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(Slate)   "The US Army's Project TALOS is developing the ultimate robotic exoskeleton for soldiers. On the front lines of the project are the true experts: the Oscar-nominated special effects team behind the onscreen suit in Iron Man"   (slate.com) divider line 34
    More: Cool, Iron Man, U.S., Hollywood, U.S. Special Operations Command, U.S. military, Project TALOS, Days of Future Past, house plan  
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2014-07-08 12:16:22 PM  
Talos the Mighty! Talos the unerring! Talos the unassailable! To you we give Praise! We are but maggots writhing in the filth of our own corruption! While you have ascended from the dung of mortality, and now walk among the stars! But you were once man! Aye! And as man you said, "Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now in royalty and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you." [nb 1] Aye, love! Love! Even as man, great Talos cherished us. For he saw in us, in each of us, the future of Skyrim! The future of Tamriel! And there it is, friends! The ugly truth! We are the children of man! Talos is the true god of man! Ascended from flesh, to rule the realm of spirit! The very idea is inconceivable to our Elven overlords! Sharing the heavens with us? With man? Ha! They can barely tolerate our presence on earth! Today, they take away your faith. But what of tomorrow? What then? Do the elves take your homes? Your businesses? Your children? Your very lives? And what does the Empire do? Nothing! Nay, worse than nothing! The Imperial machine enforces the will of the Thalmor! Against its own people! So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks! Embrace the word of mighty Talos, he who is both man and Divine! For we are the children of man! And we shall inherit the heavens and earth! And we, not the Elves or their toadies, will rule Skyrim! Forever!
 
2014-07-08 12:16:56 PM  
Hollywood, make believe, US Army, yup, it's all here.
Hold on to your farkin' wallet, 'cause they are cuming again.
 
2014-07-08 12:25:47 PM  
 
2014-07-08 12:37:18 PM  
 
2014-07-08 01:59:48 PM  
"To do it right, they need about a billion dollars ... Twenty million dollars a year in an R&D budget- you couldn't even develop a pencil on that."

...he said without a hint of sarcasm.
 
2014-07-08 02:09:51 PM  
Unless Robert Downy Jr. is in the suit, it won't work.
 
2014-07-08 02:11:08 PM  
 
2014-07-08 02:13:35 PM  
I thought money was tight and the US owes creditors $45 trillion.

Why don't we just use the stuff we have?
 
2014-07-08 02:17:40 PM  

urger: Talos the Mighty! Talos the unerring! Talos the unassailable! To you we give Praise!


Talos, Talos, Talos, AH!

Buried in the comments thread is Michael Gough, the voice actor for "MaleNord" including Heimskr, finding amusement in that vid.
 
2014-07-08 02:34:33 PM  
The lightning god of the Forgotten Realms? Is the bio warfare department working on the Moander Project?
 
2014-07-08 02:40:05 PM  
"Do you want to go to Talos IV, Captain Pike?"
"{beep}   {beep}"
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-07-08 02:44:56 PM  
I'm okay with this.

i306.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-08 02:53:30 PM  

urger: Talos!


Shut the hell up you old loon!
 
2014-07-08 03:21:06 PM  
Talos?
We're really going to call the first power armor talos?

Step one for hollywood, come up with a catchier name.
Then they better come up with a pants-shiattingly good look.
dl.dropboxusercontent.com
/I was betting on "Titan" with all the video game stuff going there lately (Destiny, Titanfall, Star citizen, etc...).
/That or some indescribably dull acronym.
 
2014-07-08 03:33:43 PM  
In Starship Troopers, RAH gives us all the necessary specifications, what he does not tell you is where you get the several hundred horsepower needed to MOVE an armored suit, let along fight with it.  I try to imagine power packs that can take a bullet without turning into a small crater...

Which does NOT mean we should not be attempting the R+D, what's money for?  But I don't expect anything really useful for another decade or more.
 
2014-07-08 03:50:58 PM  

bmwericus: In Starship Troopers, RAH gives us all the necessary specifications, what he does not tell you is where you get the several hundred horsepower needed to MOVE an armored suit, let along fight with it.  I try to imagine power packs that can take a bullet without turning into a small crater...

Which does NOT mean we should not be attempting the R+D, what's money for?  But I don't expect anything really useful for another decade or more.


There it is.  At the end of the day, it all comes down to power.  Even the tightest of LiPo packs won't provide enough power to move something that big, and even if it did you're one stray bullet or compromised armor away a fatal explosion.
 
2014-07-08 04:01:13 PM  

bmwericus: In Starship Troopers, RAH gives us all the necessary specifications, what he does not tell you is where you get the several hundred horsepower needed to MOVE an armored suit, let along fight with it.  I try to imagine power packs that can take a bullet without turning into a small crater...

Which does NOT mean we should not be attempting the R+D, what's money for?  But I don't expect anything really useful for another decade or more.


Linear electric motors and hydraulics can be pretty powerful. You can make a fist sized device thats able to rip a car door off its hinges with ease, so I don't see a problem with the physical construction of a power armor that can do amazing stuff.

The real question is where to get the energy to drive it.
Batteries are too bulky, so first gen suits will probably need motors or fuel cells.


...Of course if you allow a slightly larger suit, you've got more room for engines and batteries and motors and such.  Once you give up on the idea that a power armor must fit within a certain size class then the sky's the limit.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
/The real budget killer will be designing the software to drive all this.
 
2014-07-08 04:04:32 PM  

algrant33: "Do you want to go to Talos IV, Captain Pike?"
"{beep}   {beep}"
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x676]


See, now, that episode has pissed me off ever since I learned Morse.  If Pike can control the little flashy-beepy light, then he can use it to send Morse.  Which means he isn't limited to "Yes" and "No" answers.  He can give complete (if slow) testimony.

And we know at least some people in the future know Morse code:

UHURA: I'm picking up a signal, sir. (a series of beeps comes over the speakers) Captain, that's the old Morse code call signal. 
KIRK: Thank you. 
UHURA: CQ. CQ. 
KIRK: We're reading it, Lieutenant.
 
2014-07-08 04:21:39 PM  
Uhm, I can save us a ton of development money. Just build a tank with oversized treads that allow greater mobility. These 'mechs' that we are developing toward have no benefit over modern armour than coolness.

Speed? Nope, modern tanks can go nearly highway speeds
Rough terrain? Nope, tanks can go over very rough terrain and benefit from a wider stance and lower center of gravity.
Payload? Nope, modern armour are an ideal platform for a variety of weapons - ballistic, rocket, or even energy.
 
2014-07-08 04:53:17 PM  

madgonad: Uhm, I can save us a ton of development money. Just build a tank with oversized treads that allow greater mobility. These 'mechs' that we are developing toward have no benefit over modern armour than coolness.

Speed? Nope, modern tanks can go nearly highway speeds
Rough terrain? Nope, tanks can go over very rough terrain and benefit from a wider stance and lower center of gravity.
Payload? Nope, modern armour are an ideal platform for a variety of weapons - ballistic, rocket, or even energy.


Yeah!  Faster horses for our carriages!
 
2014-07-08 05:41:15 PM  

madgonad: Uhm, I can save us a ton of development money. Just build a tank with oversized treads that allow greater mobility. These 'mechs' that we are developing toward have no benefit over modern armour than coolness.

Speed? Nope, modern tanks can go nearly highway speeds
Rough terrain? Nope, tanks can go over very rough terrain and benefit from a wider stance and lower center of gravity.
Payload? Nope, modern armour are an ideal platform for a variety of weapons - ballistic, rocket, or even energy.


When the Zentraedi arrive, you'll be grateful for these exosuits puny micronian
 
2014-07-08 06:32:32 PM  

madgonad: Uhm, I can save us a ton of development money. Just build a tank with oversized treads that allow greater mobility. These 'mechs' that we are developing toward have no benefit over modern armour than coolness.

Speed? Nope, modern tanks can go nearly highway speeds
Rough terrain? Nope, tanks can go over very rough terrain and benefit from a wider stance and lower center of gravity.
Payload? Nope, modern armour are an ideal platform for a variety of weapons - ballistic, rocket, or even energy.


Can a tank enter a building?

Without inevitably leveling it in the process, that is
 
2014-07-08 06:55:39 PM  
Maddox 0-1 Metal Skin Panic  is now on tonight's viewing agenda :-)
 
2014-07-08 07:02:19 PM  

madgonad: Uhm, I can save us a ton of development money. Just build a tank with oversized treads that allow greater mobility. These 'mechs' that we are developing toward have no benefit over modern armour than coolness.

Speed? Nope, modern tanks can go nearly highway speeds
Rough terrain? Nope, tanks can go over very rough terrain and benefit from a wider stance and lower center of gravity.
Payload? Nope, modern armour are an ideal platform for a variety of weapons - ballistic, rocket, or even energy.




Tanks are trounced by modern airpower. They've been fairly defenseless for the last half century. With the advent of cheaper guided weaponry, there really isn't a reason for anything heavier than an ifv to exist.

In the mean time we're losing soldiers to basic stuff like street battles.
There's lots of better body armor and weaponry we could be using, but its heavy.
With wars moving in from the fields to the towns and even indoors, I can see a great interest in the military for taking the next step. Be it robotics do armor suits, they want something new.

Tanks are old and as obsolete as the battleships of old.
 
2014-07-08 07:29:22 PM  

MadCat221: Can a tank enter a building?

Without inevitably leveling it in the process, that is


The warning shot will clear the building.  Have you ever been close to an Abrams?  When it's firing?
 
2014-07-08 07:42:33 PM  
sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk
 
2014-07-08 08:50:58 PM  
Your tank vs. mech city and intra-building warfare questions... all answered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPsjl4APdI

Plus a teen romance subplot.  You can't beat 80's anime.
 
2014-07-08 09:07:44 PM  
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Dust to dust
Ashes to ashes
Soul to soul


/Yoooooooooh!  Doink Doink Doink
 
2014-07-08 09:51:00 PM  

2wolves: MadCat221: Can a tank enter a building?

Without inevitably leveling it in the process, that is

The warning shot will clear the building.  Have you ever been close to an Abrams?  When it's firing?


I'd imagine the pressure wave from an Abrams shot in close quarters could potentially level the building, never mind clear it.

I do wish games would start reflecting that more. Pesky asshole in Battlefield bunnyhopping around your tank? Just fire off one shot and let the blast wave turn his internal organs to mush.
 
2014-07-09 01:07:02 AM  
I know this is bigger than what we are talking about here, but, I always loved this MW3 Intro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm76b8tzzWI
 
2014-07-09 03:13:25 AM  
Anime can be beaten out of people.
 
2014-07-09 07:26:33 AM  
On the front lines of the project are the true experts: the Oscar-nominated special effects team behind the onscreen suit in Iron Man.

Yes. Because Hollywood special effects people are the real experts in military weapons systems.
 
2014-07-09 01:51:41 PM  

Kittypie070: Anime can be beaten out of people.


that sounds, kinky
 
2014-07-09 11:54:16 PM  

way south: <p><strong><a data-farkhash="" href="http://www.fark.com/comments/8328745/91817369#c91817369" target="_blank">madgonad</a>:</strong> <em>Uhm, I can save us a ton of development money. Just build a tank with oversized treads that allow greater mobility. These 'mechs' that we are developing toward have no benefit over modern armour than coolness.

Speed? Nope, modern tanks can go nearly highway speeds
Rough terrain? Nope, tanks can go over very rough terrain and benefit from a wider stance and lower center of gravity.
Payload? Nope, modern armour are an ideal platform for a variety of weapons - ballistic, rocket, or even energy.</em>

</p>

Tanks are trounced by modern airpower. They've been fairly defenseless for the last half century. With the advent of cheaper guided weaponry, there really isn't a reason for anything heavier than an ifv to exist.

In the mean time we're losing soldiers to basic stuff like street battles.
There's lots of better body armor and weaponry we could be using, but its heavy.
With wars moving in from the fields to the towns and even indoors, I can see a great interest in the military for taking the next step. Be it robotics do armor suits, they want something new.

Tanks are old and as obsolete as the battleships of old.


I'll do you one better. Forget armor all together.  Just build cheap easily replaceable high speed off road drones.  1,000 unmanned light frame 4x4 vehicles equipped with the right tools are unstoppable. Build them just like those flippable RC cars.
web.vtc.edu

what about flats you say? ha just use solid rubber tires or wire mesh tires.
tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com

What about unrecoverables? nearby drones could siphon off left over fuel and then allow them to self destruct.

The army could equip them with loud speakers to give orders to those who surrender.  There could be self detain yourself drone paddy wagons, Just like self check out lines.
 
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