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(Japan Times)   Japanese railway unveils next-generation Tokyo commuter train design, featuring LED lighting, more space for strollers and wheelchairs, and 100%-digital advertising on 20" LCD screens   (japantimes.co.jp) divider line 27
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2014-07-05 11:00:53 PM  
I'm confused. Where do the feces-coated vagrants sit to can best scent the entire car with urine and MD 20/20 farts?
 
2014-07-06 01:33:16 AM  
Damn socialists!
 
2014-07-06 08:28:14 AM  
This sounds like more of a Shelbyville idea.
 
2014-07-06 08:47:12 AM  
Are there separate groping and no-groping sections?

Do you still need workers that help push the passengers into the train car or has that been automated?

Does the train have a cattle bumper for all the suicide kids?

/never been to Japan
//just seen things on the internet
///seems like a nice place to visit
 
2014-07-06 09:03:25 AM  
Just got back from Japan and no doubt there are some things that are odd but practical (Toto toilet with heat warming seats and bidet, with odor cleansing), I will say their railway system is awesome. Great way to travel the country.
 
2014-07-06 09:12:57 AM  

Notabunny: I'm confused. Where do the feces-coated vagrants sit to can best scent the entire car with urine and MD 20/20 farts?


Honestly, wherever they want. But Japanese homeless rarely find a bottle Mad Dog. They go for the Ozeki One Cup.

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2014-07-06 09:17:06 AM  
Also, many of the cars already have the handicap/stroller space in them and no one uses it. All this is gonna do is remove 10% of the seating and paint the floor used tampon red. Typical Japanese bureaucracy idea.
 
2014-07-06 09:49:39 AM  

McGrits: /never been to Japan
//just seen things on the internet

I lived in Japan for two years.  I'm equally baffled by the Japan that Farkers read about.
 
2014-07-06 10:04:20 AM  

dragonchild: McGrits: /never been to Japan
//just seen things on the internet
I lived in Japan for two years.  I'm equally baffled by the Japan that Farkers read about.


I was in Japan in 1990 during a port visit to Sasebo.  A friend and I took the tour to Nagasaki and also wandered the cities.  Japan and her people are wonderful.  It's a shame we spent just a few days there compared to the usual 7 days in other ports.
 
2014-07-06 10:54:50 AM  
I ride the bus to work, which means at least once a trip we get delayed while some moron tries to maneuver a stroller the size of a small SUV onto the bus, slamming it repeatedly into every door, seat, leg, or post they can find. Then they just leave the damned things in the middle of the aisle, and expect the rest of the world to figure out a way around their gigantic land yacht with a child in it. Damn, I really hate people who bring strollers on public transit.
 
2014-07-06 12:35:58 PM  

The Larch: I ride the bus to work, which means at least once a trip we get delayed while some moron tries to maneuver a stroller the size of a small SUV onto the bus, slamming it repeatedly into every door, seat, leg, or post they can find. Then they just leave the damned things in the middle of the aisle, and expect the rest of the world to figure out a way around their gigantic land yacht with a child in it. Damn, I really hate people who bring strollers on public transit.


Don't breed then.
 
2014-07-06 12:37:38 PM  
I haven't been on a Japanese train in 22 years. Sure I miss the good old JR.
 
2014-07-06 12:49:25 PM  

The Larch: I ride the bus to work, which means at least once a trip we get delayed while some moron tries to maneuver a stroller the size of a small SUV onto the bus, slamming it repeatedly into every door, seat, leg, or post they can find. Then they just leave the damned things in the middle of the aisle, and expect the rest of the world to figure out a way around their gigantic land yacht with a child in it. Damn, I really hate people who bring strollers on public transit.


Many buses now have hooks on the front where they can hang their baby stroller while the mom rides.
 
2014-07-06 12:58:49 PM  

LegacyDL: Just got back from Japan and no doubt there are some things that are odd but practical (Toto toilet with heat warming seats and bidet, with odor cleansing), I will say their railway system is awesome. Great way to travel the country.


The more I travel, the more I actually start to think *we're* the odd ones.

/ Washlet toilets are farking awesome.
 
2014-07-06 01:00:57 PM  

doglover: Also, many of the cars already have the handicap/stroller space in them and no one uses it. All this is gonna do is remove 10% of the seating and paint the floor used tampon red. Typical Japanese bureaucracy idea.


I've seen wheelchairs there plenty on the Yamanote. I think it's a good idea for strollers. Common etiquette now is to collapse them and carry the child, which people will do sometimes even if there is ample room. In a country with declining birthrate that could use things being a bit easier on mothers, I'm fine with it. Plus, more people will just pack in the space if there's no one who actually needs it anyway.
 
2014-07-06 01:08:20 PM  

Gary-L: dragonchild: McGrits: /never been to Japan
//just seen things on the internet
I lived in Japan for two years.  I'm equally baffled by the Japan that Farkers read about.

I was in Japan in 1990 during a port visit to Sasebo.  A friend and I took the tour to Nagasaki and also wandered the cities.  Japan and her people are wonderful.  It's a shame we spent just a few days there compared to the usual 7 days in other ports.


Probably better than the last time Americans visited Nagasaki
 
2014-07-06 01:17:17 PM  
What the Yamanote line needs is more cars per train or a faster shedule. However, both are not possible. Just replace the damn line with a conveyor belt moving at 50 mph and figure out a system to get people on and off.
 
2014-07-06 01:28:28 PM  

angstycoder: LegacyDL: Just got back from Japan and no doubt there are some things that are odd but practical (Toto toilet with heat warming seats and bidet, with odor cleansing), I will say their railway system is awesome. Great way to travel the country.

The more I travel, the more I actually start to think *we're* the odd ones.

/ Washlet toilets are farking awesome.


We are.  Compared to the many Asian countries (and Australia) I visited while in the Navy, our transportation infrastructure is primitive compared to Asia and Europe.  But try explaining that to 'Murricans is like reading stereo instructions to a cat.
 
2014-07-06 02:35:57 PM  
mmmm  lesbian train groping
 
2014-07-06 03:50:01 PM  

The Larch: I ride the bus to work, which means at least once a trip we get delayed while some moron tries to maneuver a stroller the size of a small SUV onto the bus, slamming it repeatedly into every door, seat, leg, or post they can find. Then they just leave the damned things in the middle of the aisle, and expect the rest of the world to figure out a way around their gigantic land yacht with a child in it. Damn, I really hate people who bring strollers on public transit.


When I was a kid, my parents had a stroller (actually several of them, over the course of two children) which folded up like an umbrella.  My mom could fold it up and hold it between her knees and still balance a baby on her lap.
 
2014-07-06 04:05:30 PM  
Baby strollers today are utterly massive land yachts. You don't realize until you're confronted with them. Japan probably has smaller cars than the larger US strollers.
 
2014-07-06 04:41:26 PM  

Gary-L: dragonchild: McGrits: /never been to Japan
//just seen things on the internet
I lived in Japan for two years.  I'm equally baffled by the Japan that Farkers read about.

I was in Japan in 1990 during a port visit to Sasebo.  A friend and I took the tour to Nagasaki and also wandered the cities.  Japan and her people are wonderful.  It's a shame we spent just a few days there compared to the usual 7 days in other ports.


I was fortunate enough to be able to go to Tokyo & Osaka, about 5 weeks spread over two trips. I loved it. Clean,  beautiful, just amazing.
 
2014-07-06 05:09:46 PM  

Kevin72: I haven't been on a Japanese train in 22 years. Sure I miss the good old JR.


When you can quite literally set your watch by the trains in Japan, it really is hard as hell going back to the "it'll be there when it gets there" attitude that is most of the US's public transit...
 
2014-07-06 06:23:17 PM  

lucksi: What the Yamanote line needs is more cars per train or a faster shedule.


I don't know about that. Of all the trains in all the rails, the Yamanote is the one I'm almost never crowded on.

You want crowded, try taking the Oedo line across Tokyo at rush hour. That's a pain in the ass. You can't even breathe.
 
2014-07-06 10:07:15 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: The Larch: I ride the bus to work, which means at least once a trip we get delayed while some moron tries to maneuver a stroller the size of a small SUV onto the bus, slamming it repeatedly into every door, seat, leg, or post they can find. Then they just leave the damned things in the middle of the aisle, and expect the rest of the world to figure out a way around their gigantic land yacht with a child in it. Damn, I really hate people who bring strollers on public transit.

When I was a kid, my parents had a stroller (actually several of them, over the course of two children) which folded up like an umbrella.  My mom could fold it up and hold it between her knees and still balance a baby on her lap.


I went to state fair last year,  giant sport utility strollers everywhere, of course packed with toys and a giant hockey duffel sized diaper bag crammed underneath.  You do not need to bring your child's entire bedroom with you everywhere you go. And what's worse,  half the time the kid was just walking alongside. It was super crowded and the giant strollers weren't helping, I actually let one of the aforementioned empty ones run into me and I accidentally on purpose knocked it over...  By the end of the day I was to the point of thanking people saw with umbrella strollers.
 
2014-07-07 10:57:42 AM  

Cyno01: Dwight_Yeast: The Larch: I ride the bus to work, which means at least once a trip we get delayed while some moron tries to maneuver a stroller the size of a small SUV onto the bus, slamming it repeatedly into every door, seat, leg, or post they can find. Then they just leave the damned things in the middle of the aisle, and expect the rest of the world to figure out a way around their gigantic land yacht with a child in it. Damn, I really hate people who bring strollers on public transit.

When I was a kid, my parents had a stroller (actually several of them, over the course of two children) which folded up like an umbrella.  My mom could fold it up and hold it between her knees and still balance a baby on her lap.

I went to state fair last year,  giant sport utility strollers everywhere, of course packed with toys and a giant hockey duffel sized diaper bag crammed underneath.  You do not need to bring your child's entire bedroom with you everywhere you go. And what's worse,  half the time the kid was just walking alongside. It was super crowded and the giant strollers weren't helping, I actually let one of the aforementioned empty ones run into me and I accidentally on purpose knocked it over...  By the end of the day I was to the point of thanking people saw with umbrella strollers.


As a parent who has had one of those big strollers -

1. It's not just packed with things for the kid. It will also have my stuff or my wifes, and later on our other child's stuff.
2. You obviously haven't ever had a kid, because the way they work is they run much faster and harder than the parents, and then pass out. Carrying a 3 year old at the end of the day is a super pain in the ass, whereas those big strollers handle it perfectly.
3. "accidentally on purpose knocked it over " - You're an asshole. Do you knock over old people because they are slow?
 
2014-07-07 12:23:55 PM  
When I lived in Japan ('82) crowding was never an issue;  no matter how stuffed the car was, there was always a 3-foot clear zone around me, as the natives didn't want to stand next to a stinking "hakujin."
 
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