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(The Moveable Fest)   Justin Lin talks about the four-hour-talk it took to convince Vin Diesel to come back to the Fast & Furious franchise, but only after looking at Vin's Dungeons & Dragons collection   (moveablefest.com) divider line 48
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2014-07-07 06:26:22 PM  
I can state with the utmost confidence that my Dungeons and Dragons collection dwarfs Vin Diesel's in comparison.

Considering what a huge D&D fan Vin is, I consider that to be quite an accomplishment on my part.

/Geek contest
//I win
 
2014-07-07 06:31:07 PM  
Diesel is one of those guys who's hard to read. The Rock seems like a gentle, funny guy when the cameras are off. I could just as easily see Diesel gushing about his D&D figurines or screaming at the guy who's taking too long on the squat rack at the gym. He really seems to like getting roles as a badass: Dominic, Riddick, Xander, Taylor Reese, and I'm wondering if he's stuck in the typecast or if he just prefers those acting roles.
 
2014-07-07 06:36:46 PM  
I was wondering happened to that guy after he was traded to the Houston Rockets. Now he's directing F&F movies. Sad.
 
2014-07-07 06:40:36 PM  
He should stick to basketball
 
2014-07-07 06:47:19 PM  

Langston: Diesel is one of those guys who's hard to read. The Rock seems like a gentle, funny guy when the cameras are off. I could just as easily see Diesel gushing about his D&D figurines or screaming at the guy who's taking too long on the squat rack at the gym. He really seems to like getting roles as a badass: Dominic, Riddick, Xander, Taylor Reese, and I'm wondering if he's stuck in the typecast or if he just prefers those acting roles.


He's not just typecast, he IS the type. Actors who look like the Vin Diesel type don't get cast as " the science expert" or "the lovable, goofy sidekick". Whether or not he prefers those action hero roles, I'm sure he's smart enough to know what's gonna pay for his new Monster Manual.
 
2014-07-07 06:52:22 PM  
Well least he gets to sidestep the typecasting by doing voice work i.e the iron giant and groot from gaudians of the galaxy.
 
2014-07-07 06:52:52 PM  
i703.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-07 07:00:28 PM  
6 - Times someone went to jail for Lin while shooting in Tokyo.

That's funny as hell.
 
2014-07-07 07:03:08 PM  

RatMaster999: [i703.photobucket.com image 750x600]


W DMing? He'd choke himself on your d100 before things got off the ground.
 
2014-07-07 07:05:32 PM  
I would love to see Vin's collection.
 
2014-07-07 07:06:43 PM  
Han is the best thing about that movie, and every sequel he's been a part of.

Hopefully Han has a few scenes in the next one.
 
2014-07-07 07:09:14 PM  
Didn't Justin Lin say he was done after FF7? Why is he talking about getting people back?
 
2014-07-07 07:11:03 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: RatMaster999: [i703.photobucket.com image 750x600]

W DMing? He'd choke himself on your d100 before things got off the ground.


D100 were for assholes. Normal people rolled 2d10.
 
2014-07-07 07:14:11 PM  

Fonaibung: Didn't Justin Lin say he was done after FF7? Why is he talking about getting people back?


He was done after Fast 6.

7 is being done by James Wan who did Insidious, Saw, The Conjuring, etc.
 
2014-07-07 07:24:42 PM  
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419749/

Find Me Guilty -- Vin Diesel plays a middle-aged, paunchy, balding middle-manager in the mob.  you'll hardly recognize him.
 
2014-07-07 07:33:11 PM  
Spoilers ahead

That's considerate for a movie that's almost ten years old.
 
2014-07-07 07:34:08 PM  

RatMaster999: [i703.photobucket.com image 750x600]


admit it, if you were President, you would have to do this just once
 
2014-07-07 07:50:09 PM  

Beerguy: I can state with the utmost confidence that my Dungeons and Dragons collection dwarfs Vin Diesel's in comparison.

Considering what a huge D&D fan Vin is, I consider that to be quite an accomplishment on my part.

/Geek contest
//I win


Somehow I doubt that. We're talking about a dude who has his favorite D&D character's name tattooed on his person, and who also has millions of dollars. I know if I had millions of dollars I'd have my regular library, and then my RPG library, which would be filled with at least one copy of every D&D book ever printed (plus every book for half-dozen or so other RPGs I play or have played).

Dingleberry Dickwad: Fark like a Barsoomian: RatMaster999: [i703.photobucket.com image 750x600]

W DMing? He'd choke himself on your d100 before things got off the ground.

D100 were for assholes. Normal people rolled 2d10.


That's how retarded Bush was.
 
2014-07-07 07:50:40 PM  
I confess - I actually played in an AD&D game with Vin Diesel at a CoastCon convention in Biloxi, Mississippi in the early 90s.  It was a sign-up game and I had no idea he was a player until I got there at the start time.

Much to my surprise, he was a pretty good player and had 2nd edition rules down.

That said he did play a barbarian...
 
2014-07-07 08:00:15 PM  

sassyfrancis: I confess - I actually played in an AD&D game with Vin Diesel at a CoastCon convention in Biloxi, Mississippi in the early 90s.  It was a sign-up game and I had no idea he was a player until I got there at the start time.

Much to my surprise, he was a pretty good player and had 2nd edition rules down.

That said he did play a barbarian...


2nd Ed rules weren't that difficult IMO, that's mostly what I played back in the day. Mostly though it depended on your DM and how complicated they wanted to make things. The few DM's I knew didn't bother with some of the rules in order to streamline things.
 
2014-07-07 09:07:03 PM  
Always figured he was a closeted dork
 
2014-07-07 09:17:59 PM  

skyotter: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419749/

Find Me Guilty -- Vin Diesel plays a middle-aged, paunchy, balding middle-manager in the mob.  you'll hardly recognize him.


I've always liked Vin Diesel, despite how much I didn't like XXX and how much I absolutely loathe the FF franchise.  But Vin Diesel is farking awesome.  Dude was farking Riddick.  And he liked being Riddick so much he created a game studio and made that game studio make a game featuring him as Riddick.  Twice.  And 1.5 of those games were some of the finest stealth/action gameplay to ever be gifted to gamers.  He's also, as mentioned in the headline and article, a huge D&D nerd.  I remember reading in a magazine article long ago that he wanted to be in the Dungeons & Dragon movie.  It's best that they didn't, because you know they would've made him a stereotypical warrior.  He would've been wasted.  Dude clearly likes to play Rogue.
 
2014-07-07 09:24:02 PM  
However, after Lin overcame his reluctance to make the film, he recalled how he was somewhat familiar with aftermarket car culture because of a short documentary made by a couple of students in a class he was the TA for at UCLA Film School and when he went to see the first "The Fast and the Furious," he thought, "'Wow, all the Asian-Americans were all the bad guys,' so ["Tokyo Drift"] was a really interesting opportunity to come in with the freedom to do whatever I wanted to."


I dare anyone to try to read this sentence out loud using just one breath.
 
2014-07-07 10:27:49 PM  
F&F?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
2014-07-07 11:04:46 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: sassyfrancis: I confess - I actually played in an AD&D game with Vin Diesel at a CoastCon convention in Biloxi, Mississippi in the early 90s.  It was a sign-up game and I had no idea he was a player until I got there at the start time.

Much to my surprise, he was a pretty good player and had 2nd edition rules down.

That said he did play a barbarian...

2nd Ed rules weren't that difficult IMO, that's mostly what I played back in the day. Mostly though it depended on your DM and how complicated they wanted to make things. The few DM's I knew didn't bother with some of the rules in order to streamline things.


They never did get psionics to work right, and I never could figure that part out. Other than that, 2nd ed was pretty simple, just endless rules editions like all the complete books for kits and the like, and having to tell players no, you can't munchkin every last thing.
 
2014-07-07 11:42:12 PM  
I never played d&d. I played pathfinder. I still have the spreadsheet I made to calculate my 2 weapon fighters stats. She was bad ass.
 
2014-07-08 01:37:45 AM  

Christian Bale: However, after Lin overcame his reluctance to make the film, he recalled how he was somewhat familiar with aftermarket car culture because of a short documentary made by a couple of students in a class he was the TA for at UCLA Film School and when he went to see the first "The Fast and the Furious," he thought, "'Wow, all the Asian-Americans were all the bad guys,' so ["Tokyo Drift"] was a really interesting opportunity to come in with the freedom to do whatever I wanted to."


I dare anyone to try to read this sentence out loud using just one breath.


Bolded is my best effort.
 
2014-07-08 02:31:02 AM  

skyotter: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419749/

Find Me Guilty -- Vin Diesel plays a middle-aged, paunchy, balding middle-manager in the mob.  you'll hardly recognize him.


Plus it was a really good movie. he was excellent.
 
2014-07-08 02:36:38 AM  

mooseyfate: He's also, as mentioned in the headline and article, a huge D&D nerd.  I remember reading in a magazine article long ago that he wanted to be in the Dungeons & Dragon movie.  It's best that they didn't, because you know they would've made him a stereotypical warrior.  He would've been wasted.  Dude clearly likes to play Rogue.


He has never been shy about being a D&D player. It's pretty well-known trivia, despite what some people seem to think. He's been on record as saying he likes to play half-orc barbarians though.

@Fano

Psionics worked pretty fine in 3.5.
 
2014-07-08 05:14:03 AM  
5E is out. And boy does it suck compared to the well-balanced 4E. Suck it, 5E. Discuss.

Alternatively:

5E is out. And boy is it so much better than that pseudo-board game 4E. Suck it, 4E. Discuss.
 
2014-07-08 07:29:22 AM  
5e seems to be a 'best of both worlds' version of 2e and 3e.  I've only seen the download pdf but I'm really excited about it.  Will play at GenCon.

VD is a cool dude, I enjoy most of his movies.
 
2014-07-08 08:33:18 AM  
I love this franchise, oddly enough I'm ostracized by fellow f&f for saying TD is my favorite
 
2014-07-08 08:34:30 AM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: sassyfrancis: I confess - I actually played in an AD&D game with Vin Diesel at a CoastCon convention in Biloxi, Mississippi in the early 90s.  It was a sign-up game and I had no idea he was a player until I got there at the start time.

Much to my surprise, he was a pretty good player and had 2nd edition rules down.

That said he did play a barbarian...

2nd Ed rules weren't that difficult IMO, that's mostly what I played back in the day. Mostly though it depended on your DM and how complicated they wanted to make things. The few DM's I knew didn't bother with some of the rules in order to streamline things.


In one interview, Diesel said he played a 'witchhunter' in one game growing up. That implies that he
may have also played Arduin Grimoire, an early RPG published in the wake of AD&D's initial success.

That means he is, or at least was, a geek's Geek.  Arduin was NOT something a casual player would
pick up.

Aboleth: 5E is out. And boy does it suck compared to the well-balanced 4E. Suck it, 5E. Discuss.

Alternatively:

5E is out. And boy is it so much better than that pseudo-board game 4E. Suck it, 4E. Discuss.


5E feels like D&D, something 4E never did.  And you can run a combat effectively without miniatures,
something that was difficult in 3/3.5E (though not impossible), and impossible in 4E.

I don't know if I'll invest in the full set of 5E books, but I might just pick up the basic rulebook.
 
2014-07-08 08:48:18 AM  

Lackofname: I would love to see Vin's collection.



You forgot to add, 'If you get my drift'.
 
2014-07-08 08:53:53 AM  

Marshmallow Jones: Always figured he was a closeted dork


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okvRdTYWkDI

Boogaloo Diesel
 
2014-07-08 10:14:01 AM  

Aboleth: 5E is out. And boy does it suck compared to the well-balanced 4E. Suck it, 5E. Discuss.

Alternatively:

5E is out. And boy is it so much better than that pseudo-board game 4E. Suck it, 4E. Discuss.


Suck it 5E. Long live 4th edition!
 
2014-07-08 10:18:36 AM  
Little Bow Wow was in a FF movie? I best that casting agent hasn't worked since.
 
2014-07-08 10:19:33 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: In one interview, Diesel said he played a 'witchhunter' in one game growing up. That implies that he
may have also played Arduin Grimoire, an early RPG published in the wake of AD&D's initial success.


Or Warhammer Quest
 
2014-07-08 10:23:32 AM  

ChaosStar: DjangoStonereaver: In one interview, Diesel said he played a 'witchhunter' in one game growing up. That implies that he
may have also played Arduin Grimoire, an early RPG published in the wake of AD&D's initial success.

Or Warhammer Quest


DIesel is a couple of years younger than me, which means he was in middle- and high-school during the
initial RPG boom in the early 80s.  WARHAMMER QUEST came out in '95, and he clearly said this was
from his high school RPG days in the interview.
 
2014-07-08 11:03:59 AM  

Christian Bale: However, after Lin overcame his reluctance to make the film, he recalled how he was somewhat familiar with aftermarket car culture because of a short documentary made by a couple of students in a class he was the TA for at UCLA Film School and when he went to see the first "The Fast and the Furious," he thought, "'Wow, all the Asian-Americans were all the bad guys,' so ["Tokyo Drift"] was a really interesting opportunity to come in with the freedom to do whatever I wanted to."


I dare anyone to try to read this sentence out loud using just one breath.


It's as far as I got.
 
2014-07-08 11:10:23 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: 5E feels like D&D, something 4E never did.  And you can run a combat effectively without miniatures,
something that was difficult in 3/3.5E (though not impossible), and impossible in 4E.


Admittedly 3.5 was an edition whose primary purpose was to sell more licensed merchandise and it specifically pushed the grid/miniature thing, but I think classing it as being difficult to play without minis may be stretching it more than a bit.  I've played and run modules that even had pre-printed grid maps all ready to go and never touched a one.

Admittedly not needing minis and stupid grid-math was sometimes replaced by a whole lot of real math (fireball plus fun with geometry alone has killed a few notebooks' worth of scratch paper for me, I think) but fundamentally the 3.0 system and its sequel gave you 30-foot spheres of fire, not an effect that was defined by having an impact on a square of tactical spaces six units on a side at ground level.

Not that it didn't have its balance issues (Quadratic wizards, linear warriors and the fifteen-minute caster workday come to mind) but 'needing miniatures' wasn't actually really one of them, and the various expansions and settings only fuzzed things out to make it more unnecessary, in the most extreme case with Eberron actually adding an action dice system (which I'm pleased to see 5E cribbing from) where you can intermittently succeed regardless of things not fitting together quite properly.
 
2014-07-08 11:51:24 AM  

Jim_Callahan: DjangoStonereaver: 5E feels like D&D, something 4E never did.  And you can run a combat effectively without miniatures,
something that was difficult in 3/3.5E (though not impossible), and impossible in 4E.

Admittedly 3.5 was an edition whose primary purpose was to sell more licensed merchandise and it specifically pushed the grid/miniature thing, but I think classing it as being difficult to play without minis may be stretching it more than a bit.  I've played and run modules that even had pre-printed grid maps all ready to go and never touched a one.

Admittedly not needing minis and stupid grid-math was sometimes replaced by a whole lot of real math (fireball plus fun with geometry alone has killed a few notebooks' worth of scratch paper for me, I think) but fundamentally the 3.0 system and its sequel gave you 30-foot spheres of fire, not an effect that was defined by having an impact on a square of tactical spaces six units on a side at ground level.

Not that it didn't have its balance issues (Quadratic wizards, linear warriors and the fifteen-minute caster workday come to mind) but 'needing miniatures' wasn't actually really one of them, and the various expansions and settings only fuzzed things out to make it more unnecessary, in the most extreme case with Eberron actually adding an action dice system (which I'm pleased to see 5E cribbing from) where you can intermittently succeed regardless of things not fitting together quite properly.


The Attack of Opportunity mechanic only makes sense when using miniatures.

When I played my preview round of 5E there wasn't any action dice mechanic used, but I did like the
concept of advantage/disadvantage quite a lot.  It was something that is so bloody obvious that I'm
shocked I had never thought of it myself in more than 30 years of playing D&D.
 
2014-07-08 11:55:54 AM  

LoR75: Han is the best thing about that movie, and every sequel he's been a part of.

Hopefully Han has a few scenes in the next one.


[notsureifserious.jpg]

Marshmallow Jones: Always figured he was a closeted dork


He's been an admitted dork since before XXX came out. The tat on his stomach in the movie is his old barbarian character.

thecpt: I love this franchise,


High five

oddly enough I'm ostracized by fellow f&f for saying TD is my favorite

/uncomfortably puts hand down
//only thing worse would be saying DX2 was your favorite in the series
 
2014-07-08 12:02:39 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: When I played my preview round of 5E there wasn't any action dice mechanic used, but I did like the
concept of advantage/disadvantage quite a lot.  It was something that is so bloody obvious that I'm
shocked I had never thought of it myself in more than 30 years of playing D&D.


The action Dice aren't literal dice in this case, they're called something silly like "inspirations" or whatever.  But they're action dice, the GM awards you points by fiat, and when you're in danger of failing or about to do something really stupid that'll kill everyone if you screw it up you can burn a point to hopefully avoid failing (in this case, by gaining advantage on a roll).

Advantage/Disadvantage  is pretty obvious, which is why if you're being charitable you might call it an in-spirit adaptation of the 3.0 fatespinner reroll mechanic.  If you're being less charitable you might instead point out that it's basically stolen outright from any of a half-dozen other d20 systems which feature reroll or double-roll mechanics, such as Spycraft and Spycraft 2.

But yeah, I'm glad they've finally copped to the obvious solution to when you want to give someone a better chance of success without actually letting them exceed their normal capabilities being rolling multiple dice.  I have to roll my eyes a bit since the underlying mechanical concept is just a weak version of every non-d20 system ever, but it  does make 5E play a lot easier and solves a lot of the previous editions' problems balancing flexibility against balance.

// Attacks of opportunity only became "threatened square" in 3.5, iirc, I think it was 'threatened space' in 3.0, e.g. if you passed in reach of a weapon and weren't actually engaging the wielder, they could get a swipe in.  You can sort of tell by how damned awkward and overly complex the descriptions of how to determine them using a grid got.
 
2014-07-08 12:27:43 PM  

lelio: Little Bow Wow was in a FF movie? I best that casting agent hasn't worked since.


He played an annoying kid whose only talent was that he was well connected. The casting was perfect
 
2014-07-08 12:36:24 PM  

Witty_Retort: LoR75: Han is the best thing about that movie, and every sequel he's been a part of.

Hopefully Han has a few scenes in the next one.

[notsureifserious.jpg]

Marshmallow Jones: Always figured he was a closeted dork

He's been an admitted dork since before XXX came out. The tat on his stomach in the movie is his old barbarian character.

thecpt: I love this franchise,

High five

oddly enough I'm ostracized by fellow f&f for saying TD is my favorite

/uncomfortably puts hand down
//only thing worse would be saying DX2 was your favorite in the series


Sure.  Han in flashbacks would work.  I'll take that.  I've already seen the leaked scene where "they're being hunted".

I know he's not even in the credits on IMDB but still.
 
2014-07-08 07:56:00 PM  

thecpt: lelio: Little Bow Wow was in a FF movie? I best that casting agent hasn't worked since.

He played an annoying kid whose only talent was that he was well connected. The casting was perfect


Little Bow Wow trolled us.  He's actually the greatest method actor of all time.  His entire life must have been a build up to getting that role.
 
2014-07-08 11:14:47 PM  

Langston: Diesel is one of those guys who's hard to read. The Rock seems like a gentle, funny guy when the cameras are off. I could just as easily see Diesel gushing about his D&D figurines or screaming at the guy who's taking too long on the squat rack at the gym. He really seems to like getting roles as a badass: Dominic, Riddick, Xander, Taylor Reese, and I'm wondering if he's stuck in the typecast or if he just prefers those acting roles.


Which would you rather do if you were him? Geek out about that stuff, or play those roles?
 
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