borg: If Whitewater was a conspiracy then why did 18 people go to prison over it including a Governor of Arkansas. Amazing everyone involved was dirty except The Clintons.
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Scaife was a big deal in my neck of the woods. He had his hands in a lot of non-profits, think tanks, and media in order to facilitate his agenda. It'll be interesting to hear the dirt that comes out over the next few months. (It'll also be interesting to see which ones collapse without his largess.)
beefoe: Ummm, it was Hillary that invented the term "vast right-wing conspiracy". She claimed that it was a "vast right wing conspiracy" that was making stories about her husband banging pretty much anything with a heartbeat, instead of the actual fact that her husband was actually banging anything with a heartbeat.
Apos: As James Carville and Mary Matalin have shown, it *can* be done.
spcMike: You know who else died on the fourth of July.
Magorn: borg: If Whitewater was a conspiracy then why did 18 people go to prison over it including a Governor of Arkansas. Amazing everyone involved was dirty except The Clintons.Mostly for absurd charges only tangentially related to the original ones. When you have a prosecutor who was appointed to look into a land deal in Arkansas investigating the president's mistress on non-criminal sexual conduct in the White house that happened a decade after said land deal, well you know precisely how far off the rails the whole thing went
NotoriousW.O.P: I worked for the Pittsburgh Trib for a while. Unfortunately, any good journalism they turned out (and they were capable of turning out good journalism) was overshadowed by an editorial page that reflected Scaife's political views -- which could turn bizarre (for example, an editorial suggested that Katharine Graham had her husband killed and took over the Washington Post).I think it's particularly telling that the only people who are speaking well about him are the ones who drew a paycheck from him -- and might not continue to do so for much longer. According to divorce filings from his second wife, the Trib lost about $30 million a year, and I can't imagine things have gotten better. The one owner who could stomach those kinds of losses is dead now, and I've got a lot of friends still at the Trib who are kind of nervous right now.
AMonkey'sUncle: spcMike: You know who else died on the fourth of July.Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. Jefferson said just before he died, "Adams lives!" Not for long.
GameSprocket: The problem with Hillary running for President is that it would be a race between a hard-core conservative willing to sell their soul for a political career and whoever the GOP picks.Seriously, I don't like Hillary. She co-sponsored a bill to criminalize flag-burning, for God's sake! I have never met anyone who has burned a flag as part of a protest who was not a total douche, but you can't say it isn't political speech. It is one of the most clear-cut cases of "I don't like it, but I will defend your right to do it" that there is.
Magorn: In retrospect, given everything that's happened since. I stand by each and every one of those words. A bit purple, maybe, but not by much. This is why I was overjoyed when I say the other GL thread about Obama reportedly quietly promising Warren support if she runs. I really do want an alternative to Hillary. I simply do not trust her judgment.
HotWingConspiracy: So many graves to piss on.
The One True TheDavid: Those frigging Clintons are too right-wing for me.
Magorn: In 2008 when I read about Hillary's sit-down with Scaife's paper that was referenced in the Article, I wrote this on my own blog I had at the time
CptnSpldng: HotWingConspiracy: So many graves to piss on.Maybe if you hurry you could have a bowl of Cinncinnati chili and leave a deposit in the grave before they fill it in.
Magorn: David Brooks Brock the man who was the lead "hitman" later had a change of heart and laid it all out chapter and verse.
Headso: CptnSpldng: HotWingConspiracy: So many graves to piss on.Maybe if you hurry you could have a bowl of Cinncinnati chili and leave a deposit in the grave before they fill it in.Cincinnati chili becomes a Cleveland steamer?
dryknife: Apos: As James Carville and Mary Matalin have shown, it *can* be done.Is she that deaf actress?
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