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(AZ Family)   If you're wearing dark clothing while in a wheelchair without any reflectors and you're at a part of the street where there's only one street light and no marked crosswalk, you might want to wait until daylight to cross   (azfamily.com) divider line 31
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2014-07-08 05:17:19 PM  
Immediately what I thought of:


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2014-07-08 06:04:01 PM  
It was a UFO!
 
2014-07-08 06:08:58 PM  
Don't leave home without it
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-08 06:17:57 PM  
Even in Massachusetts, where you can go to jail for running over a pedestrian, police would let that one go.
 
2014-07-08 06:21:08 PM  
I unfortunately could not find reflective wet weather gear that would cover my wheelchair (large electric, think Stephen Hawking size), but The Bloke(tm) found a huge rain poncho for camping that did the job (parts of the chair, like the controller, cannot get damp. Found that out when the controller got some dampness in some fog and died, AU$1k later to replace, ouch). I go to work on public transport, and I have to cross a main road which is busy at 630am ,which is still dark in winter. The nearest crossings are quite a way away.   I use a torch that I shine at cars so they seeSOMETHING,  try very hard to cross in between batches, so when it is safe.

But a manual chair is even harder, because it is pretty exhausting to go further than necessary, frome it causes huge physical pain, so I have to shorten travel times as much as possible.

In short, it is easy to say the guy was an idiot, but damn it, it isn't that simple.
 
2014-07-08 06:22:18 PM  
Dammit, hit enter.

So while I have no blame for the poor traumatised driver, I just wanted to point out there may be factors that people who walk may not consider.
 
2014-07-08 06:29:23 PM  
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2014-07-08 06:31:07 PM  
That's why you're supposed to get a hottie to push you around.

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2014-07-08 06:37:18 PM  
The closest I came to killing a pedestrian was while driving on campus across an unlit, mid-block crosswalk at night.  She was wearing black, except for a white blouse that neither my Dad nor I saw until she turned side-wise while jumping out of the way of my car.  Scared the crap out of all three of us.

Now, 25 years later, that crosswalk has a traffic signal installed around it.
 
2014-07-08 06:42:37 PM  

ZAZ: Even in Massachusetts, where you can go to jail for running over a pedestrian, police would let that one go.


Where do you not go to jail for running over a pedestrian?
 
2014-07-08 06:45:12 PM  

thamike: ZAZ: Even in Massachusetts, where you can go to jail for running over a pedestrian, police would let that one go.

Where do you not go to jail for running over a pedestrian?


Florida but you have to be a drunk athlete and the pedestrian has to have been drinking as well
 
2014-07-08 06:53:01 PM  
Reflectivity is best, but even just the hue-lightness of their pants makes a big difference for pedestrians at night. If you have dark jeans on, don't expect any car to see you with regular headlights until your ass is impacted in their bumper.
 
2014-07-08 07:00:19 PM  
I'm glad to learn calling 911 after I hit a pedestrian is " exactly the right thing to do." I mean there are so many other options to choose from in this situation. I was going to loose sleep tonight worrying about it.
 
2014-07-08 07:04:30 PM  

LiberalZombie: The closest I came to killing a pedestrian was while driving on campus across an unlit, mid-block crosswalk at night.  She was wearing black, except for a white blouse that neither my Dad nor I saw until she turned side-wise while jumping out of the way of my car.  Scared the crap out of all three of us.

Now, 25 years later, that crosswalk has a traffic signal installed around it.


Side-wise?
 
2014-07-08 07:14:20 PM  

kindms: thamike: ZAZ: Even in Massachusetts, where you can go to jail for running over a pedestrian, police would let that one go.

Where do you not go to jail for running over a pedestrian?

Florida but you have to be a drunk athlete and the pedestrian has to have been drinking as well


Since Donté Stallworth did time I guess the guy he hit and killed was sober.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-08 07:15:38 PM  
thamike: Where do you not go to jail for running over a pedestrian?

New York and Maryland are two places. A big fraction of the United States has a gap between "oops" (regular ticket) and manslaughter, or prosecutors are not willing to push the envelope.

In Massachusetts ordinary negligence, an "oops" moment while driving, can send you to jail if somebody dies. A driver in Essex County got a year for running over a pedestrian without adequate excuse. That was a longer than normal sentence.  The usual range is 0-6 months to serve, formally imposed as 2 years with the balance suspended. A first offense motor vehicle homicide conviction results in 15 year loss of license.
 
2014-07-08 07:28:32 PM  
You would think she would at least get a "too fast for conditions" charge.  ~40mph you should be able to see someone in time to stop regardless of their attire, especially if there is a single street light in the middle of the city.

Maybe the mean no criminal charges.

I GIS'd the location and there was some guy pushing an ice cream cart in the middle of the road.
 
2014-07-08 07:47:33 PM  

LiberalZombie: The closest I came to killing a pedestrian was while driving on campus across an unlit, mid-block crosswalk at night.  She was wearing black, except for a white blouse that neither my Dad nor I saw until she turned side-wise while jumping out of the way of my car.  Scared the crap out of all three of us.

Now, 25 years later, that crosswalk has a traffic signal installed around it.


Some pedestrians seem to think that because they can see you, you can see them, regardless of conditions (rain, dark, etc.). I'm not sure why in the fark they think that a vehicle with lights and an engine making noise that can be heard from 100 feet away is the same as a person with no lights or engine noise, but apparently some pedestrians are really stupid.
 
2014-07-08 07:56:08 PM  
At least once I can recall, while turning into my apt. complex at  night, I've had a pedestrian walk right in front of my car and if I hadn't stopped suddenly because holy shiat! that farking idiot just walked right in front of me! I would have hit them. I think people think "Pedestrians have the right of way!" means "I can walk in front of any vehicle and they have to stop!"

HAVE to stop and ABLE to stop are two different things, morons.

I expect little kids to be so stupid they don't know about stopping distances. But adults are supposed to be smarter.
 
2014-07-08 08:08:37 PM  
This is why I bought some yellow reflective tape and stuck it on a good few spots in my black winter coat. Now I glow in the dark.
 
2014-07-08 08:11:54 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: At least once I can recall, while turning into my apt. complex at  night, I've had a pedestrian walk right in front of my car and if I hadn't stopped suddenly because holy shiat! that farking idiot just walked right in front of me! I would have hit them. I think people think "Pedestrians have the right of way!" means "I can walk in front of any vehicle and they have to stop!"

HAVE to stop and ABLE to stop are two different things, morons.

I expect little kids to be so stupid they don't know about stopping distances. But adults are supposed to be smarter.


This is always fun in the winter. People will pull out in front of others, expecting others to stop for them; but the ice increases the stopping distances until the point if WHAMMO.

Moral: don't play chicken with your car.
 
2014-07-08 08:18:51 PM  
There was a guy on our street back home that would run his electric wheelchair down the road. No lights or reflective stuff and usually wearing dark colors. I was surprised that he wasn't ever run over, but I guess he wasn't out at night.

If I had to use a wheelchair or scooter at night I'd likely get a few lights to mount on it. If it runs on 12v you can simply mount a few led lights and wire them into the battery without really decreasing the range. Otherwise you can get battery powered lights like they use on bicycles. Reflective strips also help. Basically anything that draws attention. People paying attention aren't a likely to run you over, you need to grab the attention of the others.
 
2014-07-08 08:46:10 PM  

thamike: ZAZ: Even in Massachusetts, where you can go to jail for running over a pedestrian, police would let that one go.

Where do you not go to jail for running over a pedestrian?


NYC. It's expected. And Annaheim. Those drivers hate pedestrians.
 
2014-07-08 10:11:25 PM  

NBSV: There was a guy on our street back home that would run his electric wheelchair down the road. No lights or reflective stuff and usually wearing dark colors. I was surprised that he wasn't ever run over, but I guess he wasn't out at night.

If I had to use a wheelchair or scooter at night I'd likely get a few lights to mount on it. If it runs on 12v you can simply mount a few led lights and wire them into the battery without really decreasing the range. Otherwise you can get battery powered lights like they use on bicycles. Reflective strips also help. Basically anything that draws attention. People paying attention aren't a likely to run you over, you need to grab the attention of the others.


If you have people to help you wire them in. It is not always that simple. I agree that the issue is visibility, but how come we don't get easy access to good high-vis protective gear for wheelchairs,(cause we aren't expected to go anywhere?). And do it yourself is easy if you can 1) get access to a store that sells it 2) have a disability that allows you to do it.

As for travelling on the road, some footpaths are just impassable. I avoid the road where I can, but people leave their cars JUST out of their driveway over the path. Great, I can't walk around on the grass, buddy. Large fallen twigs. Overgrown hedges. Bins left inconveniently. Things people don't notice until they have a life changing event, or one of their family does. I certainly didn't before - even with the kids in prams, I could manoeuvre.

I used to think people should be more proactive.  Now I know it isn't that simple. Not to mention being ground down by having to try to get around in a world that is semi okay if you are lucky. Getting through a day is exhausting - and I have chronic severe pain to go with it, so double whammy. Justunderstand, not asking for pity, just understand. It isn't always that simple.
 
2014-07-08 10:15:29 PM  
3 of 4 I'm good thanks.
 
2014-07-08 11:28:32 PM  
I've had a bunch of close calls, but one of the stupider ones was a cop. He pulled someone over in the rain, and left his car behind them but fully in the lane. I was coming towards him and his very bright headlights completely blinded me to the fact that he was standing next to them - IN MY LANE. He's wearing dark colours and stands right next to very bright headlights and I'm supposed to see this guy at night. I probably came within an inch of him with my mirror even though I was well to the right in my lane.
 
2014-07-08 11:47:07 PM  
I just drove by a kid walking within a foot of the road wearing all black. Fortunately for him he was wearing a black sleeveless T and his scrawny white arms were visible.  (That and I don't drive a foot off the road.)
 
2014-07-08 11:59:09 PM  
It's Phoenix.  Jaywalking, biking, and skateboarding in the road in the dark wearing dark clothing are all tolerated, as is speeding down the side roads.

Which is probably why this person is not charged.  When there's bright city lights near the road, bright vehicle headlights on the road, and blacked out people in the road, it's nearly impossible to see anything.  Even below the speed limit it's not terribly unusual for me to be surprised by a pedestrian or irresponsible bike rider.  The only thing I can think of is they figure they can see the cars and avoid them.  Which works until it doesn't.

I also see a lot people driving without their headlights on.  That combination can't be good.
 
2014-07-09 12:13:45 AM  
When the hell did 32nd and Thomas become a "minor intersection"?
 
2014-07-09 10:02:36 AM  

Old Smokie: It's Phoenix.  Jaywalking, biking, and skateboarding in the road in the dark wearing dark clothing are all tolerated, as is speeding down the side roads.

Which is probably why this person is not charged.  When there's bright city lights near the road, bright vehicle headlights on the road, and blacked out people in the road, it's nearly impossible to see anything.  Even below the speed limit it's not terribly unusual for me to be surprised by a pedestrian or irresponsible bike rider.  The only thing I can think of is they figure they can see the cars and avoid them.  Which works until it doesn't.

I also see a lot people driving without their headlights on.  That combination can't be good.


Yep, there are streets in the valley where driving at night is terrifying because of all the low-visibility people flitting around in traffic. You'd think that cyclists at least would know better than to ride without reflective gear...but no.
 
2014-07-09 05:24:29 PM  
I ride a well lit motorcycle and wear bright colored reflective gear, and some drivers still don't see me. Increasing visibility doesn't always work.
 
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