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(Boing Boing)   The British tried to build a two-million ton aircraft carrier out of ice during the Second World War. Fortunately, someone brought a camera   (boingboing.net) divider line 73
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2014-07-08 01:20:19 PM  
And took one picture?
 
2014-07-08 02:38:23 PM  
This news is so old it has hoarfrost and a Captain Americacicle on it.
 
2014-07-08 02:39:12 PM  
It's a farking podcast.  How are they showing pictures in the podcast?

Who greenlit this turd?
 
2014-07-08 02:39:56 PM  
Mythbusters covered this kind of ship years ago. They even built a working speedboat out of newspapers in ice.
 
2014-07-08 02:40:10 PM  
Unfortunately, somebody also thought podcasting this was a good idea.
 
2014-07-08 02:40:54 PM  
It failed when they couldn't get enough snow tires for the planes.
 
2014-07-08 02:41:14 PM  
Out of curiosity, as a Liter, I'm unaware of many Fark traditions- does the aircraft-carrier-made-of-ice story get recycled here seasonally, or via some calendar method?
 
2014-07-08 02:41:54 PM  

Rickj: It's a farking podcast.  How are they showing pictures in the podcast?

Who greenlit this turd?


They could have at least kept with the spirit of Repeat Day and greenlit one of the several articles we've already had here.
 
2014-07-08 02:42:33 PM  
This was an episode on Myth Busters too I believe.
 
2014-07-08 02:42:38 PM  
c1.staticflickr.com

repeating shiat like this is why Fark is going to shiat
 
2014-07-08 02:42:45 PM  
This thread is useless with only one pic!

Picture of the "ship":

media.boingboing.net
 
2014-07-08 02:43:42 PM  
There was a book published about strange ideas/weapons of WW2 and this was in it...7 years ago.
 
2014-07-08 02:45:07 PM  
This is the one where Clint Eastwood steals the plane from the Russians, right?

www.globalsecurity.org
 
2014-07-08 02:45:09 PM  
Isn't Boing Boing a (Featured Partner)? That would explain it.
 
2014-07-08 02:45:31 PM  
www.todayifoundout.com
 
2014-07-08 02:45:55 PM  

FirstTimeLongTime: There was a book published about strange ideas/weapons of WW2 and this was in it...7 years ago.


Did they talk about the incendiary bats the US wanted to use against Japan?
 
2014-07-08 02:46:24 PM  
Not really news. Saw documentaries on this on the History Channel many years ago, before History Channel became a round-the-clock festival of Pawn Stars suckitude.

Pykrete, a mixture of sawdust or wood pulp and ice is kind of like arctic adobe.
 
2014-07-08 02:48:33 PM  

Superjew: Unfortunately, somebody also thought podcasting this was a good idea.


Radio about paint chips.
 
2014-07-08 02:49:33 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Not really news. Saw documentaries on this on the History Channel many years ago, before History Channel became a round-the-clock festival of Pawn Stars suckitude.

Pykrete, a mixture of sawdust or wood pulp and ice is kind of like arctic adobe.


Props for name-dropping Pykrete. Next up, Mulberry harbours.
 
2014-07-08 02:49:42 PM  
I understand they're still working on that idea of Ice Ships... with a little help from gobal warming.

growabrain.typepad.com
 
2014-07-08 02:51:25 PM  

Valiente: Superjew: Unfortunately, somebody also thought podcasting this was a good idea.

Radio about paint chips.


More like radio by people who ate paint chips as a kid.
 
2014-07-08 02:52:34 PM  
...because Drew needs beer money.
 
2014-07-08 02:52:34 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: History Channel became a round-the-clock festival of Pawn Stars suckitude.


Hey, it's not JUST Pawn Stars. There's also Ice Road Truckers, American Pickers, and lots of 'people who live out in the boonies' shows. The Duck one isn't History Channel, though. That one's A& E, I think.
 
2014-07-08 02:53:47 PM  
Great, another article about the pykrete aircraft carrier.
 
2014-07-08 02:54:59 PM  
The photo looks more like ice harvesting for iceboxes then anything.
 
2014-07-08 02:55:19 PM  

qorkfiend: FirstTimeLongTime: There was a book published about strange ideas/weapons of WW2 and this was in it...7 years ago.

Did they talk about the incendiary bats the US wanted to use against Japan?


Those were apparently disturbingly effective in tests but the project was terminated after the atom bomb project looked promising.
 
2014-07-08 02:55:59 PM  
There is a pretty good discussion of this in a book called "My Tank Is Fight".  It's all about crazy WWII stuff.  And there was a lot of insanity in there.
 
2014-07-08 02:58:09 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-08 02:58:49 PM  

dittybopper: Valiente: Superjew: Unfortunately, somebody also thought podcasting this was a good idea.

Radio about paint chips.

More like radio by people who ate paint chips as a kid.


www.heydullblog.com

MMMMMMM, wall candy.
 
2014-07-08 03:00:52 PM  
Some of us idiots out in Gt Yonder never heard of pykrete aircraft carrier. Not spend enuf time watching History Channel  & related flights of semi fancy eh? Or reading related books ...
 
2014-07-08 03:01:48 PM  

FirstTimeLongTime: There was a book published about strange ideas/weapons of WW2 and this was in it...7 years ago.


There's still a lot of Tippy Top Toppy secret stuff being released these days.

I just read Flames in the Field (paperback came out in 2010). It covers a lot of newish material on SOE, particularly the Englandspiel corruption of numerous spy networks in France. A lot of the material it covers didn't come out until fairly recently.

Apparently, there isn't much a British politician won't sell down the river.
 
2014-07-08 03:02:43 PM  

cretinbob: repeating shiat like this is why Fark is going to shiat


Well no. It's not *the* reason. There are several other reasons as well.
 
2014-07-08 03:03:14 PM  

dittybopper: Valiente: Superjew: Unfortunately, somebody also thought podcasting this was a good idea.

Radio about paint chips.

More like radio by people who ate paint chips as a kid.


Betcha can't just eat wwwwwwhhhhhaaaaa....aaa...ah...
 
2014-07-08 03:05:20 PM  

Brick-House: I understand they're still working on that idea of Ice Ships... with a little help from gobal warming.


Oh... *that* can't be good for a boat.
 
2014-07-08 03:05:42 PM  
fail.brm.sk
 
2014-07-08 03:06:28 PM  

ned4spd8874: This thread is useless with only one pic!

Picture of the "ship":

[media.boingboing.net image 850x478]


So ... a guy with a pick axe and a couple of blocks of ice?  Impressive!
 
WGJ
2014-07-08 03:08:01 PM  
zombo.com is more interesting that that.
 
2014-07-08 03:08:17 PM  

Valiente: Danger Avoid Death: Not really news. Saw documentaries on this on the History Channel many years ago, before History Channel became a round-the-clock festival of Pawn Stars suckitude.

Pykrete, a mixture of sawdust or wood pulp and ice is kind of like arctic adobe.

Props for name-dropping Pykrete. Next up, Mulberry harbours.


I didn't listen to the 30-minute radio clip. Did they not mention pykrete? Strange.

And Mulberry harbours actually worked for a time; whereas one was destroyed in a storm shortly after construction, the other was used for 6 months, until the Allies took Antwerp, making it unnecessary.
 
2014-07-08 03:11:16 PM  
I believe Mythbusters covered this too
 
2014-07-08 03:11:17 PM  
Everyone knows about this. It's the true story upon which Frozen was based. Duh.
 
2014-07-08 03:18:17 PM  
Did myth-busters cover this?
 
2014-07-08 03:19:03 PM  

ned4spd8874: Picture of the "ship":

media.boingboing.net


Reminds me of

img.fark.net
 
2014-07-08 03:21:38 PM  

ned4spd8874: This thread is useless with only one pic!

Picture of the "ship":

[media.boingboing.net image 850x478]


Some assembly required.
 
2014-07-08 03:33:13 PM  

fireclown: There is a pretty good discussion of this in a book called "My Tank Is Fight".  It's all about crazy WWII stuff.  And there was a lot of insanity in there.


From a certain perspective.
Desperate times call for desperate measures, and one man's crazy idea to build a rocket big enough to fly from france to london only makes perfect sense after a few decades of refinement.

img.fark.net
The floating airstrip is a thing we still do, and casting it out of pykrete is sensible when you need a mega carrier and don't have an ounce of metal to spare.
If they deployed the technology we might still be doing it.

/Alot of the super tank stuff was poorly thought out, I'll admit.
/Then again it might have become the future of warfare. Just needed that finishing touch.
/I mean, who the hell thought making a giant floating fortress would have caught on in the first place.
 
2014-07-08 03:41:05 PM  

laulaja: Some of us idiots out in Gt Yonder never heard of pykrete aircraft carrier. Not spend enuf time watching History Channel  & related flights of semi fancy eh? Or reading related books ...



WARNING: Wall of text/nerdgasm ahead...

They had an article on this back on 2000 or 2001 in Military History Magazine.  The designer/chief advocate was an eccentric British fellow named Geoffrey Pyke.  Early in WWII, he tried to convince the RN to build aircraft carriers out of pykrete so they could be both extremely large and virtually unsinkable (being made out of hollowed-out ice/sawdust armor rather than a relatively thin-walled steel hull).  From the magazine article, developement was slow, and then abandoned, because allied air and naval superiority, the incease in conventional shipbuilding, and the overall strategic weakness of axis air and naval forces later in the war rendered the concept of pykrete warships obsolete.

Although there was no theoretical limit to the size of the pykrete carriers, the sheer mass of the carriers meant there was no way a conventional screw and prop shaft could propel them.  They would've needed huge, ducted aircraft props mounted on the deck like a siebel ferry, or maybe a bank of 1st-generation jet engines.  Also, operating in the Atlantic meant that a huge, complicated network of refrigeration pipes, compressors and coolant fluid tanks would be needed to keep the ship from getting all melty.  Also-also, the ice, even when frozen, tended to warp and bend under stress over time.  Portions of the carrier would've required "defrosting" and "respawning" (or whatever the fark you would call it) to keep the flight deck flat for flight operations.

Would make a nice mid-ocean evil lair, though.  What about it, Drew?  Can we get a kick-starter fund together and artificially generate the Republic of Farkistan as a soveriegn, Pykrete island?
 
2014-07-08 03:48:44 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: FirstTimeLongTime: There was a book published about strange ideas/weapons of WW2 and this was in it...7 years ago.

There's still a lot of Tippy Top Toppy secret stuff being released these days.

I just read Flames in the Field (paperback came out in 2010). It covers a lot of newish material on SOE, particularly the Englandspiel corruption of numerous spy networks in France Holland.  A lot of the material it covers didn't come out until fairly recently.

Apparently, there isn't much a British politician won't sell down the river.


FTFY.  Operation Nordpol/Englandspiel happened in Holland, not France.

I'm actually considering building a Whaddon Mark VII Paraset like SOE agents used to use.  A bunch of hams have built working reproductions:

www.radiomilitari.com
 
2014-07-08 03:49:55 PM  

way south: fireclown: There is a pretty good discussion of this in a book called "My Tank Is Fight".  It's all about crazy WWII stuff.  And there was a lot of insanity in there.

From a certain perspective.
Desperate times call for desperate measures, and one man's crazy idea to build a rocket big enough to fly from france to london only makes perfect sense after a few decades of refinement.

[img.fark.net image 640x360]
The floating airstrip is a thing we still do, and casting it out of pykrete is sensible when you need a mega carrier and don't have an ounce of metal to spare.
If they deployed the technology we might still be doing it.

/Alot of the super tank stuff was poorly thought out, I'll admit.
/Then again it might have become the future of warfare. Just needed that finishing touch.
/I mean, who the hell thought making a giant floating fortress would have caught on in the first place.


www.fantastic-plastic.com
This, despite it being an early VTOL attempt, will forever remain crazy as all get out.
 
2014-07-08 03:57:22 PM  

Tobin_Lam: Isn't Boing Boing a (Featured Partner)? That would explain it.


another reason Fark is  going into the shiiter and this repeat hasn't been pulled
 
2014-07-08 03:58:12 PM  

brimed03: cretinbob: repeating shiat like this is why Fark is going to shiat

Well no. It's not *the* reason. There are several other reasons as well.


well, yeah.

Should we make a list?
 
2014-07-08 04:14:38 PM  
Let me know when it flies.

www.animationsource.org
 
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