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(Washington Post)   The backlash against gluten free dieting has begun as people who claim to be Celiac are told to eat a pizza once in a while   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 148
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2014-07-08 04:45:57 AM  
16 votes:

Czechzican: Later on she'll lament that she is having so many issues losing weight and can't understand why.


Ironically, two of my truly celiac friends were diagnosed after losing a dangerous amount of weight. They are both very happy to have gained weight (and therefore not stuck in a program with anorexics).

I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks. Does your digestive tract do its job? Fantastic. Now shut the hell up and eat the stuff you whine so much about missing. Don't worry. You'll have another fad diet to follow and complain about in a few months, and maybe that one won't be so damn insulting to people with a serious, life-threatening illness.
2014-07-08 07:32:28 AM  
11 votes:
"Within minutes of eating it, my stomach felt really bad and got bloated and crashed my energy. It made me feel just really bad," says Cheng, 33.

If you're having a reaction before the gluten can even hit your intestine, yeah that's psychosomatic.
2014-07-08 07:17:56 AM  
11 votes:
Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.
2014-07-08 03:04:30 AM  
10 votes:
I have a friend on facebook that constantly shares gluten-free recipes for rubbish food, like cookies and cupcakes with a note saying she's going to make them that day and then eventually follows up saying how great they were and that her kids loved them,etc. Later on she'll lament that she is having so many issues losing weight and can't understand why.

After trying to explain to her that she is eating a lot of rubbish, she'll retort that gluten free cookies are much more healthier than regular cookies, so it can't possibly be the reason.

Some people...
2014-07-08 07:25:31 AM  
7 votes:

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.


The gluten free folk often want to make it everyone else's business what goes in to their mouth.
2014-07-08 07:43:36 AM  
5 votes:

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.


There's a huge difference between accommodating a real restriction (when I go out to dinner with my friend L., who genuinely has Celiac, we choose a restaurant where there will be choices for her) and people who are frankly just being difficult because they like to feel special.

Personally, I'm "invested" when a friend no longer wants to go to the best pizza restaurant in town because they don't have good gluten-free pizza, or when I can't have that person over for dinner with other friends because they won't eat what I cook, or when every meal out becomes an interrogation of the waitron -- and that self-diagnosed friend doesn't actually have anything wrong with them.

And even people who do have genuine restrictions can deal with it well or deal with it selfishly. CSB: I used to have a colleague, M., who had a severe, life-threatening allergy to garlic. So anytime we ate out, which was pretty often given the nature of the job, he would find something he liked on the menu and ask the waitron "does it have garlic?". The waitron would dutifully go back and ask the chef. By the time they returned, M. would have spotted something else he liked and would ask "does this have garlic?". Wash, rinse, repeat, while the rest of us sit around waiting to order, until somebody else at the table finally loses patience and says "why don't you just ask what they can make without garlic?". Every. Freaking. Time.

So yes, sometimes it is our business, when people inflict their restrictions -- real or imagined -- on everybody else.
2014-07-08 07:19:23 AM  
5 votes:
Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.
2014-07-08 07:58:32 AM  
4 votes:
Oh, and before anybody piles onto me: Fad dieters suck, truly.  But honestly, there's better things to get bent out of shape about.  If you let every stupid thing people do raise your blood pressure, your heart's going to pop like a balloon.

Let people eat what they want to eat.
2014-07-08 07:47:20 AM  
4 votes:

Muta: I think people like these special diets because it makes them stand out.  Everyone has to accommodate their needs so they get the trump card when selecting a restaurant.  It gives them power over the group.


I think you're right, it must be a power trip, but in the end I think it just boils down to this...

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2014-07-08 07:46:40 AM  
4 votes:

frankmanhog: Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.


I've heard paleo described as half of a good idea. Probably much if not all of the benefit people see comes from simply paying attention to what they are eating and not eating processed crap.

And I feel bad for celiacs. They now have easy access to more gluten free stuff but at the cost of having to put up with their serious condition being aped by moron fadsters.
2014-07-08 07:35:06 AM  
4 votes:
It's not so much what people are eating, it's what is coming out of their ass and how fast it's coming out, and in what manner it's coming out. Of their ass. Very little mention in the article about asses, and how things come out of them, but this is a real reason many people change their diets.
2014-07-08 07:31:59 AM  
4 votes:
fark these people. I hope they die. I hope there's some kind of famine, and the only thing to eat is a bag of wheat that you get from the government like once per year. (whiny voice) "Uh, excuse me, do you have something gluten free?" Yeah, dirt. Eat farking dirt, you gluten freetard.

I'm farking sick that 99.9% of the people have to cater to the whims of retarded farking minorities. You're allergic to peanuts? I don't give a shiat. It's your own farking business. Grow and cook all your own food then.
2014-07-08 07:29:55 AM  
4 votes:
I think people like these special diets because it makes them stand out.  Everyone has to accommodate their needs so they get the trump card when selecting a restaurant.  It gives them power over the group.
2014-07-08 09:17:31 AM  
3 votes:

HeartBurnKid: So where was the "gluten free" label?


On the deli case in front of all the meats.

If would be nice if this country had some kind of a fad where everyone decided the next best thing was to eat sensibly, live in moderation, get enough exercise, socialize with their neighbors and build stronger communities.
But no. We need to isolate ourselves in the most urban areas by staring at screens, and staying indoors. We shovel ice cream in our yaps like it's a reward for breathing, not a reward after milking a cow and picking peaches, and churning a crank for hours. We are the most pampered, and weak society in the universe.
No one cares about where their food comes from just that it is there.  And if that douche waiter doesn't get back here with my zen garden, I'm going to have him fired.
2014-07-08 08:43:55 AM  
3 votes:
Celiac Disease is a serious issue, It is an auto Immune DISEASE,  Not an allergy or intolerance. Right now now it is the go to "ailment" to make fun of.  A few jokes here and there are funny, but when celebrities who have no idea what they are talking about get on TV and say that it is not real, Rachel Ray saying we are picky eaters and then including a product with wheat in a recipe for a gluten free meal,  or even that idiot Dr Oz saying it is a fad, they are doing a real disservice to the people who Suffer from a very real and serious condition.

Celiac Disease sucks and I have no idea why anyone would want to fake an intolerance, allergy, etc to it. I do not expect restaurants to cater to me. I know a few places I can eat out at, if my friends choose to eat at other places, I just meet up with them afterwards. I always pack my own food for parties and even catered events. It can be a lot of work and a real Pain, but it is better than being sick for 3 weeks from cross contamination.
2014-07-08 08:02:53 AM  
3 votes:
I've only ever met one person with celiac and from what I could see it is a truly miserable condition and people hopping on the no gluten bandwagon don't have the slightest idea about the condition they have adopted. Oh you feel bloated after a sandwich? That's nice but it isn't a mouthful of ulcers followed by raging diarrhea nice.
2014-07-08 07:56:40 AM  
3 votes:

vudukungfu: I was just picking up lunch-meat for my sammiches in the store.
Ham, Turkey, roast beef, all labeled Gluten free.
Really?


Yeah, really.  You'd be surprised how many lunchmeats have fillers, and how many of those fillers are wheat based.

Or did you really think that "roast beef" you were buying was 100% beef?
2014-07-08 07:48:07 AM  
3 votes:

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.


Three words: Gluten Free Beer

Just have a glass of wine if you want to be gluten free at the bar. Do we really need yet another frankenfood? Like sugar free grape jelly. Just...how? Have you ever had grapes? They're basically sugar and water. How are you mashing them up, jarring them and removing the sugar?

How?

HOW?!?

I actually don't care all that much but my first train was early (farking early!) and now my backup train is late (late! farking late!)
2014-07-08 07:43:26 AM  
3 votes:

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.


This is very true. It is exactly this that makes it so annoying when people without celiac have to tell everyone they know everything they have been eating.

My friend brought his GF round. Either she will die soon or is hypochondriac. She is vegetarian and gluten free and a complete pain in the ass.

Never happy, always complaining. They tried for a baby but unfortunately the first one miscarried because she was not eating properly.

Luckily she is dating my friend who takes no shiat in many areas (god knows what he is doing with her) and he made her eat real food before they tried again (now they have a lovely little girl)

Anyway, when he brought her round it was like a game of guess and tell with a depressed mute. You would ask her what she *could* eat and she would just say what she could *not* eat (not helpful, thanks) then if you suggested foods she would eliminate all of them based on various dietary restrictions.

Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.

There was literally nothing she would accept to eat. So we took her and him to a restaurant and told her to order what she liked (just to see) she ordered fish with a herb butter and potatoes...

As I say, complete pain in the ass.

To me she typifies the food obsessed whiny farkers who found out as a child that complaining got them better food and they took it to a mental level as an adult.

I don`t care what you eat. Spend loads on foods that don`t really give you any benefit or offset any deficit. I don`t care.

Just shut up about it. I don`t want to know unless I am cooking you food in which case list what you CAN eat and still shut up about what you can`t...
2014-07-08 07:39:17 AM  
3 votes:
I was just picking up lunch-meat for my sammiches in the store.
Ham, Turkey, roast beef, all labeled Gluten free.
Really?

What's next?
Fructose intolerance?

Nation of pussies.
If you have a dietary issue that is real and proven, that's one thing, but when the nation turns on whims, fads, and made up BS like a religion, then you see crap like labeling apples "Gluten Free" as marketing gimmicks.

And that's why we can't have nice things.
2014-07-08 07:37:32 AM  
3 votes:

Gaylord Fister: fark these people. I hope they die. I hope there's some kind of famine, and the only thing to eat is a bag of wheat that you get from the government like once per year. (whiny voice) "Uh, excuse me, do you have something gluten free?" Yeah, dirt. Eat farking dirt, you gluten freetard.

I'm farking sick that 99.9% of the people have to cater to the whims of retarded farking minorities. You're allergic to peanuts? I don't give a shiat. It's your own farking business. Grow and cook all your own food then.


You do know that the people with the actual legitimate problem that goes with needing gluten free food will quite probably die if they ingest too much gluten, right?
2014-07-08 07:17:34 AM  
3 votes:
Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.
2014-07-08 04:53:45 AM  
3 votes:
Yea, my friend is healthy. She is just overweight. She posts other crap too, like things from some juicing website. Just about everything is "This superfood does this! You'll have great results if you stop eating everything and only eat this superfood for a week!" That sort of bollocks.

Moreso, she's in the lower end of middle class, and half the foods she is trying on her family are made with ingredients that cost an arm and a leg. One of her cupcake recipes alone would have cost almost $60 to make. She fusses about money, but won't think twice about dropping $30 on a bottle of oil or $15 on a bag of almond flour, etc.
2014-07-08 01:34:38 PM  
2 votes:

kicksmile: Please don't be a denier. It's hard enough to live as a pariah and explain your condition to strangers without having to comfort some asshat who is annoyed by the words "Gluten Free" on menus. My own and other celiac's sufferers lives are filled with more annoyances than seeing something on occasion, I promise you.


I will definitely have a beer for you, my friend.  I once asked my brother in law about how hard it was
having to deal with his daughter's Celiac, and he basically said that he fervently wished that she could
live a completely normal life, but that he wanted to do his damnedest to make sure that she got as close
to living a normal life as possible, and he's done a heroic job of it as far as I can see.

But, take heart:  there is are beers you can enjoy without burning out your villi.
2014-07-08 12:11:41 PM  
2 votes:
There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

Quinn's ashes set on our piano as a reminder of how deadly of a disease this is. And shame on you for not being more concerned with that.
2014-07-08 12:09:23 PM  
2 votes:

varnigus: Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.

Have you ever had someone with dietary restrictions over for dinner? It very quickly becomes my problem. Pain in the ass trying to cook for them when you have exactly zero experience doing accommodating such restrictions, and my food doesn't come out quite as delicious as as it would otherwise.

When other people's silly diets affect my life in any way, I get annoyed.


Then don't invite them over.  Problem solved.
2014-07-08 11:59:50 AM  
2 votes:
I don't give a shiat what people eat or don't eat, but (stop reading here if you're one of these people, or proceed at your own risk of hurt fee-fees):

Just as people who get religion can't seem to shut the fark up about it, or people who start dating tend to act like they invented farking, people who follow certain diets can't a) admit that it's a diet fad, completely manufactured to sell stuff, like every other diet that's ever come and gone and b) resist lecturing the rest of us on how we're eating bad food or somesuch bullshiat. Some of them try to be subtle about it, but their frequent, sometimes snide little comments about what we eat (or feed our kids) kinda sucks the goodwill out of us and makes us want to punch them, after force feeding them whatever food they claim will kill us all before our time. They say ridiculous shiat that makes no goddam sense at all, as if daring us to respond so they can feel righteously persecuted by the Big Food lobby.

All I want to do is eat a farking sandwich or potato in peace without having to listen to some dipshiat go on about how they haven't eaten bread or a potato in 3 months, like they should get a commendation for it.

Unless you have a true, diagnosed-by-a-doctor food allergy/sensitivity, I don't care what you're not eating. Shut up.
2014-07-08 11:17:59 AM  
2 votes:
You can have a perfectly delicious gluten-free lifestyle with fresh fruit, vegetables, and meat while simultaneously not being an attention whore fad dieter.
2014-07-08 09:58:04 AM  
2 votes:
If someone tells you they can't eat gluten, tell them there's a promising cure in having another person's feces implanted into their colon. If they look disgusted instead of elated, they don't have Celiac's, and you should bob them on the head with a baguette repeatedly.
2014-07-08 09:52:42 AM  
2 votes:

yeolcoatl: "Within minutes of eating it, my stomach felt really bad and got bloated and crashed my energy. It made me feel just really bad," says Cheng, 33.

If you're having a reaction before the gluten can even hit your intestine, yeah that's psychosomatic.


Or a true wheat allergy, not celiac.

If I get into something with wheat in it, I feel it right away in my stomach. Feels like I need to burp, but can't. Then progresses to VERY bad heartburn and terrible anxiety as my body tries to make huge amounts of stomach acid to neutralize the wheat.
2014-07-08 09:48:10 AM  
2 votes:
This is a very real thing however it is not celiac or even gluten sensitivity.  It is a wheat sensitivity.  Why didn't people have this problem 20 years ago?  Because the wheat people ate 20 years ago was wheat, whereas the wheat people eat today is a man-made frankenfood with a new protein called gliadin.  It is this protein that many people have issues with. People, being stupid and all, figured they have a gluten problem.  The problem is wheat.

Why do I know about this?  Because I suffer from it.  If I eat wheat any number of things happens... first of all I bloat up.  My digestive system goes to shiat.  I get anxiety which will progressively get worse if I continue to eat wheat over days and will eventually have panic attacks.  I get tinnitus which again worsens with the more wheat I consume.  Other things as well.  My point is this shiat has very real effects and it's not because of a diet fad.

Scientific American article about it:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gluten-sensitivity-may-be- a- misnomer-for-distinct-illnesses-to-various-wheat-proteins/
2014-07-08 09:46:05 AM  
2 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: rikkards: DjangoStonereaver: Nuclear Monk: Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.

You've never had my mother in law's flourless chocolate cake.

It is so good that I have to actively curb myself from eating an entire cake in one sitting because A> that
would make me feel like the fat pig I am and I don't like that feeling and B> deprive my legitimately
diagnosed Celiac niece from one of life's truly great pleasures.

Buddy makes a vegan chocolate cake that is to die for. Wifey is allergic to wheat (thank god not celiac) and eggs the one benefit for the gluten-free fad is that it makes it easier to find alternatives. hard part is finding things that don't use eggs as well.

Indeed; in my nieces' brief life the labelling of food has come leaps and bounds forward, which is a boon
to people with legit allergies and food sensitivities.

Still, though, the labelling only goes so far:  for example, anything with 'carmel coloring' or 'natural flavors'
generally are gluten (coming from wheat products), as is 'malto-dextrin', which is generally wheat sugar.
I have seen things that had 'GLUTEN FREE!' on the label with these as ingredients.

However, as my niece used to point out obsessively when she was a young child, Tootsie Rolls are
gluten free.


Maltodextrin doesn't have gluten in it. It's a polysaccharide, it's made up of nothing but a bunch of linked sugars. Gluten is a protein. That's why Foods with Maltodextrin in them can be labeled gluten free.
2014-07-08 09:44:41 AM  
2 votes:

CeroX: So by eating gluten free bread, you are now eating only the carbohydrates from wheat


gluten free bread is made using other kinds of flour, you can make a gluten free flour out of cannabis roots for instance.
2014-07-08 09:42:34 AM  
2 votes:

Muta: Helicobacter pylori. It is well known that H. Pylori can cause ulcers, but researchers are finding that there is an increase in asthma where H. Pylori has been eradicated. There is also evidence that its eradication is related to increased obesity.


It's amazing how when it no longer hurts when you eat, that people will tend to eat more.
2014-07-08 09:18:23 AM  
2 votes:

Fibro: frankmanhog: Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.

I don't get your post.  Are you jealous that this guy has the physical prowess to Crossfit and the discipline to eat a consistently clean diet, and you do not? Where's the hate coming from?

I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet.  Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.


It`s the hypocritical way the guy basically said `your fad diet is wrong but my fad diet is right`.

To people not on a fad diet there isn`t much difference between no gluten, paleo, atkins or any of the fad diets.

It could be argued that your health benefits are probably coming more from doing regular exercise than your diet. You could be on pretty much any healthy diet that is not extreme, do exercise and feel the best you ever have.

That was my experience anyway, the exercise made me feel good and as a result I desired different foods but the different food desires were as a result of the exercise and feeling good, not the other way around.
2014-07-08 09:02:28 AM  
2 votes:
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2014-07-08 08:52:03 AM  
2 votes:

Czechzican: Yea, my friend is healthy. She is just overweight. She posts other crap too, like things from some juicing website. Just about everything is "This superfood does this! You'll have great results if you stop eating everything and only eat this superfood for a week!" That sort of bollocks.

Moreso, she's in the lower end of middle class, and half the foods she is trying on her family are made with ingredients that cost an arm and a leg. One of her cupcake recipes alone would have cost almost $60 to make. She fusses about money, but won't think twice about dropping $30 on a bottle of oil or $15 on a bag of almond flour, etc.


Here's an idea, if you're fat and want to lose weight DON'T FRAKING MAKE CUPCAKES

Here's what 200 calories looks like:
papagaiobrasilia.files.wordpress.com

Now you can starve yourself (and advertise that you're a moron that believes in checkout print rubbish), or you can make lots of interesting dishes that you can actually eat quite a lot of and feel full, all the while losing weight.

If you're starving, you're doing it terribly wrong.

Start off by making a egg white wrap for breakfast.

nutritionsuccess.org

These things are 200+/- calories (with low fat cheese) and will keep you full for a good 4 hours.  I like mine with peppers, onions, feta and hot sauce; but you can easily add whatever veggies you like.  If you dice and freeze your prep stuff on the weekend, it'll only take 10-15 min to throw together and cook as well.

Or you could have a bowl of soggy, air infused candy and be hungry by the time you get to work.
2014-07-08 08:32:20 AM  
2 votes:
I also try not to make a point of calling bullshiate on everybody's ailments.  I know I ate gluten free for years because an ex had psoriasis and apparently it helped her skin condition.  When we would eat out I would indulge my pasta and/or bread cravings but at home I never ate that stuff.

In retrospect I should probably go back on that diet, it certainly helps one avoid putting on layers of carb blubber.
2014-07-08 08:00:20 AM  
2 votes:
it's  odd how many people on fark.com have never met anyone with an actual food allergy and only know people who are faking it, you guys hang out with some weird mofos
2014-07-08 07:40:20 AM  
2 votes:

Cold_Sassy: Why is spellchecker tagging Celiac as a typo?


Because it's not a real disease...
2014-07-08 07:40:03 AM  
2 votes:
No matter what your nutritionist told you, there is no test for gluten "sensitivity"
2014-07-08 07:31:09 AM  
2 votes:

ebenbane: I actually hate gluten free fad dieters. They make me seethe with a deep rage.


I have gluten intolerance and why any one would fad diet it is beyond me. feel free to slap them about.
2014-07-08 07:30:09 AM  
2 votes:

Nuclear Monk: Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.


You've never had my mother in law's flourless chocolate cake.

It is so good that I have to actively curb myself from eating an entire cake in one sitting because A> that
would make me feel like the fat pig I am and I don't like that feeling and B> deprive my legitimately
diagnosed Celiac niece from one of life's truly great pleasures.
2014-07-08 07:26:56 AM  
2 votes:

Cold_Sassy: Why is spellchecker tagging Celiac as a typo?


Are you british? The brits spell it "coeliac"
2014-07-08 07:22:46 AM  
2 votes:
90% of the "gluten free" crowd actually have no idea what gluten really is.
Just ask them.
2014-07-09 05:28:20 AM  
1 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: But when the "WOW! GLUTEN FREE!" label is a two-color yellow-and-red star that takes up 1/3 of the front of the package, you can be pretty sure it's there for marketing. A crapload of products that never contained gluten have been getting these labels over the last year or two just to appeal to the trend.


imgs.xkcd.com
2014-07-08 07:12:08 PM  
1 votes:

mike_d85: I get the feeling you never worked in a large corporate setting. It's like farking high school.

\also I choose option 3
\\I once took a shiat and turned around and thought "I need to chew better"


I work in a fairly sizable corporate setting (ad agency, a couple hundred people). If yours is like high school and you play along, you're doin' it wrong. What are they gonna do, fire you for telling an assholish coworker that you don't understand why the fark they care so much whether you eat a donut or piece of cake?

I know there are people who do that thing where they offer food, you politely refuse and then they do a farking police interrogation about your eating preferences, habits, history, etc. It's creepy as shiat. Old women especially, for some reason, seem to think you have to like everything they like and that if they offer food, you have to accept it regardless of your feelings on the matter.

They are incorrect and need to be informed thusly.
2014-07-08 04:48:17 PM  
1 votes:
This one really gets me. Skinny Pop popcorn. They advertise it as lowfat, gluten free popcorn. You can get plain packaged name brand popcorn for cheaper than this stuff, or just by a bag of popcorn and an air popper. I think we have jumped the shark with gluten free when you are advertising popcorn as gluten free and charging a premium for it.
2014-07-08 03:06:31 PM  
1 votes:

vudukungfu: verbaltoxin: We still have fat-free/low fat stuff all over the shelves

Yep, all the fat is waddling down the chips and cookies aisle.
With crotch gobblins.
]
Who is putting the wood to all these tubs of lard?
There is no self responsibility or self respect anymore.

"Imma git fat and pound out some crib puppies and eat all day" seems to the be whole of life's ambition for many young women out there.

But first, the "Go though college on someone else's dime and shove my malformed, uneducated opinions upon all those around me"

Face it. we don't just take care of the mentally ill in this country. We cater to them.


...congratulations. This is actually the dumbest, least-informed opinion I've seen on Fark yet.
2014-07-08 02:30:24 PM  
1 votes:
I have been doing a roughly 80%-90% paleo diet for a few years and it has been the best idea I have ever had.  I lost 30 extra pounds and keep it off without really trying at all.  Luckily I am not that into desserts or pasta.  I make an exception for beer and pizza once in a while.  I allow myself to eat, and enjoy, whatever someone makes for me.

I am not allergic, I just don't like the effects grain products and sugar have on my system.

I guess some people can be dicks about it but they are just dicks and as we all know, dicks will be dicks.  And haters gonna hate.
2014-07-08 02:30:01 PM  
1 votes:

wingedkat: Typhoid: dready zim: Slives: dready zim: ...
Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.
...

I hope that is you being sarcastic and don't actually believe that potatoes have gluten...

is is me being sarcastic but it is also what she actually said...

I wonder if there was some sort of hilarious misunderstanding because you can't eat french fries (due to contamination with breaded fried things) in most restaurants. She doesn't sound the brightest to try vegan and gluten free (my celiac vegetarian friends eventually gave up the vegetarian part because they liked to be able to eat every once in a while), so I could see that happening.

Wheat is also a common additive to instant mashed potatoes, instant oatmeal, and canned soups.

I have some sort of food insensitivity and considered wheat for a while. It was amazing what they put it in when I started looking.

Don't think that's what was going on here, sounds more like this woman was sick with an eating disorder like anorexia.


Food "intolerance" I mean.

Still don't know what it is, the first elimination diet suggested wheat products, but noticed some gluten free foods caused the same problems.

After adding back in low processed wheat cereals, beer, and fresh breads, I'm looking at the various preservatives commonly added to commercial baked goods.
2014-07-08 02:16:15 PM  
1 votes:
varnigus:
I was kidding, but now that you mention it, it would be fun to try, not to mention educational for all. I am an experimentalist, after all...

Go ahead.  I can upper deck you with a special sauce that will make you rue the day you tested me.

/Pun intended.
2014-07-08 02:09:05 PM  
1 votes:

Wizzywig: BS. Statistically speaking it is unlikely that between the people in this thread that there are more than 4 people who actually have Celiac, and less than 10 people known by the entire body of this thread that have Celiac. If you think you know somebody with that--you likely don't. I want to see a farking doctor's note or stfu you WebMD self-diagnosing hypochondriac.

And yes, it IS annoying to see people talk about Celiac disease when they don't have it, and have no clue what they are talking about. It is dangerous and disrespectful to those who actuall have that disease.


That might be true in a random population sample, however a thread about gluten intolerance will show a bias toward people with celiacs disease and people who know someone with celiacs disease.
2014-07-08 02:00:49 PM  
1 votes:

kicksmile: Food Scientist and Celiac Sprue sufferer here!

This is not a joke for folks like myself.  The life of a Celiac person is hard enough without deniers or phony glutards (it is our word).  I have been through a full regiment of blood work and biopsies and can tell you gluten was in parts of my body it should not have been.  The pain of eating it now that I am clean is enough to lose sleep worrying over (see. any time I cannot vet a restaurant in advance).  I have to struggle daily to keep from getting ill on something that is more than common in the western diet and culture.

THAT SAID:

I don't wish or suggest my diet on anyone.  Eat what your body will allow you in moderation and diversity.  In fact have a beer for me, seriously.  I miss that sweet nectar of the God's more than you can imagine.  Nothing is quite as depressing as watching others eat and drink while you enjoy a water or worse, a cider.

Please don't be a denier.  It's hard enough to live as a pariah and explain your condition to strangers without having to comfort some asshat who is annoyed by the words "Gluten Free" on menus.  My own and other celiac's sufferers lives are filled with more annoyances than seeing something on occasion, I promise you.


had a college professor who had celiac disease.  I didn't know it, but the food I brought to class was torture for her.  I'm an italian cook(I'm actually Irish, but that never stopped me), and I can make some of the very best Italian dishes, and it was killing her to go to class and see what I made that day.

At the end of the semester, I broke down and asked her why she never took any of the offered food.  I learned her whole story, that day, and found out her husband had the same restrictions, which also included an issue with casein(protein found in all types of dairy).  Turns out she'd go home and tell her hubby about the dish I brought in that day, then they'd both go back to their restrictive diets.  On a whim, I prepared a dish for them, as a sort of, "Can I cook for someone with Celiac disease" thing.  I will never do that again.  The combination of the celiac disease and casein allergy created a whole new hell for a chef trying to make something for them.

/I feel for the real sufferers, but I have no pity for the pretenders
2014-07-08 01:53:58 PM  
1 votes:

tartcake: I have diagnosed IBS and I have to say I do feel for people who truly have digestive issues.  It is horrible and embarrassing.  A long long time ago in a galaxy far away, I went on a date with this nice guy.  It was our third date I think.  We had stuffed crust pizza which was a new thing at the time.  (I had an onion on my belt.)    After we got to his apartment, I was horrified to realize:  1.   my GI tract did not like fact I had just ingested so much cheese,  2.   his bathroom had no windows or air freshener, and  3.   the walls were very very thin.  It was absolutely mortifying. I mean honestly I think  the fart concert  rendered him speechless for like five minutes while all I could is apologize profusely and feel bad because he was going to have to repaint his bathroom.  (God, undigested cheese stinks to holy hell.)     Honestly, I can't believe he later married me.


Look, it was a third date.  He would have put up with a lot worse if it was otherwise going to go the way that most good third dates go.  I mean, he's a guy and all.
2014-07-08 01:53:29 PM  
1 votes:

dustygrimp: Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.

They make it the business of the general public when they spout off about it.  If you have a gluten allergy, the only people that need to know are you, your doctor and anyone who might be serving you food. To declare it at every opportunity is to invite backlash.


You'd be amazed how much grey area is in there.  People share food, it's a socially healthy group building activity.  People bring a box of donuts and offer it to you.  If you say no without a reason, you're a dick.  Some people assume a diet and say "will one KILL you?" and you have to tell them it would send you home for the rest of the day.  Actually, I was once stuck at work because I couldn't not poop long enough to commute home.

Same for the office cake for a birthday, except with 30 people in the room.  People immediately follow with a question and you have to answer.  Questions like "what happens if you eat it" are touchy because most people don't want to hear about shiating undigested food right before eating.  I try to dodge with things like "I'll tell you after you eat" but some people just have to hear a justifiable reason.  I don't give a fark, I'll ruin everyone's lunch by grossing you out if you push me.  My aunt will preach for 30 minutes about gluten because she genuinely enjoys doing it and she thinks that's somehow better.
2014-07-08 01:40:14 PM  
1 votes:

udhq: Yes, when I hear the word "inflamation", my brain assumes what follows is bullshiat, and shuts down, just like when it hears "toxins".  But people believe a lot of stupid shiat, and they're free to do so.


It's not the people who believe the stupid shiat that gets on my nerves. They're victims of scammers.

It's people who make money by convincing people of stupid shiat.

Grifters should not be rewarded.
2014-07-08 01:33:28 PM  
1 votes:

varnigus: I like that approach. Probably since you have a real issue (and not the self-diagnosed nonsense that drew the ire of my initial post) and you demonstrate knowledge of your condition and how to combat it, people are quite willing to make sure you are comfortable. Part of it is probably how much of a mystery someone's dietary restrictions can be to people without them, so giving a list of specifics takes a lot of stress out of the ordeal.

I have only very rarely met people with real, medically diagnosed issues. For others, I've taken to placebos (I swear this pizza crust is gluten-free, and that's lactose-free cheese, too).


Never mind having an actual medical issue, it's not being a dick.  Vegitarians, vegans, dieters, etc. can all adhere to a diet quietly.

Careful with the placebo test.  I can and will make a house smell funny for extended periods of time.  Best case scenario is me doubled over for an hour or so in pain.
2014-07-08 01:32:07 PM  
1 votes:

Smoky Dragon Dish: Have you seen all the biatching about high fructose corn syrup as a sweetner? Not from the people that say it doesn't taste as good as sugar.... but from the people who say it's killing us?


I've only heard it from people saying it doesn't taste as good as sugar and people who have legitimate complaints about the monoculture of corn. The corn industry isn't helping with that commercial they have where they say that cane sugar and high fructose corn syrup are exactly the same thing. Different molecules.
2014-07-08 01:30:48 PM  
1 votes:
I have diagnosed IBS and I have to say I do feel for people who truly have digestive issues.  It is horrible and embarrassing.  A long long time ago in a galaxy far away, I went on a date with this nice guy.  It was our third date I think.  We had stuffed crust pizza which was a new thing at the time.  (I had an onion on my belt.)    After we got to his apartment, I was horrified to realize:  1.   my GI tract did not like fact I had just ingested so much cheese,  2.   his bathroom had no windows or air freshener, and  3.   the walls were very very thin.  It was absolutely mortifying. I mean honestly I think  the fart concert  rendered him speechless for like five minutes while all I could is apologize profusely and feel bad because he was going to have to repaint his bathroom.  (God, undigested cheese stinks to holy hell.)     Honestly, I can't believe he later married me.
2014-07-08 01:28:24 PM  
1 votes:

hej: meat0918: No more good pizza.  No more good beer.  And if he accidentally had some gluten, it was hospital time for him, and he had no insurance at the time.

Which makes his contempt for other people ordering gluten free food rather odd, since common sense suggests it would lower the odds of cross contamination with his food.


It's the boy who cried wolf problem. There are so many fakers that restaurants stop taking your protestations seriously, and you end up with a full gluten meal.
2014-07-08 01:28:00 PM  
1 votes:

HeadLever: So are you the pot or the kettle?


I'm the guy who thinks everyone should just live their lives how they see fit, and stop getting bent out of shape at other people doing the same.
2014-07-08 01:21:46 PM  
1 votes:
Food Scientist and Celiac Sprue sufferer here!

This is not a joke for folks like myself.  The life of a Celiac person is hard enough without deniers or phony glutards (it is our word).  I have been through a full regiment of blood work and biopsies and can tell you gluten was in parts of my body it should not have been.  The pain of eating it now that I am clean is enough to lose sleep worrying over (see. any time I cannot vet a restaurant in advance).  I have to struggle daily to keep from getting ill on something that is more than common in the western diet and culture.

THAT SAID:

I don't wish or suggest my diet on anyone.  Eat what your body will allow you in moderation and diversity.  In fact have a beer for me, seriously.  I miss that sweet nectar of the God's more than you can imagine.  Nothing is quite as depressing as watching others eat and drink while you enjoy a water or worse, a cider.

Please don't be a denier.  It's hard enough to live as a pariah and explain your condition to strangers without having to comfort some asshat who is annoyed by the words "Gluten Free" on menus.  My own and other celiac's sufferers lives are filled with more annoyances than seeing something on occasion, I promise you.
2014-07-08 01:15:23 PM  
1 votes:

Typhoid: dready zim: Slives: dready zim: ...
Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.
...

I hope that is you being sarcastic and don't actually believe that potatoes have gluten...

is is me being sarcastic but it is also what she actually said...

I wonder if there was some sort of hilarious misunderstanding because you can't eat french fries (due to contamination with breaded fried things) in most restaurants. She doesn't sound the brightest to try vegan and gluten free (my celiac vegetarian friends eventually gave up the vegetarian part because they liked to be able to eat every once in a while), so I could see that happening.


Wheat is also a common additive to instant mashed potatoes, instant oatmeal, and canned soups.

I have some sort of food insensitivity and considered wheat for a while. It was amazing what they put it in when I started looking.

Don't think that's what was going on here, sounds more like this woman was sick with an eating disorder like anorexia.
2014-07-08 01:10:39 PM  
1 votes:

vudukungfu: HeartBurnKid: So where was the "gluten free" label?

On the deli case in front of all the meats.

If would be nice if this country had some kind of a fad where everyone decided the next best thing was to eat sensibly, live in moderation, get enough exercise, socialize with their neighbors and build stronger communities.
But no. We need to isolate ourselves in the most urban areas by staring at screens, and staying indoors. We shovel ice cream in our yaps like it's a reward for breathing, not a reward after milking a cow and picking peaches, and churning a crank for hours. We are the most pampered, and weak society in the universe.
No one cares about where their food comes from just that it is there.  And if that douche waiter doesn't get back here with my zen garden, I'm going to have him fired.


Some deli meats do have gluten, which would be important information to someone with coeliac disease.
2014-07-08 01:07:55 PM  
1 votes:
A magazine once asked 103 people, who *claimed* to be on the Atkins diet, what a carb was.

Fewer than half knew the correct answer was carbohydrates. Popular answers included 'calories', 'fat', and 'cholesterol'.

I strongly suspect this is also true for gluten.
2014-07-08 01:04:06 PM  
1 votes:
Gluten-free dieters are like hipsters: the only thing worse than gluten-free dieters are the insufferable twats that just HAVE to let every one around them know how annoyed and offended they are at other peoples' dietary choices.
2014-07-08 01:03:44 PM  
1 votes:

TyrantII: Czechzican: Yea, my friend is healthy. She is just overweight. She posts other crap too, like things from some juicing website. Just about everything is "This superfood does this! You'll have great results if you stop eating everything and only eat this superfood for a week!" That sort of bollocks.

Moreso, she's in the lower end of middle class, and half the foods she is trying on her family are made with ingredients that cost an arm and a leg. One of her cupcake recipes alone would have cost almost $60 to make. She fusses about money, but won't think twice about dropping $30 on a bottle of oil or $15 on a bag of almond flour, etc.

Here's an idea, if you're fat and want to lose weight DON'T FRAKING MAKE CUPCAKES

Here's what 200 calories looks like:


Now you can starve yourself (and advertise that you're a moron that believes in checkout print rubbish), or you can make lots of interesting dishes that you can actually eat quite a lot of and feel full, all the while losing weight.

If you're starving, you're doing it terribly wrong.

Start off by making a egg white wrap for breakfast.



These things are 200+/- calories (with low fat cheese) and will keep you full for a good 4 hours.  I like mine with peppers, onions, feta and hot sauce; but you can easily add whatever veggies you like.  If you dice and freeze your prep stuff on the weekend, it'll only take 10-15 min to throw together and cook as well.

Or you could have a bowl of soggy, air infused candy and be hungry by the time you get to work.


Why no yolk?
2014-07-08 12:31:54 PM  
1 votes:

buckler: This gluten-free nonsense is a bunch of crap. In all my life, I've known exactly one person with Celiac,


So because your experience is limited, it is a bunch of crap?  Sounds a bit like argumentum ad ignorantiam to me.
2014-07-08 12:27:46 PM  
1 votes:

MrSteve007: CheapEngineer: For many it takes *several* passes of tests to find allergies, especially foods. My mother and sister both have severe food allergies (I have several) and some show up in the skin tests but not in the blood tests, some in the blood but not skin. Several things my mother is violently allergic to don't show up in any test, yet she can tell when something she eats has corn products in it within 30 minutes. It's damn hard to shop for her, and finding food she can eat is expensive and time consuming for a 70+ year old.

\most of her allergies worsened after a bad bacterial infection 20 years ago
\\the above information is for everyone else in the thread
\\\'cause I'm not pretending to myself you give a rat's ass
If the skin and/or blood test are inconclusive (which I'm highly incredulous of that fact), I would absolutely do a clinical double-blind test via consumption. What would be most interesting is if you gave her sample A and sample B - stating that one of them has some parts of the food she's allergic to, but in reality, neither one has any, and see if she has any symptoms. Of course, if you're at 70 and have numerous other health related issues, it doesn't matter much, as you can't change much with people long set in their ways.

What I have the largest issue with, is that it seems that about 10-15% of the population claims to be gluten intolerant - especially if you live in an urban area on the West Coast, and you're under the age of 35. I have 4 friends who claim their stomach issues are due to celiacs. I ask them how they got tested, and every one says "Oh, I didn't see a doctor, I just know."

It reminds me of the brother's kids, who claim all kinds of food allergies: "Oh, I'm allergic to shellfish" Then I point out to them that for lunch, several hours earlier, they had a crab cake. Suddenly, they'll claim all kinds of symptoms. Same goes for them and fish, yet they'll eat fish and chips all day long.

And don't get me started on my aunt, who f ...


I'm just tired of the stupid tainting the public's opinion of people that really have these allergies.

I've spent the last few years learning how to make the christmas candies my mother and grandmother used to make, without wheat/corn/peanuts. Normal powdered sugar has corn starch in it to keep it from sticking together (I use a small coffee grinder to powder sugar for her, 1/3 cup at a time). Damn near *everything* has corn syrup in it. Hell, even the vanilla extract contains alcohol from corn, which makes her itch if she eats any (I have an airline bottle of potato vodka full of crushed vanilla beans). The Brits use a lot of Cane Sugar syrup, that's a handy replacement.

If everyone wants to eat like this for made up reasons - let 'em. That means there will be more products out there for people with the real issue to eat.
2014-07-08 12:02:45 PM  
1 votes:

Loren: Yup. The fad diet guys are a real pain for those of us with real issues. I don't have celiac but I have had people pretend things didn't contain ingredients I knew would give me trouble. (Fortunately anaphylaxis isn't an issue. Eating something wrong can be rather unpleasant but it won't kill me other than through malnutrition.)


Sounds like the real problem isn't the fad dieters, but the assholes who presume you are a fad dieter.
hej
2014-07-08 11:41:58 AM  
1 votes:

Wizzywig: BS. Statistically speaking it is unlikely that between the people in this thread that there are more than 4 people who actually have Celiac, and less than 10 people known by the entire body of this thread that have Celiac. If you think you know somebody with that--you likely don't. I want to see a farking doctor's note or stfu you WebMD self-diagnosing hypochondriac.

And yes, it IS annoying to see people talk about Celiac disease when they don't have it, and have no clue what they are talking about. It is dangerous and disrespectful to those who actuall have that disease.


My best friend was diagnosed by a doctor.  fark off.
2014-07-08 11:41:31 AM  
1 votes:
I have Crohn's and am missing about 5 feet of small intestine. I'm not Celiac but I have a lot of intolerances, or rather things that I just don't digest very well (end result: discomfort and lots of reading time on the throne). Gluten is delicious. Depending on the phase of the moon I can tolerate a small amount or not. Why anyone would want to go without gluten boggles my mind. If I could digest it reliably I would eat pizza and pasta every day of the week and six times on Sunday.
2014-07-08 11:38:34 AM  
1 votes:

Wizzywig: BS. Statistically speaking it is unlikely that between the people in this thread that there are more than 4 people who actually have Celiac, and less than 10 people known by the entire body of this thread that have Celiac. If you think you know somebody with that--you likely don't. I want to see a farking doctor's note or stfu you WebMD self-diagnosing hypochondriac.


My mother has a confirmed diagnosis.  In addition, my son has a confirmed wheat allergy.  Not sure why you find it offensive that I would talk about this issue because I don't have it.  It sure impacts all of our lives, not just the ones that have it.  It is neither dangerous nor disrespectful and it is dumb to pretend that the only ones that can talk about it is the ones that have it.

Lighten up Francis.
2014-07-08 11:18:31 AM  
1 votes:
The Homer Tax:

(snip stuff about maltodextrin)

Even if it's derived from wheat, it doesn't have gluten in it. It's just a sugar, there's no protein in it.

I only got the doctor's explanation second hand, but apparently its a case of potential cross- or latent
contamination. Even a molecule or two of gluten can damage a Celiac's villi.

I had thought that liquors distilled from wheat should all be OK because of the heat of distillation, but
unless its distilled multiple times like vodak (which good whiskeys aren't), there are still trace amounts of
gluten that will cause problems.

Not that my niece (who is 13) should be having booze of any sort, but she needs to know it for future
reference. Rum is better tasting, anyway, and that is definitely gluten free.
2014-07-08 11:18:15 AM  
1 votes:

Headso: meat0918: he absolutely loathed and despised any of the gluten free hangers on.  And loathed and despised are mild words for how much hatred he had for them.

meat0918: he had no insurance at the time.

Hey, at least his priorities were in order


His job history is a little spotty, since before he was diagnosed it was hard to keep a job when you're in and out of the hospital because you didn't know what was wrong with you.
2014-07-08 11:17:36 AM  
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure we're going to say gluten is a superfood in seven years
2014-07-08 11:10:46 AM  
1 votes:
I saw that backlash first hand, from a friend with Celiac that despite having his menu options expand, he absolutely loathed and despised any of the gluten free hangers on.  And loathed and despised are mild words for how much hatred he had for them.

For him, Celiac was a curse, not something to revel and enjoy.

No more good pizza.  No more good beer.  And if he accidentally had some gluten, it was hospital time for him, and he had no insurance at the time.
2014-07-08 10:59:41 AM  
1 votes:
Americans wanting to be special ruins things for people with legitimate health problems?

No way.

You mean that person who likes living in a clean house doesn't have OCD?
You mean that obnoxious prick on some games forum isn't really autistic?
You mean that furry tumblr user doesn't suffer from any sort of dysphoria?
You mean that wal-mart denizen doesn't suffer from glandular problems?
You mean that person who biatches about "triggering" off of vaguely related words that don't even evoke a particular situation doesn't have PTSD?


Christ, it's like people who actually have those conditions wouldn't wish them on anyone.
2014-07-08 10:57:28 AM  
1 votes:

weddingsinger: Iceman_Cometh: Onkel Buck: If Someone Ever Tells You They Have A Gluten Allergy, Show Them This

Yes, I often take medical advise from a waitress.

It's not medical advice, its manners.  As a server, people often lied about their allergies (no, I don't believe you're allergic to tomatoes, or blue cheese).  Its a HUGE PIA for a restaurant to accomodate an actual allergy, compared to a simple request to leave a certain food out.  And allergen gets a separate prep area, and requires much more care and removes an employee from other tasks.  A simple request means just leaving the food off the damn plate.

The real nuisance here is, people have no damn clue why they're going gluten free, and think gluten is bad for you.  They probably also think its a carb.

And for you folks who *think* you're 'gluten intolerant,' science says its probably something else: poorly absorbed, short-chain carbs.

The science:  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648697


I'm allergic to wheat, oats, tomatoes, onions, lettuce, spinach, carrots, bananas, celery, soy, peanuts, yeast, strawberries, milk, shellfish, gourds and melons. ( those are all "families" so being allergic to say bananas and avocados means I also have a latex allergy. There's whole huge lists of things because of that) Basically if it's a plant and it's not rice, corn, pears, peas or potatoes, im allergic to it.

If they are very well cooked I can tolerate most of them. Most I can tolerate small amounts of.

Since so many people have fake allergies and so many asshole servers and chefs thinks allergies are a joke I usually drop my big ass bag of pills and epipens on the table after I say I have an allergy to whatever and that I'm NOT joking.
hej
2014-07-08 10:52:54 AM  
1 votes:

China White Tea: Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat

Because idiots adhering to nonsensical fad diets are physically incapable of shutting the fark up about their new diet-slash-magic-health-bullet.  Ideally, I would never have to hear about this UH-MAZING! gluten-free diet from someone who has never even heard of celiac, but we don't live in that world, so the consolation prize is mocking them for their idiocy.


Interestingly, if this thread is any indication, it's the people who aren't participating in whatever "fad diet" that are idiots incapable of shutting the fark up about their irrational-hate-for-what-other-people-eat.
2014-07-08 10:52:28 AM  
1 votes:

hej: The people who convince servers to ignore people looking for gluten-free food are the same people who come on forums like this one and mock others for their dietary choices.


And I'm pissed off at the people who have turned gluten free into the latest fad diet. It's good that it leads to more gluten free choices, but it also convinces servers and others that all it is is a fad diet.
2014-07-08 10:52:20 AM  
1 votes:

lilplatinum: I've been told by various glutards that my type 1 diabetes would clear right up if I


A lot of people confuse Type I with with Type II.  My son was diagnosed with Type I and he gets all sorts of advise goes along the lines of "if he'd just eat healthier and avoid ... while eating more ... then the diabetes can be reversed".  Perhaps with that advise works with Type II but changing his diet isn't jump starting his pancreas.
2014-07-08 10:40:00 AM  
1 votes:

BorgiaGinz: Would you believe there's gluten-free dog food? That's the new fad down at my pet-food store, all the bags of  the expensive dog food have "GLUTEN-FREE!!!" added to the labeling. Since when do dogs have celiac disease?


Dogs don't handle grain well to begin with, calling it gluten free is just jumping on the fad.  My dog has extensive problems with his joints.  We've gone through all of the treatments (stem cells, etc) to get him better but moving to a grain free diet has probably helped the best.  It's a bit more pricey obviously but worth it.  Their coats will be nicer which will be better for yours and their allergies.
2014-07-08 10:35:40 AM  
1 votes:

sethen320: Iceman_Cometh: Onkel Buck: If Someone Ever Tells You They Have A Gluten Allergy, Show Them This

Yes, I often take medical advise from a waitress.

Its just as valid as making up a fake ailment.


Yes, my son puking eight times a day and the 'scope of his small intestine with the villi swollen and laying flat was totally fake.

The waitress goes on and on about an allergy, when Coeliac disease is an auto immune response, in other words an intolerance, not an allergy. Sure, there are a lot of idiots out there who seem to believe that a gluten free diet is some cure all, or will improve them in some way. I've also know a dumbass (not my son) who has been diagnosed with Coeliac's who will eat the filling out of a cheesecake and leave the crust. Dumbass gets sick every time.
As far as companies slapping the gluten free tag on their products, it's a mixed blessing. In some cases it's outright stupidity. Look at the back of the bottle. That's right, you can feel safe that your toilet bowl cleaner is Gluten Free. http://shop.seventhgeneration.com/toilet-bowl-cleaner.html

Anyone who has had a diagnosis for a while knows that a lot of items are naturally gluten free, it's when there is something like spices or "natural flavorings" listed on a package that it's nice to have some clarification. I've called up companies, granted it's been a few years, and asked about a product containing gluten and was once told, "No, it doesn't contain glue, why would it contain glue?" Not glue, gluten. "I don't understand". And that wasn't the person that just answered the phone, that was supposed to be their health expert.
2014-07-08 10:34:09 AM  
1 votes:

CeroX: So they process the shiat out of if, make it into small particles, ad some flour and some other shiat to turn it into a paste that they can put into a form before they cook it, then after they can stick it in a machine to slice and package.


At which point, it is no longer chicken, but a bread pudding with poultry product in it.

Bleah.
2014-07-08 10:30:19 AM  
1 votes:

CeroX: It's probably not that hard for them to find a corn substitute as a binder.


Don't get your hopes up, I am sure they'll replace the flour with a petroleum based binder.
2014-07-08 10:25:39 AM  
1 votes:

KatjaMouse: Loreweaver: If the lunch meat you are buying says "Gluten Free" on the package, they are either using it as a marketing gimmick to increase the price (since meat does not have gluten) , or they are adding grain-based fillers to the meat.

A lot of deli meats have added cornstarch to them. Usually as part of the glaze so yeah, even buying lunch meat can be a bit of a gamble for people with allergies.


Except corn is gluten free... the problem I believe in some meat products is that it is mixed with flour as a binding agent. So for example, you have a chicken breast, but you can't easily slice a chicken breast into a paper thin, perfectly round piece of meat. So they process the shiat out of if, make it into small particles, ad some flour and some other shiat to turn it into a paste that they can put into a form before they cook it, then after they can stick it in a machine to slice and package.
It's probably not that hard for them to find a corn substitute as a binder.
2014-07-08 10:25:26 AM  
1 votes:
These gluten intolerance people are glutenist! Where is the outrage? Why hasn't someone been chastised and lost their jobs over their intolerance of gluten?

This should make the glutenists' blood boil.
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2014-07-08 10:20:07 AM  
1 votes:

eeyore102: I made this huge long post but it got eaten. Least it was gluten-free.

Anyway...

A year ago I was diagnosed with celiac disease via a blood antigen test and an upper gastrointestinal endoscopy. Since going on a gluten-free diet, I've discovered a few things.

1. I can definitely tell when I've eaten gluten because I spend the next few days visiting the toilet eleventy times a day, I want to sleep when I'm not on the toilet, and I get seriously emotionally unstable and irrational for some reason.

2. It's amazing the things I've found that do contain gluten. A rotisserie chicken I was going to buy turned out to have wheat starch. Pumpkin seeds had unbromated wheat flour. Even the peanuts on Southwest had wheat starch as an ingredient. I can't take anything for granted.

3. My parents are dumb and don't get what celiac disease or gluten is, though I've tried to explain. They can't get why I can't have white bread ("well it's not wheat bread right?"), why I can't have gravy, why I can't eat the butter if they've gotten toast crumbs in it, that brown sugar does not have gluten, etc., etc.

4. It's way easier for me to just bring my own food everywhere, but some people get remarkably defensive about that. They don't get that it isn't about them, it's about me not wanting to deal with the repercussions of my illness.

Fortunately, there is a pill in clinical trials that could help with the cross-contamination issues.  http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/CeliacDiseaseDrugs/fl/Alvine-Pharma - Celiac-Disease-Drug.htm


I've heard that rather than pills they were testing a Beano-type enzyme additive you put in food before
you eat it, but I'm mostly quoting you to re-emphasize the validity of everything you wrote.

My niece was diagnosed at 9 months old, so she has literally grown up knowing her limitations, and her
entire family has really embraced helping her along through it and making sure that despite the limits of
her condition she has had an absolutely normal childhood.
2014-07-08 10:13:36 AM  
1 votes:

Loreweaver: If the lunch meat you are buying says "Gluten Free" on the package, they are either using it as a marketing gimmick to increase the price (since meat does not have gluten) , or they are adding grain-based fillers to the meat.


A lot of deli meats have added cornstarch to them. Usually as part of the glaze so yeah, even buying lunch meat can be a bit of a gamble for people with allergies.
2014-07-08 10:12:18 AM  
1 votes:

El Dudereno: Ker_Thwap: El Dudereno: I tell people I'm gluten free so they don't bring me junk food.
We had a baby a few months ago, and everyone wanted to bring us a meal to help out. The gluten free thing meant they weren't just bringing us a pizza or a giant bowl of pasta, which isn't on our menu at home. Also we didn't get a metric ton of baked goods.
If I'd asked that no junk food was brought over, people would have ignored it.

/would have been better if they brought is diapers, but they wanted to feel more helpful than that
//would have been fine with them just coming over to have a look at the baby
///that's what they really wanted anyway

On one hand, no one likes to be lied to.  Had you told me the truth, I'd have brought you over something healthy. (hypothetically of course.)  On the other hand, some people are fat and stupid and think that fatty cooking is the only way they can express their love.

The second group is most of the people who "wanted to help out".
Funny thing is, Mrs. Dudereno doesn't cook anyway. I do. She was busy with the baby, and I could still make dinner for the family.
Also, I've found that 'healthy' means very different things to different people. Saying 'gluten free' gave them a much better idea.


I disagree, it could give them the exact wrong idea and it's kind of a jerk thing to do.  Had my daughter for instance had told me this, I'd have gone out and bought gluten free ingredients, spent extra hours preparing them, and potentially shown up at the door with a big fattening casserole, and some macarons.  Gluten free does not equate to healthy.
2014-07-08 10:12:00 AM  
1 votes:

Vangor: Either Chopin, which is potato based and therefore naturally gluten-free, or Tito's, which due to distillation procedures is gluten-free, are both excellent options if you haven't found a good enough vodka yet. The latter is less expensive and becoming increasingly more common.


All distilled alcohols are gluten free, even if distilled from wheat.
2014-07-08 10:01:32 AM  
1 votes:

thisdaydreamer: nunyadang: I still think you are fat

Does my being overweight make you feel better? Fine. I'm fat. Go to town with that.

Now go to bed and let the adults talk.


Do you as a fat person hate all skinny people and dieters, or just the gluties?
2014-07-08 10:01:23 AM  
1 votes:
lol crossfit. Enjoy your kipping "pull ups" and back pain from doing way too many reps of complex lifts with shiatty form
2014-07-08 09:59:28 AM  
1 votes:
My ex-wife is a celiac.  She would get even a little bit of gluten she would be on the toilet for 4 hours in agony.  Some people will do anything for attention.
2014-07-08 09:58:00 AM  
1 votes:
Diagnosed celiac here.. I love the fad, as it has made available good food for me. Also, it is smart for restaurants to make it easy for gluten free, as we bring our whole families with us, so it multiplies manifold the market.
Fyi., the most common decade for onset/diagnosis of celiac is the 4th decade of life. So it is common for someone to have to change diet later in life
2014-07-08 09:51:32 AM  
1 votes:

hubiestubert: because he uses our flattop to sear scallops and shrimp


Jesum crow.
I worked in kitchens where we never cross contaminated the prep tables.
Like kosher kitchens.

You can't fark around with that.
You get some little bit of anything where it shouldn't be and an entire dish is ruined at the least.

I've had sloppy cooks fired for crap like that.
2014-07-08 09:41:48 AM  
1 votes:

wren337: Onkel Buck: If Someone Ever Tells You They Have A Gluten Allergy, Show Them This

My good friends 10 year old was diagnosed by an actual doctor with celiac.  They went to Fridays which has a large, prominent gluten free menu.  He was served a burger with a regular bun, ate half and then projectile vomited all over the place.


Lucky kid. I usually end up shiatting all over the place.

If some uppity coont at a restaurant thinks I made up my disease and gives me wheat, I'll go spray my shiat all over their restroom. Thankfully, it hasn't come to that yet.
2014-07-08 09:37:27 AM  
1 votes:
It's hilarious how many people just go head first into whatever they think is the new health fad because they heard how gluten is bad in passing. It amazes me that people don't research this shiat for themselves to find out what it is. Gluten is a protein. So by eating gluten free bread, you are now eating only the carbohydrates from wheat and getting none of the fiber or protein... Then complain why your blood sugar is up and your getting fatter...
2014-07-08 09:35:02 AM  
1 votes:

Ker_Thwap: Never had those side effects.  Possibly I had some other sort of bacteria causing the ulcer, but either way, I'd have gladly traded the considerable pain for having to manually monitor my food intake.


H. Pylori is a bacteria that can cause ulcers.  Removing it from your system helped you.  The human body didn't evolve with an ulcer causing bacteria in its gut just to dick with your head.  If that were the case then evolution would have eliminated it long ago.  The bacteria also has some health benefits which you are not experiencing now.  So heads up.
2014-07-08 09:31:59 AM  
1 votes:

thisdaydreamer: hej: nunyadang: hej: thisdaydreamer: I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks.

I really want to know how other people choosing  not to eat something is a problem for you.

Because he is a fat farker

Then I would think he'd be happy that there's more food left for him.

Aw. You guys are so cute. I knew you'd come along eventually.

Let me explain it to you. People with celiac disease have to severely restrict what they eat. People who hop on the gluten-is-evil bandwagon make everyone who truly has to avoid gluten look like a trendy dieter rather than a person with a serious illness, which convinces food companies and servers to ignore anyone looking for gluten-free food. Hence, folks with celiac are in more danger (and, yes, celiac disease can be deadly) while the trendy dieters get to keep thinking that they are ssssoooooo much healthier for dumping gluten.

There's also the arrogance of declaring your diet to be as important as someone who must restrict themselves or land in the hospital.

I am neither celiac nor gluten free. I just really hate what my friends are going through because of the latest nutritional fad.


I still think you are fat
2014-07-08 09:30:29 AM  
1 votes:

TyrantII: Czechzican: Yea, my friend is healthy. She is just overweight. She posts other crap too, like things from some juicing website. Just about everything is "This superfood does this! You'll have great results if you stop eating everything and only eat this superfood for a week!" That sort of bollocks.

Moreso, she's in the lower end of middle class, and half the foods she is trying on her family are made with ingredients that cost an arm and a leg. One of her cupcake recipes alone would have cost almost $60 to make. She fusses about money, but won't think twice about dropping $30 on a bottle of oil or $15 on a bag of almond flour, etc.

Here's an idea, if you're fat and want to lose weight DON'T FRAKING MAKE CUPCAKES

Here's what 200 calories looks like:


Now you can starve yourself (and advertise that you're a moron that believes in checkout print rubbish), or you can make lots of interesting dishes that you can actually eat quite a lot of and feel full, all the while losing weight.

If you're starving, you're doing it terribly wrong.

Start off by making a egg white wrap for breakfast.



These things are 200+/- calories (with low fat cheese) and will keep you full for a good 4 hours.  I like mine with peppers, onions, feta and hot sauce; but you can easily add whatever veggies you like.  If you dice and freeze your prep stuff on the weekend, it'll only take 10-15 min to throw together and cook as well.

Or you could have a bowl of soggy, air infused candy and be hungry by the time you get to work.


Skip the tortilla and have the egg yolks. Save the tortilla for lunch. Lose the cheese and Throw on some avocado and the extra fat will keep you full much like longer.
2014-07-08 09:29:58 AM  
1 votes:
I tell people I'm gluten free so they don't bring me junk food.
We had a baby a few months ago, and everyone wanted to bring us a meal to help out. The gluten free thing meant they weren't just bringing us a pizza or a giant bowl of pasta, which isn't on our menu at home. Also we didn't get a metric ton of baked goods.
If I'd asked that no junk food was brought over, people would have ignored it.

/would have been better if they brought is diapers, but they wanted to feel more helpful than that
//would have been fine with them just coming over to have a look at the baby
///that's what they really wanted anyway
2014-07-08 09:29:33 AM  
1 votes:

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.


"Because if anyone does anything different to what I dothey're directly insulting me and the way I live my life."

If you think people's outrage over what other people eat is bad wait until you have kids.
2014-07-08 09:25:07 AM  
1 votes:

hej: nunyadang: hej: thisdaydreamer: I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks.

I really want to know how other people choosing  not to eat something is a problem for you.

Because he is a fat farker

Then I would think he'd be happy that there's more food left for him.


Aw. You guys are so cute. I knew you'd come along eventually.

Let me explain it to you. People with celiac disease have to severely restrict what they eat. People who hop on the gluten-is-evil bandwagon make everyone who truly has to avoid gluten look like a trendy dieter rather than a person with a serious illness, which convinces food companies and servers to ignore anyone looking for gluten-free food. Hence, folks with celiac are in more danger (and, yes, celiac disease can be deadly) while the trendy dieters get to keep thinking that they are ssssoooooo much healthier for dumping gluten.

There's also the arrogance of declaring your diet to be as important as someone who must restrict themselves or land in the hospital.

I am neither celiac nor gluten free. I just really hate what my friends are going through because of the latest nutritional fad.
2014-07-08 09:18:30 AM  
1 votes:

lake_huron: Sorry, fructose intolerance is actually a thing.


Yeah, but no one is talking about it.
No one is adopting it.
2014-07-08 09:17:22 AM  
1 votes:

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.


Because it is a chance to show quasi-intellectual (and therefore moral) superiority.
2014-07-08 09:16:26 AM  
1 votes:

Fibro: frankmanhog: Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.

I don't get your post.  Are you jealous that this guy has the physical prowess to Crossfit and the discipline to eat a consistently clean diet, and you do not? Where's the hate coming from?

I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet.  Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.


What was before? Atkins and Pilates?
2014-07-08 09:14:30 AM  
1 votes:
TyrantII:

... egg white ...

(with low fat cheese)


Stopped reading right there.

/real food or gtfo
2014-07-08 09:13:20 AM  
1 votes:
It's not called Celiac, or Celiacs, or Celiac's. Coeliac is apparently an old Greek word that translates to "abdominal". Sufferers are not "Celiac"; they have Coeliac Disease.
2014-07-08 09:10:41 AM  
1 votes:

Gary-L: CruJones: No matter what your nutritionist told you, there is no test for gluten "sensitivity"

There sure is, but please, continue sharing your vast medical knowledge and experience.


Or not: http://www.celiaccentral.org/non-celi ac-gluten-sensitivity/testing-an d -diagnosis/
2014-07-08 09:08:48 AM  
1 votes:

frankmanhog: Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.


I don't get your post.  Are you jealous that this guy has the physical prowess to Crossfit and the discipline to eat a consistently clean diet, and you do not? Where's the hate coming from?

I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet.  Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.
2014-07-08 09:08:16 AM  
1 votes:

MindStalker: FTA: Jessie Dankos, a 24-year-old grant-management consultant who lives in Arlington, Va., felt bad for a woman she recently met at a wedding who has such a severe reaction to gluten that she has to check the labels on her shampoo to make sure that it doesn't contain traces of the substance.

What? That's not Celiac's which is an inability to digest gluton, either that's a severe allergic reaction to gluton, or this woman is crazy, I'm voting the later.


Hmmm  Who said she has Celiac?
2014-07-08 08:58:33 AM  
1 votes:

Muta: I think people like these special diets because it makes them stand out.  Everyone has to accommodate their needs so they get the trump card when selecting a restaurant.  It gives them power over the group.


Mediocre nobodies require constant drama in their lives in order to feel special.
2014-07-08 08:58:24 AM  
1 votes:

dready zim: She used to get bad circulation, headaches, tiredness (basically all the symptoms you get if you are starving yourself almost to the point of death) although many of these problems have gone away since she started eating properly for the baby...



You mean, ANEMIA?
2014-07-08 08:52:32 AM  
1 votes:

ebenbane: I actually hate gluten free fad dieters. They make me seethe with a deep rage.


Me too! Whenever I hear someone say they don't eat glutens, I puff out my chest, walk up to them and proudly proclaim that I am going to kill & eat TWO glutens to make up for the glutens that they don't eat!

Pussys.
2014-07-08 08:48:42 AM  
1 votes:

hej: thisdaydreamer: I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks.

I really want to know how other people choosing  not to eat something is a problem for you.


Because he is a fat farker
hej
2014-07-08 08:46:43 AM  
1 votes:

thisdaydreamer: I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks.


I really want to know how other people choosing  not to eat something is a problem for you.
2014-07-08 08:46:31 AM  
1 votes:

rikkards: DjangoStonereaver: Nuclear Monk: Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.

You've never had my mother in law's flourless chocolate cake.

It is so good that I have to actively curb myself from eating an entire cake in one sitting because A> that
would make me feel like the fat pig I am and I don't like that feeling and B> deprive my legitimately
diagnosed Celiac niece from one of life's truly great pleasures.

Buddy makes a vegan chocolate cake that is to die for. Wifey is allergic to wheat (thank god not celiac) and eggs the one benefit for the gluten-free fad is that it makes it easier to find alternatives. hard part is finding things that don't use eggs as well.


Indeed; in my nieces' brief life the labelling of food has come leaps and bounds forward, which is a boon
to people with legit allergies and food sensitivities.

Still, though, the labelling only goes so far:  for example, anything with 'carmel coloring' or 'natural flavors'
generally are gluten (coming from wheat products), as is 'malto-dextrin', which is generally wheat sugar.
I have seen things that had 'GLUTEN FREE!' on the label with these as ingredients.

However, as my niece used to point out obsessively when she was a young child, Tootsie Rolls are
gluten free.
2014-07-08 08:46:26 AM  
1 votes:
My oldest son is disabled and needs to eat an IBS diet which among other things is gluten-free.  I'm thankful for the trend/fad because it means it's easier to shop for him.

Some gluten-free foods are pretty awful.
2014-07-08 08:45:08 AM  
1 votes:

thisdaydreamer: Ironically, two of my truly celiac friends were diagnosed after losing a dangerous amount of weight. They are both very happy to have gained weight (and therefore not stuck in a program with anorexics).



I've known one person who really and truly had Celiacs. The guy was skinny as hell, just skin hanging off his skeleton.  He looked sick and fragile all the time.   He was physically weak, too.

Then he was diagnosed with Celiacs.  Immediately, he gained weight and his life improved dramatically overnight.   The difference in him before diagnosis is remarkably different from the him after diagnosis.
2014-07-08 08:40:28 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: Things Farkers tend to dislike:

1.  Hypochondriac fad-hopping attention-seekers.
2.  Companies that exploit #1.


3. Things that do not fit into thier world view
2014-07-08 08:40:19 AM  
1 votes:

dready zim: Slives: dready zim: ...
Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.
...

I hope that is you being sarcastic and don't actually believe that potatoes have gluten...

is is me being sarcastic but it is also what she actually said...


I wonder if there was some sort of hilarious misunderstanding because you can't eat french fries (due to contamination with breaded fried things) in most restaurants. She doesn't sound the brightest to try vegan and gluten free (my celiac vegetarian friends eventually gave up the vegetarian part because they liked to be able to eat every once in a while), so I could see that happening.
2014-07-08 08:38:48 AM  
1 votes:

vudukungfu: HeartBurnKid: Or did you really think that "roast beef" you were buying was 100% beef?

I watched him slice it off the top round.
Cooked on premises.

I'm a bit picky.
that's why I'm single


So where was the "gluten free" label?  Was it on the butcher's smock?
2014-07-08 08:35:53 AM  
1 votes:
It's all about attention most of the time. Same thing happened during the carb craze, the no carb craze, the corn syrup craze, the no corn syrup phase...blah blah blah.
Some people love to claim they're just a little different. Not different enough to be WEIRD, mind you, but just different enough with their food that they can treat it like some sort of exclusive club and constantly demonstrate their attention whoring every time a snack or meal choice is presented.
2014-07-08 08:35:22 AM  
1 votes:

Technoir: dready zim: One more thing, the diet I propose has no `banned` foods, you can eat anything you like but if you mix carbs and fat, protein and salt, or fat and salt you will need to regulate your calories (portion size) consciously as your body will not regulate them by itself so you *will* want to overeat.

Either eat them mindfully, sparingly or avoid them.

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

EIP


I got them from `fat vs sugar`, a horizon programme on UK TV where two doctors (who are also twins) changed their diet for a month and one cut out fat and one cut out carbs to see the health effects of both and to see which wqas causing the rising tide of obesity. They did endurance tests and other tests during the month, looked at their appetite and did tests on themselves after a month.

They found the no fat diet lead a person to produce LESS insulin and become MORE sensitive to it, leading to more efficient processing of carbs, weight loss through appetite regulation and loss of fat. Apart from the missing nutrients in the fats there were no negative effects.

They found the no carbs diet lead a person to produce MORE insulin and become LESS sensitive to it, leading to less efficient processing of carbs, weight loss through appetite regulation and loss of fat AND MUSCLE.

Turns out that eating no carbs is putting you on the road to diabetes (increased insulin production + reduced sensitivity to insulin) and you lose about as much muscle as fat on the diet (because you eat your muscle to produce ketones for energy). It was seen as having a negative effect on health and not recommended.

They also looked at an experiment with rats where they were fed three extreme diet supplements. They had normal food and either a lump of fat (butter) a lump of carbs (sugar) or a mix of both (cheesecake)

with the lump of fat they would eat a bit of it but mostly eat their normal food and maintained a normal weight.

with the lump of sugar they would eat a bit of it but mostly eat their normal food and maintained a normal weight.

with the 50/50 mix of carbs and fat they would exclusively eat the carbs/fat mix (just grazing, not eating a full meal) and not eat their normal food and gained a huge amount of weight from not managing their calorie intake...

Draw your own conclusions but the ones I drew have lead me to not diet and still lose weight and not smell and have good energy levels and also eat what I like and maintain muscle mass easily etc...
2014-07-08 08:28:17 AM  
1 votes:
Things Farkers tend to dislike:

1.  Hypochondriac fad-hopping attention-seekers.
2.  Companies that exploit #1.
2014-07-08 08:27:50 AM  
1 votes:

wren337: Onkel Buck: If Someone Ever Tells You They Have A Gluten Allergy, Show Them This

My good friends 10 year old was diagnosed by an actual doctor with celiac.  They went to Fridays which has a large, prominent gluten free menu.  He was served a burger with a regular bun, ate half and then projectile vomited all over the place.


As mentioned above my wife isn't celilac but has been diagnosed with a mild allergy to wheat. It isn't bad enough that if she gets exposed through cross contamination but if she eats a wheat bun she will know a short time that she did later in the bathroom. As with allergies, more exposure can make the reaction get worse so she avoids it as much as she can.  She can eat gluten (i.e kamut) but it is easier to find gluten-free products.
What was surprising was finding a vodka that isn't grain-based nowadays. We found a couple but it was amazing to see how many are.

But yeah there are people who have got on the gluten bad bandwagon for no reason
2014-07-08 08:25:52 AM  
1 votes:

TheGogmagog: One person chooses a gluten free food and everyone builds this straw-man image of that person being a douche to waiters for no reason.


Most people are douches to waiters,
except ex kitchen staffers.
2014-07-08 08:25:12 AM  
1 votes:

bearcats1983: I'm an event manager for a medium sized company, dealing with everyone's "diet restrictions" can be a huge pain in the ass. Look, there's no way a third of the room is gluten free, vegan or both (somehow...). I'm empathetic if you have a medical issue and will get sick. To make people accommodate your fad diet of the week is really annoying though.


This.

Once had to order in a couple dozen lunches for an invite only post seminar gathering for select clients as a way to say thanks. Simple boxed lunch, sandwich, chips, etc...a few days prior they had to call and confirm if they were coming and what they wanted. One lady demanded that we alter the pre-determined catered menu to meet her "condition". She claimed the gluten free thing was on the same level as having a disability. I know of her outside of her profession, funny how this gluten free thing didn't apply to her slamming beers on a restaurant patio the prior week.
2014-07-08 08:17:55 AM  
1 votes:
90% of this fad is the result of marketing.  having known several people with horrible gluten allergies, there was a real market there that food companies suddenly seized on.  it all just kind of snowballed from there and gluten became the new carbs.  remember when everything was low-carb?  remember when everything was low-fat?

the moral of the story is; fad diets have been around forever, you'll get over it.  now put down the fork and take a walk fatty.
2014-07-08 08:17:53 AM  
1 votes:

Pathman: Cold_Sassy: If your thing these days is Celiac disease you should really think about:  What if I had [any type of] cancer/a brain tumor/lost a limb [or two] in the war and QUIT FARKING WHINING about you so-called ailment.

uh, what if that "so-called ailment" is Celiac disease?


How about dealing with it?  If this is all that is 'wrong' with you, consider yourself lucky.
2014-07-08 08:15:06 AM  
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thisdaydreamer: Czechzican: Later on she'll lament that she is having so many issues losing weight and can't understand why.

Ironically, two of my truly celiac friends were diagnosed after losing a dangerous amount of weight. They are both very happy to have gained weight (and therefore not stuck in a program with anorexics).

I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks. Does your digestive tract do its job? Fantastic. Now shut the hell up and eat the stuff you whine so much about missing. Don't worry. You'll have another fad diet to follow and complain about in a few months, and maybe that one won't be so damn insulting to people with a serious, life-threatening illness.


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2014-07-08 08:13:03 AM  
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seancakes: Hector Remarkable: It's not so much what people are eating, it's what is coming out of their ass and how fast it's coming out, and in what manner it's coming out. Of their ass. Very little mention in the article about asses, and how things come out of them, but this is a real reason many people change their diets.

You mean like gold pocketwatches?  Because I hear those are pretty uncomfortable to have in one's ass.


Hmmm, maybe these gluten intolerant people will buy ass-pocket watches to put up their asses to help them with things they are intolerant to from coming out of their asses in an unprescribed manner. i229.photobucket.com
2014-07-08 08:03:56 AM  
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DjangoStonereaver: Nuclear Monk: Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.

You've never had my mother in law's flourless chocolate cake.

It is so good that I have to actively curb myself from eating an entire cake in one sitting because A> that
would make me feel like the fat pig I am and I don't like that feeling and B> deprive my legitimately
diagnosed Celiac niece from one of life's truly great pleasures.


Buddy makes a vegan chocolate cake that is to die for. Wifey is allergic to wheat (thank god not celiac) and eggs the one benefit for the gluten-free fad is that it makes it easier to find alternatives. hard part is finding things that don't use eggs as well.
2014-07-08 08:03:06 AM  
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Nuclear Monk: Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.


i disagree.
they put my oldest on a gluten-free diet for 6 months when he was a little guy (enteropathy-related illnesses, especially celiac's are common with the Irish) and I was forever getting trouble for eating the gluten-free snacks my wife would buy.
they were awesome!

of course i also get in trouble for eating the regular snacks my wife buys as well...
i think it simply adds about a 95% price increase.
2014-07-08 08:00:50 AM  
1 votes:
"Sometimes, I think it's just for him to be cool in front of the waiters."

I don't think this make the waiters think you're cool. If anything, It probably makes they think you're a pretentious asshole.
2014-07-08 07:56:51 AM  
1 votes:

Onkel Buck: If Someone Ever Tells You They Have A Gluten Allergy, Show Them This


My good friends 10 year old was diagnosed by an actual doctor with celiac.  They went to Fridays which has a large, prominent gluten free menu.  He was served a burger with a regular bun, ate half and then projectile vomited all over the place.
2014-07-08 07:55:24 AM  
1 votes:

verbaltoxin: We still have fat-free/low fat stuff all over the shelves


Yep, all the fat is waddling down the chips and cookies aisle.
With crotch gobblins.
]
Who is putting the wood to all these tubs of lard?
There is no self responsibility or self respect anymore.

"Imma git fat and pound out some crib puppies and eat all day" seems to the be whole of life's ambition for many young women out there.

But first, the "Go though college on someone else's dime and shove my malformed, uneducated opinions upon all those around me"

Face it. we don't just take care of the mentally ill in this country. We cater to them.
2014-07-08 07:51:06 AM  
1 votes:
I used to think I was lactose intolerant, but it turned out I'm intolerant of pretty much everything.
2014-07-08 07:44:23 AM  
1 votes:

Zenith: ebenbane: I actually hate gluten free fad dieters. They make me seethe with a deep rage.

I have gluten intolerance and why any one would fad diet it is beyond me. feel free to slap them about.


Because people can be dumb sometimes.  I don't mind stores and restaurants offering gluten-free options since there are actually people that need them, but I think a lot of people heard about gluten free and thought it was inherently healthier when the truth is not necessarily.
2014-07-08 07:43:49 AM  
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vudukungfu: I was just picking up lunch-meat for my sammiches in the store.
Ham, Turkey, roast beef, all labeled Gluten free.
Really?

What's next?
Fructose intolerance?

Nation of pussies.
If you have a dietary issue that is real and proven, that's one thing, but when the nation turns on whims, fads, and made up BS like a religion, then you see crap like labeling apples "Gluten Free" as marketing gimmicks.

And that's why we can't have nice things.


We still have fat-free/low fat stuff all over the shelves, even though it's been shown eating fat doesn't make you fat, and in fact fat is something you need and helps you feel full, so you don't eat as much.

/Skim milk is just f*cking milk water. They used to throw it out until dairies learned that they could sell it as "fat free" milk.
2014-07-08 07:43:26 AM  
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Gaylord Fister: fark these people. I hope they die. I hope there's some kind of famine, and the only thing to eat is a bag of wheat that you get from the government like once per year. (whiny voice) "Uh, excuse me, do you have something gluten free?" Yeah, dirt. Eat farking dirt, you gluten freetard.

I'm farking sick that 99.9% of the people have to cater to the whims of retarded farking minorities. You're allergic to peanuts? I don't give a shiat. It's your own farking business. Grow and cook all your own food then.


You must not be that farking sick if you care about the .1%.
2014-07-08 07:32:49 AM  
1 votes:
FTFA, "In the '50s, everyone had ulcers," he says. "Then, it was back problems. Now, it's gluten."

Well people still have stomach problems now known as GERD, and back problems never went away, just fewer surgeries and fewer bad backs from less manual labor.   Bad examples.
A few people don't eat gluten, most are trying to find out if they have food allergies or intolerance.
I just say low-carb since that is generally accepted as a way to stop being fat.
2014-07-08 07:24:57 AM  
1 votes:
I actually hate gluten free fad dieters. They make me seethe with a deep rage.
2014-07-08 07:22:05 AM  
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Cold_Sassy: I eat pizza all the time.  It is my favorite food.  Of course, I have never claimed I had Celiac disease.  Why is spellchecker tagging Celiac as a typo?


Not in it's library, possibly. Just add it in there.
2014-07-08 07:17:49 AM  
1 votes:
They have gluten-free pizza...
 
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