. job.
 
2014-07-09 03:17:39 PM  

ultraholland: Khellendros: Justifying your favorite tag of "Sexist Prick"

what's wrong with being sexy?


Makes men rape you?
 
2014-07-09 03:18:37 PM  
To be fair, if these regulations were actually 'Byzantine', they would involve gouging someone's eyes out, or cutting off their nose/tongue, and being unbelievably arrogant and superior.  Oh, and being very fickle and combative about your particular version of Christianity.
 
2014-07-09 03:18:44 PM  

JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?

I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?

Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?


What's going on is that women, on campuses and off, get raped now and got raped in the past at a much higher rate than people think.
 
2014-07-09 03:18:45 PM  

mdeesnuts: Sexual 'assault' laws need a major revamping. I know a guy that spent 5 years in prison because he broke up with a girl and her Daddykins filed charges even though he knew they'd been farking under his roof for 2 years and approved - until the break up.

BONUS: They were the same age, but under 18.

/ruined the poor guy's life
//he's now officially a sexual predator


I've heard of similar cases. I have a couple questions:

1. What state was this in?
2. Did the defense bring up the fact that the dad had approved of the sexual relationship until the breakup?
3. Was there a complainant? (In most jurisdictions I know about, a complainant--aka victim--is required in order to prrosecute cases where the alleged assailant is older than 21 and the victim is under the age of consent.)
4. The legal system sometimes sucks. But aren't there ways to get off the sex offender list?
 
jvl
2014-07-09 03:18:56 PM  

JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?


The problem is the Administration decided it would be swell to write all-new regulations as to what constitutes rape and force the new rules on colleges.

If the current definition of rape is insufficient, the Admin should write some new farking laws and get them passed. A partial fix through regulation is just all kinds of stupid.
 
2014-07-09 03:19:02 PM  

gopher321: Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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I'm sure the actual raping going on outweighs a few media-hyped false reports.


It's still a serious, although separate problem.  The entire subject is serious, and has consequences.  False accusations should be dealt with harshly.

On to the main point:  Ladies: do not go to a college administrator if you are raped.  Go to the police.
 
2014-07-09 03:19:17 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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Do you do this in every farking thread about women?
 
2014-07-09 03:20:38 PM  

thaduke: To be fair, if these regulations were actually 'Byzantine', they would involve gouging someone's eyes out, or cutting off their nose/tongue, and being unbelievably arrogant and superior.  Oh, and being very fickle and combative about your particular version of Christianity.

Feminism.

Change one word and that is a fitting description for most liberal arts colleges these days.
 
2014-07-09 03:22:27 PM  
"evade", Subby?

Judging from the article, more like "comply with".
 
2014-07-09 03:23:00 PM  

JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?

I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?

Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?


I don't think it's happening more, it's just finally being treated as unacceptable behavior and a brighter light is being put on it.

"Kids get drunk, kids have sex, better deal with consequences, ladies" is an antiquated way of looking at it.  Today, it's "whatever you did to get there, consent was never given, better deal with the consequences, gentlemen".
 
2014-07-09 03:24:00 PM  

JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?

I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?

Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?


Seriously, I wonder this too. Are more parents failing at raising their boys to be real men these days? It was not an epidemic back when I went to college and was in the military. It happened but it was much more rare.
 
Ant
2014-07-09 03:25:11 PM  

JackieRabbit: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates?


* We are using a definition of rape other than the one used by Republican legislators
* Women are less afraid of reporting rape
 
2014-07-09 03:25:36 PM  

mdeesnuts: Sexual 'assault' laws need a major revamping. I know a guy that spent 5 years in prison because he broke up with a girl and her Daddykins filed charges even though he knew they'd been farking under his roof for 2 years and approved - until the break up.

BONUS: They were the same age, but under 18.

/ruined the poor guy's life
//he's now officially a sexual predator


Yes it does... Some of the things you can end up getting put on the list for are ridiculous. Not only that, but a lot of the lists don't have details, so you can't even make an informed judgement.

As for the statutory rape thing, the states that have clauses that don't make it SR if the guy is within 3 years of the girl's age and they're both over 14 or 15(Don't remember these exact details, but you get the gist of it) have a much more sane setup. It also leads to a ridiculous stigma. People call a guy a "pedophile" if the girl is under 18, but that's where they stop thinking. She could be 17 years, 365.24 days old, and since she's not 18, it's "sick" behavior, but if they girl is 18 years and one second, it's suddenly "OK"... I mean, it's not like the "Sexually mature" fairy arrives on the eve of your 18th birthday.

So yeah, I agree that there are plenty of cases where people who don't belong on the registries get there...
 
2014-07-09 03:25:55 PM  

gopher321: Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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I'm sure the actual raping going on outweighs a few media-hyped false reports.


I don't believe that's true.
 
2014-07-09 03:26:21 PM  
I just skimmed the article, but I didn't see anything associated with Byzantium. Was Subby trying to say Draconian?
 
2014-07-09 03:29:23 PM  

Crewmannumber6: I just skimmed the article, but I didn't see anything associated with Byzantium. Was Subby trying to say Draconian?


What does Harry Potter have to do with rape?
 
2014-07-09 03:29:26 PM  

Ant: * We are using a definition of rape other than the one used by Republican legislators


www.thelookingspoon.com
And a few others.
 
Ant
2014-07-09 03:29:45 PM  

KawaiiNot: JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?

I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?

Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?

Seriously, I wonder this too. Are more parents failing at raising their boys to be real men these days? It was not an epidemic back when I went to college and was in the military. It happened but it was much more rare.


It was not more rare, they just got away with it back then.
 
2014-07-09 03:31:25 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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Ooooh!! I know! Women have falsely accused men of assault and rape before, so that means that I really didn't watch my mother get raped and beaten to death by her boyfriend when I was 5 because 1 false accusations erases all of the ACTUAL attacks.

Did I move on to the bonus round?
 
Ant
2014-07-09 03:31:39 PM  

fireclown: Ant: * We are using a definition of rape other than the one used by Republican legislators

[www.thelookingspoon.com image 425x499]
And a few others.


I was going to include her in there too. fark you, Whoopie. Drugging a 13 year old girl and farking her up the ass in your hot tub is still rape, even if you do happen to be a Hollywood director.
 
2014-07-09 03:33:36 PM  

JackieRabbit: Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?


I think what's happening is guys are getting douchier and douchier in relationships, so it may be time to address the growing influence that Redtube and Bangbus and all the legions of misogynistic videos are having on the newer generations.

Online porn has effectively desensitized teenagers from understanding what true intimacy really is. It has made teenage girls more experimentative at a time when they probably shouldn't be and it has made boys a lot more misogynistic, selfish and demanding.

So girls: Please understand the difference between rape and just having awful sex with a douchebag. The latter is not rape but do try to avoid both if you can, and stay safe.

And guys: Please stop being selfish douchebags in bed. Online porn is just a fantasy and not in any way resembling how you should actually treat a girl. Be gentle, talk to her, appeal to her needs, kiss her all over (yes, even her hoo-ha), make her come at least once, and snuggle -- before and after. And don't make ANY demands or unreasonable expectations. If she doesn't want to go down on you, don't force her. It's not about you. She's a human being, not a human-sized fleshlight.
 
2014-07-09 03:34:46 PM  

gopher321: Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

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I'm sure the actual raping going on outweighs a few media-hyped false reports.


An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.

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spiritplumber: I lost a semester of college because of a false rape accusation, actually. Not the end of the world, but still. There's also the whole "getting locked up and having no real idea why" part, it was a very scary five days.


Brother let me give you some advice. I've never been accused of rape but the politics of having sex with someone that you meet at work means basically that one of you is going to have to go. Just avoid the whole situation. Lie if you have to. If they are harassing you for a date, tell them you are seeing someone.

I know that school isn't work but it's coming to the point where the same attitude applies. Don't date from school or work; just don't do it.
 
2014-07-09 03:35:14 PM  

Khellendros: JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?

I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?

Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?

I don't think it's happening more, it's just finally being treated as unacceptable behavior and a brighter light is being put on it.

"Kids get drunk, kids have sex, better deal with consequences, ladies" is an antiquated way of looking at it.  Today, it's "whatever you did to get there, consent was never given, better deal with the consequences, gentlemen".


I can tell you with no reservation whatsoever that rape was NEVER tolerated when I attended college a quarter-centry ago. So don't give me the "it isn't tolerated now the way it once was." Because this is a myth; it never happened.
 
2014-07-09 03:35:49 PM  

Ishkur: Do you do this in every farking thread about women?


I thought this was about law, injustice and money not about women.

Is every thread about women to you?
 
2014-07-09 03:35:59 PM  

Ishkur: JackieRabbit: Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?

I think what's happening is guys are getting douchier and douchier in relationships, so it may be time to address the growing influence that Redtube and Bangbus and all the legions of misogynistic videos are having on the newer generations.

Online porn has effectively desensitized teenagers from understanding what true intimacy really is. It has made teenage girls more experimentative at a time when they probably shouldn't be and it has made boys a lot more misogynistic, selfish and demanding.

So girls: Please understand the difference between rape and just having awful sex with a douchebag. The latter is not rape but do try to avoid both if you can, and stay safe.

And guys: Please stop being selfish douchebags in bed. Online porn is just a fantasy and not in any way resembling how you should actually treat a girl. Be gentle, talk to her, appeal to her needs, kiss her all over (yes, even her hoo-ha), make her come at least once, and snuggle -- before and after. And don't make ANY demands or unreasonable expectations. If she doesn't want to go down on you, don't force her. It's not about you. She's a human being, not a human-sized fleshlight.


So yeah. That last paragraph;

"Here guys, here is a list of things you should do even if you don't want to. But if a girl doesn't want to do something, too bad".
 
2014-07-09 03:36:01 PM  

JackieRabbit: I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?


Yeah what is with that. Women all of a sudden now think that when they are completely drunk or passed out and a guy takes advantage of her, have sex with him it's rape!

Can you believe it!

/You're an idiot.
 
2014-07-09 03:36:02 PM  
Undocumented Sex?
 
Ant
2014-07-09 03:36:34 PM  

JackieRabbit: Khellendros: JackieRabbit: I have been wondering: What the hell is going on here? Have men started raping women on campuses at unprecedented rates? Can college-aged boys be more prone to sexual violence today than in other generations?

I haven't found much concrete about this phenomenon, but the ways that colleges are dealing with it or planning to deal with it pretty much tells the tale: they want to limit or ban alcohol from on-campus functions. This suggests to me me that it is the same-old-same-old: the kiddies get drunk, the girl farks a guy or guys (with some persuasion or not), she either is or fears being slut-shamed and cries rape. Or is something else going on?

Younger farkers: is or was rape a problem at your school?

I don't think it's happening more, it's just finally being treated as unacceptable behavior and a brighter light is being put on it.

"Kids get drunk, kids have sex, better deal with consequences, ladies" is an antiquated way of looking at it.  Today, it's "whatever you did to get there, consent was never given, better deal with the consequences, gentlemen".

I can tell you with no reservation whatsoever that rape was NEVER tolerated when I attended college a quarter-centry ago. So don't give me the "it isn't tolerated now the way it once was." Because this is a myth; it never happened.


Define rape
 
2014-07-09 03:37:34 PM  

Ant: fireclown: Ant: * We are using a definition of rape other than the one used by Republican legislators

[www.thelookingspoon.com image 425x499]
And a few others.

I was going to include her in there too. fark you, Whoopie. Drugging a 13 year old girl and farking her up the ass in your hot tub is still rape, even if you do happen to be a Hollywood director.


The insane thing is that a petition was circulated that indicated support from individuals in the movie industry, and PEOPLE SIGNED IT.

Click here for a list of bad people.
 
2014-07-09 03:39:03 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.

3.bp.blogspot.com


So why doesn't that work both ways?

Why do we have to repeal the laws so that more men get off legitimating raping women on the basis that some women make false allegations?
 
2014-07-09 03:39:38 PM  

spiritplumber: gopher321: Because People in power are Stupid: Will the nonstop rape carnival never end?

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 547x452]

I'm sure the actual raping going on outweighs a few media-hyped false reports.

I lost a semester of college because of a false rape accusation, actually. Not the end of the world, but still. There's also the whole "getting locked up and having no real idea why" part, it was a very scary five days.


Something similar happened to me. She hadn't gone to the police yet but seemed to be moving in that direction. Luckily I had a few things on her that she preferred be kept private and we were able to come to an understanding.
 
2014-07-09 03:39:48 PM  

maram500: mdeesnuts: Sexual 'assault' laws need a major revamping. I know a guy that spent 5 years in prison because he broke up with a girl and her Daddykins filed charges even though he knew they'd been farking under his roof for 2 years and approved - until the break up.

BONUS: They were the same age, but under 18.

/ruined the poor guy's life
//he's now officially a sexual predator

I've heard of similar cases. I have a couple questions:

1. What state was this in?
2. Did the defense bring up the fact that the dad had approved of the sexual relationship until the breakup?
3. Was there a complainant? (In most jurisdictions I know about, a complainant--aka victim--is required in order to prrosecute cases where the alleged assailant is older than 21 and the victim is under the age of consent.)
4. The legal system sometimes sucks. But aren't there ways to get off the sex offender list?


Georgia. I don't know the details of the case, I've met the guy through a neighbor and never got into all the details. I do know he eventually found/hired a good lawyer that got him out early. Probably because of some of the things you mentioned.

It was just a case in point on how absurd things are. My personal 'favorite' is getting on the sex offender list for pissing in a parking deck. Not off of it, on a wall in the corner. I know of a guy that happened to. It was in Athens and I assume the drunken pisser was a real prick to the cop, but still...

/another example of why I stick to my "be nice and respectful to the bully in the uniform" policy
//they can make your life a small living hell on a whim
 
2014-07-09 03:39:56 PM  

Ant: Define rape


To that idiot, getting a girl passed out on drinks then having sex with her is not rape.
 
2014-07-09 03:39:57 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: -hyped false reports.

An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.

3.bp.blogspot.com


How, about we accept that the justice system already takes the idea of false rape accusations too seriously, by a measurable and objective margin?

I get the MRAs like being oppressed, but every time they open their mouths about it, they're wrong.  You get to be wrong today.

But, still, we're listening for your non-misogynistic-and-pro-rape solution to this "problem" that's so common.
 
2014-07-09 03:41:28 PM  

Corvus: Because People in power are Stupid: An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.

3.bp.blogspot.com

So why doesn't that work both ways?

Why do we have to repeal the laws so that more men get off legitimating raping women on the basis that some women make false allegations?


So one way or another someone's life gets ruined when rape claims occur.

The rape happened:the woman is scarred for life.
The rape didn't happen: the guy essentially has to try to restart his life elsewhere.
 
2014-07-09 03:43:08 PM  

Corvus: Ant: Define rape

To that idiot, getting a girl passed out on drinks then having sex with her is not rape.


Passed out is not the same as drunk. Drunk people can consent, passed out people cannot.
 
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