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(KHOU Houston)   Neighbors outraged when house gifted to foster family is sold to rehab facility. Rehab admin reassures neighbors that only 'high net worth' individuals will be housed there, much better than foster kids, right?   ( khou.com) divider line
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2014-07-06 09:58:36 AM  
"The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.
 
2014-07-06 10:32:41 AM  
Maybe there will be lots of celebrities and politicians rehabbing there.
 
2014-07-06 10:33:22 AM  
One of the mansions in a snotty community near here got converted into an elderly assistance home. Naturally, the whole neighborhood lost their minds. They fought the good fight, but the town commissioners didn't want to look like dicks.
 
2014-07-06 10:33:22 AM  
Bad news: Your property values are going down
Good News: Your property taxes might too
 
2014-07-06 10:35:27 AM  
I bet they all complained when extreme makeover fixed up the house and caused their property values to go up as well.

Don't like it, buy it yourself.
 
2014-07-06 10:35:28 AM  
$500,000?! Man, you can't even get a tiny 3 bedroom house for that price in London...

"Property value, it's gonna kill our property value"

Only if your selling. If you plan to live there forever then it doesn't make a difference.
 
2014-07-06 10:36:12 AM  
Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?
 
2014-07-06 10:36:35 AM  

brigid_fitch: "The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.


In Kemah, most property is mixed use. Some of their best restaurants and shops are in converted homes. That said, having a bed and breakfast next door would be preferable to having 14 drug-addled rich assholes there. I think there is a difference and the city really failed their property owners by not specifying. It will affect all aspects of business, because tourists are also not going to want to stay near a treatment facility. Hopefully they find a way to deny it.
 
2014-07-06 10:37:14 AM  
Rehab is a good cause, arguably a better cause than housing a single needy family. I guess the neighborhood wanted to do some good, but only so much and no more.

/NIMBY, you bastards
 
2014-07-06 10:37:14 AM  

Solty Dog: One of the mansions in a snotty community near here got converted into an elderly assistance home. Naturally, the whole neighborhood lost their minds. They fought the good fight, but the town commissioners didn't want to look like dicks.


Good! I hope it drives these snots up the wall every day.
 
2014-07-06 10:37:50 AM  

Rigby-Reardon: I bet they all complained when extreme makeover fixed up the house and caused their property values to go up as well.

Don't like it, buy it yourself.


Actually, the community was supportive of the effort though many wondered whether the family would be able to keep it.
 
2014-07-06 10:37:57 AM  
High net worth, like Affluenza Boy?

I'd rather take the poor kids.
 
2014-07-06 10:38:35 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?


Which kind of junkie rifles through your car for loose change and then rips out the stereo?
 
2014-07-06 10:38:51 AM  

weapon13: $500,000?! Man, you can't even get a tiny 3 bedroom house for that price in London...

"Property value, it's gonna kill our property value"

Only if your selling. If you plan to live there forever then it doesn't make a difference.


Land is plentiful and cheap in Texas. If that house hadn't been so close to the water it wouldn't have cost that much 😄
 
2014-07-06 10:40:45 AM  

Deedeemarz: Rigby-Reardon: I bet they all complained when extreme makeover fixed up the house and caused their property values to go up as well.

Don't like it, buy it yourself.

Actually, the community was supportive of the effort though many wondered whether the family would be able to keep it.


I'm surprised at the lack of outrage for the family that profitted off something that was gifted to them.
 
2014-07-06 10:40:53 AM  
Take one fresh crazy foster home.

Slice into bite-sized medallions.

Toss with festive spices such as nutmeg, cinnamon, allspice, and brown sugar.

Add rummies.

Ignite and let burn until slightlycaramelized.

Serve over waffles.

- Recipe for Bananas Foster Home
 
2014-07-06 10:41:08 AM  

namegoeshere: High net worth, like Affluenza Boy?

I'd rather take the poor kids.


This. The rich don't need breaks.
 
2014-07-06 10:42:39 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?


Ahem...rich junkies are called artists. Jerk.
 
2014-07-06 10:44:40 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: namegoeshere: High net worth, like Affluenza Boy?

I'd rather take the poor kids.

This. The rich don't need breaks.


Those are not rich people.
 
2014-07-06 10:45:10 AM  

JoieD'Zen: Deedeemarz: Rigby-Reardon: I bet they all complained when extreme makeover fixed up the house and caused their property values to go up as well.

Don't like it, buy it yourself.

Actually, the community was supportive of the effort though many wondered whether the family would be able to keep it.

I'm surprised at the lack of outrage for the family that profitted off something that was gifted to them.


Kemah isn't a big town, everyone knew they had a mess if foster kids and were trying to make a difference. The only real complaints were inconvenience due to the filming/construction. Otherwise, the community was in general supportive. Apparently everyone knew they couldn't afford to keep it long though.
 
2014-07-06 10:46:39 AM  

weapon13: $500,000?! Man, you can't even get a tiny 3 bedroom house for that price in London...

"Property value, it's gonna kill our property value"

Only if your selling. If you plan to live there forever then it doesn't make a difference.


Au contraire.  If you use a home-equity line of credit to finance your cars & other stuff, it does make a difference.
 
2014-07-06 10:47:23 AM  
High net worth junkies. Sounds like a good band name.
 
2014-07-06 10:48:02 AM  

SpdrJay: Maybe there will be lots of celebrities and politicians rehabbing there.


It's near Houston, so, no. They'll go to one in a better climate.
 
2014-07-06 10:48:53 AM  

Vtimlin: Fuggin Bizzy: namegoeshere: High net worth, like Affluenza Boy?

I'd rather take the poor kids.

This. The rich don't need breaks.

Those are not rich people.


"High net worth individuals" aren't rich? Who are you, Mitt Romney?
 
2014-07-06 10:49:21 AM  

brigid_fitch: If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.


My neighborhood in Austin was zoned to allow for drug dealers apparently. They had the most expensive house on the block, about twice the average value. Checking the zoning didn't help.

The FBI made the rich dealers move. But everyone referred to that house on the corner as the drug dealers house.
 
2014-07-06 10:50:07 AM  

Deedeemarz: JoieD'Zen: Deedeemarz: Rigby-Reardon: I bet they all complained when extreme makeover fixed up the house and caused their property values to go up as well.

Don't like it, buy it yourself.

Actually, the community was supportive of the effort though many wondered whether the family would be able to keep it.

I'm surprised at the lack of outrage for the family that profitted off something that was gifted to them.

Kemah isn't a big town, everyone knew they had a mess if foster kids and were trying to make a difference. The only real complaints were inconvenience due to the filming/construction. Otherwise, the community was in general supportive. Apparently everyone knew they couldn't afford to keep it long though.


That's pretty much true of all of these shows.  There's a big play for the cameras, a show of how amazing their new "home" is, and then shortly after they have to sell because they can't afford the taxes.  Happens all the time.
 
2014-07-06 10:54:20 AM  
I'll bet rich people don't like it when you take pictures of their drug addled kids suffering from affluenza.
 
2014-07-06 10:55:37 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?


Rich junkies are poor junkies that haven't run out of their own money yet.
 
2014-07-06 10:55:42 AM  

GizmoToy: Deedeemarz: JoieD'Zen: Deedeemarz: Rigby-Reardon: I bet they all complained when extreme makeover fixed up the house and caused their property values to go up as well.

Don't like it, buy it yourself.

Actually, the community was supportive of the effort though many wondered whether the family would be able to keep it.

I'm surprised at the lack of outrage for the family that profitted off something that was gifted to them.

Kemah isn't a big town, everyone knew they had a mess if foster kids and were trying to make a difference. The only real complaints were inconvenience due to the filming/construction. Otherwise, the community was in general supportive. Apparently everyone knew they couldn't afford to keep it long though.

That's pretty much true of all of these shows.  There's a big play for the cameras, a show of how amazing their new "home" is, and then shortly after they have to sell because they can't afford the taxes.  Happens all the time.


One would think that they would pay a few years' taxes as part of the gift, set up a trust to pay in perpetuity or something. But then again it wasn't to really help folks just make a tv show.
 
2014-07-06 10:56:20 AM  

brigid_fitch: "The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.


I have two "Rehab" type houses on either side of me, two houses down for one and about seven for the other. I think that one is the "Good" house and the other one is the "Bad" house (I don't know this as a certainty but just by observation over a few years). I've never had a problem with either and they have even tried to improve the area by doing public place improvements like pulling weeds along the local schools fences that needed it (probably a 12 step type thing). Not all treatment facilities are bad. They may generate more traffic but that's more of an annoyance than anything else.
 
2014-07-06 10:56:30 AM  

nytmare: TV's Vinnie: Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?

Which kind of junkie rifles through your car for loose change and then rips out the stereo?


I really hate to admit it, but that's so farking true. I've done some pretty shiatty stuff while I was using but luckily never had to resort to that.
 
2014-07-06 10:58:57 AM  

VonSchmegalton: nytmare: TV's Vinnie: Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?

Which kind of junkie rifles through your car for loose change and then rips out the stereo?

I really hate to admit it, but that's so farking true. I've done some pretty shiatty stuff while I was using but luckily never had to resort to that.


So, only some back alley blowjobs?
 
2014-07-06 10:59:01 AM  

brigid_fitch: "The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.


A lot of those facilities get zoning leeway because they're a charity, its bullshiat most of the time since they are really a for profit charity but get the perks. Uncle had to fight the same thing in Florida and they had to move after dragging it through court for years, their residents breaking into nearby homes, numerous police calls, and 4 violent incidences.

Just because its expensive doesn't mean nice people will come there, it may just be spoiled brats who's parents can afford to get rid of their failure for a while.
 
2014-07-06 11:00:56 AM  

big pig peaches: VonSchmegalton: nytmare: TV's Vinnie: Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?

Which kind of junkie rifles through your car for loose change and then rips out the stereo?

I really hate to admit it, but that's so farking true. I've done some pretty shiatty stuff while I was using but luckily never had to resort to that.

So, only some back alley blowjobs?


It's an honest trade.
 
2014-07-06 11:02:23 AM  

brigid_fitch: "The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.


For the most part, there's no zoning in TX - you can have commercial right next to residential.

/ relatives live in TX
 
2014-07-06 11:07:12 AM  

nytmare: TV's Vinnie: Because rich junkies are better than poor junkies?

Which kind of junkie rifles through your car for loose change and then rips out the stereo?


Ask Lindsay Lohan. She shoplifts "just 'cuz".
 
2014-07-06 11:07:28 AM  
Yes subby, 14 non-criminal addicts going through rehab is better than "scores of foster children" any day.  These people are nuts.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-06 11:11:26 AM  
brigid_fitch

A town near me tried to keep a rehab facility out with zoning restrictions and had to pay $1 million to settle a lawsuit. Limiting drug rehab facilities can be illegal discrimination against people with the disability of drug addiction. (Keywords: Framingham SMOC.)
 
2014-07-06 11:12:41 AM  

nanim: brigid_fitch: "The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.

For the most part, there's no zoning in TX - you can have commercial right next to residential.

/ relatives live in TX


I'm not sure what you're talking about. There's zoning all over the place, at least in cities. Commercial, residential, and industrial are all quite separate. Off the top of my head, I can't think of an non-zoned area in all of Austin.
 
2014-07-06 11:17:47 AM  

nanim: brigid_fitch: "The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.

For the most part, there's no zoning in TX - you can have commercial right next to residential.

/ relatives live in TX


In the rural areas, perhaps, but not in the cities. It is actually pretty hard to make generalizations about Texas since it is so large an diverse. Look at the election results maps. All the rural counties are red and the cities are blue.
 
2014-07-06 11:36:24 AM  

Solty Dog: One of the mansions in a snotty community near here got converted into an elderly assistance home. Naturally, the whole neighborhood lost their minds. They fought the good fight, but the town commissioners didn't want to look like dicks.


We have had a house next door that does elderly assistance for a long time.  It's never been an issue.

Drug rehab, though--I don't want one of those around.
 
2014-07-06 11:40:23 AM  
Before I even read the article, I looked at the picture and thought that the yearly property taxes on the place were going to be enormous.

It might be a great thing to gift a magnificent home to a moderate to low income family, but after all of the publicity ends, they have to contend with the taxes, which often make the place unaffordable.

Like, decades ago, when game shows were hitting their stride and people were all enthused and excited about people on TV winning cars, entire new sets of kitchen appliances, tons of new furniture and things like that. What they didn't know was that behind the scenes, the 'winners' often declined to accept the prizes when they found out they had to pay the taxes.

Much later, some game shows started covering the taxes on prizes won -- probably because the viewers learned that those fabulous wins turned out to be pretty much of a liability.

Of course, nothing can beat the folks from NO right after the hurricane devastated the place. A family was given a new home by a church, and it was a fine place. The media covered them getting it and they looked kinda worn as most of the refugees did.

A couple of weeks later, they made the news again -- putting the house up for sale, having never lived in it. They showed up looking much different in a new van, claiming they didn't like the neighborhood, -- too many white folks I suspect --, that the house was legally theirs and they had a right to do as they pleased. They had found another house in another area and lived there.

When it was suggested that they give the house back to the church, some mouthy old man bounced out of their van and pointed out that they had a right to do as they pleased with 'their' house.

I used to think these shows where folks go make over shiatty homes for low income folks for free were fantastic -- until it dawned on me that as soon as they finished, the local tax adjuster would be there and jack up their property taxes. A lot!

I started understanding why This Old House switched from turning cheap old wrecks into wonderful places and started concentrating on the homes of the upper middle class to lower upper class.

They could afford the tax jump afterwards.

It kind of dawned on me after one show where they hand built a solid copper overhang and hand sculpted solid copper rain gutters.

At least the home owners had to foot the bill, not the show.

I don't know which is worse, having a nice looking rehab center in the neighborhood, or, as they did here, ripping out 50 acres of nice, old growth pine forest and decades old citrus groves to slap in a couple of high end housing communities.

That raised property taxes for everyone for blocks around. It also tripled the amount of traffic.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-06 11:49:07 AM  
Houston is known for its lack of zoning. I don't know about the rest of Texas. That plant that blew up last year in West, Texas (which is in East Texas) was closer to houses than might have been desirable in hindsight.
 
2014-07-06 11:49:55 AM  

brigid_fitch: "The Beaches recently sold the eight-bedroom home for $500,000 to a drug rehab facility. Neighbors said that's not fair. "

If your neighborhood is zoned to allow a treatment facility, too bad.  Should have checked the zoning before you bought a house there.


Allow?

Welcome to ADA and FHA.  This is something that CA, VA and FL have been dealing with for quite a while.  There are very minimal protections to homeowners if a Recovery house / Halfway House opens next to you.  The caveat is that they can do no Medical treatment there.  Ok.. so it's sleep and taking meds only.  File with the state for Multiple Family Dwelling (so you can get more beds per room) pay the Fire Inspector and some other City inspection, and you're good to go!

Average insurance payout for Recovery Kid is $20K.  30 day average stay.  Stack em up like cord-wood and you're good.
 
2014-07-06 11:53:40 AM  

ZAZ: brigid_fitch

A town near me tried to keep a rehab facility out with zoning restrictions and had to pay $1 million to settle a lawsuit. Limiting drug rehab facilities can be illegal discrimination against people with the disability of drug addiction. (Keywords: Framingham SMOC.)



I had to check your profile.  Ours (Boca Raton) tried to do the same thing to the Caron Foundation.  Cost the City about the same amount.  Million two, something like that.

Going up against the ADA and FHA means you are spinning your wheels.
 
2014-07-06 11:53:59 AM  

Loren: Drug rehab, though--I don't want one of those around.


As I said above, they aren't all bad. I think that it's more an issue of bad management than anything else. The ones around me clamp down pretty hard, crew cut haircuts, no personal vehicles, long work hours type of things. They foster personal responsibility over personal wants. More of a boot camp about being a good person more than anything else. It seems to work and every interaction I've had with them (I think that they are not allowed to interact unless it's started by an "Outsider") has been positive.
 
2014-07-06 11:58:31 AM  
Martin Mull-"it's Pre-hab".
 
2014-07-06 11:58:51 AM  
"High Net Worth Individuals", in other words, Elites. Special pampered pricks who have always gotten their way.
I'm sure Houston will be fine, it's not like Jeffrey Dahmers are going to go there.
 
2014-07-06 12:08:34 PM  
And for years I've been trying to establish a Home for Unwed Nymphomaniacs in my neighborhood.
I had a good business plan that included volunteers to watch the women overnight at no cost to me.
Seems that the neighborhood women just don't care for the idea.
 
2014-07-06 12:12:30 PM  
$20,000/month x 14 = $280,000/year or $3.36 million/year assuming 100% occupancy.  Probably more like $2.5 million/year.   I need to get in the drug rehab business.   I wonder when Justin Bieber will be there?

That being sad, I think I'd have some big motion detector lights in my back yard if I backed up to that along with security cameras.   Every time a chipmunk or squirrel wanders past it might upset their chi or whatever they are claiming.
 
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