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2014-07-07 11:15:12 AM  
#1:  Low, low labor cost...it's like the people on the farms are working for FREE!
 
2014-07-07 11:42:36 AM  
I joined a CSA a couple summers ago. Lots and lots of vegetables that I hated. But such a variety of vegetables I hated!

But I did learn of green zebra tomatoes. That was a good day.
 
2014-07-07 11:56:44 AM  
THE SLAW SHALL RISE AGAIN!
 
2014-07-07 12:30:01 PM  
I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.
 
2014-07-07 01:03:53 PM  

Lando Lincoln: I joined a CSA a couple summers ago. Lots and lots of vegetables that I hated. But such a variety of vegetables I hated!

But I did learn of green zebra tomatoes. That was a good day.


I hated the fact that I had to pick it up every week
 
2014-07-07 01:23:07 PM  

xanadian: THE SLAW SHALL RISE AGAIN!


I wonder if they have a mix of hot peppers called "Atlanta"...
 
2014-07-07 01:54:34 PM  
As God is my witness, I shall never go hungry again!

Well, until winter at least.
 
2014-07-07 01:56:35 PM  
Then, suddenly KALE!
 
2014-07-07 02:07:24 PM  
So you can say "What the hell am I supposed to do with five pounds of chard?"
 
2014-07-07 02:13:25 PM  
We don't have anything like that around here, but the local farmers market is pretty cool
 
2014-07-07 02:39:21 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: So you can say "What the hell am I supposed to do with five pounds of chard?"


www.wearysloth.com
 
2014-07-07 03:52:18 PM  

Lando Lincoln: I joined a CSA a couple summers ago. Lots and lots of vegetables that I hated. But such a variety of vegetables I hated!

But I did learn of green zebra tomatoes. That was a good day.


We tried it a few years ago, and had much the same experience.  Lots of vegetables that we didn't want, little of what we did want, and more expensive than going to the asian market to get what we wanted.
 
2014-07-07 04:03:40 PM  
www.ospreypublishing.com
 
2014-07-07 04:20:08 PM  

xanadian: THE SLAW SHALL RISE AGAIN!


www.operatorchan.org
 
2014-07-07 04:37:08 PM  
So my wife and I sprang for a CSA this year. That's right, my bacon-gobbling square old ass signed up with the most hardcore-hippie envirovegan farm in the region - not a piece of power equipment in sight. They use horses to till the fields.

Yeah, lots of chard and kale so far. But lots of the best damn strawberries I have ever had, also. It's too bad my wife ran out of time to make pie with them because she was so busy looking up chard and kale recipes.

So far the price is about comparable to the local supermarket, and with the CSA we know damn well we're not buying produce that looks good but tastes like cardboard because it's been bred to survive a trip from Chile, or that'll go bad the minute it's away from the display shelf.
 
2014-07-07 04:38:41 PM  

xanadian: THE SLAW SHALL RISE AGAIN!


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2014-07-07 04:39:34 PM  
I say, I say, I do declare, this succulent peach reminds me of my days back at Belle Isle.
 
2014-07-07 04:51:19 PM  
I never have good gift ideas for my wife. This is going on the list, though.
 
2014-07-07 05:47:31 PM  

BalugaJoe: [www.ospreypublishing.com image 300x404]


Looks interesting, thanks
 
2014-07-07 06:00:09 PM  

Gonz: I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.


Not if you saute it and add it to a ricotta tart (check with your  dairy CSA for fresh ricotta).

Saute stems and a diced onion in olive oil until tender. Add torn leaves and salt and pepper. Put the lid on until wilted.

Meanwhile, in a large bowl, mix together 16 ounces of ricotta, 1/2 C fresh, grated parm (or any odds and ends of hard cheese hanging out in your cheese drawer), a whole egg, salt, pepper, 1 T fresh thyme (or your favorite herb, 1/2 t crushed red pepper flakes (optional but good), salt, pepper, and a good grating of nutmeg. When the leaves have wilted, fold the stuff from the pan into the bowl.

Put in your favorite pie crust, sprinkle with a bit more hard cheese, and bake at 400F for 40 minutes or so coontil the edges are firm but the middle is still a bit soft but set).

This also works with Kale.
 
2014-07-07 06:04:43 PM  

Gonz: I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.


7/10 -- I almost bit.
 
2014-07-07 06:06:37 PM  

Gonz: I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.


static.comicvine.com
 
2014-07-07 06:08:26 PM  
I did a meat CSA...it was pretty awesome. However, if I do it again it will be the smaller delivery.Iit took me forever to eat it all down and I grill a lot.
 
2014-07-07 06:10:21 PM  
If I already didn't have the garden in the back, I'd be down with joining a CSA.  I spent a year in a co-op and having to make meals with the random boxes of vegetables that showed up in the fridge taught me how to actually cook as opposed to just following a recipe.

But all the ones 'round here are pricey as hell anyway, so meh.  And only the larger operations have CSAs (although just 'larger' in terms of compared to other small farmers).  I help run a farmer's market and I think (?) none of our vendors have CSAs, although there is one woman who makes ready to eat meals from local farmers with a CSA style arrangement.

/shrug
 
2014-07-07 06:10:33 PM  

BKITU: xanadian: THE SLAW SHALL RISE AGAIN!

[www.operatorchan.org image 333x500]


Just stole that pic
 
2014-07-07 06:12:19 PM  
But... She has HUGE... Tracts of land....
 
2014-07-07 06:12:22 PM  

TheYeti: I did a meat CSA...it was pretty awesome. However, if I do it again it will be the smaller delivery.Iit took me forever to eat it all down and I grill a lot.


Not quite a CSA, but when we had more money we used to buy in with a local rancher for some meat, mostly beef and pork.  Oh man, I have never had such deliciousness.  So much too.  I eat a lot of meat and I couldn't keep up.  It was amazing.

I could never do a veggie CSA.  While I adore most veggies, there are far too many I don't like or can't eat.  Any kind of bell pepper for example is straight out.
 
2014-07-07 06:13:06 PM  
They're pushing CSAs around here, although 90% of the veggies aren't grown within 200 miles of here.

There are stray fields of various peppers, tomatoes, and cucumbers, but all those are contracted. They pick enough to fill the contracts, then destroy the unharvested leftover crop because the contracts require that nothing from the field can be sold or even given away (as that could potentially encroach on their target markets.) I watched them shred and plow under about 100 acres of perfectly beautiful unharvested bell and jalapeno, and 20+ acres of tomatoes about 3 miles from me last year because of that. Cucumber contracts are usually open ended because there's always some place they can ship extra cukes for big bucks.
 
2014-07-07 06:13:28 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: So you can say "What the hell am I supposed to do with five pounds of chard?"


Five pounds of chard (or kale) will easily make twenty pounds of vomit.
 
2014-07-07 06:14:29 PM  
The fact that you can buy tomatoes any time of the year at the grocery store has left us all confused. Tomatoes grow in the summer and that's it. When you eat from your local farm, you have no choice but to eat seasonal options. It's good for us, for the farmers, and the earth.

What a load of shiat. Eating a variety vegetables, year round, regardless of the season, is good for you. And good for the farmers that grow them down in Mexico.
 
2014-07-07 06:15:48 PM  

TheYeti: I did a meat CSA...it was pretty awesome. However, if I do it again it will be the smaller delivery.Iit took me forever to eat it all down and I grill a lot.


I was very, very tempted to put down money to buy a part of a cow with the SO's grandma and her neighbors, but then I remembered I don't have a chest freezer so it was probably not the best idea.

Did you get a variety of meats at least?  I'd actually be down to join a meat CSA if it was just regular deliveries of a variety of meats and cuts from decently raised animals and not an absurd amount of it.  As it is I don't buy meat all that often, except at restaurants, because it's been ages since I've been able to get to the market on the one day I week the local organic meat or fresh caught fish sellers are around.  And buying meat for the sake of meat if it isn't gonna taste awesome isn't that appealing to me anymore, unless I don't have to prepare it, because I am lazy like that sometimes.

Dammit, I miss that fish, though.  Great lakes whitefish.  Good, good stuff.
 
2014-07-07 06:17:51 PM  
We have been CSA members for many years in the Seattle area, and we love it. Learned about kohlrabi, mastered stir fry with bok choy, gailon, and other tasty veggies, and the kid chows down on healthy fruit salads and leafy salads all the time. Any vegetable tastes good if you cook it up with a little bacon and onions, and oven roasted root veggies are winners in our house. By needing to get through what you receive each week, we eat much, much healthier during the harvest season. (June - Oct)
 
2014-07-07 06:19:52 PM  
Swiss chard is indeed leafy sadness. Maybe it's a super-taster thing, but I've tried the "well you just haven't tried it in _______!" recipes and nope, what might have been a very nice risotto or stir fry just tastes of nothing but bitter, soapy regret that I included chard in the recipe. Bleh.
 
2014-07-07 06:20:18 PM  
If you can, grow it yourself.

Exercise + fresh veggies, it's a win win!!!!

//Sweet corn is over 6' tall already.
 
2014-07-07 06:21:01 PM  

Gonz: What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard.


1. Tolerant of a huge variety of temperatures.
2. Doesn't bolt.
3. No pests.
4. Pretty.

It's like wonder-lettuce. And as a bonus, it doesn't have the flavor and texture of fish food like kale has.
 
2014-07-07 06:21:33 PM  

That Guy Jeff: The fact that you can buy tomatoes any time of the year at the grocery store has left us all confused. Tomatoes grow in the summer and that's it. When you eat from your local farm, you have no choice but to eat seasonal options. It's good for us, for the farmers, and the earth.

What a load of shiat. Eating a variety vegetables, year round, regardless of the season, is good for you. And good for the farmers that grow them down in Mexico.


... yeah, expecting certain fresh vegetables year round is kind of stupid, but you can eat local vegetables all year round if you do some planning, even if you're quite far from Mexico.

Season Extension + Canning, Freezing, Drying, Root Cellar Storage, Whatever.  I mean, I'm pretty sure people survived in Michigan before we got to the point where we could easily ship up tomatoes all year round.

Anyway, eating a variety of vegetables year round is good for you and all.  But winter tomatoes taste like crap, probably because they were bred to handle shipping and not for flavor.  Eating local and with the seasons just tastes a hell of a lot better, screw every other consideration if you like.

I'm gonna go home now and eat a whole bunch of mulberries and raspberries, and pick some more and freeze 'em when I get full.  Good times.  Probably red-stained hands, but good times.
 
2014-07-07 06:24:34 PM  

This text is now purple: Gonz: What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard.

1. Tolerant of a huge variety of temperatures.
2. Doesn't bolt.
3. No pests.
4. Pretty.

It's like wonder-lettuce. And as a bonus, it doesn't have the flavor and texture of fish food like kale has.


You don't have leaf miners in your area, do you?

We gave up trying to grow it because of those damn leaf miners.  Even row covers didn't help.

www.digginfood.com
 
2014-07-07 06:25:35 PM  

Gulper Eel: It's too bad my wife ran out of time to make pie with them because she was so busy looking up chard and kale recipes.


And you are incapable of helping put up the chard and kale and making your own strawberry pie because ?  ?  ?
 
2014-07-07 06:26:34 PM  

meat0918: This text is now purple: Gonz: What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard.

1. Tolerant of a huge variety of temperatures.
2. Doesn't bolt.
3. No pests.
4. Pretty.

It's like wonder-lettuce. And as a bonus, it doesn't have the flavor and texture of fish food like kale has.

You don't have leaf miners in your area, do you?

We gave up trying to grow it because of those damn leaf miners.  Even row covers didn't help.

[www.digginfood.com image 475x317]


You've never grown brussels sprouts, have you?

Chard gets some bugs, but less than the bok choi, spinach, and cabbages do. They tolerate frost better than the spinach and choi, and unlike them, don't bolt as soon as May hits. They just camp out under the peppers until September.

And it keeps the rhubarb company.
 
2014-07-07 06:28:05 PM  

This text is now purple: Gonz: What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard.

1. Tolerant of a huge variety of temperatures.
2. Doesn't bolt.
3. No pests.
4. Pretty.

It's like wonder-lettuce. And as a bonus, it doesn't have the flavor and texture of fish food like kale has.


Um.... I can agree on 3/4, but I've had pests all up and down my damn rainbow chard before.  Including some growing in a windowbox at my Mom and Dad's place that for some stupid reason had black aphids all up and down the stems constantly.   It was edible, and regrew like 3 times that year, but cutting it off and rinsing off the bugs was an exercise in "ick". Did a soap spray once or twice to no effect.  I still have no idea where those SOBs originated from or if they had any plan in life other than traveling up and down the chard.  Didn't seem to be eating it either though the growth was probably hindered a bit.  Since it was in a window box, that was okay.

But chard generally fights off pests rather well, so that's cool.  Kale is the best at pest-avoidance with a modicum of effort IMHO.  And tastes a heck of a lot better after the first frost.  We put it in late and don't really bother harvesting it at all until everything else dies off.
 
2014-07-07 06:30:41 PM  
"Why you should join a CSA" But I don't wanna join the Confederate States of America

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No? How about a nice front yard garden in the Monroe Republic?

They even have these really on-the-nose Confederate uniforms.
 
2014-07-07 06:33:05 PM  

Mr. Right: Gulper Eel: It's too bad my wife ran out of time to make pie with them because she was so busy looking up chard and kale recipes.

And you are incapable of helping put up the chard and kale and making your own strawberry pie because ?  ?  ?


Hell, be lazy and buy some shortcake/pound cake and whipped cream at the store.  Sheesh.
 
2014-07-07 06:33:46 PM  
Both of the local CSAs cost far more than trips to the store.
 
2014-07-07 06:33:57 PM  
me and the GF did this a while back for a couple months. we had to go pick it up at 7am every saturday, and then we just ended up throwing half the stuff out anyway. and most of what we did use was "forcing it", so to speak, and that got old real quick.

i'm not sure these things need to exist. off the top of my head i can think of half a dozen alternatives that are much more reasonable (and realistic) than dragging my ass out of bed at 630 on a saturday so i can come home with a 20lb box of random produce.
 
2014-07-07 06:45:54 PM  

This text is now purple: meat0918: This text is now purple: Gonz: What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard.

1. Tolerant of a huge variety of temperatures.
2. Doesn't bolt.
3. No pests.
4. Pretty.

It's like wonder-lettuce. And as a bonus, it doesn't have the flavor and texture of fish food like kale has.

You don't have leaf miners in your area, do you?

We gave up trying to grow it because of those damn leaf miners.  Even row covers didn't help.

[www.digginfood.com image 475x317]

You've never grown brussels sprouts, have you?

Chard gets some bugs, but less than the bok choi, spinach, and cabbages do. They tolerate frost better than the spinach and choi, and unlike them, don't bolt as soon as May hits. They just camp out under the peppers until September.

And it keeps the rhubarb company.


Tried, and failed miserably. We end up with ants farming the aphids on the brassicas usually, and it isn't really worth it from a yield versus dollars (or calories expended maintaining) standpoint.

Everything else is growing nicely though.

I'd try and take credit, but it's really my wife.  She has done an especially excellent job this year growing things.  We just harvested the garlic, and I had some very nice sized heads, a few almost as bug as my fist.  The onions are ridiculous this year too.

We'd like to save seed too, but don't have a large enough space to grow enough plants for proper genetic diversity among open pollinated plants.
 
2014-07-07 06:48:12 PM  

ElLoco: They're pushing CSAs around here, although 90% of the veggies aren't grown within 200 miles of here.

There are stray fields of various peppers, tomatoes, and cucumbers, but all those are contracted. They pick enough to fill the contracts, then destroy the unharvested leftover crop because the contracts require that nothing from the field can be sold or even given away (as that could potentially encroach on their target markets.) I watched them shred and plow under about 100 acres of perfectly beautiful unharvested bell and jalapeno, and 20+ acres of tomatoes about 3 miles from me last year because of that. Cucumber contracts are usually open ended because there's always some place they can ship extra cukes for big bucks.


They don't donate it to food banks?!?

That sucks pretty damn hard.
 
2014-07-07 06:51:04 PM  

That Guy Jeff: The fact that you can buy tomatoes any time of the year at the grocery store has left us all confused. Tomatoes grow in the summer and that's it. When you eat from your local farm, you have no choice but to eat seasonal options. It's good for us, for the farmers, and the earth.

What a load of shiat. Eating a variety vegetables, year round, regardless of the season, is good for you. And good for the farmers that grow them down in Mexico.


Except full-sized tomatoes taste like a load of crap in the winter. That's why we use only grape or cherry tomatoes in the winter, and just for salads or tarts. Otherwise it's canned tomatoes. Asparagus is my favorite vegetable, but it's really only good for a couple months of the year. The other ten months, the asparagus available are tough, shriveled messes. So, we have frozen or pickled asparagus in the months that it's not so good.

If you buy in season, the produce tastes better and it tends to be cheaper. But, hey, if you want tasteless, expensive produce, I, for one, will not stand in your way. I may laugh at you, but I will not stand in your way.
 
2014-07-07 06:54:43 PM  
I'd rather join one that does 5 things: Meat, potatoes, garlic, and onions. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe peppers, but that's it. I don't need pounds of kale, lettuce or tomatoes.
 
2014-07-07 07:00:53 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I'd rather join one that does 5 things: Meat, potatoes, garlic, and onions. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe peppers, but that's it. I don't need pounds of kale, lettuce or tomatoes.


That was 4 things. 5 including peppers. Maybe I could have the CSA do basic math for me as well, that'd be neat.
 
2014-07-07 07:00:54 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Both of the local CSAs cost far more than trips to the store.


I used to think the same thing, but then I tried the two-person CSA, and I found we had more money left over in the grocery pool. I think I figured out why, too. Fewer trips to the grocery store means fewer impulse purchases and non-food items. I just go to the store every couple of weeks to stock up on staples, as opposed to stopping in a couple times a week like I do if I rely on the store for produce. If you're great at making a list and sticking to it, this wouldn't help you, but it worked for me.

/locavore small premium is $26/week here
 
2014-07-07 07:02:04 PM  
CSAs are the best way to support your local farm.

I don't care.  Mere proximity to me does not budge the needle on my give-a-fark-o-meter.

It reconnects you with how your food is produced.

I don't care.  I'm not trying to commune with the beast every time I eat a farking burger.  If shopping in store A instead of store B makes you feel connected to the land/earth mother/whatever, you're about as deep as a rain puddle.

A big box of farm-fresh produce put together just for you is pretty great.

Wow!  Just for  me?  But if I go to the grocery store and fill up a basket with the same shiat, who is that for?  Still me, yes?

CSAs are the best way to learn about new foods.

I'm betting the internet can supply more comprehensive information about more foods I've never heard of in 15 minutes than a lifetime of farmer's markets could ever hope to do.

You'll get to visit the farm and see where your food grows.

Wow, and I can pick my own produce, too?!  So you're saying they've found a way to get me to do more of the work, and this is being sold as if it's a farking favor to me?  Go fark yourself.

CSAs give farmers a chance to get the marketing done before their busy season.

I can see why the farmers would care about that.  Strictly speaking, it's not the customer's problem.

You save money on top-quality groceries.

Way to bury the lede.  This is the only farking thing on the list that's remotely compelling.

Your understanding of seasonal eating will expand dramatically.

Again,  internet.
 
2014-07-07 07:03:04 PM  

DeaH: That Guy Jeff: The fact that you can buy tomatoes any time of the year at the grocery store has left us all confused. Tomatoes grow in the summer and that's it. When you eat from your local farm, you have no choice but to eat seasonal options. It's good for us, for the farmers, and the earth.

What a load of shiat. Eating a variety vegetables, year round, regardless of the season, is good for you. And good for the farmers that grow them down in Mexico.

Except full-sized tomatoes taste like a load of crap in the winter. That's why we use only grape or cherry tomatoes in the winter, and just for salads or tarts. Otherwise it's canned tomatoes. Asparagus is my favorite vegetable, but it's really only good for a couple months of the year. The other ten months, the asparagus available are tough, shriveled messes. So, we have frozen or pickled asparagus in the months that it's not so good.

If you buy in season, the produce tastes better and it tends to be cheaper. But, hey, if you want tasteless, expensive produce, I, for one, will not stand in your way. I may laugh at you, but I will not stand in your way.


Buying canned tomatoes isn't eating seasonally. You're apparently being unhealthy and hurting farmers and hurting the earth.
 
2014-07-07 07:07:35 PM  

Gonz: I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.


It's the product of slash-&-burn farming...
"chard" v "charred" ...yes of course it's a terrible pun.  But you can't do anything else  with the stuff, can you?
 
2014-07-07 07:17:22 PM  

meat0918: If you can, grow it yourself.

Exercise + fresh veggies, it's a win win!!!!

//Sweet corn is over 6' tall already.


I've tried oh how I've tried, plants see me coming and die.

CSB

One year my mother and I tried raising the same tomato plants, mine on a screen porch, in a pot, watered every other day was destroyed by caterpillars, my mother's planted in the ground with no irrigation, survived despite the fact that she my father took a 3 week long road trip to visit friends and relatives.
 
2014-07-07 07:17:42 PM  

Mr. Right: And you are incapable of helping put up the chard and kale and making your own strawberry pie because ?  ?  ?


She's very territorial about the kitchen. My zone of culinary responsibility pretty much amounts to whatever can be cooked outdoors, plus bacon, fish, and alcoholic beverages.

I get to be territorial about loading the dishwasher, mainly because she loads the thing ass backwards.
 
2014-07-07 07:22:16 PM  

lindalouwho: ElLoco: They're pushing CSAs around here, although 90% of the veggies aren't grown within 200 miles of here.

There are stray fields of various peppers, tomatoes, and cucumbers, but all those are contracted. They pick enough to fill the contracts, then destroy the unharvested leftover crop because the contracts require that nothing from the field can be sold or even given away (as that could potentially encroach on their target markets.) I watched them shred and plow under about 100 acres of perfectly beautiful unharvested bell and jalapeno, and 20+ acres of tomatoes about 3 miles from me last year because of that. Cucumber contracts are usually open ended because there's always some place they can ship extra cukes for big bucks.

They don't donate it to food banks?!?

That sucks pretty damn hard.


It's a contract stipulation. Any excess can either be bought by the contractors at current market value if they exercise the option, or has to be destroyed. It can't even be donated without breaching the contracts. I've even asked if they'd mind if I picked a 5 gal bucket of various things to stick in my freezer before they shred it. No dice. And I mean they don't screw around... as soon as the last acre is designated to fulfill the last contract, they start destroying it on the other side of the fields before they've even finished harvesting.

From a 'we all live in the same world' point of view, it's farking stupid beyond reason, but what isn't these days?
 
2014-07-07 07:29:43 PM  

ElLoco: lindalouwho: ElLoco: They're pushing CSAs around here, although 90% of the veggies aren't grown within 200 miles of here.

There are stray fields of various peppers, tomatoes, and cucumbers, but all those are contracted. They pick enough to fill the contracts, then destroy the unharvested leftover crop because the contracts require that nothing from the field can be sold or even given away (as that could potentially encroach on their target markets.) I watched them shred and plow under about 100 acres of perfectly beautiful unharvested bell and jalapeno, and 20+ acres of tomatoes about 3 miles from me last year because of that. Cucumber contracts are usually open ended because there's always some place they can ship extra cukes for big bucks.

They don't donate it to food banks?!?

That sucks pretty damn hard.

It's a contract stipulation. Any excess can either be bought by the contractors at current market value if they exercise the option, or has to be destroyed. It can't even be donated without breaching the contracts. I've even asked if they'd mind if I picked a 5 gal bucket of various things to stick in my freezer before they shred it. No dice. And I mean they don't screw around... as soon as the last acre is designated to fulfill the last contract, they start destroying it on the other side of the fields before they've even finished harvesting.

From a 'we all live in the same world' point of view, it's farking stupid beyond reason, but what isn't these days?


Mine donates to a local food bank.

Also y'all are crazy- swiss chard is goddamn delicious.

I'm getting peaches this week!!! Can't wait.
Today I ate from my csa- cucumber, beet greens, spinach, and zucchini. And eggs.
 
2014-07-07 07:34:03 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: So you can say "What the hell am I supposed to do with five pounds of chard?"


Mine is obsessed with beets. Twice a month all season (june through nov)... beets.
 
2014-07-07 07:35:36 PM  
My wife and I do a small share of the local CSA. Lots of leafy greens I don't care for but I will likely live longer.
 
2014-07-07 07:37:14 PM  

INeedAName: My wife and I do a small share of the local CSA. Lots of leafy greens I don't care for but I will likely live longer.


Tell your wife that there is scientific evidence that you absorb the nutrients from leafy greens better when they're paired with fats. Enjoy bacon and sauteed kale. (Seriously there is - Google it).
 
2014-07-07 07:41:21 PM  

Gulper Eel: Mr. Right: And you are incapable of helping put up the chard and kale and making your own strawberry pie because ?  ?  ?

She's very territorial about the kitchen. My zone of culinary responsibility pretty much amounts to whatever can be cooked outdoors, plus bacon, fish, and alcoholic beverages.

I get to be territorial about loading the dishwasher, mainly because she loads the thing ass backwards.


It's ok to say "because that's a woman's job..." because it is.
 
2014-07-07 07:41:26 PM  

That Guy Jeff: DeaH: That Guy Jeff: The fact that you can buy tomatoes any time of the year at the grocery store has left us all confused. Tomatoes grow in the summer and that's it. When you eat from your local farm, you have no choice but to eat seasonal options. It's good for us, for the farmers, and the earth.

What a load of shiat. Eating a variety vegetables, year round, regardless of the season, is good for you. And good for the farmers that grow them down in Mexico.

Except full-sized tomatoes taste like a load of crap in the winter. That's why we use only grape or cherry tomatoes in the winter, and just for salads or tarts. Otherwise it's canned tomatoes. Asparagus is my favorite vegetable, but it's really only good for a couple months of the year. The other ten months, the asparagus available are tough, shriveled messes. So, we have frozen or pickled asparagus in the months that it's not so good.

If you buy in season, the produce tastes better and it tends to be cheaper. But, hey, if you want tasteless, expensive produce, I, for one, will not stand in your way. I may laugh at you, but I will not stand in your way.

Buying canned tomatoes isn't eating seasonally. You're apparently being unhealthy and hurting farmers and hurting the earth.


Actually, buying canned tomatoes is eating seasonally because they are picked and packed in-season, which is cheaper for manufacturers. And, if one cans one's own tomatoes, this is a guarantee.

If you must snark, don't stupid snark.
 
2014-07-07 07:44:40 PM  

xanadian: THE SLAW SHALL RISE AGAIN!


You been saving that one for just the right thread, haven't you?
 
2014-07-07 07:45:00 PM  
You better join the Crime Syndicate of Amerika...or else...

img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-07-07 07:53:05 PM  

Tom_Slick: meat0918: If you can, grow it yourself.

Exercise + fresh veggies, it's a win win!!!!

//Sweet corn is over 6' tall already.

I've tried oh how I've tried, plants see me coming and die.

CSB

One year my mother and I tried raising the same tomato plants, mine on a screen porch, in a pot, watered every other day was destroyed by caterpillars, my mother's planted in the ground with no irrigation, survived despite the fact that she my father took a 3 week long road trip to visit friends and relatives.


Just taking a stab at diagnosing the tomato failure you describe.

Sunlight. I work in a garden center (I'm also in school to get a degree in Horticulture) and this time of year, the most common question I get is "what's wrong with my tomatoes?" I always start that conversation with this question "How much shade are they getting?". They'll go off about how their plants are under a tree, or on a porch, or by the side of the house, etc. They'll quantify it, "oh they get at least three hours of shade every day. You know, just to protect them from that hot mid-day sun".

Facepalm.

My favorite part of the conversation is the dead blank look on their faces when I tell them the shade they've just described is the problem. Tomatoes are a sun plant. If you want the vigorous, healthy, superproducing plants your grandparents grew, a minimum of 8 hours of sun is a non-negotiable necessity. Any less and the plant goes into survival mode, less fruit, less foliage, depending on the variety and the amount of light it's getting it may get really leggy, trying to reach for light, or it may dwarf itself. The roots will start pulling more nutrients from the soil, to compensate for the lack of sunlight, which makes the plant more attractive to pests that eat it, like caterpillars.

This would illustrate why crops are grown in wide-open fields, with no trees.
 
2014-07-07 08:23:43 PM  

DeaH: Smeggy Smurf: Both of the local CSAs cost far more than trips to the store.

I used to think the same thing, but then I tried the two-person CSA, and I found we had more money left over in the grocery pool. I think I figured out why, too. Fewer trips to the grocery store means fewer impulse purchases and non-food items. I just go to the store every couple of weeks to stock up on staples, as opposed to stopping in a couple times a week like I do if I rely on the store for produce. If you're great at making a list and sticking to it, this wouldn't help you, but it worked for me.

/locavore small premium is $26/week here


I have three WinCo Foods stores within a 7 mile radius.  Hitting the store is no problem for me.  I also have three large fruit stands within the same radius.  Rarely do I make an impulse purchase for food because I go full foodie on almost every meal these days.  You simply can't wing it like that.  The upside is Mrs. Smurf is steadily losing weight so it's worth the extra effort.

The CSAs would force us to wing it on the food more often than I would care to do.
 
2014-07-07 08:27:51 PM  

PolyHatSnake: Just taking a stab at diagnosing the tomato failure you describe.

Sunlight. I work in a garden center (I'm also in school to get a degree in Horticulture) and this time of year, the most common question I get is "what's wrong with my tomatoes?" I always start that conversation with this question "How much shade are they getting?". They'll go off about how their plants are under a tree, or on a porch, or by the side of the house, etc. They'll quantify it, "oh they get at least three hours of shade every day. You know, just to protect them from that hot mid-day sun".

Facepalm.

My favorite part of the conversation is the dead blank look on their faces when I tell them the shade they've just described is the problem. Tomatoes are a sun plant. If you want the vigorous, healthy, superproducing plants your grandparents grew, a minimum of 8 hours of sun is a non-negotiable necessity. Any less and the plant goes into survival mode, less fruit, less foliage, depending on the variety and the amount of light it's getting it may get really leggy, trying to reach for light, or it may dwarf itself. The roots will start pulling more nutrients from the soil, to compensate for the lack of sunlight, which makes the plant more attractive to pests that eat it, like caterpillars.

This would illustrate why crops are grown in wide-open fields, with no trees.


I suspect that they are naively assuming that tomatoes require the same treatment as non-edible flowering plants.

For what it's worth, I have successfully grown tomatoes in partial shade (I don't have a choice because I live in a third-story condo and no part of my balcony gets full sun), but they do take a lot longer to put out fruit and ripen.  Fortunately, it also stays relatively warm on my balcony during winter, so I can get away with planting seedlings very early to at least partially compensate.

Now I just need to get better about regular watering...
 
2014-07-07 08:35:17 PM  
No thanks. I'll buy what I want when I want it.
 
2014-07-07 08:38:00 PM  

That Guy Jeff: DeaH: That Guy Jeff: The fact that you can buy tomatoes any time of the year at the grocery store has left us all confused. Tomatoes grow in the summer and that's it. When you eat from your local farm, you have no choice but to eat seasonal options. It's good for us, for the farmers, and the earth.

What a load of shiat. Eating a variety vegetables, year round, regardless of the season, is good for you. And good for the farmers that grow them down in Mexico.

Except full-sized tomatoes taste like a load of crap in the winter. That's why we use only grape or cherry tomatoes in the winter, and just for salads or tarts. Otherwise it's canned tomatoes. Asparagus is my favorite vegetable, but it's really only good for a couple months of the year. The other ten months, the asparagus available are tough, shriveled messes. So, we have frozen or pickled asparagus in the months that it's not so good.

If you buy in season, the produce tastes better and it tends to be cheaper. But, hey, if you want tasteless, expensive produce, I, for one, will not stand in your way. I may laugh at you, but I will not stand in your way.

Buying canned tomatoes isn't eating seasonally. You're apparently being unhealthy and hurting farmers and hurting the earth.


You know what the earth did to me the other day?  It gave me a black eye and twisted my ankle when I drunkenly stumbled off the deck into the yard again.  fark the earth, I'm gonna go drunkenly stumble out to the deck and yell at it for a while.
 
2014-07-07 08:41:48 PM  

PolyHatSnake: Tom_Slick: meat0918: If you can, grow it yourself.

Exercise + fresh veggies, it's a win win!!!!

//Sweet corn is over 6' tall already.

I've tried oh how I've tried, plants see me coming and die.

CSB

One year my mother and I tried raising the same tomato plants, mine on a screen porch, in a pot, watered every other day was destroyed by caterpillars, my mother's planted in the ground with no irrigation, survived despite the fact that she my father took a 3 week long road trip to visit friends and relatives.

Just taking a stab at diagnosing the tomato failure you describe.

Sunlight. I work in a garden center (I'm also in school to get a degree in Horticulture) and this time of year, the most common question I get is "what's wrong with my tomatoes?" I always start that conversation with this question "How much shade are they getting?". They'll go off about how their plants are under a tree, or on a porch, or by the side of the house, etc. They'll quantify it, "oh they get at least three hours of shade every day. You know, just to protect them from that hot mid-day sun".

Facepalm.

My favorite part of the conversation is the dead blank look on their faces when I tell them the shade they've just described is the problem. Tomatoes are a sun plant. If you want the vigorous, healthy, superproducing plants your grandparents grew, a minimum of 8 hours of sun is a non-negotiable necessity. Any less and the plant goes into survival mode, less fruit, less foliage, depending on the variety and the amount of light it's getting it may get really leggy, trying to reach for light, or it may dwarf itself. The roots will start pulling more nutrients from the soil, to compensate for the lack of sunlight, which makes the plant more attractive to pests that eat it, like caterpillars.

This would illustrate why crops are grown in wide-open fields, with no trees.


No it was a failure because a dozen or so caterpillars made short work of all the leaves.
 
2014-07-07 08:43:22 PM  
CSA's: "Farming" for hipsters and trust fund babies.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-07-07 08:48:15 PM  
So you pay in advance and they give you a random box of whatever happened to grow that week, whether you want it or not. In other words it's a vegetable of the week club.

I'll pass.
 
2014-07-07 08:50:14 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: DeaH: Smeggy Smurf: Both of the local CSAs cost far more than trips to the store.

I used to think the same thing, but then I tried the two-person CSA, and I found we had more money left over in the grocery pool. I think I figured out why, too. Fewer trips to the grocery store means fewer impulse purchases and non-food items. I just go to the store every couple of weeks to stock up on staples, as opposed to stopping in a couple times a week like I do if I rely on the store for produce. If you're great at making a list and sticking to it, this wouldn't help you, but it worked for me.

/locavore small premium is $26/week here

I have three WinCo Foods stores within a 7 mile radius.  Hitting the store is no problem for me.  I also have three large fruit stands within the same radius.  Rarely do I make an impulse purchase for food because I go full foodie on almost every meal these days.  You simply can't wing it like that.  The upside is Mrs. Smurf is steadily losing weight so it's worth the extra effort.

The CSAs would force us to wing it on the food more often than I would care to do.


There are valid reasons why some people don't want a CSA. Controlling the menu is one of them. But there are a lot of "full foodie" restaurants with changing menus based on what's in season. I tend to make us much simpler dishes in the summer and fall because the fresh produce is so good that I can get away with it. Tonight we had lamb kafta with whole wheat  cous cous confettied with chopped peppers and scallions. We had a large, mixed greens salad with thinly-sliced radishes, green onion, tomato, and goat cheese.Tomorrow is a zucchini and homemade chorrizo quiche with a marinated cuke and tomato salad. I may get up the gumption to make a Pavlova for the berries, or I might just serve them over cannoli cream (which is just the guts of the cannoli without the shell - easy-peasy). There will be left-overs of the quiche for a couple days, so it's just a matter of changing up the side veg. I don't do anything full-foodie until around Thanksgiving, but I salute you for doing it year round.
 
2014-07-07 08:51:04 PM  
Given the quality and quantity of farmers' markets around here, I see no need to "belong" to a CSA. I can do my part just by shopping at them regularly without being all trendy and neckbeardy.
 
2014-07-07 08:51:49 PM  
Wow... just looked at the prices for local beef, and it is $9/lb, minimum 3lbs purchase, and I have to drive 20 minutes to get there. Or, I can go across the street from my condo, and get it for nearly 1/3 the price.
 
2014-07-07 09:00:15 PM  

Gulper Eel: Mr. Right: And you are incapable of helping put up the chard and kale and making your own strawberry pie because ?  ?  ?

She's very territorial about the kitchen. My zone of culinary responsibility pretty much amounts to whatever can be cooked outdoors, plus bacon, fish, and alcoholic beverages.

I get to be territorial about loading the dishwasher, mainly because she loads the thing ass backwards.


OK, I understand.  It didn't come directly to mind that this might be the case because Mrs. Right is anything but territorial about the kitchen.  Or any other household chore.  Matter of fact, I would end up doing the chard, the kale, and the strawberry pie because her mother didn't teach her to do it, therefore it cannot be done.  I might also point out that her mother was a lousy cook.  Fortunately, I learned my way around a kitchen as a pre-teen.  Mostly out of self defense since my mother would simply refuse to cook if the mood didn't strike her.  The more I learned to do in the kitchen, the more the mood didn't strike her.

So when strawberry season is upon us (and we have our own rather large patch), Mrs. Right may refuse to pick them but she makes up for it by not helping with the cleaning, the jam, the shortcake, the freezing, or the clean up.  Comes time to eat them in whatever form, however, and she's Johnny-on-the-spot.  She will help weed the patch, however.  At least the part that can be done with the tiller.
 
2014-07-07 09:10:09 PM  
Beets.  Lots and lots of beets.  A river of beets.  An ocean of beets.  Every week, more beets.

I farking hate beets.
 
2014-07-07 09:17:05 PM  

Gonz: I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.


I actually have learned, thanks to my CSA, how to cook Swiss chard so it is tasty. I am so glad my CSA includes recipes for the ingredients in each box. Otherwise I would have no clue what to do with chard, collard greens, kohlrabi, or fennel.
 
2014-07-07 09:31:06 PM  
article and thread fail without mentioning:  http://www.localharvest.org/
 
2014-07-07 09:37:17 PM  
Well that was some self-righteous hippie bullshiat.

There are plenty of reasons CSAs are good. Those were just crap.
 
2014-07-07 09:44:10 PM  
Garden porn time.  It's a biatchaotic because some of the early season stuff is done and removed, and I'll let some of the flowers and dill go to seed and grow in the mini paths, and the neighbor hasn't trimmed up the top of the fence we just got done putting up.

These were on 7/3/14.  The corn has gotten taller since then, and the onions bigger.

i457.photobucket.com

i457.photobucket.com

//likes my tiny backyard.
 
2014-07-07 09:54:21 PM  
I'll happily join, provided I get to work with the hot android chick.

/too obscure for Fark?
 
2014-07-07 10:03:40 PM  
"Why you should join a CSA"

Cool Story, Asshole?
 
2014-07-07 10:30:18 PM  
If you don't want your electric appliances to shock you or start a fire, the CSA is a good thing.

s1.postimg.org

http://www.csagroup.org/us/en/home
 
2014-07-07 10:35:22 PM  

yarnothuntin: CSA's: "Farming" for hipsters and trust fund babies.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 600x563]


+1

Every "A" is "CS", otherwise they'd make no money.   CSA isn't a thing, it's just a new hip name for buying and selling things.   For douchebags.
 
2014-07-07 10:37:52 PM  
CSA, which stands for community supported agriculture

Oh yeah, which community?
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-07 10:45:54 PM  
Communism!
 
2014-07-07 10:52:48 PM  

morg: CSA, which stands for community supported agriculture

Oh yeah, which community?
[i.imgur.com image 193x261]


You know, the ones that need an organizer.

i141.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-07 10:57:38 PM  

yukichigai: TheYeti: I did a meat CSA...it was pretty awesome. However, if I do it again it will be the smaller delivery.Iit took me forever to eat it all down and I grill a lot.

Not quite a CSA, but when we had more money we used to buy in with a local rancher for some meat, mostly beef and pork.  Oh man, I have never had such deliciousness.  So much too.  I eat a lot of meat and I couldn't keep up.  It was amazing..


That is why the Good Lord gave us butcher paper and the chest freezer.
(Just finished the last of the two lambs I slaughtered a year ago)
 
2014-07-07 10:58:13 PM  
Well the local area was part of the CSA
 
2014-07-07 10:58:51 PM  

ElLoco: They're pushing CSAs around here, although 90% of the veggies aren't grown within 200 miles of here.

There are stray fields of various peppers, tomatoes, and cucumbers, but all those are contracted. They pick enough to fill the contracts, then destroy the unharvested leftover crop because the contracts require that nothing from the field can be sold or even given away (as that could potentially encroach on their target markets.) I watched them shred and plow under about 100 acres of perfectly beautiful unharvested bell and jalapeno, and 20+ acres of tomatoes about 3 miles from me last year because of that. Cucumber contracts are usually open ended because there's always some place they can ship extra cukes for big bucks.


It's a bit different here. Most of the CSAs guarantee that all produce is grown within 50 or 100 miles. And what they don't sell goes to a number of small markets and food co-ops.
 
2014-07-07 11:03:35 PM  

anuran: yukichigai: TheYeti: I did a meat CSA...it was pretty awesome. However, if I do it again it will be the smaller delivery.Iit took me forever to eat it all down and I grill a lot.

Not quite a CSA, but when we had more money we used to buy in with a local rancher for some meat, mostly beef and pork.  Oh man, I have never had such deliciousness.  So much too.  I eat a lot of meat and I couldn't keep up.  It was amazing..

That is why the Good Lord gave us butcher paper and the chest freezer.
(Just finished the last of the two lambs I slaughtered a year ago)


We actually bought a second freezer for the garage just to store the excess.  Well worth the investment.
 
2014-07-07 11:16:27 PM  

yukichigai: We actually bought a second freezer for the garage just to store the excess.


I read that as 'exes'
As in, all my exes live in Texas
Good idea either way
 
2014-07-07 11:41:38 PM  

Katie98_KT: tallguywithglasseson: So you can say "What the hell am I supposed to do with five pounds of chard?"

Mine is obsessed with beets. Twice a month all season (june through nov)... beets.


img.fark.net
 
2014-07-07 11:48:35 PM  
I enjoyed how the entire case for farm fresh over store bought in TFA and the strawberry one it refers to is seemingly one picture of couple strawberries posted by some guy.  Don't get me wrong, I can and have appreciate farm fresh produce, but can you at least pretend to do some journalism?
 
2014-07-08 12:15:34 AM  
I have a CSA Passport
 
2014-07-08 12:22:01 AM  

meat0918: Tried, and failed miserably. We end up with ants farming the aphids on the brassicas usually, and it isn't really worth it from a yield versus dollars (or calories expended maintaining) standpoint.


Most things aren't. I would hazard that tomatoes and squash *might be*. Which is why I usually grow crops I don't easily find in stores. I grow chard because it's an edible ornamental.
 
2014-07-08 12:33:01 AM  

PolyHatSnake: Just taking a stab at diagnosing the tomato failure you describe.

Sunlight. I work in a garden center (I'm also in school to get a degree in Horticulture) and this time of year, the most common question I get is "what's wrong with my tomatoes?" I always start that conversation with this question "How much shade are they getting?". They'll go off about how their plants are under a tree, or on a porch, or by the side of the house, etc. They'll quantify it, "oh they get at least three hours of shade every day. You know, just to protect them from that hot mid-day sun".

Facepalm.

My favorite part of the conversation is the dead blank look on their faces when I tell them the shade they've just described is the problem. Tomatoes are a sun plant. If you want the vigorous, healthy, superproducing plants your grandparents grew, a minimum of 8 hours of sun is a non-negotiable necessity. Any less and the plant goes into survival mode, less fruit, less foliage, depending on the variety and the amount of light it's getting it may get really leggy, trying to reach for light, or it may dwarf itself. The roots will start pulling more nutrients from the soil, to compensate for the lack of sunlight, which makes the plant more attractive to pests that eat it, like caterpillars.

This would illustrate why crops are grown in wide-open fields, with no trees.


Tomatoes are a tropic species with a vining habit. They want to be climbers. Tomatoes grew up with trees.
 
2014-07-08 01:02:12 AM  
Nice completely blank article. What's it about again?
 
2014-07-08 01:23:10 AM  

This text is now purple: meat0918: Tried, and failed miserably. We end up with ants farming the aphids on the brassicas usually, and it isn't really worth it from a yield versus dollars (or calories expended maintaining) standpoint.

Most things aren't. I would hazard that tomatoes and squash *might be*. Which is why I usually grow crops I don't easily find in stores. I grow chard because it's an edible ornamental.


Heh, that's why we grow artichokes.
 
2014-07-08 01:23:24 AM  
I'm already in CSA

www.sarna.net

Even too obscure for Fark
 
2014-07-08 02:41:29 AM  

lindalouwho: ElLoco: They're pushing CSAs around here, although 90% of the veggies aren't grown within 200 miles of here.

There are stray fields of various peppers, tomatoes, and cucumbers, but all those are contracted. They pick enough to fill the contracts, then destroy the unharvested leftover crop because the contracts require that nothing from the field can be sold or even given away (as that could potentially encroach on their target markets.) I watched them shred and plow under about 100 acres of perfectly beautiful unharvested bell and jalapeno, and 20+ acres of tomatoes about 3 miles from me last year because of that. Cucumber contracts are usually open ended because there's always some place they can ship extra cukes for big bucks.

They don't donate it to food banks?!?

That sucks pretty damn hard.


Then those food bank clients would just get nourishment for free and that's not fair to the industrialists, lawyers and investment bankers who pay good money for fresh baby vegetables to dress up the plates beside their dry-aged porterhouse steaks. What kind of Republican are you?
 
2014-07-08 05:20:03 AM  
Not to threadjock, but I have a heckuva lot of acquaintances from the deep south. Most are knifemakers and tend to be rather old-fashioned conservative. Most common statement after a couple of drinks is "The War B'tween the States had nuthin ' t'do with Slavery!" closely followed by statements about the tens of thousands of black troops in the Southern army, etc. etc. And how the real bigots always lived in the North.
To which the question "Then what was all that crap with the Klan after the war about?" elicits several seconds of crickets chirping for a response, followed by one person saying apologetically "I think that was Larry's great-grandpappy. He wuz a mean drunk."
 
2014-07-08 05:54:54 AM  

DeaH: Gonz: I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.

Not if you saute it and add it to a ricotta tart (check with your  dairy CSA for fresh ricotta).



I read that as "salute"... twice. Time for bed, apparently, but I now have something new to keep me amused at restaurants.

/Gonna have to figure out what chard is eventually.
 
2014-07-08 06:41:15 AM  

Gonz: I absolutely love my CSA. I like knowing my farmers' names.

What I don't understand is why people, in 2014, continue to insist upon growing Swiss chard. I don't like someone delivering sadness to my doorstep, and Swiss chard is green, leafy sadness.


The last several weeks have been full of red beets here. We can't keep up with the amount we're getting.

At least today, I think it's Jalapeno time! :)
 
2014-07-08 09:48:06 AM  
We joined a CSA for the last 2 summers through a store that cobbled together a box from NY and NJ farmers. $25 a week for a box of mostly goodness. The local spice shop would occasionally throw in a spice mix too which was awesome. We'd boil, puree and freeze any vegetables we didn't get around to eating or just didn't like and mix it in with our dog's dry food. I learned to love swiss chard (with bacon and garlic of course) and loathe some other greens.

I don't know why but they closed earlier this year. We thought they were moving to a bigger, more accessible location (they were in a small store in a busy downtown that was a pain in the ass for pickups). The CSA - which ran from May through November - was extremely popular (long waiting list). They sold some other stuff in the store like local poultry, sausages and other good'ins but they were kind of pricey. Maybe that was their downfall.

We were going to skip it this year anyway as the last few months we've been busy buying a house and packing. Gotta find a new one for next year, but there's always the farmer's market.
 
2014-07-08 02:02:12 PM  

meat0918: biatchaotic


Djoo just make that up?  Prolly, eh?  Noice.
 
2014-07-08 02:18:49 PM  

420Counsellor: meat0918: biatchaotic

Djoo just make that up?  Prolly, eh?  Noice.


Looks more a filterpwn.
 
2014-07-08 02:45:38 PM  

anfrind: 420Counsellor: meat0918: biatchaotic

Djoo just make that up?  Prolly, eh?  Noice.

Looks more a filterpwn.


yeah bit plus the ch from chaotic.
 
2014-07-08 03:06:48 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Wow... just looked at the prices for local beef, and it is $9/lb, minimum 3lbs purchase, and I have to drive 20 minutes to get there. Or, I can go across the street from my condo, and get it for nearly 1/3 the price.


Wow, that's insane. Find yourself a local beef producer and deal with him directly. He'll probably be willing to raise a cow for you and send it off to be butchered. We did that and ended up with an entire deep freezer full of beef for less than $3 per pound. Generally speaking, you'll pay the farmer for the cow and then pay a meat locker for processing. If you don't know any farmers who raise beef, try to find a local livestock market, some sort of sale barn, and you can work from there. Either that, or find a meat locker - some place that does deer processing in the fall is usually a good start - and they can probably hook you up with a beef producer.

Now, that's all going to depend on what the livestock market is doing, but we were able to get the cow at essentially a wholesale price and then paid for the processing. Transportation from farm to locker was handled by the farmer (he's a relative, so he was doing me a favor, essentially) and we picked it up from the locker after it had been hung, processed, and frozen. As should be obvious, this requires an initial large outlay and storage space for a large quantity of frozen meat. Like, at least a 10 cubic foot deep freeze would be a good idea if you're getting a whole cow to yourself. You also will have to familiarize yourself with the butchering process to some extent so you can tell the locker how you want it processed - don't do like I did the very first time and say "...and then put everything else into hamburger" or you'll have 150 pounds of hamburger and come to know the true depths of despair.
 
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