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2014-07-08 08:35:23 AM  
My cousin is going gluten-free because sometimes her iris constricts uncontrollably.

Suggestions that she see an ophthalmologist are met with "Yeah, I'm working on that."
 
2014-07-08 08:35:53 AM  
It's all about attention most of the time. Same thing happened during the carb craze, the no carb craze, the corn syrup craze, the no corn syrup phase...blah blah blah.
Some people love to claim they're just a little different. Not different enough to be WEIRD, mind you, but just different enough with their food that they can treat it like some sort of exclusive club and constantly demonstrate their attention whoring every time a snack or meal choice is presented.
 
2014-07-08 08:36:06 AM  

vudukungfu: HeartBurnKid: Or did you really think that "roast beef" you were buying was 100% beef?

I watched him slice it off the top round.
Cooked on premises.

I'm a bit picky.
that's why I'm single


Ladies like the guys aren't picky about what they eat.
 
2014-07-08 08:38:22 AM  
I don't eat much bread or grains these days, but I still eat gluten.  I get it in the form of beer, like god intended.
 
2014-07-08 08:38:48 AM  

vudukungfu: HeartBurnKid: Or did you really think that "roast beef" you were buying was 100% beef?

I watched him slice it off the top round.
Cooked on premises.

I'm a bit picky.
that's why I'm single


So where was the "gluten free" label?  Was it on the butcher's smock?
 
2014-07-08 08:39:35 AM  
Gluten-free diet (excluding those with Celiacs and intolerance) is as anti-science as anti-vaxxers and homeopathy.

There is nothing wrong with gluten. It's just a shiatty quality (amino-acid score wise) protein found in wheat.
 
2014-07-08 08:40:19 AM  

dready zim: Slives: dready zim: ...
Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.
...

I hope that is you being sarcastic and don't actually believe that potatoes have gluten...

is is me being sarcastic but it is also what she actually said...


I wonder if there was some sort of hilarious misunderstanding because you can't eat french fries (due to contamination with breaded fried things) in most restaurants. She doesn't sound the brightest to try vegan and gluten free (my celiac vegetarian friends eventually gave up the vegetarian part because they liked to be able to eat every once in a while), so I could see that happening.
 
2014-07-08 08:40:28 AM  

GoldSpider: Things Farkers tend to dislike:

1.  Hypochondriac fad-hopping attention-seekers.
2.  Companies that exploit #1.


3. Things that do not fit into thier world view
 
2014-07-08 08:41:10 AM  

TheGogmagog: What the hell is wrong with people. One person said low-carb and you went off on a rant about Atkins/ zero carb diets?


Welcome to FARK...

Turns out I also am `Apocolypse now` if I answer 45 questions but only `platoon` if I answer 9...
 
2014-07-08 08:41:22 AM  

Enormous-Schwanstucker: I'm hoping that one day I can come up with a nice way to ask my customers to tell me, in as few words as possible, what gluten is, what it does and how you know you're allergic to it.


Gluten is a protein found in grain.  I can't answer the other questions.
 
2014-07-08 08:43:55 AM  
Celiac Disease is a serious issue, It is an auto Immune DISEASE,  Not an allergy or intolerance. Right now now it is the go to "ailment" to make fun of.  A few jokes here and there are funny, but when celebrities who have no idea what they are talking about get on TV and say that it is not real, Rachel Ray saying we are picky eaters and then including a product with wheat in a recipe for a gluten free meal,  or even that idiot Dr Oz saying it is a fad, they are doing a real disservice to the people who Suffer from a very real and serious condition.

Celiac Disease sucks and I have no idea why anyone would want to fake an intolerance, allergy, etc to it. I do not expect restaurants to cater to me. I know a few places I can eat out at, if my friends choose to eat at other places, I just meet up with them afterwards. I always pack my own food for parties and even catered events. It can be a lot of work and a real Pain, but it is better than being sick for 3 weeks from cross contamination.
 
2014-07-08 08:44:02 AM  
I have developed a fondness for gluten-free rum.
 
2014-07-08 08:44:15 AM  

Typhoid: dready zim: Slives: dready zim: ...
Did you know potatoes had gluten? I didn`t. She can`t eat those even because she said they had gluten.
...

I hope that is you being sarcastic and don't actually believe that potatoes have gluten...

it is me being sarcastic but it is also what she actually said...

I wonder if there was some sort of hilarious misunderstanding because you can't eat french fries (due to contamination with breaded fried things) in most restaurants. She doesn't sound the brightest to try vegan and gluten free (my celiac vegetarian friends eventually gave up the vegetarian part because they liked to be able to eat every once in a while), so I could see that happening.


Nope, it was in our kitchen looking at raw potatoes that she could have had cooked any way she liked. We were suggesting baked then she could put whatever she liked on them.

When she said about potatoes having gluten we thought "fark this, she`s impossible, we`ll take her to a place where her food fascism will only affect someone getting paid to deal with it"
 
2014-07-08 08:45:08 AM  

thisdaydreamer: Ironically, two of my truly celiac friends were diagnosed after losing a dangerous amount of weight. They are both very happy to have gained weight (and therefore not stuck in a program with anorexics).



I've known one person who really and truly had Celiacs. The guy was skinny as hell, just skin hanging off his skeleton.  He looked sick and fragile all the time.   He was physically weak, too.

Then he was diagnosed with Celiacs.  Immediately, he gained weight and his life improved dramatically overnight.   The difference in him before diagnosis is remarkably different from the him after diagnosis.
 
2014-07-08 08:46:26 AM  
My oldest son is disabled and needs to eat an IBS diet which among other things is gluten-free.  I'm thankful for the trend/fad because it means it's easier to shop for him.

Some gluten-free foods are pretty awful.
 
2014-07-08 08:46:31 AM  

rikkards: DjangoStonereaver: Nuclear Monk: Fact: labeling something 'gluten free' removes 95% of any potential deliciousness.

You've never had my mother in law's flourless chocolate cake.

It is so good that I have to actively curb myself from eating an entire cake in one sitting because A> that
would make me feel like the fat pig I am and I don't like that feeling and B> deprive my legitimately
diagnosed Celiac niece from one of life's truly great pleasures.

Buddy makes a vegan chocolate cake that is to die for. Wifey is allergic to wheat (thank god not celiac) and eggs the one benefit for the gluten-free fad is that it makes it easier to find alternatives. hard part is finding things that don't use eggs as well.


Indeed; in my nieces' brief life the labelling of food has come leaps and bounds forward, which is a boon
to people with legit allergies and food sensitivities.

Still, though, the labelling only goes so far:  for example, anything with 'carmel coloring' or 'natural flavors'
generally are gluten (coming from wheat products), as is 'malto-dextrin', which is generally wheat sugar.
I have seen things that had 'GLUTEN FREE!' on the label with these as ingredients.

However, as my niece used to point out obsessively when she was a young child, Tootsie Rolls are
gluten free.
 
2014-07-08 08:46:36 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: 90% of the "gluten free" crowd actually have no idea what gluten really is.
Just ask them.


It's got electrolytes?
 
hej [TotalFark]
2014-07-08 08:46:43 AM  

thisdaydreamer: I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks.


I really want to know how other people choosing  not to eat something is a problem for you.
 
2014-07-08 08:48:42 AM  

hej: thisdaydreamer: I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks.

I really want to know how other people choosing  not to eat something is a problem for you.


Because he is a fat farker
 
2014-07-08 08:49:00 AM  

rev. dave: FTFA, "In the '50s, everyone had ulcers," he says. "Then, it was back problems. Now, it's gluten."

Well people still have stomach problems now known as GERD, and back problems never went away, just fewer surgeries and fewer bad backs from less manual labor.   Bad examples.
A few people don't eat gluten, most are trying to find out if they have food allergies or intolerance.
I just say low-carb since that is generally accepted as a way to stop being fat.


I had an ulcer for most of the 90s, it wasn't fun.  They messed with my diet, no beer, no spicy stuff, etc.  It sucked, and nothing particularly helped.  I eventually got a younger doctor, who said "Ulcer? That's easy, have some antibiotics."  I've been ulcer free since.

I still have some kind of food allergy that results in a rash, I have no clue what it is, I'll probably never figure it out.  I take one allergy pill a day, and eat what I want.  The wonders of modern medicine.

Low-carb can be a sucker advertising to get you to buy their sugary high calorie product.  Don't rely only on the low carb label if you're trying to lose weight.
 
2014-07-08 08:49:40 AM  

Smoking GNU: Gaylord Fister: fark these people. I hope they die. I hope there's some kind of famine, and the only thing to eat is a bag of wheat that you get from the government like once per year. (whiny voice) "Uh, excuse me, do you have something gluten free?" Yeah, dirt. Eat farking dirt, you gluten freetard.

I'm farking sick that 99.9% of the people have to cater to the whims of retarded farking minorities. You're allergic to peanuts? I don't give a shiat. It's your own farking business. Grow and cook all your own food then.

You do know that the people with the actual legitimate problem that goes with needing gluten free food will quite probably die if they ingest too much gluten, right?


So you're saying that if we stop making gluten free foods the problem will take care of itself?
 
2014-07-08 08:49:52 AM  

starjolt: Celiac Disease is a serious issue, It is an auto Immune DISEASE,  Not an allergy or intolerance. Right now now it is the go to "ailment" to make fun of.  A few jokes here and there are funny, but when celebrities who have no idea what they are talking about get on TV and say that it is not real, Rachel Ray saying we are picky eaters and then including a product with wheat in a recipe for a gluten free meal,  or even that idiot Dr Oz saying it is a fad, they are doing a real disservice to the people who Suffer from a very real and serious condition.

Celiac Disease sucks and I have no idea why anyone would want to fake an intolerance, allergy, etc to it. I do not expect restaurants to cater to me. I know a few places I can eat out at, if my friends choose to eat at other places, I just meet up with them afterwards. I always pack my own food for parties and even catered events. It can be a lot of work and a real Pain, but it is better than being sick for 3 weeks from cross contamination.


The problem is that you never hear from the people who actually have Celiac Disease, it's just the stupid attention-whore glommers on this fad is what diminishes the impact of this disease.  When I was a kid I had a friend who had this and neither she nor her parents ever demanded special attention for her, they just got food she could eat.  Problem solved.
 
2014-07-08 08:52:03 AM  

Czechzican: Yea, my friend is healthy. She is just overweight. She posts other crap too, like things from some juicing website. Just about everything is "This superfood does this! You'll have great results if you stop eating everything and only eat this superfood for a week!" That sort of bollocks.

Moreso, she's in the lower end of middle class, and half the foods she is trying on her family are made with ingredients that cost an arm and a leg. One of her cupcake recipes alone would have cost almost $60 to make. She fusses about money, but won't think twice about dropping $30 on a bottle of oil or $15 on a bag of almond flour, etc.


Here's an idea, if you're fat and want to lose weight DON'T FRAKING MAKE CUPCAKES

Here's what 200 calories looks like:
papagaiobrasilia.files.wordpress.com

Now you can starve yourself (and advertise that you're a moron that believes in checkout print rubbish), or you can make lots of interesting dishes that you can actually eat quite a lot of and feel full, all the while losing weight.

If you're starving, you're doing it terribly wrong.

Start off by making a egg white wrap for breakfast.

nutritionsuccess.org

These things are 200+/- calories (with low fat cheese) and will keep you full for a good 4 hours.  I like mine with peppers, onions, feta and hot sauce; but you can easily add whatever veggies you like.  If you dice and freeze your prep stuff on the weekend, it'll only take 10-15 min to throw together and cook as well.

Or you could have a bowl of soggy, air infused candy and be hungry by the time you get to work.
 
2014-07-08 08:52:32 AM  

ebenbane: I actually hate gluten free fad dieters. They make me seethe with a deep rage.


Me too! Whenever I hear someone say they don't eat glutens, I puff out my chest, walk up to them and proudly proclaim that I am going to kill & eat TWO glutens to make up for the glutens that they don't eat!

Pussys.
 
2014-07-08 08:52:44 AM  

vudukungfu: I was just picking up lunch-meat for my sammiches in the store.
Ham, Turkey, roast beef, all labeled Gluten free.
Really?

What's next?
Fructose intolerance?

Nation of pussies.
If you have a dietary issue that is real and proven, that's one thing, but when the nation turns on whims, fads, and made up BS like a religion, then you see crap like labeling apples "Gluten Free" as marketing gimmicks.

And that's why we can't have nice things.


Sorry, fructose intolerance is actually a thing.

An extremely rare thing, but a thing.

http://www.gastro.org/patient-center/ diet-medications/food-allergies- f ructose-intolerance-and-lactose-intole rance
 
hej [TotalFark]
2014-07-08 08:53:41 AM  

nunyadang: hej: thisdaydreamer: I really want to smack a lot of the gluten-free-because-it's-like-healthy folks.

I really want to know how other people choosing  not to eat something is a problem for you.

Because he is a fat farker


Then I would think he'd be happy that there's more food left for him.
 
2014-07-08 08:53:52 AM  
That's the problem with fad diets.
It's just like what happened with Atkins and carbs.
There is a valid reason for a segment of the population to cut down on their intake of carbs/gluten. But then those who co-opt the diet make asses of themselves about it, which builds a backlash that affects not just the morons, but those who genuinely have the need to cut back/cut out as well.
 
2014-07-08 08:54:17 AM  
What bothers me are the people who claim an allergy or an intolerance to a substance, but it's entirely self diagnosed. Guess what? If you haven't been tested, you probably don't know what you're allergic to.

Also, those allergies can change over your life. And typically, to develop a resistance, you need to slowly introduce the said allergen over time, via exposure or increasing concentrations of subcutaneous injections. After a period of time, your immune system learns to live with it. Shunning the substance will likely make the allergy even worse (such as seasonal plant allergies).

/been tested several times
//spent years getting injections
 
2014-07-08 08:56:46 AM  

CruJones: No matter what your nutritionist told you, there is no test for gluten "sensitivity"


There sure is, but please, continue sharing your vast medical knowledge and experience.
 
2014-07-08 08:57:53 AM  
TyrantII:

Start off by making a egg white wrap for breakfast.

[nutritionsuccess.org image 300x225]

These things are 200+/- calories (with low fat cheese) and will keep you full for a good 4 hours.  I like mine with peppers, onions, feta and hot sauce; but you can easily add whatever veggies you like.  If you dice and freeze your prep stuff on the weekend, it'll only take 10-15 min to throw together and cook as well.

I hope you've got a recipe to share with the whole class?
 
2014-07-08 08:58:24 AM  

dready zim: She used to get bad circulation, headaches, tiredness (basically all the symptoms you get if you are starving yourself almost to the point of death) although many of these problems have gone away since she started eating properly for the baby...



You mean, ANEMIA?
 
2014-07-08 08:58:33 AM  

Muta: I think people like these special diets because it makes them stand out.  Everyone has to accommodate their needs so they get the trump card when selecting a restaurant.  It gives them power over the group.


Mediocre nobodies require constant drama in their lives in order to feel special.
 
2014-07-08 08:59:18 AM  
Meanwhile, people who are lactose intolerant are getting a free pass. A free, gassy, bloated pass.

/so that's what was making me fart...
//Damn... cheese is tasty.
 
2014-07-08 09:01:02 AM  
my weener is gluten free, however my balls are not. so fear not folks, I've got something for everyone.  bon appetit.  unless of course you have nut allergies :\
 
2014-07-08 09:01:38 AM  
'"He thinks that the gluten-free thing is just a fad, promoted by food companies "as a way of making money."'

I know it is. Just as was the low-fat, sugar-free, no trans fats, etc., etc., etc. Ditto on "peanut allergy" Peanuts and peanut oils used to be common ingredients, but they had to be vilified so that they could be replaced with soy beans and corn.

Folks, if someone suddenly starts telling you that a natural substance that man has eaten for tens-of-thousands of years will make you sick, they are lying to you and trying to sell you something you do not need.
 
2014-07-08 09:02:28 AM  
i61.tinypic.com
 
2014-07-08 09:03:47 AM  
Gluttons For Gluten!

Untie!
 
2014-07-08 09:06:43 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I had an ulcer for most of the 90s, it wasn't fun.  They messed with my diet, no beer, no spicy stuff, etc.  It sucked, and nothing particularly helped.  I eventually got a younger doctor, who said "Ulcer? That's easy, have some antibiotics."  I've been ulcer free since.


Helicobacter pylori.  It is well known that H. Pylori can cause ulcers, but researchers are finding that there is an increase in asthma where H. Pylori has been eradicated.  There is also evidence that its eradication is related to increased obesity.  From the linked article:

There is equally convincing evidence that destroying H. pylori could alter metabolism in ways that increase the risk of obesity. Several research groups, including Blaser's, have found a strong relationship in humans between the bacterium and two stomach hormones, ghrelin and leptin, both of which play central roles in regulating our appetites. Like many hormones, they work as a team, telling us to eat when we are hungry and stop when we are full. The more ghrelin you have in your bloodstream, the more likely you are to overeat. Leptin functions in the opposite way, suppressing the appetite and increasing energy levels. For people whose stomachs are infected with H. pylori, ghrelin became far less detectable after a meal. For the others, levels of the hormone remained high, and the effects are evident. "A generation of kids are growing up without H. pylori regulating their levels of ghrelin,'' Blaser told me. These results suggest that the message to stop eating never makes it to the brain. If those hormones aren't controlled, it becomes far more difficult to control one's weight.
 
2014-07-08 09:08:16 AM  

MindStalker: FTA: Jessie Dankos, a 24-year-old grant-management consultant who lives in Arlington, Va., felt bad for a woman she recently met at a wedding who has such a severe reaction to gluten that she has to check the labels on her shampoo to make sure that it doesn't contain traces of the substance.

What? That's not Celiac's which is an inability to digest gluton, either that's a severe allergic reaction to gluton, or this woman is crazy, I'm voting the later.


Hmmm  Who said she has Celiac?
 
2014-07-08 09:08:48 AM  

frankmanhog: Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.


I don't get your post.  Are you jealous that this guy has the physical prowess to Crossfit and the discipline to eat a consistently clean diet, and you do not? Where's the hate coming from?

I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet.  Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.
 
2014-07-08 09:09:52 AM  

FizixJunkee: dready zim: She used to get bad circulation, headaches, tiredness (basically all the symptoms you get if you are starving yourself almost to the point of death) although many of these problems have gone away since she started eating properly for the baby...


You mean, ANEMIA?


She probably had that although it seems eating right sorted out all her food and health problems...

Now, like everyone I know that is a food fascist, she mostly bakes cakes. They all find a way to bake cakes that fits their food insanity, have you noticed?
 
2014-07-08 09:10:04 AM  

Cheese eating surrender monkey: TyrantII:

Start off by making a egg white wrap for breakfast.


These things are 200+/- calories (with low fat cheese) and will keep you full for a good 4 hours.  I like mine with peppers, onions, feta and hot sauce; but you can easily add whatever veggies you like.  If you dice and freeze your prep stuff on the weekend, it'll only take 10-15 min to throw together and cook as well.

I hope you've got a recipe to share with the whole class?


Two egg whites in a small frying pan for 5-6 min and whatever you want.  The one above is spinach, peppers, and feta.  Use a small dab of olive oil if the pan is not non-stick.  You can get as creative with the veggies as you want, and when you find a few good combos, just prep and freeze on the weekends.  Diced onions & peppers is the most basic.

As for gluten intolerance, it's total bullshiat.  Most people leaking out of their ass constantly are doing so because they're eating way too much and that excess food needs to go somewhere.  Gluten Free "helping" is only a product of changing their diet and eating a lot less due having to find gluten free options.

Celiac is real, but there's very few people with it.
 
2014-07-08 09:10:41 AM  

Gary-L: CruJones: No matter what your nutritionist told you, there is no test for gluten "sensitivity"

There sure is, but please, continue sharing your vast medical knowledge and experience.


Or not: http://www.celiaccentral.org/non-celi ac-gluten-sensitivity/testing-an d -diagnosis/
 
2014-07-08 09:10:47 AM  
In the past few months I've changed my diet considerably.  I stopped taking a sandwich for lunch and instead have some sort of a prepared lean meat and a vegetable or a salad of some kind.  I've cut down on alcohol to almost nothing (I was a 2 beer a night kinda guy).  Instead of rice or fries with dinner I'll opt for cole slaw or a different vegetable.  If I want a snack I don't got for tortilla chips which is something I used to do alot.

Someone asked me if I was "doing the gluten-free thing" the other day.

To some degree I guess I am.

But mainly I'm trying to maximize the results from the time I spending at the gym every week.  Not surprisingly I found that cutting out the carbs did wonders for me.

If you're doing something for the health reasons don't feel you need to give it a name.  You're just doing it for health reasons.  Hell, you don't even need to discuss or justify it.  If you end up dining somewhere then you deal with it.  Don't ask the world to change because you're different.  They don't have anything invested in you.
 
2014-07-08 09:11:26 AM  
"Within minutes of eating it, my stomach felt really bad and got bloated and crashed my energy. It made me feel just really bad," says Cheng, 33.

No, you did not have this reaction to gluten this fast. Were you to have an actual allergy, there would be other problems than an energy crash, and were you to be Celiac's then there would a much greater delay. What you experienced was overeating. What you probably did due to the 'Paleo' diet is maintained portion size of the foods you've grown accustomed to and added in something else.

rikkards: What was surprising was finding a vodka that isn't grain-based nowadays. We found a couple but it was amazing to see how many are.


Either Chopin, which is potato based and therefore naturally gluten-free, or Tito's, which due to distillation procedures is gluten-free, are both excellent options if you haven't found a good enough vodka yet. The latter is less expensive and becoming increasingly more common.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2014-07-08 09:12:55 AM  

MrSteve007: What bothers me are the people who claim an allergy or an intolerance to a substance, but it's entirely self diagnosed. Guess what? If you haven't been tested, you probably don't know what you're allergic to.


Any time I consume anything that's got shellfish in it (or has been contaminated by it), my lips blister, my throat swells and becomes itchy, I get a headache, and I can even feel the inside of my ear canals constricting a bit.  I don't need a test to tell me I'm allergic and should not be eating it.
 
2014-07-08 09:13:04 AM  

czetie: Personally, I'm "invested" when a friend no longer wants to go to the best pizza restaurant in town because they don't have good gluten-free pizza, or when I can't have that person over for dinner with other friends because they won't eat what I cook, or when every meal out becomes an interrogation of the waitron -- and that self-diagnosed friend doesn't actually have anything wrong with them.


You just described vegetarians. There are worse things than the gluten wackos out there.
 
2014-07-08 09:13:20 AM  
It's not called Celiac, or Celiacs, or Celiac's. Coeliac is apparently an old Greek word that translates to "abdominal". Sufferers are not "Celiac"; they have Coeliac Disease.
 
2014-07-08 09:13:31 AM  

Fibro: frankmanhog: Hanson Cheng doesn't pay much attention to the gluten-free haters. Feeling out of shape a couple of years ago, he joined a CrossFit training gym and went on the Paleo Diet, which consists of mostly meat and vegetables.

My eyes just rolled out of my skull.  Nice of them to close the article with an example of one of the problem idiots.

I don't get your post.  Are you jealous that this guy has the physical prowess to Crossfit and the discipline to eat a consistently clean diet, and you do not? Where's the hate coming from?

I Crossfit regularly and eat 85-90% paleo and life is good; definitely way better than before.

On the topic of gluten-free, I eat mostly gluten-free as it is just by nature of the paleo diet.  Just because you can put something in your body, digest, and expel it doesn't mean you should.


Same way here.  Diet change (Paleo) and regular exercise (Crossfit) and I'm down nearly 40lbs since November along with huge strength gains.
 
2014-07-08 09:14:30 AM  
TyrantII:

... egg white ...

(with low fat cheese)


Stopped reading right there.

/real food or gtfo
 
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