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(Ars Technica)   Good news on the global warming front as scientists announce Earth has lived through it before. The bad news is last time the oceans rose 18 feet. So unless you're a plebe that can't afford vast ocean front property, you're screwed   (arstechnica.com ) divider line
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2014-07-08 01:51:20 PM  
Do I want ocean front property if the oceans are rising 18'?  I'll take something a little more inland that will become ocean front.
 
2014-07-08 02:00:10 PM  

EvilEgg: Do I want ocean front property if the oceans are rising 18'?  I'll take something a little more inland that will become ocean front.


I mis-read the headline like you at first. But subby is saying UNLESS you ARE a plebe, you're screwed.
 
2014-07-08 02:24:12 PM  
This is just the shot in the arm my artisinal stiltworks needs to take it to the next level!
 
2014-07-08 02:28:07 PM  

jaylectricity: EvilEgg: Do I want ocean front property if the oceans are rising 18'?  I'll take something a little more inland that will become ocean front.

I mis-read the headline like you at first. But subby is saying UNLESS you ARE a plebe, you're screwed.


Yeah, took me a few tries at it as well.

So, good news then. We're about 180 miles from the coast. So any major increase will only make the drive that much better.
/plus it will knock a few counties off the map, making my job a bit easier.
 
2014-07-08 02:30:38 PM  
about 10 miles straight inland from the Pacific.
So I'm all set.

/And over 800 feet up.
 
2014-07-08 02:33:24 PM  
I believe geologists more than climatologists, they read what happened in the past, others are just guessing then changing data readings to make them right.
 
2014-07-08 02:34:20 PM  
Otisburg?
 
2014-07-08 02:39:59 PM  
Didn't the Bush family buy a bunch of property way up in the mountains of Peru? Could swear I read that someplace.
 
2014-07-08 02:51:43 PM  
I bet a lot of people already have beachfront property, but just don't know it yet.
 
2014-07-08 02:56:16 PM  
Florida gone is a feature, subby.
 
2014-07-08 03:02:15 PM  
The Earth will be just fine, it's the people that are farked. (I think George Carlin said that)
 
2014-07-08 03:09:00 PM  
Let's see you stop my plan now, Superman!

/ Otisville?
 
2014-07-08 03:12:52 PM  
6m? Based on an interglacial with only moderately elevated insolation (and GHG levels below present, much less the future), and people are worried that's where we headed?

That's adorable.

We're already looking at ~20m of eventual sea level rise at current CO2 levels unless we find a way to pull some carbon back out of the air (e.g. Miller et al., 2012; Foster and Rohling, 2013).
 
2014-07-08 03:15:11 PM  

steamingpile: I believe geologists more than climatologists, they read what happened in the past, others are just guessing then changing data readings to make them right.


Ice cores anyone?
 
2014-07-08 03:15:48 PM  

phenn: Didn't the Bush family buy a bunch of property way up in the mountains of Peru? Could swear I read that someplace.


You are right about it being part of South America.  I think it was Uruguay.
 
2014-07-08 03:16:21 PM  
quickly - bring the sponges to the coast!
 
2014-07-08 03:27:46 PM  
Lex Luthor cackles as he signs the deed on his inland properties.
 
2014-07-08 03:32:09 PM  
I laugh at you all from my Saskatchewan home.
 
2014-07-08 03:37:20 PM  
Actually, that gets rid of a lot of bad places on the map and think of all the tidal power plants we can build. Can we hurry this along?
 
2014-07-08 03:38:50 PM  
If only they'd had carbon taxes back then, the evil industrialists couldn't have killed the entire planet forever with their evil CO2 emissions. Oh well. Now we don't have a planet anymore, just like we no longer have any polar ice caps. :( Damn you, global climate warming change!
 
2014-07-08 04:39:30 PM  
Wow, the Koch brothers were around 400,000 years ago.  Who knew?
 
2014-07-08 04:55:48 PM  

phenn: Didn't the Bush family buy a bunch of property way up in the mountains of Peru? Could swear I read that someplace.



I don't know but if you repeat it enough times, people will believe it and it won't matter if they actually did.
 
2014-07-08 06:54:34 PM  

Jon Snow: 6m? Based on an interglacial with only moderately elevated insolation (and GHG levels below present, much less the future), and people are worried that's where we headed?

That's adorable.

We're already looking at ~20m of eventual sea level rise at current CO2 levels unless we find a way to pull some carbon back out of the air (e.g. Miller et al., 2012; Foster and Rohling, 2013).


I live 200m above sea level.

Wake me when things get interesting.
 
2014-07-08 07:35:17 PM  

steamingpile: I believe geologists more than climatologists, they read what happened in the past, others are just guessing then changing data readings to make them right.


http://www.geosociety.org/positions/position10.htm
 
2014-07-08 07:38:31 PM  

untaken_name: If only they'd had carbon taxes back then, the evil industrialists couldn't have killed the entire planet forever with their evil CO2 emissions. Oh well. Now we don't have a planet anymore, just like we no longer have any polar ice caps. :( Damn you, global climate warming change!


GIS for "Strawman Army"

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2014-07-08 07:41:00 PM  

notto: steamingpile: I believe geologists more than climatologists, they read what happened in the past, others are just guessing then changing data readings to make them right.

http://www.geosociety.org/positions/position10.htm


Yeah I know most take a wait and see attitude, not the "blow up all gas burning entities" most shout.

Warming may be man made, its probably not since its shown to have changed without us in the past so why the outrage?

Let's go back to stopping pollution and garbage, find rational middle ground instead of going straight to shutting shiat down because a few don't like it.
 
2014-07-08 07:44:12 PM  

steamingpile: notto: steamingpile: I believe geologists more than climatologists, they read what happened in the past, others are just guessing then changing data readings to make them right.

Warming may be man made, its probably not since its shown to have changed without us in the past so why the outrage?



So, you don't believe geologists more than climatologists.  Thanks for clarifying.
 
2014-07-08 08:02:30 PM  

JNowe: phenn: Didn't the Bush family buy a bunch of property way up in the mountains of Peru? Could swear I read that someplace.


I don't know but if you repeat it enough times, people will believe it and it won't matter if they actually did.


Heh.....I was eating dinner one evening next to a table of sovereign citizen expats who managed string together every damn conspiracy out there, including that one.  I think that one was somehow linked to water supplies.
 
2014-07-08 08:35:40 PM  

steamingpile: Warming may be man made, its probably not since its shown to have changed without us in the past so why the outrage?


Do you understand that we have this stuff called physics? And it lets us discriminate between natural and man-made drivers of warming?

We can show the change in the vertical thermal structure of the atmosphere that is a unique fingerprint of greenhouse warming. We can show the isotopic geochemical signature of fossil fuels in the carbon accumulating in the atmosphere and ocean. And so on.

This isn't difficult.
 
2014-07-08 09:44:09 PM  

phenn: Didn't the Bush family buy a bunch of property way up in the mountains of Peru? Could swear I read that someplace.


You DO know how high 18' is, right?
 
2014-07-08 10:13:10 PM  

The6502Man: phenn: Didn't the Bush family buy a bunch of property way up in the mountains of Peru? Could swear I read that someplace.

You DO know how high 18' is, right?


i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-07-09 12:44:05 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Jon Snow: 6m? Based on an interglacial with only moderately elevated insolation (and GHG levels below present, much less the future), and people are worried that's where we headed?

That's adorable.

We're already looking at ~20m of eventual sea level rise at current CO2 levels unless we find a way to pull some carbon back out of the air (e.g. Miller et al., 2012; Foster and Rohling, 2013).

I live 200m above sea level.

Wake me when things get interesting.


When all the displaced masses coming knocking, it will get plenty interesting.
 
2014-07-10 02:16:28 AM  

MLWS: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Jon Snow: 6m? Based on an interglacial with only moderately elevated insolation (and GHG levels below present, much less the future), and people are worried that's where we headed?

That's adorable.

We're already looking at ~20m of eventual sea level rise at current CO2 levels unless we find a way to pull some carbon back out of the air (e.g. Miller et al., 2012; Foster and Rohling, 2013).

I live 200m above sea level.

Wake me when things get interesting.

When all the displaced masses coming knocking, it will get plenty interesting.


That's what the doomsday bunker and ammunition are for, my friend. So I can displace masses back off my land with some mass displacement.
 
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