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(Daily Mail)   Woman aims to prove dating is unnatural by going out with 98 men in 9 months, only seems to prove that dating her is unnatural   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 58
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2014-07-08 06:33:47 AM
Relationship expert Susan Winter

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2014-07-08 08:20:28 AM
Dating is the required presentational stage for a possible future interlude. For this very reason, I chafe at having to be "on point." I rail at the notion of being appealing, engaging and alluring.

So you deliberately made an effort to be a cold biatch and you're surprised the dates didn't go well.

Someone a third of your age might be able to get away with that, but...
 
2014-07-08 08:25:10 AM
I really didn't understand WTF this woman was getting at. Also she acts like dating is like being on the Bachelor, and out of any random bunch of people, you can find true love if you just have enough warm bodies around you. I bet she watches that show too, and laughs at it, because she's smarter than all of them.
 
2014-07-08 08:35:34 AM
Who the hell name drops famous friends?

Did she date exclusively executives from her own company or something?
 
2014-07-08 08:41:10 AM

doglover: Who the hell name drops famous friends?

Did she date exclusively executives from her own company or something?


I was just talking about this the other night with my friends, James Best (aka Sheriff Roscoe P Coltrane from the Dukes of Hazzard) and best selling author Judy Blume.

We decided that no one name drops their famous friends.
 
2014-07-08 08:46:27 AM
Ms Winter emphasizes that she uses 'dating' in the traditional sense of the word, otherwise known as courtship, meaning she did not sleep with all 98 men.

Soooo 97 then?
 
2014-07-08 09:11:12 AM

FirstNationalBastard: doglover: Who the hell name drops famous friends?

Did she date exclusively executives from her own company or something?

I was just talking about this the other night with my friends, James Best (aka Sheriff Roscoe P Coltrane from the Dukes of Hazzard) and best selling author Judy Blume.

We decided that no one name drops their famous friends.


Okay, they do it all the time, but not on dates.

If you name drop on a date, it's called "being a wingman" all you'll only get your famous friend more laid.
 
2014-07-08 09:36:45 AM

scottydoesntknow: Ms Winter emphasizes that she uses 'dating' in the traditional sense of the word, otherwise known as courtship, meaning she did not sleep with all 98 men.

Soooo 97 then?


In a row?
 
2014-07-08 09:39:58 AM
If I was a 50-something year old woman in Manhattan I'd probably hate dating too.
 
2014-07-08 09:41:41 AM
                      I went out with 98 men in nine months

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2014-07-08 09:44:59 AM

doglover: Who the hell name drops famous friends?

Did she date exclusively executives from her own company or something?


A lot of people seriously stretch the definition of 'friend' when they name drop to include things like "a business associate of a friend of a friend I met at a party once".
 
2014-07-08 09:46:44 AM
Yep.  Hot dog in a *FLAMING HOT* *BARK! BARK! BARK! BARK!* HALLWAY!  ;)

Yeah, run away ;)
 
2014-07-08 09:46:46 AM
Someone doesn't understand the scientific process very well.  Save your conclusions (judgements) until the end.  She just went into it to reinforce her already slanted bias.

In the end, she demonstrated nothing other than her own ignorance.  Whether she was right or wrong in her initial hypothesis is irrelevant.
 
2014-07-08 09:47:24 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I went out with 98 men in nine months

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Nice graphic, by the way ;)
 
2014-07-08 09:51:42 AM
I've heard of "British hot".

She's "British mediocre".
 
2014-07-08 09:51:56 AM
It's a quote from "Mad Men", but it rings true:  "If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation".

I think a lot of people really just expect things to come to them.  She could have found an interest point in at least one of those guys and asked questions and been interested.  If two people put no effort forth during a date, then yeah, it's going to be superficial and a waste of time.  Dating requires effort.  Getting to know someone requires effort.  That effort is exactly what is natural and organic like she so desires.  People are social creatures that try to find ways to connect.  I highly doubt she did in any way.
 
2014-07-08 10:06:07 AM
What is the common factor in every bad relationship you have been in? 

1)  Do you know what causes self-inflicted injuries?
2)  Once 1) is answered correctly, do you understand how to prevent self-inflicted injuries?
3)  If self-inflicted injuries continue after steps 1) and 2), it is because you like them.  Either stop liking them, or stop complaining about them.
 
2014-07-08 10:20:39 AM
What a rag, she was just scoring free dinners and drinks.
 
2014-07-08 10:25:08 AM

Bob Dolemite: It's a quote from "Mad Men", but it rings true: "If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation".


Laobaojun: What is the common factor in every bad relationship you have been in?


If you wake up in the morning and meet an asshole, you met an asshole. If everyone you meet all day are assholes, YOU'RE the asshole.

What you get out of a relationship is in proportion to what you put in (giggity). It's not rocket surgery.
 
2014-07-08 10:33:53 AM

Dr Dreidel: Bob Dolemite: It's a quote from "Mad Men", but it rings true: "If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation".

Laobaojun: What is the common factor in every bad relationship you have been in?

If you wake up in the morning and meet an asshole, you met an asshole. If everyone you meet all day are assholes, YOU'RE the asshole.

What you get out of a relationship is in proportion to what you put in (giggity). It's not rocket surgery.


It's not MY fault everyone has it out for ME, THEY are the problem.
 
2014-07-08 10:35:31 AM
Lady, I don't even do things I like 98 times in 9 months.
 
2014-07-08 10:43:08 AM

James Rieper: Lady, I don't even do things I like 98 times in 9 months.


Except masturbation.
 
2014-07-08 10:43:37 AM

Dr Dreidel: If you wake up in the morning and meet an asshole, you met an asshole. If everyone you meet all day are assholes, YOU'RE the asshole


perfect.

so she went on dates with 98 men and all of them were awful experiences... pot, kettle.
 
2014-07-08 10:44:46 AM
Stop wearing clothes and eating processed food then too, dumb coont.
 
2014-07-08 10:48:32 AM

Beeblebrox: James Rieper: Lady, I don't even do things I like 98 times in 9 months.

Except masturbation.


Yeah, then it's 98 times in 9 days.
 
2014-07-08 10:52:22 AM
Ya...'this sucks and I'm going to do everything in my power to prove it' isn't scientific.
 
2014-07-08 10:52:41 AM
If you read the HuffPo article linked in the linked article you can see where the problem is:  her.  She admits that she really didn't care, and/or try on many of these dates.  She basically wasted the time (and money) of 98 saps to prove (to herself) the conclusion she was going to come to anyway.

Dating doesn't work for her because she doesn't want to work at it.  One of the biggest reasons why marriages fall apart is people think that the work that goes into a relationship ends the moment you say "I do".  Dating, like all things in relationships require effort.  The fact that non of her dates led to anything is on her.  If you go into something expecting (hell, hoping) that it will fail it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The thing I find hardest to swallow about the whole thing is that she had 98 dates in 9 months.  These were not dates she sought out, but just her accepting everyone who asked her out.  That means she had a date a little more than every three days.  If she was drop dead gorgeous I would still find that pace hard to believe.  She is not ugly, but she's not a 10, plus she's 50+ and doesn't give off a cougar vibe, so I find it hard to believe that people are falling all over themselves to ask her out.

98 different people is likely a lifetime of dating for most people.  She should be happy in the fact that she's dated more men than most women in the world...and failed at doing so.
 
2014-07-08 10:54:16 AM
Woman sets out to prove she is a stone cold biatch that men cannot love, succeeds.
 
2014-07-08 10:58:39 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Beeblebrox: James Rieper: Lady, I don't even do things I like 98 times in 9 months.

Except masturbation.

Yeah, then it's 98 times in 9 days.


Are we talking about "like" or "need"?  Because she didn't need to date all those guys.
 
2014-07-08 11:02:48 AM
If she went out with 98 guys and couldn't connect with a single one, the problem isn't with them.
 
2014-07-08 11:04:23 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Beeblebrox: James Rieper: Lady, I don't even do things I like 98 times in 9 months.

Except masturbation.

Yeah, then it's 98 times in 9 days.


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2014-07-08 11:05:53 AM
I have been married to my wife for about 17 years. Didnt go on a date until after we were married for a decade.
 
2014-07-08 11:12:55 AM
Who gives a shiat about the article.
What's important in the EPIC JENNIFER LAWRENCE SIDE-BOOB in on of the side-bar stories.
 
2014-07-08 11:16:20 AM

doglover: Who the hell name drops famous friends?

Did she date exclusively executives from her own company or something?


Would explain how she has a job, because it sure has nothing to do with her writing skills.
 
2014-07-08 11:16:25 AM
Her premise isn't unreasonable.  "Dating" the way we do it, is a traditionalist appeal to "court love" and making a big spectacle over a more biological need for sex and companionship, and that it's done to appease people who like to think there's a "right way" to do things, and look to an imagined past to provide the answers.  It's hard to separate dating from the "rules" about dating that are almost completely arbitrary and silly.

She's wrong in that she thinks that whole flaunting thing is caused by dating.  It's caused by an underlying desire to compete with other potential mates.  And as long as at least a little monogamy is necessary for medical/reproductive security, dating is going to be a useful social construct for identifying that monogamy.
 
2014-07-08 11:32:32 AM
Also, how can one be a "relationship expert" if they can't get something going from going out with 98 different guys?
 
2014-07-08 11:48:24 AM
She sounds like a snatchasaurous. I loved dating, even the bad dates were good for a story to tell...
 
2014-07-08 11:51:16 AM
So 98 men and not one wanted anything more to do with her.

Looked at the pictures, looked at what she wrote..the only thing that I don't understand is why would these men go out with her in the first place.

She appears to be the type that after 2 minutes of hearing her talk, most would just walk away... not even excuse themselves to go to the washroom and sneak out, I mean literally just stand up while she's in mid-sentence and walk away.

In my dating years, I met and went on a first date with a few dozen women, and learned that most do not have a clue to what they want, have way too much baggage... the ones that believed themselves to be smart where usually the most stupid ones.

A few resulted in multiple dates or other, but none were long term material.

I met my wife and after just one date, that ended up lasting a full weekend, we've been together since.

People just play too many head games and don't have a clue to what they really want, then expect "dates" to lead to a movie type romance story.

Seriously, any guy that would try the stuff that happens in movies ends up with a court order.

Simply put, most men are assholes and most women are nutjobs.

It's those that don't belong to these groups that end up together and having a long term relationship.  Either that or an asshole and a nutjob end up being compatible (at least for a while) and end up being that couple that everyone wonders about.
 
2014-07-08 12:21:42 PM
how many guys slipped and called her mum ??
 
2014-07-08 12:28:11 PM
She looks and sounds an awful lot like this cosplayer:

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2014-07-08 12:42:25 PM
'They dangle their toys in front our eyes in the hopes that we'll bite the bait. Oddly, they're not the bait. Their possessions are the bait.'

Possessions, fiftysomething men ... Depending on the socioeconomic stratum she's exploring, these possessions would be Harleys for plain old middle-class suburb dwellers, or boats or planes or expensive cars or whatever the hell really wealthy men play with.

So, since she sees so much bait dangling from her 98 men, this tells me that either men are suckers for all the advertising you see for expensive toys, or that bait usually works pretty well on women.
 
2014-07-08 01:06:11 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost:                       I went out with 98 men in nine months


So on average she is "dating" around 2.7245 men a week, for nine months? If each guy spent at least $100 on the date, she would of not had to spend a couple of grand, and I'm sure she didn't pay once, over that period of time....It would be nice if I could do the exact same thing as her, but the dates would be with women
 
2014-07-08 01:50:37 PM

Laobaojun: What is the common factor in every bad relationship you have been in? 

1)  Do you know what causes self-inflicted injuries?
2)  Once 1) is answered correctly, do you understand how to prevent self-inflicted injuries?
3)  If self-inflicted injuries continue after steps 1) and 2), it is because you like them.  Either stop liking them, or stop complaining about them.


What was the common factor in all her dates?
HER!

HINT: if all your dates SUCK, it is probably you, not them.
 
2014-07-08 01:52:07 PM

mjbok: Also, how can one be a "relationship expert" if they can't get something going from going out with 98 different guys?


she has a penis?
 
2014-07-08 02:27:30 PM
Less than three days to schedule an initial date, have an initial date, process the initial date, determine any interest in another date, and schedule another date or the next initial date? While heading in with the assumption men will simply be dangling toys and dating is unnatural and will not work? How do you learn enough about a person on the first meeting to refuse a majority for a second meeting without simply working off of superficial nonsense and badges of prestige and affluence? Seems she was being frigid and therefore men were disinterested and figured dangling toys might get sex since frigid women tend to be about the superficial nonsense.
 
2014-07-08 02:42:49 PM
I actually agree with her that the dating process is bullshiat, and unlikely to be successful. Women should be picked up in bars. That's just me, though. I wouldn't make that claim generally applicable, because cultures don't continue to engage in practices that don't work for most people in them.
 
2014-07-08 02:50:25 PM
But the 99th lad, he stayed up. And that's what ye'll get, lass, the least discriminating man in all of England.
 
2014-07-08 02:57:30 PM
At least the male version of the was the Thousand and One Arabian Nights, which was interesting unlike the tedious pap this slag writes.
 
2014-07-08 03:07:55 PM

Vangor: Less than three days to schedule an initial date, have an initial date, process the initial date, determine any interest in another date, and schedule another date or the next initial date? While heading in with the assumption men will simply be dangling toys and dating is unnatural and will not work? How do you learn enough about a person on the first meeting to refuse a majority for a second meeting without simply working off of superficial nonsense and badges of prestige and affluence? Seems she was being frigid and therefore men were disinterested and figured dangling toys might get sex since frigid women tend to be about the superficial nonsense.


HAH
you left out:
1st date was a free dinner
2nd date was a free lunch

she overlapped them so she never had to pay for anything.
 
2014-07-08 03:51:19 PM

Fano: But the 99th lad, he stayed up. And that's what ye'll get, lass, the least discriminating man in all of England.


BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

but yeah, dating for guys is basically "please let me sleep with you" bullcrap.  Guys hate dating.  Hate "walks on the beach".  Hate romantic comedies.  Hate making small talk over Olive Garden salad.

Ladies, if a man asked you on a date, he wants to sleep with you.  He may deny it.  He may say "I'm not like that!"  He's a goddamn liar.  It's just nature.

So ladies, how about this?  Don't play games, don't act like you don't know, just decide - do I like this guy enough to sleep with him?  And if the answer is yes, well, do it.
 
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