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2014-07-08 09:55:18 AM  
Celiacs?  What is that, Asterix's tribe?
www.andelot.eu
/by toutatis
 
2014-07-08 09:55:22 AM  
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2014-07-08 09:55:54 AM  
A friend of mine was complaining a while back that she thought she was becoming gluten sensitive because every time she ate some sort of bread product, she would get sick and throw up.

I made a joke saying "maybe you're just pregnant!" to which she did not think was very funny...

Turned out I was right... and she made a comment later that I suck at women...

I just shrug my shoulders...

I may not always be "right", but I'm never wrong!
 
2014-07-08 09:57:08 AM  

This text is now purple: Headso: gluten free bread is made using other kinds of flour, you can make a gluten free flour out of cannabis roots for instance.

I can make a gluten free flour out of sawdust shavings, too. Doesn't make it a good idea.


cannabis root is very elastic, I can imagine it making a pretty good flour.
 
2014-07-08 09:58:00 AM  
Diagnosed celiac here.. I love the fad, as it has made available good food for me. Also, it is smart for restaurants to make it easy for gluten free, as we bring our whole families with us, so it multiplies manifold the market.
Fyi., the most common decade for onset/diagnosis of celiac is the 4th decade of life. So it is common for someone to have to change diet later in life
 
2014-07-08 09:58:04 AM  
If someone tells you they can't eat gluten, tell them there's a promising cure in having another person's feces implanted into their colon. If they look disgusted instead of elated, they don't have Celiac's, and you should bob them on the head with a baguette repeatedly.
 
2014-07-08 09:58:17 AM  

nunyadang: I still think you are fat


Does my being overweight make you feel better? Fine. I'm fat. Go to town with that.

Now go to bed and let the adults talk.
 
2014-07-08 09:59:28 AM  
My ex-wife is a celiac.  She would get even a little bit of gluten she would be on the toilet for 4 hours in agony.  Some people will do anything for attention.
 
2014-07-08 10:01:17 AM  

MrSteve007: What bothers me are the people who claim an allergy or an intolerance to a substance, but it's entirely self diagnosed. Guess what? If you haven't been tested, you probably don't know what you're allergic to.

Also, those allergies can change over your life. And typically, to develop a resistance, you need to slowly introduce the said allergen over time, via exposure or increasing concentrations of subcutaneous injections. After a period of time, your immune system learns to live with it. Shunning the substance will likely make the allergy even worse (such as seasonal plant allergies).

/been tested several times
//spent years getting injections


For many it takes *several* passes of tests to find allergies, especially foods. My mother and sister both have severe food allergies (I have several) and some show up in the skin tests but not in the blood tests, some in the blood but not skin. Several things my mother is violently allergic to don't show up in any test, yet she can tell when something she eats has corn products in it within 30 minutes. It's damn hard to shop for her, and finding food she can eat is expensive and time consuming for a 70+ year old.

\most of her allergies worsened after a bad bacterial infection 20 years ago
\\the above information is for everyone else in the thread
\\\'cause I'm not pretending to myself you give a rat's ass
 
2014-07-08 10:01:23 AM  
lol crossfit. Enjoy your kipping "pull ups" and back pain from doing way too many reps of complex lifts with shiatty form
 
2014-07-08 10:01:32 AM  

thisdaydreamer: nunyadang: I still think you are fat

Does my being overweight make you feel better? Fine. I'm fat. Go to town with that.

Now go to bed and let the adults talk.


Do you as a fat person hate all skinny people and dieters, or just the gluties?
 
2014-07-08 10:03:04 AM  
I've been told by various glutards that my type 1 diabetes would clear right up if I cut out gluten because it causes a low level reaction that apparently makes my immune system weak and causes an autoimmune disease, and if I stop eating gluten that reaction will go away and the autoimmune disease will just fix itself right up.

/this is what these retards actually believe.
 
2014-07-08 10:03:22 AM  

vudukungfu: I was just picking up lunch-meat for my sammiches in the store.
Ham, Turkey, roast beef, all labeled Gluten free.
Really?

What's next?
Fructose intolerance?

Nation of pussies.
If you have a dietary issue that is real and proven, that's one thing, but when the nation turns on whims, fads, and made up BS like a religion, then you see crap like labeling apples "Gluten Free" as marketing gimmicks.

And that's why we can't have nice things.


If the lunch meat you are buying says "Gluten Free" on the package, they are either using it as a marketing gimmick to increase the price (since meat does not have gluten) , or they are adding grain-based fillers to the meat.

Either way, you are being cheated, and I'd avoid those products.
 
2014-07-08 10:04:20 AM  
I made this huge long post but it got eaten. Least it was gluten-free.

Anyway...

A year ago I was diagnosed with celiac disease via a blood antigen test and an upper gastrointestinal endoscopy. Since going on a gluten-free diet, I've discovered a few things.

1. I can definitely tell when I've eaten gluten because I spend the next few days visiting the toilet eleventy times a day, I want to sleep when I'm not on the toilet, and I get seriously emotionally unstable and irrational for some reason.

2. It's amazing the things I've found that do contain gluten. A rotisserie chicken I was going to buy turned out to have wheat starch. Pumpkin seeds had unbromated wheat flour. Even the peanuts on Southwest had wheat starch as an ingredient. I can't take anything for granted.

3. My parents are dumb and don't get what celiac disease or gluten is, though I've tried to explain. They can't get why I can't have white bread ("well it's not wheat bread right?"), why I can't have gravy, why I can't eat the butter if they've gotten toast crumbs in it, that brown sugar does not have gluten, etc., etc.

4. It's way easier for me to just bring my own food everywhere, but some people get remarkably defensive about that. They don't get that it isn't about them, it's about me not wanting to deal with the repercussions of my illness.

Fortunately, there is a pill in clinical trials that could help with the cross-contamination issues.  http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/CeliacDiseaseDrugs/fl/Alvine-Pharma - Celiac-Disease-Drug.htm
 
2014-07-08 10:04:54 AM  

CruJones: No matter what your nutritionist told you, there is no test for gluten "sensitivity"


That's because any jackass can call him- or herself a nutritionist; the people who might actually know something are called dieticians.

"In most US states, parts of Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom, the term nutritionist is not legally protected, whereas the title of dietitian can be used only by those who have met specified professional requirements." ~'pedia
 
2014-07-08 10:05:03 AM  

Czechzican: I have a friend on facebook that constantly shares gluten-free recipes for rubbish food, like cookies and cupcakes with a note saying she's going to make them that day and then eventually follows up saying how great they were and that her kids loved them,etc. Later on she'll lament that she is having so many issues losing weight and can't understand why.

After trying to explain to her that she is eating a lot of rubbish, she'll retort that gluten free cookies are much more healthier than regular cookies, so it can't possibly be the reason.

Some people...



These are like the people who say "I'm gonna lose weight by eating a salad for lunch everyday!".  Then they proceed to pour 1/4 cup of buttermilk ranch, 1/2 cup of cheese and a handful of garlic croutons on the thing and can't figure out why they still weigh 300lbs.

Their solution?  "Meh, guess it's time for gastric bypass!"
 
2014-07-08 10:06:15 AM  

czetie: I used to think I was lactose intolerant, but it turned out I'm intolerant of pretty much everything.


Me too, but really, I just like to fart loudly.

*lifts leg and leans*
 
2014-07-08 10:06:44 AM  

This text is now purple: Fibro: I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet. Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.

You really don't get the irony of that statement in conjunction with Crossfit, do you?

\enjoy your crippling chronic joint pain


Ah, yes.  I'm sure you will be in excellent condition for a long time by keeping your fat ass in a chair all your life. ;)

I'm just curious if you tried to Crossfit and gave up or never had the courage to try at all? You're clearly ignorant about the program.  Just like anything in life - it is what you make of it.  You can absolutely Crossfit without going overboard on range of motion or the weight you're lifting.
 
2014-07-08 10:07:11 AM  

The Homer Tax: DjangoStonereaver: rikkards: DjangoStonereaver: Nuclear Monk: Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.

You've never had my mother in law's flourless chocolate cake.

It is so good that I have to actively curb myself from eating an entire cake in one sitting because A> that
would make me feel like the fat pig I am and I don't like that feeling and B> deprive my legitimately
diagnosed Celiac niece from one of life's truly great pleasures.

Buddy makes a vegan chocolate cake that is to die for. Wifey is allergic to wheat (thank god not celiac) and eggs the one benefit for the gluten-free fad is that it makes it easier to find alternatives. hard part is finding things that don't use eggs as well.

Indeed; in my nieces' brief life the labelling of food has come leaps and bounds forward, which is a boon
to people with legit allergies and food sensitivities.

Still, though, the labelling only goes so far:  for example, anything with 'carmel coloring' or 'natural flavors'
generally are gluten (coming from wheat products), as is 'malto-dextrin', which is generally wheat sugar.
I have seen things that had 'GLUTEN FREE!' on the label with these as ingredients.

However, as my niece used to point out obsessively when she was a young child, Tootsie Rolls are
gluten free.

Maltodextrin doesn't have gluten in it. It's a polysaccharide, it's made up of nothing but a bunch of linked sugars. Gluten is a protein. That's why Foods with Maltodextrin in them can be labeled gluten free.


But, at least according to both Wikipedia and what my nieces' doctor advised, maltodextrin in Europe is
generally derived from wheat, and while it is usually derived from corn in the US.  Since one can ever tell
just where a given manufacturer got their supplies, my niece avoids it altogether on the off chance that
there is a bit of cross contamination (sort of like how most commercial oatmeal should be avoided by
Celiacs because while oats themselves are gluten free, they are usually stored in silos that also are used
to store wheat and thus are often cross contaminated).

Even with labeling, its a minefield.
 
2014-07-08 10:07:20 AM  

Muta: Muta: Ker_Thwap: Never had those side effects.  Possibly I had some other sort of bacteria causing the ulcer, but either way, I'd have gladly traded the considerable pain for having to manually monitor my food intake.

H. Pylori is a bacteria that can cause ulcers.  Removing it from your system helped you.  The human body didn't evolve with an ulcer causing bacteria in its gut just to dick with your head.  If that were the case then evolution would have eliminated it long ago.  The bacteria also has some health benefits which you are not experiencing now.  So heads up.


My point in bringing it up, is that the guy in the article seemed to imply that ulcers were caused by one's diet.
 
2014-07-08 10:07:40 AM  

dready zim: It`s the hypocritical way the guy basically said `your fad diet is wrong but my fad diet is right`.

To people not on a fad diet there isn`t much difference between no gluten, paleo, atkins or any of the fad diets.


To be fair, there is no diet plan that is NOT a fad anymore.  Your diet plan with random pairings of fat/salt/carbs/protein?  nothing proven or scientific behind that, let's call it your personal fad.  fat and salt are bad for you?  that fad ran out a long time ago.  vegan? carbo loading? more fads.  how about basic "eat healthy"?  biggest fad since what's healthy changes every few years.
 
2014-07-08 10:08:22 AM  

machoprogrammer: lol crossfit. Enjoy your kipping "pull ups" and back pain from doing way too many reps of complex lifts with shiatty form


I don't get the comment about the pull-ups. Crossfit modified them to target the core. What's the problem?
 
2014-07-08 10:08:37 AM  

Fibro: I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet. Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.


My younger sister used to do cross fit and paleo herself. I don't think she ever looked that good and she sang the gospel of the lifestyle. One of the selling points for her was that it's good for the skin and since she was 13 she's had terrible acne, still to this day (her 30th birthday is around the corner). Her various dermatologists all insisted that it is nothing more than an old wives tale that food can affect ones skin/acne issues. Well, after a few months on paleo not only did her skin finally clear up but some of her old bacne scars started to disappear or at least become less noticeable.

Then life happened, she fell off the wagon and in about 3 weeks of eating breads again her skin got oily again and the acne reared its ugly head. She's been trying to get back into cross fit and the diet but it's hard for a girl on her income and living alone to commit to it.

/cousin has a mild wheat allergy
//was a surprise to everyone when we learned her rosatia (sp?) was a result of eating certain kinds of glutens
 
2014-07-08 10:09:41 AM  

Fibro: moothemagiccow: Fibro: frankmanhog: Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.

I don't get your post.  Are you jealous that this guy has the physical prowess to Crossfit and the discipline to eat a consistently clean diet, and you do not? Where's the hate coming from?

I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet.  Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.

What was before? Atkins and Pilates?

Never touched the Atkins diet and I'm not flexible enough to do Pilates.  I assume you're asking so that you can make your life journey match my life journey so that one day you can achieve the same results.


I'm trying the New Atkins now, the one that allows for carbs and caffeine even in the induction phase. Been on it a week and having trouble getting below 25g of carbs...

They have a phone app that is supposed to help out a lot. Problem is that their phone app isn't very user friendly, and their barcode database is pretty weak as well.

I track a lot of the stuff through reading labels and doing the math and according to that, i'm always below 20g (which is where i should be).

Then later I go through and finally find the food I'm looking for in the app, and find out there's more carbs in the food than the label says. Most of the times it's because the label says 0 carbs, but then when i finally find it in the app, there's something like .75g of carbs per serving, or .9g. Turns out, if there's less than 1g they are allowed to label it as 0.

When you are trying to be as precise as 20g a day, having 3 servings of hidden .75 grams here and another couple servings of .6g there and suddenly I'm up to 25...

I'm about to go to the extreme so that I'm well below the 20g a day so that if there's some hidden carbs in my diet somewhere, I won't have to worry too much about it...
 
2014-07-08 10:11:32 AM  
The gluten-free diet is awesome for one simple reason, there are more gluten free menu options when going out to eat.

/Gluten makes my son shiat blood.
 
2014-07-08 10:12:00 AM  

Vangor: Either Chopin, which is potato based and therefore naturally gluten-free, or Tito's, which due to distillation procedures is gluten-free, are both excellent options if you haven't found a good enough vodka yet. The latter is less expensive and becoming increasingly more common.


All distilled alcohols are gluten free, even if distilled from wheat.
 
2014-07-08 10:12:18 AM  

El Dudereno: Ker_Thwap: El Dudereno: I tell people I'm gluten free so they don't bring me junk food.
We had a baby a few months ago, and everyone wanted to bring us a meal to help out. The gluten free thing meant they weren't just bringing us a pizza or a giant bowl of pasta, which isn't on our menu at home. Also we didn't get a metric ton of baked goods.
If I'd asked that no junk food was brought over, people would have ignored it.

/would have been better if they brought is diapers, but they wanted to feel more helpful than that
//would have been fine with them just coming over to have a look at the baby
///that's what they really wanted anyway

On one hand, no one likes to be lied to.  Had you told me the truth, I'd have brought you over something healthy. (hypothetically of course.)  On the other hand, some people are fat and stupid and think that fatty cooking is the only way they can express their love.

The second group is most of the people who "wanted to help out".
Funny thing is, Mrs. Dudereno doesn't cook anyway. I do. She was busy with the baby, and I could still make dinner for the family.
Also, I've found that 'healthy' means very different things to different people. Saying 'gluten free' gave them a much better idea.


I disagree, it could give them the exact wrong idea and it's kind of a jerk thing to do.  Had my daughter for instance had told me this, I'd have gone out and bought gluten free ingredients, spent extra hours preparing them, and potentially shown up at the door with a big fattening casserole, and some macarons.  Gluten free does not equate to healthy.
 
2014-07-08 10:13:36 AM  

Loreweaver: If the lunch meat you are buying says "Gluten Free" on the package, they are either using it as a marketing gimmick to increase the price (since meat does not have gluten) , or they are adding grain-based fillers to the meat.


A lot of deli meats have added cornstarch to them. Usually as part of the glaze so yeah, even buying lunch meat can be a bit of a gamble for people with allergies.
 
2014-07-08 10:16:57 AM  

Orgasmatron138: machoprogrammer: lol crossfit. Enjoy your kipping "pull ups" and back pain from doing way too many reps of complex lifts with shiatty form

I don't get the comment about the pull-ups. Crossfit modified them to target the core. What's the problem?


You're likely still young.  If you do pullups incorrectly, you'll tear out your shoulders eventually.

/Of course I have no idea why anyone would assume you're doing them incorrectly.
 
2014-07-08 10:17:25 AM  

Gaylord Fister: fark these people. I hope they die. I hope there's some kind of famine, and the only thing to eat is a bag of wheat that you get from the government like once per year. (whiny voice) "Uh, excuse me, do you have something gluten free?" Yeah, dirt. Eat farking dirt, you gluten freetard.

I'm farking sick that 99.9% of the people have to cater to the whims of retarded farking minorities. You're allergic to peanuts? I don't give a shiat. It's your own farking business. Grow and cook all your own food then.


How very unliberal of you.
 
2014-07-08 10:19:14 AM  

KatjaMouse: Her various dermatologists all insisted that it is nothing more than an old wives tale that food can affect ones skin/acne issues. Well, after a few months on paleo not only did her skin finally clear up but some of her old bacne scars started to disappear or at least become less noticeable.


i'm in a similar boat.  i've had moderate acne for over 20 years (i'm 35 now).  6 months ago i eliminated most of the meat from my diet (only on weekends and i'm highly selective), cut most refined sugar/grain and started rock climbing 2-3 days a week.  my skin looks better than it ever has.  maybe it's a coincidence, i don't know.
 
2014-07-08 10:20:07 AM  

eeyore102: I made this huge long post but it got eaten. Least it was gluten-free.

Anyway...

A year ago I was diagnosed with celiac disease via a blood antigen test and an upper gastrointestinal endoscopy. Since going on a gluten-free diet, I've discovered a few things.

1. I can definitely tell when I've eaten gluten because I spend the next few days visiting the toilet eleventy times a day, I want to sleep when I'm not on the toilet, and I get seriously emotionally unstable and irrational for some reason.

2. It's amazing the things I've found that do contain gluten. A rotisserie chicken I was going to buy turned out to have wheat starch. Pumpkin seeds had unbromated wheat flour. Even the peanuts on Southwest had wheat starch as an ingredient. I can't take anything for granted.

3. My parents are dumb and don't get what celiac disease or gluten is, though I've tried to explain. They can't get why I can't have white bread ("well it's not wheat bread right?"), why I can't have gravy, why I can't eat the butter if they've gotten toast crumbs in it, that brown sugar does not have gluten, etc., etc.

4. It's way easier for me to just bring my own food everywhere, but some people get remarkably defensive about that. They don't get that it isn't about them, it's about me not wanting to deal with the repercussions of my illness.

Fortunately, there is a pill in clinical trials that could help with the cross-contamination issues.  http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/CeliacDiseaseDrugs/fl/Alvine-Pharma - Celiac-Disease-Drug.htm


I've heard that rather than pills they were testing a Beano-type enzyme additive you put in food before
you eat it, but I'm mostly quoting you to re-emphasize the validity of everything you wrote.

My niece was diagnosed at 9 months old, so she has literally grown up knowing her limitations, and her
entire family has really embraced helping her along through it and making sure that despite the limits of
her condition she has had an absolutely normal childhood.
 
2014-07-08 10:20:20 AM  

lilplatinum: Vangor: Either Chopin, which is potato based and therefore naturally gluten-free, or Tito's, which due to distillation procedures is gluten-free, are both excellent options if you haven't found a good enough vodka yet. The latter is less expensive and becoming increasingly more common.

All distilled alcohols are gluten free, even if distilled from wheat.


While being lacking in gluten, being gluten-free tends to mean lack of cross-contamination for folks with celiac disease, which i snot true of all distilled alcohols; although reading back over the previous comment I apparently misread his wife as having the disease rather than an allergy, which makes finding a vodka she is able to tolerate all the more easy due to exactly what you just said.
 
2014-07-08 10:21:29 AM  

lilplatinum: I've been told by various glutards that my type 1 diabetes would clear right up if I cut out gluten because it causes a low level reaction that apparently makes my immune system weak and causes an autoimmune disease, and if I stop eating gluten that reaction will go away and the autoimmune disease will just fix itself right up.

/this is what these retards actually believe.


I'll bet you've been wasting your time with doctors and science.
 
2014-07-08 10:22:57 AM  
CSB: I get some serious GI issues when I eat some items with gluten - especially my gfs waffles and mac/cheese for some reason.  Wish I could figure it out, but switching to gluten-free doesn't completely help, and I love to eat things like waffles and pizza and mac and cheese so hopefully science will find a way around it.
 
2014-07-08 10:23:56 AM  

KatjaMouse: Fibro: I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet. Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.

My younger sister used to do cross fit and paleo herself. I don't think she ever looked that good and she sang the gospel of the lifestyle. One of the selling points for her was that it's good for the skin and since she was 13 she's had terrible acne, still to this day (her 30th birthday is around the corner). Her various dermatologists all insisted that it is nothing more than an old wives tale that food can affect ones skin/acne issues. Well, after a few months on paleo not only did her skin finally clear up but some of her old bacne scars started to disappear or at least become less noticeable.

Then life happened, she fell off the wagon and in about 3 weeks of eating breads again her skin got oily again and the acne reared its ugly head. She's been trying to get back into cross fit and the diet but it's hard for a girl on her income and living alone to commit to it.

/cousin has a mild wheat allergy
//was a surprise to everyone when we learned her rosatia (sp?) was a result of eating certain kinds of glutens


I hope she gets back into it on the exercise and the diet side of things.  I realize Crossfit can be expensive but it should be fairly easy to cut something else out of your lifestyle to accommodate a program that will make you look and feel so much better.  Best of luck to her. :)
 
2014-07-08 10:24:48 AM  

Fibro: This text is now purple: Fibro: I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet. Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.

You really don't get the irony of that statement in conjunction with Crossfit, do you?

\enjoy your crippling chronic joint pain

Ah, yes.  I'm sure you will be in excellent condition for a long time by keeping your fat ass in a chair all your life. ;)

I'm just curious if you tried to Crossfit and gave up or never had the courage to try at all? You're clearly ignorant about the program.  Just like anything in life - it is what you make of it.  You can absolutely Crossfit without going overboard on range of motion or the weight you're lifting.


All you really need is something like this...
www.highintensitybodybuilding.org
If you can fit in your basement, you don't have to deal with the knobs at the local gym or be a part of the crossfit gang.
 
2014-07-08 10:25:26 AM  
These gluten intolerance people are glutenist! Where is the outrage? Why hasn't someone been chastised and lost their jobs over their intolerance of gluten?

This should make the glutenists' blood boil.
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2014-07-08 10:25:39 AM  

KatjaMouse: Loreweaver: If the lunch meat you are buying says "Gluten Free" on the package, they are either using it as a marketing gimmick to increase the price (since meat does not have gluten) , or they are adding grain-based fillers to the meat.

A lot of deli meats have added cornstarch to them. Usually as part of the glaze so yeah, even buying lunch meat can be a bit of a gamble for people with allergies.


Except corn is gluten free... the problem I believe in some meat products is that it is mixed with flour as a binding agent. So for example, you have a chicken breast, but you can't easily slice a chicken breast into a paper thin, perfectly round piece of meat. So they process the shiat out of if, make it into small particles, ad some flour and some other shiat to turn it into a paste that they can put into a form before they cook it, then after they can stick it in a machine to slice and package.
It's probably not that hard for them to find a corn substitute as a binder.
 
2014-07-08 10:27:12 AM  

Lord Farkwad: These gluten intolerance people are glutenist! Where is the outrage? Why hasn't someone been chastised and lost their jobs over their intolerance of gluten?

This should make the glutenists' blood boil.
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Those touch me in my medieval places...
 
2014-07-08 10:30:19 AM  

CeroX: It's probably not that hard for them to find a corn substitute as a binder.


Don't get your hopes up, I am sure they'll replace the flour with a petroleum based binder.
 
2014-07-08 10:30:29 AM  

Vangor: While being lacking in gluten, being gluten-free tends to mean lack of cross-contamination for folks with celiac disease, which i snot true of all distilled alcohols; although reading back over the previous comment I apparently misread his wife as having the disease rather than an allergy, which makes finding a vodka she is able to tolerate all the more easy due to exactly what you just said.


My brother has celaic, he is able to drink bourbon.  If done right distilling should remove all the gluten (although some booze adds in mash or something after distillation so you have to be careful) - but I probably would not get some plastic bottle hooch if I were celiac.

God, if I had a disease that didnt let me drink beer and limited my booze to shiatty Vodka, I might just end it.
 
2014-07-08 10:31:46 AM  

lilplatinum: I've been told by various glutards that my type 1 diabetes would clear right up if I cut out gluten because it causes a low level reaction that apparently makes my immune system weak and causes an autoimmune disease, and if I stop eating gluten that reaction will go away and the autoimmune disease will just fix itself right up.

/this is what these retards actually believe.


Sounds like you've been dealing with people that are gluten-free by choice, not by necessity. My wife was diagnosed with Celiac a few years ago. If you talk to her and tell her that you're going to try going gluten-free* to lose weight she'll flat out tell you you're an absolute idiot.

*gluten-free in the sense of substituting normal foods for gluten-free substitutes such as normal cupcakes for gluten-free, etc., not going paleo or whatever
 
2014-07-08 10:34:09 AM  

CeroX: So they process the shiat out of if, make it into small particles, ad some flour and some other shiat to turn it into a paste that they can put into a form before they cook it, then after they can stick it in a machine to slice and package.


At which point, it is no longer chicken, but a bread pudding with poultry product in it.

Bleah.
 
2014-07-08 10:34:19 AM  

Gary-L: CruJones: No matter what your nutritionist told you, there is no test for gluten "sensitivity"

There sure is, but please, continue sharing your vast medical knowledge and experience.


Hi. Biotech here. Please tell me how can I test for gluten sensitivity other than by trial and error/empirical research?

Thank you for your time!
 
2014-07-08 10:34:19 AM  

Fibro: I hope she gets back into it on the exercise and the diet side of things. I realize Crossfit can be expensive but it should be fairly easy to cut something else out of your lifestyle to accommodate a program that will make you look and feel so much better. Best of luck to her. :)


Thanks. Also her flour free chocolate cake was to die. As was her maple syrup and nut encrusted fish. She wasn't a better cook than the time she was really into that diet.
 
2014-07-08 10:34:52 AM  

006deluxe: Sounds like you've been dealing with people that are gluten-free by choice, not by necessity. My wife was diagnosed with Celiac a few years ago. If you talk to her and tell her that you're going to try going gluten-free* to lose weight she'll flat out tell you you're an absolute idiot.

*gluten-free in the sense of substituting normal foods for gluten-free substitutes such as normal cupcakes for gluten-free, etc., not going paleo or whatever


Yes, I am aware of Celiac disease, my brother has it - it's just very rare and the vast bulk of people who are glutards are jumping on the latest trend - especially here in Brooklyn (unless hipsters have about a 10000000% higher chance of being Celiac).
 
2014-07-08 10:35:40 AM  

sethen320: Iceman_Cometh: Onkel Buck: If Someone Ever Tells You They Have A Gluten Allergy, Show Them This

Yes, I often take medical advise from a waitress.

Its just as valid as making up a fake ailment.


Yes, my son puking eight times a day and the 'scope of his small intestine with the villi swollen and laying flat was totally fake.

The waitress goes on and on about an allergy, when Coeliac disease is an auto immune response, in other words an intolerance, not an allergy. Sure, there are a lot of idiots out there who seem to believe that a gluten free diet is some cure all, or will improve them in some way. I've also know a dumbass (not my son) who has been diagnosed with Coeliac's who will eat the filling out of a cheesecake and leave the crust. Dumbass gets sick every time.
As far as companies slapping the gluten free tag on their products, it's a mixed blessing. In some cases it's outright stupidity. Look at the back of the bottle. That's right, you can feel safe that your toilet bowl cleaner is Gluten Free. http://shop.seventhgeneration.com/toilet-bowl-cleaner.html

Anyone who has had a diagnosis for a while knows that a lot of items are naturally gluten free, it's when there is something like spices or "natural flavorings" listed on a package that it's nice to have some clarification. I've called up companies, granted it's been a few years, and asked about a product containing gluten and was once told, "No, it doesn't contain glue, why would it contain glue?" Not glue, gluten. "I don't understand". And that wasn't the person that just answered the phone, that was supposed to be their health expert.
 
2014-07-08 10:36:35 AM  
From my research, the 0.8% of the population has Celiac disease. For people with Hypothyroidism, it increases to around 4-6%. Also thyroid issues people tend to have a higher rate of sensitivity to gluten and other grains. If a person has Hashimoto's disease, then gluten needs to be eliminated from diet completely. The protein portion of gluten is nearly identical to the protein found in the thyroid, which if the body determines that gluten is a foreign object that needs to be attack, then the immune system will attack the thyroid.
I went gluten free to determine if my health would benefit. I have seen an increase in energy levels and diarrhea has significantly decreased. When at restaurants I order food that will not contain gluten, yes may be cross contamination, but that will not kill me. I do not advertise or demand gluten free menu items from the waitress.
Next doctor's visit I will get tested.

/where is my coffee?
//Miss the beer!!
 
2014-07-08 10:36:50 AM  

Czechzican: Yea, my friend is healthy. She is just overweight. She posts other crap too, like things from some juicing website. Just about everything is "This superfood does this! You'll have great results if you stop eating everything and only eat this superfood for a week!" That sort of bollocks.

Moreso, she's in the lower end of middle class, and half the foods she is trying on her family are made with ingredients that cost an arm and a leg. One of her cupcake recipes alone would have cost almost $60 to make. She fusses about money, but won't think twice about dropping $30 on a bottle of oil or $15 on a bag of almond flour, etc.


Are your friend is just a friend, and not THIS asshole?

www.optimumhealthvitamins.com
 
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