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(Stanford University)   Lack of exercise, not diet, linked to rise in obesity, Stanford research shows in a study brought to you by Conagra, Archer Daniels Midland and Mosanto   (med.stanford.edu) divider line 139
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2014-07-08 11:21:40 AM
"The percentage of women reporting no physical activity jumped from 19 percent to 52 percent between 1988 and 2010; the percentage of inactive men rose from 11 percent to 43 percent over the same period."

Holee hefties that's insane.
 
2014-07-08 11:43:48 AM
The addition of high-fructose corn syrup to anything and everything in that same time period surely had nothing to do with anything.
 
2014-07-08 11:49:08 AM
Makes sense. Me, my brother and my dad all eat pretty much the same. Those two exercise regularly and ar healthy weights. Unless you count walking up the stairs to go to bed as exercise, I get none, and I'm 50 pounds overweight.

/anecdote is too a kind of data!
 
2014-07-08 11:56:07 AM

Chariset: The addition of high-fructose corn syrup to anything and everything in that same time period surely had nothing to do with anything.


If you have more calories to burn, you need to expend more energy to maintain your weight at a healthy level.

It definitely didn't help though.  It is too goddamn easy to consume 4000 calories in a day while living a sedentary lifestyle.
 
2014-07-08 11:56:11 AM
Compulsively bouncing your leg at work is a kind of exercise.
 
2014-07-08 11:58:38 AM

ginandbacon: Holee hefties that's insane.


Two words:

Personal. Computing.

/tries to bike everyday
//hard when it's 95 with 92% humidity with a 103 index.
 
2014-07-08 12:02:57 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Makes sense. Me, my brother and my dad all eat pretty much the same. Those two exercise regularly and ar healthy weights. Unless you count walking up the stairs to go to bed as exercise, I get none, and I'm 50 pounds overweight.

/anecdote is too a kind of data!


My wife is constantly doing some sort of physical activity.  Whether it was walking with the kids to playgrounds or now that we have a house doing yard work and gardening, she is constantly expending energy.  She eats more than I do yet maintains a healthy weight.

I'm mostly sedentary, and have to be careful with what I eat.

I bike to work as often as I can, and try to do some basic pushups and crunches every night.
 
2014-07-08 12:07:06 PM

meat0918: Gecko Gingrich: Makes sense. Me, my brother and my dad all eat pretty much the same. Those two exercise regularly and ar healthy weights. Unless you count walking up the stairs to go to bed as exercise, I get none, and I'm 50 pounds overweight.

/anecdote is too a kind of data!

My wife is constantly doing some sort of physical activity.  Whether it was walking with the kids to playgrounds or now that we have a house doing yard work and gardening, she is constantly expending energy.  She eats more than I do yet maintains a healthy weight.

I'm mostly sedentary, and have to be careful with what I eat.

I bike to work as often as I can, and try to do some basic pushups and crunches every night.


Do them in the morning instead. Your body will recognized muscle exertion and convert more of that day's food into muscle than fat.
 
2014-07-08 12:09:38 PM
Now then, let's attack the causes of a lack of physical activity.

My best guess: busier schedules, and more available entertainment.
 
2014-07-08 12:10:29 PM
I saw some other study hypothesizing that the country's migration to the South and Southwest also added to the Obesity Epidemic.  They said that the advent of air conditioning made these areas more hospitable to live in.  So people moved there to escape the snow and cold.  However, when you get there it's too damn hot to do anything but sit inside, eat ribs, and get fat.  At least when its cold out you need to shovel your damn driveway.

Doesn't explain everything though, as here in Michigan we have a crapton of porkers.  They tend to pay people to cut their grass and clear their driveways though....because DIABEETIS.
 
2014-07-08 12:14:05 PM

grinding_journalist: ginandbacon: Holee hefties that's insane.

Two words:

Personal. Computing.

/tries to bike everyday
//hard when it's 95 with 92% humidity with a 103 index.


Yeah, I managed to give the dog a nice walk almost every day last week but that's not going to be happening again anytime soon.

I think sitting at work is the worst thing for us. And driving everywhere. At least more Americans are living in urban areas so we are probably driving a little less...

I remember seeing a study on how much less we move now compared to our parents and grandparents. It's even down to things like housework. We just don't move that much in our daily lives. I think there was a study that tracked hotel housekeepers and they lost significant amounts of weight after starting that work. I know when I switched to a white-collar job from cooking and retail, I gained maybe 15-20 lbs. It's was a real shock. (I lost it pretty quickly when I stopped driving to work, so I don't think it takes much to stay healthy--I was just adding about 30 mins a day which really isn't a lot.)
 
2014-07-08 12:16:13 PM
Why not both?
 
2014-07-08 12:17:03 PM

meat0918: I bike to work as often as I can, and try to do some basic pushups and crunches every night


Basic pushups get boring, try soemthing more fun/advanced (diamonds, archer, etc).

ginandbacon: I think sitting at work is the worst thing for us.


Squat.

It looks silly (or straight up stupid) but it is great for you, and you can dit on the phone.
 
2014-07-08 12:17:19 PM
I've always heard and seen that the way you look is about 80% what you stuff down your pie hole, and 20% how much you do.
Makes sense given that certain foods promote fat storage even in lower amounts and others don't unless you eat a ton.
Eat real food slowly until you're satisfied. Chew it well. Walk a lot.
 
2014-07-08 12:18:25 PM
Bad Subby!  No!  You can't blame Monsanto for anything ever!  Monsanto is run by angels who only want the best for America and the World.  Monsanto would solve all the world's problems if it weren't for hippies, environmentalists, and bureaucrats who only want to keep the saints of Monsanto down and bury them under regulations and unsubstantiated accusations.

/That's what Fark independents told me...
 
2014-07-08 12:19:40 PM

ikanreed: Now then, let's attack the causes of a lack of physical activity.

My best guess: busier schedules, and more available entertainment.


CARS
 
2014-07-08 12:19:41 PM
I work in a fairly small office (two stories- 8,000 sq.ft.). Due to the terrain, the downstairs is at ground level from the north entrance, and the upper floor is at ground level at the south entrance. I have a couple, ummm larger, co-workers who park on one side, then walk all the way around the lot to make sure they don't have to take a single step up a stair to get in the building. And this isn't because of any disability or knee issue, they simply don't want to have to go up and down steps. Even during a regular work day, they won't take the stairwell to the other floor and will simply call people on the phone to have a conversation.

It's pathetic how fat and lazy American's have become.
 
2014-07-08 12:23:07 PM

neversubmit: Why not both?


Because statistical analysis shows a much much much stronger relationship with one factor than another, perhaps?

Honestly, I suspect the news brief is simplifying.  The "not diet" assertion fails to show up anywhere other than the headline, what the study focused on was a strong correlation between leisure time usage and obesity statistics en masse.

Other studies have also established similar trends in dietary change(particularly with respect to caloric beverages, and simple sugars),  and they don't explain the "not diet" assertion in any detail.

What I'm getting at is that this is some serious spin to make this study seem like it's broader in scope than it was.
 
2014-07-08 12:24:00 PM

liam76: Squat.

It looks silly (or straight up stupid) but it is great for you, and you can dit on the phone.


I used to stand up. I'd just lean over to type but I absolutely LOATHE sitting. I was also lucky that the copier and fax and supply room were all in different parts of my building so I had (valid) excuses to get up and walk around. I can't sit normally in a chair for more than a few minutes.
 
2014-07-08 12:26:22 PM

ikanreed: The "not diet" assertion fails to show up anywhere other than the headline, what the study focused on was a strong correlation between leisure time usage and obesity statistics en masse.


They said they didn't see a significant change in calorie consumption.
 
2014-07-08 12:26:57 PM

ikanreed: Now then, let's attack the causes of a lack of physical activity.

My best guess: busier schedules, and more available entertainment.


Consumables like Netflix and readily available junk food coupled with a culture that heaps hate on anything unusual (crossfit, paleo, etc.) and the ever expanding insistence that online video gaming is the best thing ever are all part of it.  So is the media constantly screaming about how everything outside your door will get you raped, mugged, kill you, etc.
 
2014-07-08 12:27:18 PM
A person gets fat by consuming more calories than they burn. (Don't let any of the morans tell you that somehow the human body violates the laws of thermodynamics. Calories are calories plain and simple.)

In today's modern society, it is quite easy to over consume on your calories. A person can easily stuff 4-5000 calories down their pie hole. It takes a amazing amount of physical exertion to burn through that many calories.

Unless you're running 10-15 miles a day, what you eat has more to do with your waist line than your exercise routine.
 
2014-07-08 12:27:39 PM

MrSteve007: I work in a fairly small office (two stories- 8,000 sq.ft.). Due to the terrain, the downstairs is at ground level from the north entrance, and the upper floor is at ground level at the south entrance. I have a couple, ummm larger, co-workers who park on one side, then walk all the way around the lot to make sure they don't have to take a single step up a stair to get in the building. And this isn't because of any disability or knee issue, they simply don't want to have to go up and down steps. Even during a regular work day, they won't take the stairwell to the other floor and will simply call people on the phone to have a conversation.

It's pathetic how fat and lazy American's have become.


I'm picturing an MC Escher drawing with morbidly obese people always walking down.
 
2014-07-08 12:34:20 PM

max_pooper: A person gets fat by consuming more calories than they burn. (Don't let any of the morans tell you that somehow the human body violates the laws of thermodynamics. Calories are calories plain and simple.)


It is more complicated than that.

It "costs" energy to turn food into fat, the process that are used to do this depend on the type of food you eat and how your body reacts to them.

Mor eimportantly how full you feel depends on more than calories consumed, so if you are looking at ease of losing/gaining weight you need to look beyond just calories.
 
2014-07-08 12:36:50 PM

Chariset: The addition of high-fructose corn syrup to anything and everything in that same time period surely had nothing to do with anything.


Calories per Gram:
Table Sugar (sucrose): 4
Honey: 4
HFCS (55 or 42): 4


Relative sweetness compared to Table Sugar:
Table Sugar (sucrose): 100% (obviously)
Honey: 100%
HFCS (55 or 42): 100%

Composition (%Glucose / %Fructose):
Table sugar (sucrose): 50/50
Honey: 52/48
HFCS(55): 45/55
HFCS(42): 42/58

Sources:
http://sweetsurprise.com/comparing-hfcs-and-other-sweeteners
http://www.ilfb.org/media/198195/final_hfcs_vs_sugar_2011.pdf
 
2014-07-08 12:37:08 PM

El Dudereno: I've always heard and seen that the way you look is about 80% what you stuff down your pie hole, and 20% how much you do.
Makes sense given that certain foods promote fat storage even in lower amounts and others don't unless you eat a ton.
Eat real food slowly until you're satisfied. Chew it well. Walk a lot.


Pretty much.

It's kind of disheartening when you look at how few calories you actually burn while exercising. While great for fitness and overall health, without watching what you eat, exercise often isn't enough.

The gist to losing weight is to burn more than you eat. I find gyms boring, so I find not having that slice of cake is preferable to spending 45 minutes on the treadmill. Only having a few fries at lunch, rather than the whole plate, is easier for me than more gym time.
 
2014-07-08 12:38:05 PM

ginandbacon: "The percentage of women reporting no physical activity jumped from 19 percent to 52 percent between 1988 and 2010; the percentage of inactive men rose from 11 percent to 43 percent over the same period."

Holee hefties that's insane.


that's what happens when you spread people out in suburbs, it creates an ecosystem of never needing to walk except from the car to a chair
 
2014-07-08 12:38:50 PM

max_pooper: Calories are calories plain and simple.)


Calories are kilocalories, actually.

:)
 
2014-07-08 12:39:29 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Consumables like Netflix and readily available junk food coupled with a culture that heaps hate on anything unusual (crossfit, paleo, etc.) and the ever expanding insistence that online video gaming is the best thing ever are all part of it. So is the media constantly screaming about how everything outside your door will get you raped, mugged, kill you, etc.


Oh yeah, people hate on "Paleo" because it's "weird" and not because it's pseudo-scientific garbage with no non-anecdotal evidence of being functional, and loads of bad ideas incorporated.

Not to mention that it has no bearing on what protohomonids and early humans actually ate.

The main advantage paleo actually gives is what any diet does, paying active attention to what you eat.  The main disadvantage is that it tends to short several important dietary elements, particularly the light metals and iodine, and that can be harmful or lethal to anyone who has a nutrient deficiency.  Don't pretend there's some conspiracy to discredit a bad idea here. 
If you want diet advice, go to a farking dietician.  Or at least well established plans with actual standards and measurable track records.

You can talk about the media all you want, though. I won't pretend to have specific information discrediting your assertions about that.  Or crossfit.  Or gaming.

But don't you throw a reasonable rejection of bullshiat as a cause for alarm.
 
2014-07-08 12:42:22 PM
Sorry, Total Farkers. You are lazy and fat because of you. Not an even food company.
 
2014-07-08 12:42:33 PM
Weight loss can be looked at as simply, calories in vs. calories out.  You need to use about 2500 more calories that you eat to lose a pound of fat.  You can burn 500 calories an hour with a Zone 2 workout.  It takes one poor food choice and about 10 minutes to put ingest about 500 calories.  Yes, being active is important to maintain your weight and health but what you eat plays a bigger role.
 
2014-07-08 12:42:52 PM

liam76: max_pooper: A person gets fat by consuming more calories than they burn. (Don't let any of the morans tell you that somehow the human body violates the laws of thermodynamics. Calories are calories plain and simple.)

It is more complicated than that.

It "costs" energy to turn food into fat, the process that are used to do this depend on the type of food you eat and how your body reacts to them.

Mor eimportantly how full you feel depends on more than calories consumed, so if you are looking at ease of losing/gaining weight you need to look beyond just calories.


No, it is not "more complicated than that." The human does not violate the laws of thermodynamics.
 
2014-07-08 12:44:07 PM
Well, seeing as how a "traditional" 'Murrican lunch of a Big Mac, large fries, and large Coke has 1300+ calories (and 53 grams of fat), an amount of calories which, for a 180-pound person, could be burned off with a mere two hours of nonstop running at 5 mph, then yes, in that respect, the average American's obesity is completely related to a lack of exercise.  I mean, running a mere 10 miles would completely burn off that McD's lunch!  If the average American would just run two marathons every day, he could eat Big Macs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, with a couple of Starbuck's venti Mocha Frappuccinos (500 calories, 17 grams of fat each) thrown in, and he would hardly gain an ounce!

Of course, he would still die from coronary artery disease anyway from clogging his blood vessels with about 400 mg of cholesterol and 200 grams of fat every day, but at least he wouldn't need an XXXXXXL casket.
 
2014-07-08 12:45:10 PM

rustypouch: El Dudereno: I've always heard and seen that the way you look is about 80% what you stuff down your pie hole, and 20% how much you do.
Makes sense given that certain foods promote fat storage even in lower amounts and others don't unless you eat a ton.
Eat real food slowly until you're satisfied. Chew it well. Walk a lot.

Pretty much.

It's kind of disheartening when you look at how few calories you actually burn while exercising. While great for fitness and overall health, without watching what you eat, exercise often isn't enough.

The gist to losing weight is to burn more than you eat. I find gyms boring, so I find not having that slice of cake is preferable to spending 45 minutes on the treadmill. Only having a few fries at lunch, rather than the whole plate, is easier for me than more gym time.


well because caloric intake is mostly dependent on your overall cumulative expenditure... exercising for 30min here or there and expecting things to drop dramatically is basically like trying to cheat and failing, not to mention exercise as we know it is more about damaging your body so it can then repair while you rest... there is no human equivalent of a gas-guzzler so-to-speak

realistically, simply spending more of your day standing and walking is enough to compensate, worrying about what you eat isn't really that important - only that you get what you do need and not binge on one source (meaning don't eat reuben's everyday)
 
2014-07-08 12:46:11 PM

grinding_journalist: ginandbacon: Holee hefties that's insane.

Two words:

Personal. Computing.

/tries to bike everyday
//hard when it's 95 with 92% humidity with a 103 index.


We get that weather here a lot in Michigan.  I don't mind riding in it too much but waiting at a light sucks.
 
2014-07-08 12:46:42 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Chariset: The addition of high-fructose corn syrup to anything and everything in that same time period surely had nothing to do with anything.

Calories per Gram:
Table Sugar (sucrose): 4
Honey: 4
HFCS (55 or 42): 4


Relative sweetness compared to Table Sugar:
Table Sugar (sucrose): 100% (obviously)
Honey: 100%
HFCS (55 or 42): 100%

Composition (%Glucose / %Fructose):
Table sugar (sucrose): 50/50
Honey: 52/48
HFCS(55): 45/55
HFCS(42): 42/58

Sources:
http://sweetsurprise.com/comparing-hfcs-and-other-sweeteners
http://www.ilfb.org/media/198195/final_hfcs_vs_sugar_2011.pdf


All well and good, but there is tremendous financial incentive to produce HFCS, and to over-sweeten every-damn-thing with it.  Try to avoid it.  I dare you.  And it is closely coupled to the magic formula of junk food; sugar-salt-fat.  That trifecta is dietary meth.
 
2014-07-08 12:48:55 PM

rustypouch: El Dudereno: I've always heard and seen that the way you look is about 80% what you stuff down your pie hole, and 20% how much you do.
Makes sense given that certain foods promote fat storage even in lower amounts and others don't unless you eat a ton.
Eat real food slowly until you're satisfied. Chew it well. Walk a lot.

Pretty much.

It's kind of disheartening when you look at how few calories you actually burn while exercising. While great for fitness and overall health, without watching what you eat, exercise often isn't enough.

The gist to losing weight is to burn more than you eat. I find gyms boring, so I find not having that slice of cake is preferable to spending 45 minutes on the treadmill. Only having a few fries at lunch, rather than the whole plate, is easier for me than more gym time.


Gym time is better spent lifting heavy things. Sprinting is also great to do once in a while. Both of those things will actually help you lose fat more than the hamster wheel stuff. You burn energy while lifting/sprinting, and if you lift heavy enough or run fast enough, your metabolism stays higher for several hours afterward. Additionally, lifting causes your muscles to burn through glycogen stores, which will be replaced the next time you eat carbs, so the energy is stored in your skeletal muscles instead of the fat cells.
The human body isn't the simple internal combustion engine the exercise and diet food industries want us to think it is.
Calories in - calories out is the basic equation, but there are a lot of nuances to it. If it really was that simple, there would be no need for an entire industry to promote weight loss.
 
2014-07-08 12:48:57 PM

Nemo's Brother: Sorry, Total Farkers. You are lazy and fat because of you. Not an even food company.


And you're continuing to pretend that huge trends across an entire population has nothing to do with some social change, and because you are personally responsible, there's no need to understand the bigger picture , and what leads people to be different than 40 years ago?

I mean, is that it?

Do you just value ignorance?

Do you just like blaming people for things?

I mean.  We all get the basic premise of being responsible for taking care of yourself.  But you seem to treat that as an end point where no further thought could possibly be demanded.  I'd rather gain 100 pounds than engage in your brand of willful ignorance of the world.

//I'm not going to do either, just to keep that clear.
 
2014-07-08 12:51:17 PM

Muta: grinding_journalist: ginandbacon: Holee hefties that's insane.

Two words:

Personal. Computing.

/tries to bike everyday
//hard when it's 95 with 92% humidity with a 103 index.

We get that weather here a lot in Michigan.  I don't mind riding in it too much but waiting at a light sucks.


Yeah, it's not humid here, but we get a lot of 100+ degree days here in the summertime.  I try to bike to and from work at least a couple of days a week, and I really don't mind biking when it's that hot, because the breeze from riding my bike actually makes me feel a lot cooler than just standing there.  I refuse to run in those temperatures, though--or not more than a couple of blocks, anyway--but biking in hot weather isn't that bad at all.  Though I may feel differently about it if we ever had high humidity here.
 
2014-07-08 12:51:36 PM

max_pooper: liam76: max_pooper: A person gets fat by consuming more calories than they burn. (Don't let any of the morans tell you that somehow the human body violates the laws of thermodynamics. Calories are calories plain and simple.)

It is more complicated than that.

It "costs" energy to turn food into fat, the process that are used to do this depend on the type of food you eat and how your body reacts to them.

Mor eimportantly how full you feel depends on more than calories consumed, so if you are looking at ease of losing/gaining weight you need to look beyond just calories.

No, it is not "more complicated than that." The human does not violate the laws of thermodynamics.


Yeah, you need to get beyond the first law.

You need to understand that a "calorie" in your food isn't magically transferred to a "calorie" of fat with a constant rate of entropy that isn't dependent on the type of food.

You still need to understand the mechanics of weight gain go hand in hand with satiety which is influenced by more than calories. So even if we could ignore the second law of thermodynamics as you tried to do, your advice is useless when t comes down to getting peopel to eat less.
 
2014-07-08 12:52:57 PM

ikanreed: Smeggy Smurf: Consumables like Netflix and readily available junk food coupled with a culture that heaps hate on anything unusual (crossfit, paleo, etc.) and the ever expanding insistence that online video gaming is the best thing ever are all part of it. So is the media constantly screaming about how everything outside your door will get you raped, mugged, kill you, etc.

Oh yeah, people hate on "Paleo" because it's "weird" and not because it's pseudo-scientific garbage with no non-anecdotal evidence of being functional, and loads of bad ideas incorporated.

Not to mention that it has no bearing on what protohomonids and early humans actually ate.

The main advantage paleo actually gives is what any diet does, paying active attention to what you eat.  The main disadvantage is that it tends to short several important dietary elements, particularly the light metals and iodine, and that can be harmful or lethal to anyone who has a nutrient deficiency.  Don't pretend there's some conspiracy to discredit a bad idea here. 
If you want diet advice, go to a farking dietician.  Or at least well established plans with actual standards and measurable track records.

You can talk about the media all you want, though. I won't pretend to have specific information discrediting your assertions about that.  Or crossfit.  Or gaming.

But don't you throw a reasonable rejection of bullshiat as a cause for alarm.


I eat what is basically a paleo diet. Where am I not getting my minerals or iodine?

There are lots of iterations of Paleo out there too, so which ones do you see as lacking?
Personally, I think the name should be changed to "eat real food not made from grain or dairy" so as to get rid of the whole caveman thing. But that's kind of clunky.
 
2014-07-08 12:53:05 PM

Laobaojun: ArcadianRefugee: Chariset: The addition of high-fructose corn syrup to anything and everything in that same time period surely had nothing to do with anything.

Calories per Gram:
Table Sugar (sucrose): 4
Honey: 4
HFCS (55 or 42): 4


Relative sweetness compared to Table Sugar:
Table Sugar (sucrose): 100% (obviously)
Honey: 100%
HFCS (55 or 42): 100%

Composition (%Glucose / %Fructose):
Table sugar (sucrose): 50/50
Honey: 52/48
HFCS(55): 45/55
HFCS(42): 42/58

Sources:
http://sweetsurprise.com/comparing-hfcs-and-other-sweeteners
http://www.ilfb.org/media/198195/final_hfcs_vs_sugar_2011.pdf

All well and good, but there is tremendous financial incentive to produce HFCS, and to over-sweeten every-damn-thing with it.  Try to avoid it.  I dare you.  And it is closely coupled to the magic formula of junk food; sugar-salt-fat.  That trifecta is dietary meth.


True, but overuse of a product doesn't make the product evil. If they used "real sugar" instead of HFCS, they'd still use a shiat-ton of it if they wanted to maintain the flavor.

/you think it's hard to avoid HFCS? try to avoid salt
/i have to try or my doctor biatches at me
/and i'll probably die sooner rather than later
/at least my doctor will stop biatching at me
 
2014-07-08 12:54:30 PM

ikanreed: Nemo's Brother: Sorry, Total Farkers. You are lazy and fat because of you. Not an even food company.

And you're continuing to pretend that huge trends across an entire population has nothing to do with some social change, and because you are personally responsible, there's no need to understand the bigger picture , and what leads people to be different than 40 years ago?

I mean, is that it?

Do you just value ignorance?

Do you just like blaming people for things?

I mean.  We all get the basic premise of being responsible for taking care of yourself.  But you seem to treat that as an end point where no further thought could possibly be demanded.  I'd rather gain 100 pounds than engage in your brand of willful ignorance of the world.

//I'm not going to do either, just to keep that clear.


It is no coincidence that things have gotten worse in this country as far as obesity, alcohol and drug use go, once they were labeled as diseases.  I am tired of everyone always insisting on being a victim.  I'm sorry you eat too much. It is not an evil plot by the food companies, it is your lack of will power. I'm sorry you are addicted to prescription drugs or drink too much. Learn some control and man up.  Get help if you need to, but realize that you are the reason for your addictions/self-destructive behavior and only you can get your way out of it.

Not the government, not Oprah, not higher taxes on corporation. You.
 
2014-07-08 12:56:36 PM

max_pooper: A person gets fat by consuming more calories than they burn. (Don't let any of the morans tell you that somehow the human body violates the laws of thermodynamics. Calories are calories plain and simple.)


If you are going to claim to be using thermodynamics, please learn some. Energy out is actually calories in your poop. No-one's body is 100% efficient. Poop has so many latent calories in it that it can be burned as a fuel. You lose weight by burning and pooping out more than you take in, but you can consume more than you burn and still not get fat.
 
2014-07-08 12:57:33 PM

ikanreed: Smeggy Smurf: Consumables like Netflix and readily available junk food coupled with a culture that heaps hate on anything unusual (crossfit, paleo, etc.) and the ever expanding insistence that online video gaming is the best thing ever are all part of it. So is the media constantly screaming about how everything outside your door will get you raped, mugged, kill you, etc.

Oh yeah, people hate on "Paleo" because it's "weird" and not because it's pseudo-scientific garbage with no non-anecdotal evidence of being functional, and loads of bad ideas incorporated.

Not to mention that it has no bearing on what protohomonids and early humans actually ate.

The main advantage paleo actually gives is what any diet does, paying active attention to what you eat.  The main disadvantage is that it tends to short several important dietary elements, particularly the light metals and iodine, and that can be harmful or lethal to anyone who has a nutrient deficiency.  Don't pretend there's some conspiracy to discredit a bad idea here. 
If you want diet advice, go to a farking dietician.  Or at least well established plans with actual standards and measurable track records.

You can talk about the media all you want, though. I won't pretend to have specific information discrediting your assertions about that.  Or crossfit.  Or gaming.

But don't you throw a reasonable rejection of bullshiat as a cause for alarm.


Make sure it is a registered dietician, and NOT a nutritionist.  Those claiming to be nutritionists, in my experience, are quacks of the highest order.
 
2014-07-08 01:01:02 PM
Caloric intake versus caloric expenditure.  Whodathunk it would have been so simple?
 
2014-07-08 01:02:04 PM

grinding_journalist: ginandbacon: Holee hefties that's insane.

Two words:

Personal. Computing.

/tries to bike everyday
//hard when it's 95 with 92% humidity with a 103 index.


I don't notice the heat that much when I'm cycling.  Once I stop, it's hell.
 
2014-07-08 01:08:52 PM

Smeggy Smurf: coupled with a culture that heaps hate on anything unusual (crossfit, paleo, etc.)


Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, people making fun of ridiculous, completely baseless diets are the reason people are fat. Christ what a stupid thing to say.
 
2014-07-08 01:10:27 PM
I definitely need more exercise because I'm in IT so I sit around quite a bit at work.  I'm in a 5 story building so I take the stairs whenever I can (almost all the time).  I also walk all the way up to the 5th floor in the stairwell(s) at least once a day.

/wants to get with friends to do a weekly basketball game or something similar
//other than that, it's playing TF2 and fragging some peeps!
 
2014-07-08 01:12:16 PM
I have at least a few people that I know of that are HUGE into Juice Plus.

JUICE PLUS WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE!  My life is so much better now that I've been taking Juice Plus!

/it seems like a cult...
 
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