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2014-07-05 11:05:12 PM  
14 votes:
This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.
2014-07-05 10:54:42 PM  
5 votes:
when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.
2014-07-05 11:03:10 PM  
4 votes:
I've been interviewing quite a lot of recent grads at my new job.   We've had some alarming interviews with recent grads who farking REEK of alcohol during the interview.  They clearly can't smell it, and since they're young they don't look hungover, but Jesus Christ I've worked with functioning alcoholics who manage to come to work each day smelling better than these kids.  Here's a protip: don't go out drinking the night before an interview.  You can go out drinking right after the interview, just stay dry for 24 hours before the interview.  Women or men - they'll try to cover it up with Axe or perfume but that sour alcohol smell is still there.

We've also had people who come from areas of the world where deodorant or perfume isn't commonly used. My advice? Learn to use it at least for the interview.  We sat through a horrific 60 minutes with a woman who was very attractive, very qualified, and who smelled like she hadn't washed herself in 16 days. It was a stink that lingered so strongly the next interview candidate felt the need to point out the smell wasn't coming from her.  I sympathized.  Four hours later I could still smell that woman in the room.  If Seinfeld hadn't done it first, it could have been a sitcom episode.
2014-07-06 06:10:32 AM  
3 votes:

nijika: Oh god Baby Boomers please stop with these.  I had to deal with this crap all through the Generation X mania years, do you have to do it to ANOTHER generation too?


It's bullshiat, too. These kids smell better than I did in the the summer of '67. A LOT better.

Actually, all intergenerational sniping is bullshiat. A "generation" is a perfect example of Vonnegut's "granfalloon".
2014-07-06 03:40:24 AM  
3 votes:
...and what about those Magic players?

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2014-07-06 11:15:12 AM  
2 votes:

NobleHam: Oh my God, four percent fewer consider deodorant essential, to say nothing of whether or not they use it anyway, than older people? Truly the entire generation is doomed.


Really, the conversation in this thread should be about how journalism is so shiatty.
2014-07-06 06:58:02 AM  
2 votes:
Keeping my children safe from harm is more important to me than eating lunch.

Headline - Have parents stopped eating?
2014-07-06 06:54:43 AM  
2 votes:

K3rmy: BlueDWarrior: quo vadimus: Perhaps millenials prefer antiperspirant?

If I had to choose between a deodorant and anti-perspirant, I'd consistently take the latter.

It is natural for your body to perspire.  Unless you are dripping when you do, use deodorant.  It is not fair to confuse your sweat glands.


Antiperspirants work by blocking the pores to stop the sweat from reaching the skin surface, some may also employ an astringent effect to reduce the size of pores to further aid in this. You do not need to worry about being unfair and/or confusing your sweat glands, they have zero awareness of what is going on.
2014-07-06 03:00:42 AM  
2 votes:

udhq: Lsherm: Fair enough, but why bother? Who thinks like this? Why would anyone interview for a $60K a year job smelling like booze, especially if you don't have any work experience?

There's your problem.  Who the ever-loving fark would bother going to college if they were willing to take a job for $60K?

/Unless you're in the middle of absolute BFE, freezing-cold nowhere.
//Or into non-profit work.


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That's a good salary for someone with no job experience at all.  Outside of NY or California, it's almost outstanding.
2014-07-06 02:05:16 AM  
2 votes:
Aren't showers more important than deodorant anyway? What a silly article.
2014-07-06 02:02:42 AM  
2 votes:

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


This would be a textbook example of how journalists intentionally f*ck up reporting scientific findings for the sake of circulation or, in this case, clicks. A weak and relatively irrelevant study about deodorant use becomes "Unemployable Generation Reek."

/inb4 "rhymes with meek"
2014-07-06 08:19:19 PM  
1 votes:

Witness99: So, humans really stink. You gotta wash your ass, every day. I always get a kick out of guys that brag about how much they love going down on women, the more "lady juice" the better. Do you have any idea what you're ingesting? Smelly bacteria, dead skin cells, the vagina's self cleansing system - mucous, funk, etc...yeah, super sexy. About as gross gag me (if not more so) than slurping down a guys bitter, salty, mucousy semen. But, whatever floats your boat.


You should eat more fruit.
2014-07-06 07:57:26 PM  
1 votes:
So, humans really stink. You gotta wash your ass, every day. I always get a kick out of guys that brag about how much they love going down on women, the more "lady juice" the better. Do you have any idea what you're ingesting? Smelly bacteria, dead skin cells, the vagina's self cleansing system - mucous, funk, etc...yeah, super sexy. About as gross gag me (if not more so) than slurping down a guys bitter, salty, mucousy semen. But, whatever floats your boat.
2014-07-06 11:33:05 AM  
1 votes:
I once worked at a summer camp, and one of my cabin mates neither showered nor did laundry. Oh, and he worked in the kitchen. One day, Shawn, the big, rough, and kinda mean lifeguard, called down to the kitchen: "Hey, we've got a big crowd for free swim. Is there anybody you can send up here to sit in the tower and watch the buddy board, so we can have more lifeguards out on the dock?" The kitchen staff leapt at the chance to send Stinky up to the waterfront. Of course, Shawn was lying- there was no crowd for free swim. When Stinky arrived, Shawn grabbed him, held him under water, and scrubbed him and his clothes down with laundry detergent.

When I was a teenager, it was hilarious. In retrospect, it's terribly cruel. Still, our cabin smelled better afterwards.
2014-07-06 10:40:56 AM  
1 votes:
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2014-07-06 09:51:18 AM  
1 votes:

big pig peaches: mafiageek1980: BlaqueKatt: 20-somethings calling themselves "international business developer*" or "entrepreneur" 90% of the time means they're part of an MLM, and possibly didn't finish college.  My partner's 24 year old sister is convinced if she keeps spending $150/month buying product that no one wants($70 for 24 cans, erm no thank you), she'll soon be making a 6 figure income, nevermind that the company's own financials show that 95% make less than minimum wage, and 75% lose money, nope she's "special". Because sleeping until noon and not working a job(just over broke) gives her plenty of time.....to watch netflix. so far she's at negative $1,500 or so.

*actually a term encouraged by an unscrupulous MLM CEO(think "healthy" energy drinks-it's got mangosteen, which is what plants want!) who targets ages 17-25 because they're too young to know many MLMs are product based pyramid schemes.

THIS. My sister AND brother in law fell for that shiat, as well as a few friends. I tried to warm them and straight up told them it was a pyramid sceme but noooo, they wont listen to me.

One of my first job "interviews" out of college was one of these. I was familiar with the term pyramid scheme and figured it out right away. One of their products was called "Liquid Chi" and was literally a gallon of water with about a pinch of sea salt added."


When I was 18, I applied for a job that promised $25 an hour (this is late 90s money too).

Turns out the company was CutCo and the job was going around trying to make your family feel sorry enough to buy some expensive knives. Admittedly, they are nice knives though. They aren't shiat.

As tempted as I was by their promises of making $25+ an hour, I could smell the bullshiat even then.
2014-07-06 08:59:04 AM  
1 votes:
Would people STFU about the "millennials" already? They're becoming almost as obnoxious as the Boomers, if that's even possible. At least us Gen Xers didn't give a fark and left everyone alone.
2014-07-06 08:55:42 AM  
1 votes:

eventhelosers: SAVE WATER! Self indulgent BOOMERS.


if you want to save water then fill a bucket of water and wet a rag, it's how most of the world bathes, you don't technically need a gallon of water to get a tiny bit of soap off your skin - tho it is nice
2014-07-06 08:39:01 AM  
1 votes:

some_beer_drinker: Lsherm: some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.

That's absolutely not true.  I've been poor and unemployed.  The first thing you skimp on is beer.

you clearly have your priorities very mixed up. when i was poor and unemployed i made my own beer, and sold the extra to my friends. never never give up on beer, or your life is over.


The world is a better place for your fark handle being more than just that.

In other news, a whole generation of women are out there who don`t care about YOUR personal hygene...

The game is changing and it looks like both sides are reducing the cost to the other for sex/relationship when compared to the old bargain which went something like this.

The old bargain went something like this

Woman "I put sex on the table"
Man "I also put sex on the table"
Woman "That`s not enough"
Man "Ok, I`ll also put dinner and some gifts on the table"
Woman "That`s not enough, I may catch something from you"
Man "Ok, I`ll also put not having sex with other people on the table"
Woman "That`s not enough, look I may get pregnant here. I may have to look after some kids until they fark off"
Man "Ok, I`ll also put looking after the kids on the table"
Woman "That`s not enough, me and the kids have to eat you know"
Man "Ok, I`ll put going out to work for 30 years until I have used up all my will to live on the table but I`ll not have the time to spend with you or the kids so much"
Woman "That`s looking like the right sort of deal, sign this contract. You may now kiss the bride."

New bargain

Woman "I put sex on the table"
Man "I also put sex on the table"
Woman "That seems good to me"
Man "Seems good to me too"

You may notice, in the new deal the woman does not have to make herself seem like this amazing, never to be repeated deal anymore, hence the reduced importance of personal hygiene. No need to be a domestic goddess or mother to all, she just has to be willing to accept the price of sex as being the gift of sex, which it should be in an equal world.

This also allows guys to be slackers working their one man business out of their moms basement instead of getting a proper job too.

So we have stinky women with a redesigned sexual contract and slackers with no pressure to `step up`

Sounds great. THIS is a future I can get behind.
2014-07-06 08:28:05 AM  
1 votes:

mafiageek1980: BlaqueKatt: 20-somethings calling themselves "international business developer*" or "entrepreneur" 90% of the time means they're part of an MLM, and possibly didn't finish college.  My partner's 24 year old sister is convinced if she keeps spending $150/month buying product that no one wants($70 for 24 cans, erm no thank you), she'll soon be making a 6 figure income, nevermind that the company's own financials show that 95% make less than minimum wage, and 75% lose money, nope she's "special". Because sleeping until noon and not working a job(just over broke) gives her plenty of time.....to watch netflix. so far she's at negative $1,500 or so.

*actually a term encouraged by an unscrupulous MLM CEO(think "healthy" energy drinks-it's got mangosteen, which is what plants want!) who targets ages 17-25 because they're too young to know many MLMs are product based pyramid schemes.

THIS. My sister AND brother in law fell for that shiat, as well as a few friends. I tried to warm them and straight up told them it was a pyramid sceme but noooo, they wont listen to me.


One of my first job "interviews" out of college was one of these. I was familiar with the term pyramid scheme and figured it out right away. One of their products was called "Liquid Chi" and was literally a gallon of water with about a pinch of sea salt added."
2014-07-06 07:16:01 AM  
1 votes:

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


Bank of America Trends in Consumer Mobility

Isn't it Bank of Americas job to shiat on people ?
2014-07-06 06:20:22 AM  
1 votes:
Oh hey man, I know I haven't showered in a couple days and this coffee has whiskey in it to put up with being told I'm nothing more than a Nintendo humping loser, but I still need that trophy for showing up today. Yea, the big one since I was only 14 minutes late today.
2014-07-06 05:12:27 AM  
1 votes:
Gen Stink?
2014-07-06 04:36:55 AM  
1 votes:

BlueDWarrior: quo vadimus: Perhaps millenials prefer antiperspirant?

If I had to choose between a deodorant and anti-perspirant, I'd consistently take the latter.


It is natural for your body to perspire.  Unless you are dripping when you do, use deodorant.  It is not fair to confuse your sweat glands.
2014-07-06 04:17:25 AM  
1 votes:
Axe body spray doesn't count either.
2014-07-06 04:09:49 AM  
1 votes:

quo vadimus: Perhaps millenials prefer antiperspirant?


If I had to choose between a deodorant and anti-perspirant, I'd consistently take the latter.
2014-07-06 04:00:41 AM  
1 votes:
It sounds like my step-brother. He is 22, obese and he doesn't like to shower. I had to sit in a very long car ride with him and it was pretty bad.
2014-07-06 03:38:43 AM  
1 votes:
Deodorant isn't of daily importance... a good one will last at least 2 days if you don't sweat much.

And don't wear perfume or cologne to an interview. Some people are allergic, and the last thing you want to do is annoy the person interviewing you. You should be freshly showered and scentless.
2014-07-06 03:06:03 AM  
1 votes:

nijika: Oh god Baby Boomers please stop with these.  I had to deal with this crap all through the Generation X mania years, do you have to do it to ANOTHER generation too?


Since people live a lot longer, each of us can look forward to talking down to two subsequent generations instead of merely one. Truly, we are living in wondrous times.
2014-07-06 02:54:17 AM  
1 votes:
Having had to personally take a few of my younger friends (and pay for) to get a haircut before a job interview or trying to get a date I can sympathize. Yah, people should judge you on the quality of your character but they don't. And showing you are willing to make a bit of extra effort to look nice for something important goes a long way. Not to mention the extra confidence boost it will give you.
2014-07-06 02:53:53 AM  
1 votes:

some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.


I would think that someone who was serious about not being poor and/or unemployed would make personal hygiene a priority.
2014-07-06 02:47:06 AM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: some_beer_drinker: i don't wear deodorant because it gives me a rash. i also sweat a lot, so i smell like rotten fruit.

Is it deodorant or antiperspirant? I know the latter makes me itch like the dickens. Plus I don't think it's natural to attempt to chemically prevent yourself from sweating.


You guys should try ammonium alum salt crystal deodorant.  It won't cover up a thing, but it will prevent bacteria from easily growing wherever you apply it.  That's right.. anywhere.

It will sweat off of your skin if you run a marathon in August, but regular deodorant isn't doing much for you then either.

Also, despite what some may claim it contains aluminum, but possibly not the worst kind of aluminum, so that's nice.
2014-07-06 02:20:11 AM  
1 votes:
I'm asked if everything is okay if I don't reek of booze in the morning.

/Farking puritans
2014-07-06 01:59:21 AM  
1 votes:
Yeah, having worked with plenty of them, the guys reek of bo and axe to try and cover it up, the ladies REALLY need to keep their legs closed(srsly, yikes).

Soap and hot water, people. It's not crazy. It's part of why we live longer than people in 1300.
2014-07-06 12:04:51 AM  
1 votes:

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


This.  They take a ranking, which place deodorant or toothbrush slightly down the list, and act as though they were completely exluded.  When you factor in the way millenials are portrayed a being obsessed with smartphones and social media, there might be some social training showing itself.

Lsherm: I've been interviewing quite a lot of recent grads at my new job.   We've had some alarming interviews with recent grads who farking REEK of alcohol during the interview.  They clearly can't smell it, and since they're young they don't look hungover, but Jesus Christ I've worked with functioning alcoholics who manage to come to work each day smelling better than these kids.  Here's a protip: don't go out drinking the night before an interview.  You can go out drinking right after the interview, just stay dry for 24 hours before the interview.  Women or men - they'll try to cover it up with Axe or perfume but that sour alcohol smell is still there.

We've also had people who come from areas of the world where deodorant or perfume isn't commonly used. My advice? Learn to use it at least for the interview.  We sat through a horrific 60 minutes with a woman who was very attractive, very qualified, and who smelled like she hadn't washed herself in 16 days. It was a stink that lingered so strongly the next interview candidate felt the need to point out the smell wasn't coming from her.  I sympathized.  Four hours later I could still smell that woman in the room.  If Seinfeld hadn't done it first, it could have been a sitcom episode.


Maybe those drunk job candidates don't really want to work for you and are just using you for practice.  As for Funky Foreigner, you have all my sympathy and admiration for not breaking down and saying something to her about it.  On the other hand, after a reasonable interval, sending her anonymous packages of Secret and some body wash might be the most humanitarian thing you will ever do.
2014-07-05 11:58:54 PM  
1 votes:
And wash those goddamned jeans, filthy hipsters!
2014-07-05 11:04:33 PM  
1 votes:

some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.


That's absolutely not true.  I've been poor and unemployed.  The first thing you skimp on is beer.
2014-07-05 10:39:11 PM  
1 votes:
Apparently proofreaders, of whatever generation, can't spell millennials right.
 
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