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(Washington Post)   The backlash against gluten free dieting has begun as people who claim to be Celiac are told to eat a pizza once in a while   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 480
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2014-07-08 01:23:16 PM  

udhq: HeadLever: udhq: Gluten-free dieters are like hipsters: the only thing worse than gluten-free dieters are the insufferable twats that just HAVE to let every one around them know how annoyed and offended they are at other peoples' dietary choices.

lol.

Project much?

The people who biatch and moan about gluten free dieters just do it because they want attention, and they want to seem above it all.

/Not gluten free, just think the precious little "stop liking what I don't like" busybodies should mind their own damn business.


It's not a matter of "stop liking what I don't like."

It's a matter of protecting the weakest in our society who are becoming victims of snake-oil marketers. Trend-diet book marketers and naturopaths should be cast out of society and people who follow them should be ridiculed.
 
2014-07-08 01:24:06 PM  

Carn: Technoir: hardinparamedic: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

Quinn's ashes set on our piano as a reminder of how deadly of a disease this is. And shame on you for not being more concerned with that.

Uh, I don't see any posts (maybe i missed one or two) that are vilifying legitimate sufferers of Celiac Disease or gluten sensitivity/intolerance.  In fact, there's a lot of sympathy for them.

The thread seems aimed at the asshats and douchetards who've jumped on the gluten-free bandwagon, and take every opportunity to let those around them know they are eating gluten-free. 

As someone who has apparently lost a loved one to Celiac Disease, doesn't it bother you that the medically-confirmed illness that killed your family member is being co-opted by a bunch of attention-whoring fad-tards who just want to seem cool while inconveniencing everybody around them?

I'm pretty sure he was joking, since he brought up the old fark joke about Quinn.  I think posting the pic is still a bannable offense?  Or at least earns you a fark holiday.


Woops! I have no idea about the Quinn joke. Did i just commit some sort of "fark pas"?
 
2014-07-08 01:24:18 PM  
Celeriac pizza, anyone?

lh5.ggpht.com
 
2014-07-08 01:25:06 PM  
I have to deal with fussy eaters in my own family. Some of the likes and dislikes they have make absolutely no sense.

They hate things they have never even tried, and then they lhae to whine like a goddamn fire siren about it, which makes it incredibly patience-trying.
 
2014-07-08 01:27:45 PM  

dready zim: Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.

This is very true. It is exactly this that makes it so annoying when people without celiac have to tell everyone they know everything they have been eating.

My friend brought his GF round. Either she will die soon or is hypochondriac. She is vegetarian and gluten free and a complete pain in the ass.

Never happy, always complaining. They tried for a baby but unfortunately the first one miscarried because she was not eating properly.

Luckily she is dating my friend who takes no shiat in many areas (god knows what he is doing with her) and he made her eat real food before they tried again (now they have a lovely little girl)

Anyway, when he brought her round it was like a game of guess and tell with a depressed mute. You would ask her what she *could* eat and she would just say what she could *not* eat (not helpful, thanks) then if you suggested foods she would eliminate all of them based on various dietary restrictions.

Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.

There was literally nothing she would accept to eat. So we took her and him to a restaurant and told her to order what she liked (just to see) she ordered fish with a herb butter and potatoes...

As I say, complete pain in the ass.

To me she typifies the food obsessed whiny farkers who found out as a child that complaining got them better food and they took it to a mental level as an adult.

I don`t care what you eat. Spend loads on foods that don`t really give you any benefit or offset any deficit. I don`t care.

Just shut up about it. I don`t want to know unless I am cooking you food in which case list what you CAN eat and still shut up about what you can`t...


I have one food allergy, so it's easier for me to say what I can't have because it's super simple: I can't eat anything with mushrooms. I'm happy to eat whatever you stick in front of me if I'm your guest, I only ask that you warn me if a certain thing has mushrooms in it so I can avoid it and the tingling that says my throat is swelling. I can't stand people like your friend's gf because they make everyone roll their eyes at those of us with legit allergies.
 
2014-07-08 01:28:00 PM  

HeadLever: So are you the pot or the kettle?


I'm the guy who thinks everyone should just live their lives how they see fit, and stop getting bent out of shape at other people doing the same.
 
2014-07-08 01:28:24 PM  

hej: meat0918: No more good pizza.  No more good beer.  And if he accidentally had some gluten, it was hospital time for him, and he had no insurance at the time.

Which makes his contempt for other people ordering gluten free food rather odd, since common sense suggests it would lower the odds of cross contamination with his food.


It's the boy who cried wolf problem. There are so many fakers that restaurants stop taking your protestations seriously, and you end up with a full gluten meal.
 
2014-07-08 01:29:08 PM  

Technoir: Carn: Technoir: hardinparamedic: There are few times when Farkers embarrass me. This is one of them.

God forbid any of you ever have to live through something of this nature. I hope you never have to answer the phone and hear your inconsolably weeping wife on the other end of the line as she mutters the only words she is able to muster "they cant find a heartbeat".

Anyone who does the "welcome to fark" meme can DIAF.

Quinn's ashes set on our piano as a reminder of how deadly of a disease this is. And shame on you for not being more concerned with that.

Uh, I don't see any posts (maybe i missed one or two) that are vilifying legitimate sufferers of Celiac Disease or gluten sensitivity/intolerance.  In fact, there's a lot of sympathy for them.

The thread seems aimed at the asshats and douchetards who've jumped on the gluten-free bandwagon, and take every opportunity to let those around them know they are eating gluten-free. 

As someone who has apparently lost a loved one to Celiac Disease, doesn't it bother you that the medically-confirmed illness that killed your family member is being co-opted by a bunch of attention-whoring fad-tards who just want to seem cool while inconveniencing everybody around them?

I'm pretty sure he was joking, since he brought up the old fark joke about Quinn.  I think posting the pic is still a bannable offense?  Or at least earns you a fark holiday.

Woops! I have no idea about the Quinn joke. Did i just commit some sort of "fark pas"?


I think you're off the hook since people get in trouble for the best part of it so it's not referenced that often.  No foul for not knowing an inside joke :)
 
2014-07-08 01:30:48 PM  
I have diagnosed IBS and I have to say I do feel for people who truly have digestive issues.  It is horrible and embarrassing.  A long long time ago in a galaxy far away, I went on a date with this nice guy.  It was our third date I think.  We had stuffed crust pizza which was a new thing at the time.  (I had an onion on my belt.)    After we got to his apartment, I was horrified to realize:  1.   my GI tract did not like fact I had just ingested so much cheese,  2.   his bathroom had no windows or air freshener, and  3.   the walls were very very thin.  It was absolutely mortifying. I mean honestly I think  the fart concert  rendered him speechless for like five minutes while all I could is apologize profusely and feel bad because he was going to have to repaint his bathroom.  (God, undigested cheese stinks to holy hell.)     Honestly, I can't believe he later married me.
 
2014-07-08 01:32:07 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: Have you seen all the biatching about high fructose corn syrup as a sweetner? Not from the people that say it doesn't taste as good as sugar.... but from the people who say it's killing us?


I've only heard it from people saying it doesn't taste as good as sugar and people who have legitimate complaints about the monoculture of corn. The corn industry isn't helping with that commercial they have where they say that cane sugar and high fructose corn syrup are exactly the same thing. Different molecules.
 
2014-07-08 01:33:28 PM  

varnigus: I like that approach. Probably since you have a real issue (and not the self-diagnosed nonsense that drew the ire of my initial post) and you demonstrate knowledge of your condition and how to combat it, people are quite willing to make sure you are comfortable. Part of it is probably how much of a mystery someone's dietary restrictions can be to people without them, so giving a list of specifics takes a lot of stress out of the ordeal.

I have only very rarely met people with real, medically diagnosed issues. For others, I've taken to placebos (I swear this pizza crust is gluten-free, and that's lactose-free cheese, too).


Never mind having an actual medical issue, it's not being a dick.  Vegitarians, vegans, dieters, etc. can all adhere to a diet quietly.

Careful with the placebo test.  I can and will make a house smell funny for extended periods of time.  Best case scenario is me doubled over for an hour or so in pain.
 
2014-07-08 01:34:38 PM  

kicksmile: Please don't be a denier. It's hard enough to live as a pariah and explain your condition to strangers without having to comfort some asshat who is annoyed by the words "Gluten Free" on menus. My own and other celiac's sufferers lives are filled with more annoyances than seeing something on occasion, I promise you.


I will definitely have a beer for you, my friend.  I once asked my brother in law about how hard it was
having to deal with his daughter's Celiac, and he basically said that he fervently wished that she could
live a completely normal life, but that he wanted to do his damnedest to make sure that she got as close
to living a normal life as possible, and he's done a heroic job of it as far as I can see.

But, take heart:  there is are beers you can enjoy without burning out your villi.
 
2014-07-08 01:35:17 PM  

mike_d85: Vegitarians, vegans, dieters, etc. can all adhere to a diet quietly.


citation needed.
 
2014-07-08 01:35:36 PM  

tartcake: I can't believe he later married me.


I think he pretty much had  to after that.
you don't get too many chances to pick your "so...how did you and tartcake hook up?" stories.
 
2014-07-08 01:35:46 PM  
Hey gluten free dieters:
rlv.zcache.com
 
2014-07-08 01:36:38 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: It's a matter of protecting the weakest in our society who are becoming victims of snake-oil marketers. Trend-diet book marketers and naturopaths should be cast out of society and people who follow them should be ridiculed.


The same could be said for literally millions of other life choices.  If someone wants to be gluten free, or kosher or vegetarian, or eat nothing but panda-farted grass clippings, what business is it of anyone elses'?

Yes, when I hear the word "inflamation", my brain assumes what follows is bullshiat, and shuts down, just like when it hears "toxins".  But people believe a lot of stupid shiat, and they're free to do so.  They have the same access to information as anybody else, and they've made their choices.  Getting offended at gluten-free dieters just seems like such an arbitrary place to draw the line between acceptable wrong beliefs and unacceptable wrong beliefs.  Why not throw fits about kosher diets, or astrology, or multivitamins, or Jesus, for that matter?
 
2014-07-08 01:38:53 PM  
i normally ask for extra msg and a side of gluten.

fark kale.
 
2014-07-08 01:39:54 PM  

tartcake: I have diagnosed IBS and I have to say I do feel for people who truly have digestive issues.  It is horrible and embarrassing.  A long long time ago in a galaxy far away, I went on a date with this nice guy.  It was our third date I think.  We had stuffed crust pizza which was a new thing at the time.  (I had an onion on my belt.)    After we got to his apartment, I was horrified to realize:  1.   my GI tract did not like fact I had just ingested so much cheese,  2.   his bathroom had no windows or air freshener, and  3.   the walls were very very thin.  It was absolutely mortifying. I mean honestly I think  the fart concert  rendered him speechless for like five minutes while all I could is apologize profusely and feel bad because he was going to have to repaint his bathroom.  (God, undigested cheese stinks to holy hell.)     Honestly, I can't believe he later married me.


Maybe he's into that sort of thing.
 
2014-07-08 01:40:14 PM  

udhq: Yes, when I hear the word "inflamation", my brain assumes what follows is bullshiat, and shuts down, just like when it hears "toxins".  But people believe a lot of stupid shiat, and they're free to do so.


It's not the people who believe the stupid shiat that gets on my nerves. They're victims of scammers.

It's people who make money by convincing people of stupid shiat.

Grifters should not be rewarded.
 
2014-07-08 01:40:26 PM  

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.


They make it the business of the general public when they spout off about it.  If you have a gluten allergy, the only people that need to know are you, your doctor and anyone who might be serving you food. To declare it at every opportunity is to invite backlash.
 
2014-07-08 01:41:35 PM  

Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.


I'm a chef, it's exactly my business what goes into someone else's mouth.
 
hej
2014-07-08 01:42:14 PM  

This text is now purple: hej: meat0918: No more good pizza.  No more good beer.  And if he accidentally had some gluten, it was hospital time for him, and he had no insurance at the time.

Which makes his contempt for other people ordering gluten free food rather odd, since common sense suggests it would lower the odds of cross contamination with his food.

It's the boy who cried wolf problem. There are so many fakers that restaurants stop taking your protestations seriously, and you end up with a full gluten meal.


Ordering gluten free food and claiming to have a gluten allergy is not the same thing.
 
2014-07-08 01:43:01 PM  
odd, I work in the bakery at a large chain grocery store, and we have a well-stocked section of gluten-free products which tend to fly off the shelf on a regular basis.  I'd guess that 99% of the people who go gluten-free are doing it because they are jumping on the bandwagon.  The 1% that actually are Celiac can be picked out: they conform to a certain criteria.  They are, as a whole, not fat slobbering fools who think cutting out 2 proteins will help them lose weight.

So, the number of americans with Celiac disease is about 2 million, out of about 350 million, so that's less than 1%. so of the 600k people in Denver, 6000 have celiac disease, and according to my own research, there's probably about 5000-6000 more who are gluten intolerant.  So, at best, 12000 people actually have reactions to the protein complex.  Why are so many people restricting their diets to such a degree?

I have two idiots in the family who are on the Paleo diet, one of which is in the healthcare field, and who's wife is a nurse.  She thinks he's being stupid, but the weight loss speaks for itself.  I have the sneaking suspicion she sneaks real food into his diet when he's not paying attention.

I am on the see-food diet.  I see food, I eat it.  I am still 20-25 pounds underweight(depending on the day).

/the chubby girls at work hate me
//there are a lot of chubby girls at work
 
2014-07-08 01:43:13 PM  

This text is now purple: mike_d85: Vegitarians, vegans, dieters, etc. can all adhere to a diet quietly.

citation needed.


"can" and "do" are 2 very different things.  Vegans turn grey though, so you'll always be able to spot them.
 
2014-07-08 01:43:21 PM  
dojomouse.com
 
2014-07-08 01:46:45 PM  

Cold_Sassy: The problem is that you never hear from the people who actually have Celiac Disease, it's just the stupid attention-whore glommers on this fad is what diminishes the impact of this disease.  When I was a kid I had a friend who had this and neither she nor her parents ever demanded special attention for her, they just got food she could eat.  Problem solved.


did you tell your friend that she was lucky that was all that was wrong with her?
 
2014-07-08 01:51:43 PM  
I actually started buying some gluten free products because I actually like them better. For example there is a brand of gluten free panko that comes out much better when baking breaded things. I also like some of the pastas on occasion.
 
2014-07-08 01:53:29 PM  

dustygrimp: Egoy3k: Why is everybody so invested in what other people eat.  If they have highly restricted diets then they need to understand that accommodating them will be difficult for others and have some patience with them. Likewise everybody else needs to relax about what other people are eating because it's none of our business what goes into someone else's mouth.

They make it the business of the general public when they spout off about it.  If you have a gluten allergy, the only people that need to know are you, your doctor and anyone who might be serving you food. To declare it at every opportunity is to invite backlash.


You'd be amazed how much grey area is in there.  People share food, it's a socially healthy group building activity.  People bring a box of donuts and offer it to you.  If you say no without a reason, you're a dick.  Some people assume a diet and say "will one KILL you?" and you have to tell them it would send you home for the rest of the day.  Actually, I was once stuck at work because I couldn't not poop long enough to commute home.

Same for the office cake for a birthday, except with 30 people in the room.  People immediately follow with a question and you have to answer.  Questions like "what happens if you eat it" are touchy because most people don't want to hear about shiating undigested food right before eating.  I try to dodge with things like "I'll tell you after you eat" but some people just have to hear a justifiable reason.  I don't give a fark, I'll ruin everyone's lunch by grossing you out if you push me.  My aunt will preach for 30 minutes about gluten because she genuinely enjoys doing it and she thinks that's somehow better.
 
2014-07-08 01:53:46 PM  

Robo Beat: Maybe he's into that sort of thing.



Robo Beat: tartcake:    Honestly, I can't believe he later married me.



his own fart concerts amuse him very much.    mine, not so much.
 
2014-07-08 01:53:58 PM  

tartcake: I have diagnosed IBS and I have to say I do feel for people who truly have digestive issues.  It is horrible and embarrassing.  A long long time ago in a galaxy far away, I went on a date with this nice guy.  It was our third date I think.  We had stuffed crust pizza which was a new thing at the time.  (I had an onion on my belt.)    After we got to his apartment, I was horrified to realize:  1.   my GI tract did not like fact I had just ingested so much cheese,  2.   his bathroom had no windows or air freshener, and  3.   the walls were very very thin.  It was absolutely mortifying. I mean honestly I think  the fart concert  rendered him speechless for like five minutes while all I could is apologize profusely and feel bad because he was going to have to repaint his bathroom.  (God, undigested cheese stinks to holy hell.)     Honestly, I can't believe he later married me.


Look, it was a third date.  He would have put up with a lot worse if it was otherwise going to go the way that most good third dates go.  I mean, he's a guy and all.
 
2014-07-08 01:56:22 PM  

lake_huron: tartcake: I have diagnosed IBS and I have to say I do feel for people who truly have digestive issues.  It is horrible and embarrassing.  A long long time ago in a galaxy far away, I went on a date with this nice guy.  It was our third date I think.  We had stuffed crust pizza which was a new thing at the time.  (I had an onion on my belt.)    After we got to his apartment, I was horrified to realize:  1.   my GI tract did not like fact I had just ingested so much cheese,  2.   his bathroom had no windows or air freshener, and  3.   the walls were very very thin.  It was absolutely mortifying. I mean honestly I think  the fart concert  rendered him speechless for like five minutes while all I could is apologize profusely and feel bad because he was going to have to repaint his bathroom.  (God, undigested cheese stinks to holy hell.)     Honestly, I can't believe he later married me.

Look, it was a third date.  He would have put up with a lot worse if it was otherwise going to go the way that most good third dates go.  I mean, he's a guy and all.


Like I said upthread - maybe he's into that sort of thing.  Is he perchance German?
 
2014-07-08 01:57:15 PM  

mike_d85: varnigus: I like that approach. Probably since you have a real issue (and not the self-diagnosed nonsense that drew the ire of my initial post) and you demonstrate knowledge of your condition and how to combat it, people are quite willing to make sure you are comfortable. Part of it is probably how much of a mystery someone's dietary restrictions can be to people without them, so giving a list of specifics takes a lot of stress out of the ordeal.

I have only very rarely met people with real, medically diagnosed issues. For others, I've taken to placebos (I swear this pizza crust is gluten-free, and that's lactose-free cheese, too).

Never mind having an actual medical issue, it's not being a dick.  Vegitarians, vegans, dieters, etc. can all adhere to a diet quietly.

Careful with the placebo test.  I can and will make a house smell funny for extended periods of time.  Best case scenario is me doubled over for an hour or so in pain.


I was kidding, but now that you mention it, it would be fun to try, not to mention educational for all. I am an experimentalist, after all...
 
2014-07-08 02:00:49 PM  

kicksmile: Food Scientist and Celiac Sprue sufferer here!

This is not a joke for folks like myself.  The life of a Celiac person is hard enough without deniers or phony glutards (it is our word).  I have been through a full regiment of blood work and biopsies and can tell you gluten was in parts of my body it should not have been.  The pain of eating it now that I am clean is enough to lose sleep worrying over (see. any time I cannot vet a restaurant in advance).  I have to struggle daily to keep from getting ill on something that is more than common in the western diet and culture.

THAT SAID:

I don't wish or suggest my diet on anyone.  Eat what your body will allow you in moderation and diversity.  In fact have a beer for me, seriously.  I miss that sweet nectar of the God's more than you can imagine.  Nothing is quite as depressing as watching others eat and drink while you enjoy a water or worse, a cider.

Please don't be a denier.  It's hard enough to live as a pariah and explain your condition to strangers without having to comfort some asshat who is annoyed by the words "Gluten Free" on menus.  My own and other celiac's sufferers lives are filled with more annoyances than seeing something on occasion, I promise you.


had a college professor who had celiac disease.  I didn't know it, but the food I brought to class was torture for her.  I'm an italian cook(I'm actually Irish, but that never stopped me), and I can make some of the very best Italian dishes, and it was killing her to go to class and see what I made that day.

At the end of the semester, I broke down and asked her why she never took any of the offered food.  I learned her whole story, that day, and found out her husband had the same restrictions, which also included an issue with casein(protein found in all types of dairy).  Turns out she'd go home and tell her hubby about the dish I brought in that day, then they'd both go back to their restrictive diets.  On a whim, I prepared a dish for them, as a sort of, "Can I cook for someone with Celiac disease" thing.  I will never do that again.  The combination of the celiac disease and casein allergy created a whole new hell for a chef trying to make something for them.

/I feel for the real sufferers, but I have no pity for the pretenders
 
2014-07-08 02:05:03 PM  

lake_huron: Look, it was a third date.  He would have put up with a lot worse if it was otherwise going to go the way that most good third dates go.  I mean, he's a guy and all.


well, that to which you are referring happened on the second date, but you have a great point.


Robo Beat: Like I said upthread - maybe he's into that sort of thing.  Is he perchance German?


perhaps.  I'm not sure(;
 
2014-07-08 02:09:05 PM  

Wizzywig: BS. Statistically speaking it is unlikely that between the people in this thread that there are more than 4 people who actually have Celiac, and less than 10 people known by the entire body of this thread that have Celiac. If you think you know somebody with that--you likely don't. I want to see a farking doctor's note or stfu you WebMD self-diagnosing hypochondriac.

And yes, it IS annoying to see people talk about Celiac disease when they don't have it, and have no clue what they are talking about. It is dangerous and disrespectful to those who actuall have that disease.


That might be true in a random population sample, however a thread about gluten intolerance will show a bias toward people with celiacs disease and people who know someone with celiacs disease.
 
2014-07-08 02:13:02 PM  
I became allergic to seafood because it's healthier to be allergic to seafood, and it helps me lose weight.
 
2014-07-08 02:16:15 PM  
varnigus:
I was kidding, but now that you mention it, it would be fun to try, not to mention educational for all. I am an experimentalist, after all...

Go ahead.  I can upper deck you with a special sauce that will make you rue the day you tested me.

/Pun intended.
 
2014-07-08 02:30:01 PM  

wingedkat: Typhoid: dready zim: Slives: dready zim: ...
Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.
...

I hope that is you being sarcastic and don't actually believe that potatoes have gluten...

is is me being sarcastic but it is also what she actually said...

I wonder if there was some sort of hilarious misunderstanding because you can't eat french fries (due to contamination with breaded fried things) in most restaurants. She doesn't sound the brightest to try vegan and gluten free (my celiac vegetarian friends eventually gave up the vegetarian part because they liked to be able to eat every once in a while), so I could see that happening.

Wheat is also a common additive to instant mashed potatoes, instant oatmeal, and canned soups.

I have some sort of food insensitivity and considered wheat for a while. It was amazing what they put it in when I started looking.

Don't think that's what was going on here, sounds more like this woman was sick with an eating disorder like anorexia.


Food "intolerance" I mean.

Still don't know what it is, the first elimination diet suggested wheat products, but noticed some gluten free foods caused the same problems.

After adding back in low processed wheat cereals, beer, and fresh breads, I'm looking at the various preservatives commonly added to commercial baked goods.
 
2014-07-08 02:30:24 PM  
I have been doing a roughly 80%-90% paleo diet for a few years and it has been the best idea I have ever had.  I lost 30 extra pounds and keep it off without really trying at all.  Luckily I am not that into desserts or pasta.  I make an exception for beer and pizza once in a while.  I allow myself to eat, and enjoy, whatever someone makes for me.

I am not allergic, I just don't like the effects grain products and sugar have on my system.

I guess some people can be dicks about it but they are just dicks and as we all know, dicks will be dicks.  And haters gonna hate.
 
2014-07-08 02:39:04 PM  

mike_d85: varnigus:
I was kidding, but now that you mention it, it would be fun to try, not to mention educational for all. I am an experimentalist, after all...

Go ahead.  I can upper deck you with a special sauce that will make you rue the day you tested me.

/Pun intended.


Cheese fondue is made with rue. :D
 
2014-07-08 02:43:30 PM  

Headso: it's  odd how many people on fark.com have never met anyone with an actual food allergy and only know people who are faking it, you guys hang out with some weird mofos


No, what's weird is how many people show up on Fark threads claiming a BMI of 35 who have just finished their 20th marathon.

Healthy people with high BMIs exist.  Celiac sensitivity exists.  But both are quite rare...except on Fark.
 
2014-07-08 02:43:31 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: I have to deal with fussy eaters in my own family. Some of the likes and dislikes they have make absolutely no sense.

They hate things they have never even tried, and then they lhae to whine like a goddamn fire siren about it, which makes it incredibly patience-trying.


Oh lord I hate picky eaters.  My sister in law is breading one in my nephew.  He'll whine about not liking what everyone is having for dinner so she'll ask if he can have a hot dog.  Sigh... fine.  Then he'll whine about the hot dog and she'll offer to peal it for him.  One time he was complaining about the Mac and Cheese.  She asked if he wanted her to fill the holes in the macaroni?  Then she sliced very long thin strips of cheese and slid it inside the macaroni like a sheath.  I asked, "why the phark are you doing that?"  "That's the way he likes his mac and cheese."  She got pissed when pointed out that he'd never know that he liked it that way if she never gave it to him that way.
 
2014-07-08 02:45:32 PM  
I am 6'4, 170 pounds. I eat anything I want in any quantity. No dieting. And no exercise other than normal living. Im 33 and very healthy.

This is how:
Ignore all diets, especially nonsensical fad diets like paleo or gluten free
Use quality ingredients when possible
cook at home as much as possible
Ignore all fat/calorie content and cook for flavor (whole cream, lots of butter, no cutting fat off meat, etc)
Dont eat 3 meals a day, skip either breakfast or lunch. You only need 3 meals if you are extremely active (construction worker, stripper, etc), not for sitting on your ass in front of a computer.

and before you say I just have a fast metabolism...I lost over 100 pounds by slightly changing my eating habits. I was a fatso and now am a sexy God...or at least not a fatso anymore.
 
2014-07-08 02:48:10 PM  
I really have no problem with someone choosing to eat poop as long as it does not infringe on my food options or hurt anyone. The GF people are in such a small minority that it really is not affecting any items that us normies eat. And, I do not see a problem with businesses offering GF options. These people do not appear to be hurting themselves or anyone else. So by all means, continue your little anti-gluten movement! This seems like one of those media-manufactured outrages.
 
2014-07-08 03:06:31 PM  

vudukungfu: verbaltoxin: We still have fat-free/low fat stuff all over the shelves

Yep, all the fat is waddling down the chips and cookies aisle.
With crotch gobblins.
]
Who is putting the wood to all these tubs of lard?
There is no self responsibility or self respect anymore.

"Imma git fat and pound out some crib puppies and eat all day" seems to the be whole of life's ambition for many young women out there.

But first, the "Go though college on someone else's dime and shove my malformed, uneducated opinions upon all those around me"

Face it. we don't just take care of the mentally ill in this country. We cater to them.


...congratulations. This is actually the dumbest, least-informed opinion I've seen on Fark yet.
 
2014-07-08 03:11:39 PM  
About the guy who had gone paleo, then finally had some gluten and noticed how bad he felt.  Duh.  This is a pretty common occurrence when you deny your body something for a long time.

Yes, gluten free food trendies annoy me.  Yeah, the ones who don't have Celiac but are following the trend.  Eat too much processed wheat flour in the form of bread or pasta and yeah, you're going to feel tired after.  Doesn't mean you have a gluten sensitivity.  Try eating LESS of it.

If you really do have celiac disease, well, that's a different story.  I feel bad for them sense they can't enjoy delicious pizzas and pastas.  I've tried GF pasta and pizza and it's just, not, good.  Gluten is what gives dough it's elasticity.
 
2014-07-08 03:12:49 PM  

Muta: dready zim: o people not on a fad diet there isn`t much difference between no gluten, paleo, atkins or any of the fad diets.

It could be argued that your health benefits are probably coming more from doing regular exercise than your diet. You could be on pretty much any healthy diet that is not extreme, do exercise and feel the best you ever have.

That was my experience anyway, the exercise made me feel good and as a result I desired different foods but the different food desires were as a result of the exercise and feeling good, not the other way around.

I read somewhere (so you know it is true) that healthy weight loss is an 80:20 diet to exercise ratio.  You can burn 500 calories during an hour long, Zone 2 workout or you can consume 500 fewer calories by enjoying the 200 calorie egg white roll-up breakfast show above instead of a 700 calorie gut buster.


this is true but you are ignoring muscle mass, it`s role in health and your ability to use up calories, and the calories used up simply by having muscle mass which can outweigh a few hundred calories a day easily.

Fibro: Okay, I can see that. I fully believe, though, that you need both exercise and a solid diet. You can have either one, but exercising without eating right will impact your performance


I completely agree, you need a fairly balanced diet to get past a certain point when getting fit. Initially though I would say to just start doing exercise and keep your old diet. I found that doing the exercise made eating too much just feel bad (which it did not when I was not exercising) So I ate less as a result of doing the exercise and at that point I noticed my body craving really healthy things like complex carbs(not sugar), vegetables, carbs, anything with high protein but not too much fat, and carbs.

I found myself eating huge bowls of rice with fish and vegetables. After a while i noticed I was eating much more than I was eating when I was `overeating` I weighed about 3st less and had a lot more strength. Parts that had hurt for years had stopped hurting and I felt younger.

All the diet changes came from my body demanding I give it THAT! NOW! and the human body wants healthy stuff on the whole, it`s your mind that wants the bad foods. Most of the time the body sort of goes `well they aren`t doing anything strenuous so I don`t really care, sure let`s eat cupcakes` but when you make it need to build muscle and cope with exercise it gets a lot louder and more demanding. It`s what some people need, their mind is very good at demanding cupcakes...
 
2014-07-08 03:14:51 PM  

buckler: vudukungfu: Lenny_da_Hog: no GM wheat on the market,

None on this planet.
Quadrotriticale would make a killer beer, though.
/obs?

Yeah, but you'd have to drink it from a covered stein to keep the tribbles out.


t3.gstatic.com

This, also, no beer is ever obscure on Fark, for we leave no Stone unturned.
 
2014-07-08 03:22:47 PM  

PsiChick: vudukungfu: verbaltoxin: We still have fat-free/low fat stuff all over the shelves

Yep, all the fat is waddling down the chips and cookies aisle.
With crotch gobblins.
]
Who is putting the wood to all these tubs of lard?
There is no self responsibility or self respect anymore.

"Imma git fat and pound out some crib puppies and eat all day" seems to the be whole of life's ambition for many young women out there.

But first, the "Go though college on someone else's dime and shove my malformed, uneducated opinions upon all those around me"

Face it. we don't just take care of the mentally ill in this country. We cater to them.

...congratulations. This is actually the dumbest, least-informed opinion I've seen on Fark yet.


You're doing it wrong:

memecrunch.com
 
2014-07-08 03:24:33 PM  

Onkel Buck: If Someone Ever Tells You They Have A Gluten Allergy, Show Them This


Or, if they're anything like my friend with a wheat allergy, it touches their lips, they groan in agony, and punch the waiter in the crotch.
 
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