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2014-07-09 09:59:49 AM  
I knew there was a lot, but damn, that's amazing.

Soon there will be no need for actual actors.
 
2014-07-09 11:15:11 AM  

Demetrius: Soon there will be no need for actual actors.


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Seriously, though, last summer they had a picture in a local newspaper of the set for the last X-Men movie, and it was just a massive wall of shipping containers covered by green tarps.
 
2014-07-09 11:18:54 AM  

Demetrius: I knew there was a lot, but damn, that's amazing.

Soon there will be no need for actual actors.


I was thinking the opposite - considering the amount of stuff that is filled in in post-production, the need for good actors is greater than ever.
 
2014-07-09 11:27:22 AM  
Why didn't they make the dwarfs riding pigs like they were in the book. The official explanation that it would be cruel to the pigs doesn't cut it because, um dragons.
 
2014-07-09 11:38:01 AM  
Fine, I get it. I still say five minutes of Lady Stoneheart wasn't a lot to ask for.
 
2014-07-09 11:49:13 AM  
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2014-07-09 11:52:34 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Why didn't they make the dwarfs riding pigs like they were in the book. The official explanation that it would be cruel to the pigs doesn't cut it because, um dragons.


Because GRRM ate them.
 
2014-07-09 11:54:53 AM  
Its amazing how many TV shows of all genres are using green screen sets these days.

The Weenerser child for this is CASTLE.  Now, I love the show to death, but while it is so patently NOT
filmed on location in NYC, they do a helluva job getting digitally stitch together panoramas.
 
2014-07-09 12:00:04 PM  

Jill Came Down With Two-Fifty: Fine, I get it. I still say five minutes of Lady Stoneheart wasn't a lot to ask for.


Again, while it WOULD have been neat, they can still use that for the ending of Season 5 episode 1 and hook the book virigins for the entire season too.
 
2014-07-09 12:03:53 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Its amazing how many TV shows of all genres are using green screen sets these days.

The Weenerser child for this is CASTLE.  Now, I love the show to death, but while it is so patently NOT
filmed on location in NYC, they do a helluva job getting digitally stitch together panoramas.


Wow.

2nd Filterpwn of the day.

I'm impressed with myself
 
2014-07-09 12:11:13 PM  

Demetrius: I knew there was a lot, but damn, that's amazing.

Soon there will be no need for actual actors.


or horticulturalists... had no idea so much of the plants were CGI...

won't someone think of the shrubbery ?
 
2014-07-09 12:15:16 PM  
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2014-07-09 12:16:44 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Why didn't they make the dwarfs riding pigs like they were in the book. The official explanation that it would be cruel to the pigs doesn't cut it because, um dragons.


Have you ever tried to train a pig?
 
2014-07-09 12:16:50 PM  

Stratohead: won't someone think of the shrubbery ?


Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.
 
2014-07-09 12:20:15 PM  

DecemberNitro: Stratohead: won't someone think of the shrubbery ?

Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.



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2014-07-09 12:24:12 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Jill Came Down With Two-Fifty: Fine, I get it. I still say five minutes of Lady Stoneheart wasn't a lot to ask for.

Again, while it WOULD have been neat, they can still use that for the ending of Season 5 episode 1 and hook the book virigins for the entire season too.


Which would work better for the show if they use the episode to remind viewers who the Brothers Without Banners are and what they are doing. An ending with just showing us Lady Stoneheart without context wouldn't be all that cool for show only viewers. 

Then there's the whole "no point" now that Brienne's story line has changed a whole lot. In the books Brienne was looking around the Riverlands and the show gets her in the Vale. There is little reason for the show to spend time with the scenario of Lady Stoneheart killing Freys, especially since Michelle Fairley is out of contract since the 3rd season. 

 I love her and Podrick's journey in the book but I also see why it's changing for the show.
 
2014-07-09 12:33:41 PM  

DaStompa: Have you ever tried to train a pig?


Most police forces go through mandatory training.
 
2014-07-09 12:34:55 PM  
I'd be interested in the science behind the CGI human crowds, sailors and soldiers. I know they can use crowding, queuing and flocking behaviors as a whole, but I wonder to what extent each element is autonomous vs. having specific behaviors programmed, or if they're just chosen from a set of templates (guarding, hammering, chasing, blocking, defending, etc.)
 
2014-07-09 12:39:55 PM  

buckler: I'd be interested in the science behind the CGI human crowds, sailors and soldiers. I know they can use crowding, queuing and flocking behaviors as a whole, but I wonder to what extent each element is autonomous vs. having specific behaviors programmed, or if they're just chosen from a set of templates (guarding, hammering, chasing, blocking, defending, etc.)


Looks like most of them are real actors filmed doing something than digitally resized and placed wherever. I don't believe they're CGI people.
 
2014-07-09 12:44:52 PM  

nitefallz: buckler: I'd be interested in the science behind the CGI human crowds, sailors and soldiers. I know they can use crowding, queuing and flocking behaviors as a whole, but I wonder to what extent each element is autonomous vs. having specific behaviors programmed, or if they're just chosen from a set of templates (guarding, hammering, chasing, blocking, defending, etc.)

Looks like most of them are real actors filmed doing something than digitally resized and placed wherever. I don't believe they're CGI people.


You might be surprised. I was thinking specifically about something like the Massive Engine.
 
2014-07-09 12:47:48 PM  
OOps. Left out the other link.
 
2014-07-09 12:56:36 PM  

Bot v2.38beta: Which would work better for the show if they use the episode to remind viewers who the Brothers Without Banners are and what they are doing. An ending with just showing us Lady Stoneheart without context wouldn't be all that cool for show only viewers.


Yup, as far as the viewers are concerned the Brotherhood Without Banners was primarily a vehicle to get Arya with Sandor and Gendry to Melisandre, both of which have been done. Unsure why readers thought Lady Stoneheart needed to be thrown in when she is not a terribly interesting character for any current happenings, and I thought the Sandor and Brienne scene was far better to help condense the winding altercations involving the Mummers, the Brotherhood, and so forth into the television series.
 
2014-07-09 01:07:13 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: DaStompa: Have you ever tried to train a pig?

Most police forces go through mandatory training.


But do they learn? we can't have a pig throwing off its midget rider and opening fire on a minority, hitting him twice of the hundreds of rounds fired.

Just think of the insurance
 
2014-07-09 01:10:53 PM  

DaStompa: Just think of the insurance


Danaerys had to pay triple damages for the dead sheep.

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2014-07-09 02:05:00 PM  

nitefallz: buckler: I'd be interested in the science behind the CGI human crowds, sailors and soldiers. I know they can use crowding, queuing and flocking behaviors as a whole, but I wonder to what extent each element is autonomous vs. having specific behaviors programmed, or if they're just chosen from a set of templates (guarding, hammering, chasing, blocking, defending, etc.)

Looks like most of them are real actors filmed doing something than digitally resized and placed wherever. I don't believe they're CGI people.


It depends on the situation/shot.  Static crowds can use real actors, but more complex shots with movement are usually better with CG characters.

Because People in power are Stupid: Why didn't they make the dwarfs riding pigs like they were in the book. The official explanation that it would be cruel to the pigs doesn't cut it because, um dragons.


And you'll notice how seldom we see those dragons.  They cost money.  And when you consider how much effort is required to create/animate CG creatures that interact closely with actors, then it makes sense why they cut it.

I think the Boardwalk Empire reels are more impressive simply because it's a fictionalization of real locations, where GOT is fantasy.

http://vimeo.com/18275127

Their other breakdowns are up there as well.
 
2014-07-09 02:13:36 PM  
 
2014-07-09 02:45:38 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: They cost money.

Well, duh.

https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-tv/burning-question--how-does--game -o f-thrones--thrive-despite-high-per-episode-costs-234743521.html

They can afford it.


You realize they still work under a budget, right?
 
2014-07-09 02:52:07 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: DaStompa: Just think of the insurance

Danaerys had to pay triple damages for the dead sheep.

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I'm going to bring this up, because it bugs me, so excuse the threadjack. What is up with the rash of .gifs lately that are like, half a second long? They're abrupt, weird looking, and are often accompanied by an entire quote from the subject. I understand size limits, and I'm sure you just dug that one up from somewhere else instead of making it, but why not just use a still picture? Why does the Half Baked quote have to come along with Dave Chapelle mouthing through half a word in a loop? Either go all the way or use a still!

/alright, I'm done
//pet peave
 
2014-07-09 03:09:18 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: You realize they still work under a budget, right?


The Rome budget was 10 million per episode and GoT is 6 to 8. GoT is their best selling and most profitable franchise to date.

I would've liked to see it. I suppose you wouldn't but many other people would have.

Do the math.
 
2014-07-09 03:10:38 PM  

Mentalpatient87: but why not just use a still picture?


This is your answer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy
 
2014-07-09 03:22:32 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: You realize they still work under a budget, right?

The Rome budget was 10 million per episode and GoT is 6 to 8. GoT is their best selling and most profitable franchise to date.

I would've liked to see it. I suppose you wouldn't but many other people would have.

Do the math.


I would have liked to have seen it as well.  Just saying there are legitimate reasons why they didn't.

The amount of work/money involved for that scene would trump pretty much anything else they did this past season.

Of course the show is profitable, but the producers are still beholden to the HBO higher ups.  And the scale of the show's profitability was likely not fully known when production on that scene needed to start.  There's a reason successful shows/films get budget increases in future seasons.  And Rome isn't exactly the best example.  I'm pretty sure its budget was the driving force behind its cancellation.
 
2014-07-09 04:15:59 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I was thinking the opposite - considering the amount of stuff that is filled in in post-production, the need for good actors is greater than ever.


This. I'd think working opposite a green screen would be much more difficult than another actor or actual set.
 
2014-07-09 05:07:42 PM  

Bot v2.38beta: Jim from Saint Paul: Jill Came Down With Two-Fifty: Fine, I get it. I still say five minutes of Lady Stoneheart wasn't a lot to ask for.

Again, while it WOULD have been neat, they can still use that for the ending of Season 5 episode 1 and hook the book virigins for the entire season too.

Which would work better for the show if they use the episode to remind viewers who the Brothers Without Banners are and what they are doing. An ending with just showing us Lady Stoneheart without context wouldn't be all that cool for show only viewers. 

Then there's the whole "no point" now that Brienne's story line has changed a whole lot. In the books Brienne was looking around the Riverlands and the show gets her in the Vale. There is little reason for the show to spend time with the scenario of Lady Stoneheart killing Freys, especially since Michelle Fairley is out of contract since the 3rd season. 

 I love her and Podrick's journey in the book but I also see why it's changing for the show.


Because Brienne is low on Farkability Points, and everyone knows the only reason to have a woman on a show is eye candy, victim, or strong woman who thinks she's winning but totally loses to a man in the end.  Brienne does not make good TV.
 
2014-07-09 06:12:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bot v2.38beta: Jim from Saint Paul: Jill Came Down With Two-Fifty: Fine, I get it. I still say five minutes of Lady Stoneheart wasn't a lot to ask for.

Again, while it WOULD have been neat, they can still use that for the ending of Season 5 episode 1 and hook the book virigins for the entire season too.

Which would work better for the show if they use the episode to remind viewers who the Brothers Without Banners are and what they are doing. An ending with just showing us Lady Stoneheart without context wouldn't be all that cool for show only viewers. 

Then there's the whole "no point" now that Brienne's story line has changed a whole lot. In the books Brienne was looking around the Riverlands and the show gets her in the Vale. There is little reason for the show to spend time with the scenario of Lady Stoneheart killing Freys, especially since Michelle Fairley is out of contract since the 3rd season. 

 I love her and Podrick's journey in the book but I also see why it's changing for the show.

Because Brienne is low on Farkability Points, and everyone knows the only reason to have a woman on a show is eye candy, victim, or strong woman who thinks she's winning but totally loses to a man in the end.  Brienne does not make good TV.


Was wondering how long it would take, I have my answer.
 
2014-07-09 06:27:41 PM  

Luse: Benevolent Misanthrope: Bot v2.38beta: Jim from Saint Paul: Jill Came Down With Two-Fifty: Fine, I get it. I still say five minutes of Lady Stoneheart wasn't a lot to ask for.

Again, while it WOULD have been neat, they can still use that for the ending of Season 5 episode 1 and hook the book virigins for the entire season too.

Which would work better for the show if they use the episode to remind viewers who the Brothers Without Banners are and what they are doing. An ending with just showing us Lady Stoneheart without context wouldn't be all that cool for show only viewers. 

Then there's the whole "no point" now that Brienne's story line has changed a whole lot. In the books Brienne was looking around the Riverlands and the show gets her in the Vale. There is little reason for the show to spend time with the scenario of Lady Stoneheart killing Freys, especially since Michelle Fairley is out of contract since the 3rd season. 

 I love her and Podrick's journey in the book but I also see why it's changing for the show.

Because Brienne is low on Farkability Points, and everyone knows the only reason to have a woman on a show is eye candy, victim, or strong woman who thinks she's winning but totally loses to a man in the end.  Brienne does not make good TV.

Was wondering how long it would take, I have my answer.


In all fairness, Brienne is also boring in the books.  To my mind, at least.
 
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