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2014-07-06 03:06:24 AM
""It's restricting women's health"

No, actually it is not. It is like the 'book bannings' the ALA talks about all the time. Sure some place won't pay for plan B, but it is still sold in the pharmacies. If you want it you just have to pay for it. You know like last year.
 
2014-07-06 04:28:58 AM
Not to thread jack, but I gotta say: Rancho Cucamonga's fun to say
/after Jeff Dunham's character Peanut's pronunciation of Santa Anna
 
2014-07-06 05:38:41 AM
The insurance Hobby Lobby provided to their employees before the ACA was enacted paid for Plan B and other so-called "Abortion Drugs". This is just an attempt to weaken the ACA in the name of religious freedom, and it's bullshiate.
 
2014-07-06 07:03:25 AM

feckingmorons: ""It's restricting women's health"

No, actually it is not. It is like the 'book bannings' the ALA talks about all the time. Sure some place won't pay for plan B, but it is still sold in the pharmacies. If you want it you just have to pay for it. You know like last year.


Last year Hobby Lobby paid for it and invested the company pension in companies that made said products.

They're restricting employee access to items that up until now almost every other company that offered health insurance offered as part of their benefits package.

But Viagra and vasectomies are apparently still OK.
 
2014-07-06 08:10:22 AM
A least they went out and did SOMETHING, rather just whining about it on the Internet.
 
2014-07-06 08:33:29 AM
Sounds a long way from the Supreme Court.  But I don't think they'd listen, either.
 
2014-07-06 08:46:39 AM
It was a crap decision. I'd hope there would be a few protesters out.

Alaskan Yoda: Not to thread jack, but I gotta say: Rancho Cucamonga's fun to say


Agreed. First time I heard that name I thought someone was pulling my leg and just making shiat up. Felt much the same way the first time I heard of Lake Titicaca as well.
 
2014-07-06 08:47:16 AM

Ennuipoet: A least they went out and did SOMETHING, rather just whining about it on the Internet.


I hate to say this, but if they should have a gripe with anyone in this situation, it should be SCOTUS, not Hobby Lobby.

Right now, they're probably just screaming at some receptionist who has nothing to do with anything.
 
2014-07-06 08:48:16 AM
Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.
 
2014-07-06 08:56:36 AM
Dear Subby:

The purpose of a protest is publicity, not to change anyone's mind on the spot.

You may think your snarky headline was diminishing their efforts, but what you really did was give many thousands of users exposure to what they were doing, in the end helping them much more than if you hadn't posted anything about them at all.
 
2014-07-06 09:00:26 AM

Ennuipoet: A least they went out and did SOMETHING, rather just whining about it on the Internet.


Came in to say eggsackley that. At least they went out there.
 
2014-07-06 09:02:16 AM
Protesters waste a warm California summercloudy Washington spring day protesting outside a Hobby Lobby in Cucamongaa White House under siege, dissuading nobodybickering amongst each other about which of them were the CIA plants ready to tranquilize the true patriots and drag them off to the FEMA death camps

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2014-07-06 09:08:55 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.


I'm not really sure what you're on about? Class traitor?
 
2014-07-06 09:10:40 AM

dookdookdook: Protesters waste a warm California summercloudy Washington spring day protesting outside a Hobby Lobby in Cucamongaa White House under siege, dissuading nobodybickering amongst each other about which of them were the CIA plants ready to tranquilize the true patriots and drag them off to the FEMA death camps

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Thread over.
 
2014-07-06 09:11:44 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.


Do you ever have a point?
 
2014-07-06 09:14:32 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.


Most of her wealth is inherited from her late husband who was one of the top tax lawyers in DC. But it is easy to throw mud isn't it?
 
2014-07-06 09:14:38 AM

feckingmorons: No, actually it is not. It is like the 'book bannings' the ALA talks about all the time. Sure some place won't pay for plan B, but it is still sold in the pharmacies. If you want it you just have to pay for it. You know like last year.


And it not being covered by insurance is a barrier. What you're saying is the people least able to afford children, the dirt poor, are the ones who should have fewer options to prevent pregnancy.
 
2014-07-06 09:14:51 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: bunch of random crap that has nothing to do with anything but is apparently supposed to make us hate one of the finest judicial minds alive today...


i1.cpcache.com
 
2014-07-06 09:17:03 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.


I think you're in the wrong thread, homeboy.
 
2014-07-06 09:17:23 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-06 09:17:25 AM

ginandbacon: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: bunch of random crap that has nothing to do with anything but is apparently supposed to make us hate one of the finest judicial minds alive today...

[i1.cpcache.com image 250x250]


You down with RBG?

/Aw, you know me.
 
2014-07-06 09:21:26 AM

quatchi: ginandbacon: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: bunch of random crap that has nothing to do with anything but is apparently supposed to make us hate one of the finest judicial minds alive today...

[i1.cpcache.com image 250x250]

You down with RBG?

/Aw, you know me.


Word.
 
2014-07-06 09:28:04 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.


Way to make absolutely no point whatsoever.
 
2014-07-06 09:29:42 AM

feckingmorons: ""It's restricting women's health"

No, actually it is not. It is like the 'book bannings' the ALA talks about all the time. Sure some place won't pay for plan B, but it is still sold in the pharmacies. If you want it you just have to pay for it. You know like last year.


Actually, it is restricting women's health.  If it was something that was affordable before, being covered by health insurance, but now it's not (don't have enough to cover the non-insured cost), I'd say that's pretty restricting.
 
2014-07-06 09:30:42 AM

Ennuipoet: A least they went out and did SOMETHING, rather just whining about it on the Internet.


If this were done with the intensity and constanct of Planned Parenthood protesters it could affect Hobby Lobby sales.
 
2014-07-06 09:40:04 AM

Totally Sharky Complete: [i.imgur.com image 502x229]


Hmm, awkward, bald, and the metallic, dead eyes of a suicidal android.

I'm sure his rampant misogyny is due to deeply held religious beliefs and not at all to a lifetime of resentment towards the hundreds of women who wouldn't touch him.

pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-07-06 09:42:15 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.


people.virginia.edu
people.virginia.edu

That was stupid. And for you, that's saying something.
 
2014-07-06 09:45:32 AM

Ennuipoet: A least they went out and did SOMETHING, rather just whining about it on the Internet.


Whining on the internet would probably be more effective.

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.


Do you believe she says girls should be poor or something?

In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million.

How do  you average a person's net worth?  You take the mean of two wild guesses?
 
2014-07-06 09:47:35 AM

Ennuipoet: A least they went out and did SOMETHING, rather just whining about it on the Internet.


Yeah, because out there I won't hear them. I wish everybody with a gripe about things that are none of their business would follow their example.
 
2014-07-06 09:48:38 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.


All of which has exactly NOTHING to do with the patently absurd notion that fictional characters have a right to free exercise of religion under the First Amendment.
 
2014-07-06 09:50:28 AM

Totally Sharky Complete: [i.imgur.com image 502x229]


More like:
"Get your politics out of my bedroom!"
"Not a problem.  I'm just going to grab your paycheck before I leave."

Hobby Lobby says that if they are required to pay their employees in insurance that the employees might spend on something they consider a sin, then Hobby Lobby itself has committed that same sin.
How does that logic not just as well fit with the wages part of the employees paycheck?
 
2014-07-06 09:51:06 AM

MFAWG: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.

I'm not really sure what you're on about? Class traitor?


Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.


Is this a sneak preview of the upcoming week's talking points? I hope you got a job lined up after the Heritage internship ends in August.
 
2014-07-06 09:51:23 AM
stan unusual:All of which has exactly NOTHING to do with the patently absurd notion that fictional characters have a right to free exercise of religion under the First Amendment.

Bullocks! If businesses and corporations as a whole can be people under the constitution, why do you hate Jesus, Muhammad and Buddah?

Next you'll be telling me fetii aren't people and don't have feelings. Libtards always flip out when you tell them THE TRUTH!
 
2014-07-06 09:53:12 AM
Maybe Subby should be out knocking on GM's door preaching the Gospel to the General and trying to get him to join his church.  Let us all know when he shows up there to be baptized, we'd love to see the pictures.
 
2014-07-06 09:54:09 AM

stan unusual: All of which has exactly NOTHING to do with the patently absurd notion that fictional characters have a right to free exercise of religion under the First Amendment.


The owners are fictional characters?
 
2014-07-06 09:55:10 AM

stan unusual: Maybe Subby should be out knocking on GM's door preaching the Gospel to the General and trying to get him to join his church.  Let us all know when he shows up there to be baptized, we'd love to see the pictures.


Don't worry. They're patient.

www.thereheis.com
 
2014-07-06 09:56:49 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_sit-ins

/That was over 50 years ago.  It took another four years for the Civil Rights Act to be passed, but it was a start.
//Granted, that was upheld by a unanimous Supreme Court ruling (Heart of Atlanta v. U.S.), and some people still haven't changed their minds about wanting businesses to have the "freedom" to discriminate. . .
 
2014-07-06 09:58:20 AM
hardinparamedic:[people.virginia.edu image 500x75]
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Neither of those have anything to do with what he wrote.

His post is more "She's ugly and rich, therefore...???", which is either ad hominem (if he actually had a point) or just plain childish namecalling.

/Personal pet peeve: People spouting off random latin fallacy names and acting like it's an automatic Win-The-Argument card.
 
2014-07-06 10:00:00 AM

dookdookdook: Neither of those have anything to do with what he wrote.

His post is more "She's ugly and rich, therefore...???", which is either ad hominem (if he actually had a point) or just plain childish namecalling.

/Personal pet peeve: People spouting off random latin fallacy names and acting like it's an automatic Win-The-Argument card.


cdn.niketalk.com

There never was an argument to win. It was an outright dismissal of something that at best was an attempt to poison the discussion by a drive-by threadshiatting right troll.
 
2014-07-06 10:04:51 AM
pbs.twimg.com

http://twitchy.com/2014/07/03/holly-fisher-makes-liberal-heads-explo de -with-hat-trick-photo-pic/


Libs calling this cute, god gun and pro life loving woman a whore and a slut etc.......what was that about the war on women?
 
2014-07-06 10:05:06 AM
The boomers will die. The electorate's mean age will drop by fifteen years. They will elect better leaders, who will appoint better judges. This, and the whole string of shiatty Reagan/Bush Court rulings,  will be reversed. It's happened before, and will happen again.
Dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
 
2014-07-06 10:12:04 AM

Giltric: Libs calling this cute, god gun and pro life loving woman a whore and a slut etc.......what was that about the war on women?


And then you have Giltrec, who is more concerned with the way the woman looks than the unintended and far-reaching consequences that this woman supports.

She's not wrong because she's a woman. She's wrong because she's a troll.

dilbert.com
 
2014-07-06 10:20:39 AM
Same rule for companies in organized crime and human trafficking applies to Hobby Lobby. If the management is mean and degrading to its employees, it's ultimately mean and degrading to its customers.
 
2014-07-06 10:21:53 AM

LeoffDaGrate: feckingmorons: ""It's restricting women's health"

No, actually it is not. It is like the 'book bannings' the ALA talks about all the time. Sure some place won't pay for plan B, but it is still sold in the pharmacies. If you want it you just have to pay for it. You know like last year.

Actually, it is restricting women's health.  If it was something that was affordable before, being covered by health insurance, but now it's not (don't have enough to cover the non-insured cost), I'd say that's pretty restricting.


How often is one taking the morning after pill that it isn't affordable?   Okay if it is the poor everyone is concerned about on this issue, make sure the pill is provided free to those on medicaid or making less than xx$$ a year. there is zero restriction for the average woman getting this pill due to the SCOTUS ruling. 

The ACA is poorly written and overreaching.  it restricts men to having to buy insurance that covers reproductive health of a woman which causes the policy to either be overpriced or excluding additional coverages for men.

I don't like the SCOTUS call based on the corporate religious angle but I do like the ruling as I hope it forces another look and hopefully improvements to the ACA.
 
2014-07-06 10:24:21 AM

MFAWG: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Do as I say,not as I do..girls.

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Ruth Bader Ginsburg - $28 million - The second female justice in the Court's 222-year history, Ginsburg is also the current court's wealthiest by a long shot. And she's only getting wealthier. In 2008, Ginsburg's net worth was between $7.2 million and $29.5 million, an average of $18.3 million. By 2009, her wealth had increased by about 50 percent, putting her worth somewhere between $10.7 million and $45.4 million that year. Among her assets she counts a hefty TIAA-CREF retirement account worth at least $6 million.

I'm not really sure what you're on about? Class traitor?


Yeah, I'm confused too. Ginsburg is one of the more liberal judges on the court and, apparently, the wealthiest. Shouldn't she be a shining example of rich people will voluntarily try to do better if we give them more money?
 
2014-07-06 10:24:22 AM

Waldo Pepper: make sure the pill is provided free to those on medicaid


In many states it is impossible to get on medicaid based on income alone - or lack there-of. Tennessee refused to expand medicaid to the poor, and have been cutting people who meet medical necessity for years. In addition, this would fall under various state Hyde Amendments for medicaid funding.
 
2014-07-06 10:26:11 AM

Waldo Pepper: The ACA is poorly written and overreaching. it restricts men to having to buy insurance that covers reproductive health of a woman which causes the policy to either be overpriced or excluding additional coverages for men.


Or you can assume that the people who wrote up those rules and plans aren't complete farking morons and it's more of a matter of "insurance plans must cover gender-specific issues such as ovaries or prostates, but we're just going to make up one price and you pick whichever applies to you personally."
 
2014-07-06 10:30:55 AM

hardinparamedic: Waldo Pepper: make sure the pill is provided free to those on medicaid

In many states it is impossible to get on medicaid based on income alone - or lack there-of. Tennessee refused to expand medicaid to the poor, and have been cutting people who meet medical necessity for years. In addition, this would fall under various state Hyde Amendments for medicaid funding.


then let the federal gov't put pressure on the company to provide these pills as cheaply as most blood pressure medicine.

somewhere along the line I think this fight for "women's reproductive health" as turned into a gold mine for the vendors involved. Requiring the insurance companies to have to provide the coverage might just keep the cost of the pills higher than normal.
 
2014-07-06 10:32:51 AM
Cucacomonga? Did they protest at the stores in Anaheim and Azusa too?

/pretty sure it's obscure...
 
2014-07-06 10:34:29 AM
it restricts men to having to buy insurance that covers reproductive health of a woman which causes the policy to either be overpriced or excluding additional coverages for men

i really don't get how it is possible to have this fundamental of a misunderstanding as to how insurance operates
 
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