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(Telegraph)   People who grew up in the 1980s sending prices of authentic music memorabilia from that era soaring at auction. "The Cure's fan base is now of an age where they have the disposable income to buy such pieces"   (telegraph.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-07-08 12:07:43 AM  
I wasn't aware that the Cure ever had a fan base to begin with.
 
2014-07-08 12:21:42 AM  
Never did like The Cure. But since I still don't have any disposable income, I'm sure they'll all get along fine should anyone ever tell them how I feel.
 
2014-07-08 12:38:30 AM  
Why is this sad?
 
2014-07-08 12:50:04 AM  
Pieces of what?
 
2014-07-08 05:21:26 AM  
For some reason, I found this list FTFA quite amusing...

Genres worth collecting:
1. Progressive rock
2. Reggae
3. Northern Soul
4. Jazz
5. Top classical soloists
And those not...
1. Pop music
2. Novelty songs
3. 'Unfashionable' singers
4. 'Popular' classical artists (such as James Last)
5. Compilations
 
2014-07-08 05:35:28 AM  
That guitar Robert Smith donated was in a charity auction.
They also did a similar thing after the teenage cancer trust shows
 
2014-07-08 05:42:49 AM  
80's nostalgia is so last decade.
 
2014-07-08 05:52:21 AM  

CarnySaur: 2. Novelty songs


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-08 06:04:23 AM  

rwhamann: Why is this sad?


Because it's about the Cure and everything they do is sad.
 
2014-07-08 06:12:35 AM  
Oddly enough, The Cure's fan base having disposable income happened about the same time that mascara futures plummeted.

COINCIDENCE?

/not bitter
/this friggin' mascara mine is just a worthless hole in the ground now
 
2014-07-08 06:29:26 AM  

DrPainMD: I wasn't aware that the Cure ever had a fan base to begin with.


They tend to off themselves at the same percentage pace that unpopular 14 year old girls discover them.. It's a very natural harmonic.
 
2014-07-08 06:31:11 AM  

DrPainMD: I wasn't aware that the Cure ever had a fan base to begin with.


A rabid fan base.
 
2014-07-08 06:34:49 AM  
Wonder how much I could get for my Oingo Boingo swatch?...
 
2014-07-08 06:40:16 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: DrPainMD: I wasn't aware that the Cure ever had a fan base to begin with.

A rabid fan base.


Rabies would explain a lot.
 
2014-07-08 06:49:06 AM  
I have The Clash album and the EP, got them together on Ebay a few years back for $35.

/The money is in extreme Metal vinyl. The metalheads will pay a LOT of money for a record if they want it.
 
2014-07-08 06:50:14 AM  
They sold out arena tours.

Apparently, sad (like sex) sells.
 
2014-07-08 06:56:29 AM  
Disintegration is the best album ever!
 
2014-07-08 06:56:46 AM  
Does that mean it's time to sell my vinyl on ebay?
 
2014-07-08 08:16:46 AM  

Ooba Tooba: Wonder how much I could get for my Oingo Boingo swatch?...


I'd buy that for a reasonable price.  Loves me some Oingo Boingo.
 
2014-07-08 08:20:24 AM  
Makes me wish I hadn't sold my record collection in the late 80s.

Particularly those albums EPs and 45s by limited-pressings you could buy directly from the bands that came through town.  I weep when I see how much some of those fetch now in the interwebby.
 
2014-07-08 08:32:21 AM  

DrPainMD: I wasn't aware that the Cure ever had a fan base to begin with.


We may not be as vocal as Bieber fans or One Direction fans or whatever it is you are into these days, but we're still around.
 
2014-07-08 08:37:53 AM  
That 'article' was an ad for a record store - people of that age are over collecting crap and are now divesting; which is why it's in the bargain bin now.
 
2014-07-08 08:44:47 AM  
I'm downloading a torrent of the Japanese Pressing's of the first 5 Beatles albums....

I'm asking for £500.00 ono when it's done. PM me if interested. Will trade.
 
2014-07-08 09:13:38 AM  

GungFu: I'm downloading a torrent of the Japanese Pressing's of the first 5 Beatles albums....

I'm asking for £500.00 ono when it's done. PM me if interested. Will trade.


Never thought of that.  Yoko Or Nearest Offer.
 
2014-07-08 09:20:31 AM  
The only thing from the 1980's that I'd spend my hard-earned cash on is a night in the sack with Jane Wiedlin.
 
2014-07-08 09:25:05 AM  
Novelty song stuff is going down? You mean I won't be able to retire after selling my leisure suit jacket Weird Al signed and gave me a strange look when I asked him to sign it? Noooooo!

How about my ticket from a Foo Fighters concert at a small club in Kentucky back in the 90's? A smashing Pumpkins t-shirt with a bunch of dates that got canceled because the keyboard player OD'd? Def Lep guitar pics?
 
2014-07-08 09:25:58 AM  
I've got better things to spend my money on than other people's nostalgia.
 
2014-07-08 09:33:03 AM  
Isn't this how collectables work? Sell something about 30 years after it was popular, when its fans have money.
 
2014-07-08 09:35:21 AM  
"The Cure's fan base is now of an age where they have the disposable income to buy such pieces"

inaccurate.

truth is, "fan base is now at an age where they have disposable income that they can be swindled out of".

because once internet, no music is "rare".  the important part of any record or cassette or CD is the DATA encoded on it.  the actual medium it was produced on is irrelevant.  It's one of those things that honestly is just not as "collectible" as some would have you believe.

I get the "rush" of having an object that there are not many of.  I do.  However, music reproduction media?  Once that piece of music has been encoded as a FLAC file and pushed to the 'net, you have a container, possibly with a purty picture on it, that is seriously not worth the paper and plastic that it took to make.

Comic book collecting faces the same problem.  There are a few key issues that will always be valuable, but the majority of them are just not that valuable any longer.

Digitization is\has removed the "scarcity" factor from many collectibles that were honestly just "data" to begin with.
 
2014-07-08 09:42:32 AM  

frepnog: because once internet, no music is "rare". the important part of any record or cassette or CD is the DATA encoded on it. the actual medium it was produced on is irrelevant. It's one of those things that honestly is just not as "collectible" as some would have you believe.


I'd say there's still value in the lyric book and dust jacket especially if it was a limited run, and of course if you got it signed.
 
2014-07-08 09:44:35 AM  
"so artists such as Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin and other more obscure bands are a good investment," he said"

Phew, for a moment I was beginning to think Jimi Hendrix and Led Zeppelin were no longer going to be my own little secret! It's not like they're famous to inspire musicians and sell millions right?
 
2014-07-08 09:50:22 AM  
Glad to see there is some real money to be made off music collectibles. Speaking of The Cure, would any of you serious collectors like to buy Robert Smith's hair?
i.ebayimg.com
 
2014-07-08 09:54:48 AM  

meteorite: Novelty song stuff is going down? You mean I won't be able to retire after selling my leisure suit jacket Weird Al signed and gave me a strange look when I asked him to sign it? Noooooo!

How about my ticket from a Foo Fighters concert at a small club in Kentucky back in the 90's? A smashing Pumpkins t-shirt with a bunch of dates that got canceled because the keyboard player OD'd? Def Lep guitar pics?


Hell I just the drummers arm on craiglist
 
2014-07-08 09:55:27 AM  

12349876: I'd say there's still value in the lyric book and dust jacket especially if it was a limited run, and of course if you got it signed.


I suppose that depends on how much you value a physical object, because in those cases a hi-res scan is just as good if you just want to SEE it, and I have always been of the mind that signatures are only really meaningful if YOU met the person and got the signature.  Because the meeting was the important part, and the signature was proof that you met that person.  Unless that person is long dead, of course.  Just my opinion of course.  For instance - I met Lisa Loeb once, and she was kind enough to sign two cd booklets for me.  They are beyond valuable to ME, because it is a record of a meeting with a person I greatly admire.  Beyond that, I don't know why her signature on my cd booklets would be worth a damn thing to anyone else.  Well, until she dies and then it is just "some shiat Lisa touched" I suppose.

Memorabilia (Hendrix's guitar, Robert Smith's used tampon, ect) should hold value.

Albums....  or any collectible that is really nothing more than data imprinted on a reproduction medium, really should not.

/altho I have no idea why "fine art prints" are worth any damn thing at all.  An original painting by a famous artist? Sure, valuable.  Why the hell is a "signed print" worth anything?
 
2014-07-08 09:56:47 AM  

frepnog: "The Cure's fan base is now of an age where they have the disposable income to buy such pieces"

inaccurate.

truth is, "fan base is now at an age where they have disposable income that they can be swindled out of".

because once internet, no music is "rare".  the important part of any record or cassette or CD is the DATA encoded on it.  the actual medium it was produced on is irrelevant.  It's one of those things that honestly is just not as "collectible" as some would have you believe.

I get the "rush" of having an object that there are not many of.  I do.  However, music reproduction media?  Once that piece of music has been encoded as a FLAC file and pushed to the 'net, you have a container, possibly with a purty picture on it, that is seriously not worth the paper and plastic that it took to make.

Comic book collecting faces the same problem.  There are a few key issues that will always be valuable, but the majority of them are just not that valuable any longer.

Digitization is\has removed the "scarcity" factor from many collectibles that were honestly just "data" to begin with.


Any collectible is only worth what people are willing to pay. There's no inherent value in ANY of it. The market for this stuff is driven by emotion, not logic.
 
2014-07-08 09:58:26 AM  

theflatline: Hell I just the drummers arm on craiglist


Accidentally the whole arm?
 
2014-07-08 10:02:06 AM  
Have you found the lost Hawiians?
 
2014-07-08 10:07:03 AM  
So, is a '70s vintage Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers LP with the zipper in the jacket worth anything?  Or a quadrophonic Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here?
 
2014-07-08 10:07:15 AM  
I was in Safeway this weekend and they were playing the Cure.  It was an Oh, I am Now Old moment.
 
2014-07-08 10:13:43 AM  

El Freak: Any collectible is only worth what people are willing to pay. There's no inherent value in ANY of it. The market for this stuff is driven by emotion, not logic.


true.  I watch Pawn Stars alot (hush, it's a cool show) and it is weird how some things that you'd think would be valuable really aren't, and how some things that were once quite valuable are now worth very little.
 
2014-07-08 10:20:49 AM  

steve_wmn: So, is a '70s vintage Rolling Stones Sticky Fingers LP with the zipper in the jacket worth anything?  Or a quadrophonic Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here?


Ive seen Sticky Fingers in mint condition for $150. But I guess the poor album it was stacked right next to, with the now mangled sleeve would be worth somewhat less.
The Floyd album would see you get about $70
 
2014-07-08 10:22:25 AM  

frepnog: 12349876: I'd say there's still value in the lyric book and dust jacket especially if it was a limited run, and of course if you got it signed.

I suppose that depends on how much you value a physical object, because in those cases a hi-res scan is just as good if you just want to SEE it, and I have always been of the mind that signatures are only really meaningful if YOU met the person and got the signature.  Because the meeting was the important part, and the signature was proof that you met that person.  Unless that person is long dead, of course.  Just my opinion of course.  For instance - I met Lisa Loeb once, and she was kind enough to sign two cd booklets for me.  They are beyond valuable to ME, because it is a record of a meeting with a person I greatly admire.  Beyond that, I don't know why her signature on my cd booklets would be worth a damn thing to anyone else.  Well, until she dies and then it is just "some shiat Lisa touched" I suppose.

Memorabilia (Hendrix's guitar, Robert Smith's used tampon, ect) should hold value.

Albums....  or any collectible that is really nothing more than data imprinted on a reproduction medium, really should not.

/altho I have no idea why "fine art prints" are worth any damn thing at all.  An original painting by a famous artist? Sure, valuable.  Why the hell is a "signed print" worth anything?


I agree with you on just about all of this post, but there are enough people that value physical objects and signatures to make them worth something even if you don't, especially if there's scarcity involved.
 
2014-07-08 10:30:59 AM  

otherginger: I was in Safeway this weekend and they were playing the Cure.  It was an Oh, I am Now Old moment.


I am one of the few who actually liked it better when grocery stores just played dull, inoffensive muzak. Buying groceries while being subjected to the "Hits Of The 80's" is just bothersome. You end up getting some wretched song stuck in your head for the rest of the day and it just drives you crazy.

"In A Big Country" in the peanut butter aisle = stabbyness....
 
2014-07-08 10:37:29 AM  
I would like to buy a fake Ric Ocasek Adam's Apple. Does it glue on or is it so heavy it requires straps?
 
2014-07-08 10:45:05 AM  

12349876: but there are enough people that value physical objects and signatures to make them worth something even if you don't, especially if there's scarcity involved.


I think that this will be something that fades with current\upcoming generations that are\getting used to downloading stuff.  I believe that sometime in the future, maybe even in as little as 50 years, there will be TONS of stuff that at one time was considered very valuable being simply discarded.
 
2014-07-08 10:46:41 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: I would like to buy a fake Ric Ocasek Adam's Apple. Does it glue on or is it so heavy it requires straps?


The really high-end model is an implant.  But it comes with a choice of a replica wife Paulina Porishkova (sp?) or replica beatnik girlfriend Pia Zadora (from "Hairspray")....
 
2014-07-08 10:47:29 AM  

MagSeven: rwhamann: Why is this sad?

Because it's about the Cure and everything they do is sad.


Love Cats? Friday I'm in Love?
 
2014-07-08 10:49:03 AM  

frepnog: 12349876: but there are enough people that value physical objects and signatures to make them worth something even if you don't, especially if there's scarcity involved.

I think that this will be something that fades with current\upcoming generations that are\getting used to downloading stuff.  I believe that sometime in the future, maybe even in as little as 50 years, there will be TONS of stuff that at one time was considered very valuable being simply discarded.


An Antiques Roadshow visited a toy museum absolutely stuffed with toys. And noone wanted any of them. Part of it was they were smallish and run of the mill. But more importantly, anyone who had ever played with them was long, long dead. We're talking late teens in the 20th century. Literally thousands of toys just sitting in a museum with no visitors and no way of dumping the inventory besides dumping it.
 
2014-07-08 10:59:15 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: frepnog: 12349876: but there are enough people that value physical objects and signatures to make them worth something even if you don't, especially if there's scarcity involved.

I think that this will be something that fades with current\upcoming generations that are\getting used to downloading stuff.  I believe that sometime in the future, maybe even in as little as 50 years, there will be TONS of stuff that at one time was considered very valuable being simply discarded.

An Antiques Roadshow visited a toy museum absolutely stuffed with toys. And noone wanted any of them. Part of it was they were smallish and run of the mill. But more importantly, anyone who had ever played with them was long, long dead. We're talking late teens in the 20th century. Literally thousands of toys just sitting in a museum with no visitors and no way of dumping the inventory besides dumping it.


I know a lot of people who deal in antiques and another thing that is losing it's audience rapidly is glassware and dishes. Go to the average antique mall and you'll see tons of the stuff sitting unsold because no one cares about and the dealers are asking too much for the pieces. Roseville pottery, which used to sell for hundreds of dollars per piece is very close to being worthless because no one cares about it anymore. When the current crop of 70+ers dies off, the stuff won't be worth the shelf space.

Items from the 50's and 60's are still somewhat popular but even those are dwindling somewhat because the sellers are asking way too much. I can't tell you how many times I've been wandering through an antique mall and see something that catches my eye and the price is about five times what I would ever consider paying for it. So, I just keep walking. I have to chuckle when I come back to the same mall some months later and that same booth is essentially unchanged because nothing sold because it's priced too high.
 
2014-07-08 11:09:42 AM  

barefoot in the head: MagSeven: rwhamann: Why is this sad?

Because it's about the Cure and everything they do is sad.

Love Cats? Friday I'm in Love?


Much of the Cure is sappy love songs.  Which is why depressed fat chicks loved it so much.
 
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