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2014-07-05 10:39:11 PM  
Apparently proofreaders, of whatever generation, can't spell millennials right.
 
2014-07-05 10:54:42 PM  
when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.
 
2014-07-05 11:03:10 PM  
I've been interviewing quite a lot of recent grads at my new job.   We've had some alarming interviews with recent grads who farking REEK of alcohol during the interview.  They clearly can't smell it, and since they're young they don't look hungover, but Jesus Christ I've worked with functioning alcoholics who manage to come to work each day smelling better than these kids.  Here's a protip: don't go out drinking the night before an interview.  You can go out drinking right after the interview, just stay dry for 24 hours before the interview.  Women or men - they'll try to cover it up with Axe or perfume but that sour alcohol smell is still there.

We've also had people who come from areas of the world where deodorant or perfume isn't commonly used. My advice? Learn to use it at least for the interview.  We sat through a horrific 60 minutes with a woman who was very attractive, very qualified, and who smelled like she hadn't washed herself in 16 days. It was a stink that lingered so strongly the next interview candidate felt the need to point out the smell wasn't coming from her.  I sympathized.  Four hours later I could still smell that woman in the room.  If Seinfeld hadn't done it first, it could have been a sitcom episode.
 
2014-07-05 11:04:33 PM  

some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.


That's absolutely not true.  I've been poor and unemployed.  The first thing you skimp on is beer.
 
2014-07-05 11:05:12 PM  
This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.
 
2014-07-05 11:19:52 PM  

Lsherm: some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.

That's absolutely not true.  I've been poor and unemployed.  The first thing you skimp on is beer.


you clearly have your priorities very mixed up. when i was poor and unemployed i made my own beer, and sold the extra to my friends. never never give up on beer, or your life is over.
 
2014-07-05 11:58:54 PM  
And wash those goddamned jeans, filthy hipsters!
 
2014-07-06 12:04:51 AM  

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


This.  They take a ranking, which place deodorant or toothbrush slightly down the list, and act as though they were completely exluded.  When you factor in the way millenials are portrayed a being obsessed with smartphones and social media, there might be some social training showing itself.

Lsherm: I've been interviewing quite a lot of recent grads at my new job.   We've had some alarming interviews with recent grads who farking REEK of alcohol during the interview.  They clearly can't smell it, and since they're young they don't look hungover, but Jesus Christ I've worked with functioning alcoholics who manage to come to work each day smelling better than these kids.  Here's a protip: don't go out drinking the night before an interview.  You can go out drinking right after the interview, just stay dry for 24 hours before the interview.  Women or men - they'll try to cover it up with Axe or perfume but that sour alcohol smell is still there.

We've also had people who come from areas of the world where deodorant or perfume isn't commonly used. My advice? Learn to use it at least for the interview.  We sat through a horrific 60 minutes with a woman who was very attractive, very qualified, and who smelled like she hadn't washed herself in 16 days. It was a stink that lingered so strongly the next interview candidate felt the need to point out the smell wasn't coming from her.  I sympathized.  Four hours later I could still smell that woman in the room.  If Seinfeld hadn't done it first, it could have been a sitcom episode.


Maybe those drunk job candidates don't really want to work for you and are just using you for practice.  As for Funky Foreigner, you have all my sympathy and admiration for not breaking down and saying something to her about it.  On the other hand, after a reasonable interval, sending her anonymous packages of Secret and some body wash might be the most humanitarian thing you will ever do.
 
2014-07-06 12:12:14 AM  
This one time I came into work really hung over and my boss told me I smelled like liquor.  I was really embarrassed, but my boss was cool about it, like he knew how it felt - like he'd been there and done that and understood.
 
2014-07-06 12:57:51 AM  

TheOther: Maybe those drunk job candidates don't really want to work for you and are just using you for practice.  As for Funky Foreigner, you have all my sympathy and admiration for not breaking down and saying something to her about it.  On the other hand, after a reasonable interval, sending her anonymous packages of Secret and some body wash might be the most humanitarian thing you will ever do.


Fair enough, but why bother?  Who thinks like this?  Why would anyone interview for a $60K a year job smelling like booze, especially if you don't have any work experience? I'll accept they think they can get something better, but that's a great starting salary outside of the financial industry, particularly for a job advertised as "recent graduates welcome."

I will not send anything to the woman who stank because it opens us up to all kinds of liability.
 
2014-07-06 01:38:39 AM  
They're revolting.
 
2014-07-06 01:59:21 AM  
Yeah, having worked with plenty of them, the guys reek of bo and axe to try and cover it up, the ladies REALLY need to keep their legs closed(srsly, yikes).

Soap and hot water, people. It's not crazy. It's part of why we live longer than people in 1300.
 
2014-07-06 02:01:31 AM  

Bucky Katt: They're revolting.

 

I wish they were revolting. Sadly, they remain to addicted to their ponies and Obama to revolt.
 
2014-07-06 02:02:42 AM  

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


This would be a textbook example of how journalists intentionally f*ck up reporting scientific findings for the sake of circulation or, in this case, clicks. A weak and relatively irrelevant study about deodorant use becomes "Unemployable Generation Reek."

/inb4 "rhymes with meek"
 
2014-07-06 02:04:24 AM  
So if you're looking to go corporate, douse yourself in patchouli.
 
2014-07-06 02:05:16 AM  
Aren't showers more important than deodorant anyway? What a silly article.
 
2014-07-06 02:05:59 AM  

Bucky Katt: They're revolting.


Yeah and they really stink too.

/saw what you did there
 
2014-07-06 02:14:12 AM  
So more people that the moon landing was faked than that deodorant and toothpaste are optional?  That seems like a step forward.
 
2014-07-06 02:15:01 AM  
Oh my God, four percent fewer consider deodorant essential, to say nothing of whether or not they use it anyway, than older people? Truly the entire generation is doomed.
 
2014-07-06 02:18:06 AM  
i don't wear deodorant because it gives me a rash. i also sweat a lot, so i smell like rotten fruit.
 
2014-07-06 02:20:11 AM  
I'm asked if everything is okay if I don't reek of booze in the morning.

/Farking puritans
 
2014-07-06 02:21:47 AM  
Some autistic people can smell everything.  They can smell it all.  They smell your pits and your crotch and they know what you ate and if you wipe properly.

I'd rock back and forth too.
 
2014-07-06 02:21:49 AM  

Bucky Katt: They're revolting.


You said it, they stink on ice!
 
2014-07-06 02:24:02 AM  
I wouldn't want to work for a company that expects me to "shower" and "groom" myself.
 
2014-07-06 02:27:09 AM  
So young people take slightly less care of their bodies because those bodies will still be beautiful by virtue of their youth?  This has always been true.  Nothing to see here.
 
2014-07-06 02:27:44 AM  

some_beer_drinker: i don't wear deodorant because it gives me a rash. i also sweat a lot, so i smell like rotten fruit.


Is it deodorant or antiperspirant? I know the latter makes me itch like the dickens. Plus I don't think it's natural to attempt to chemically prevent yourself from sweating.
 
2014-07-06 02:28:54 AM  

Lsherm: Fair enough, but why bother? Who thinks like this? Why would anyone interview for a $60K a year job smelling like booze, especially if you don't have any work experience?


There's your problem.  Who the ever-loving fark would bother going to college if they were willing to take a job for $60K?

/Unless you're in the middle of absolute BFE, freezing-cold nowhere.
//Or into non-profit work.
 
2014-07-06 02:32:41 AM  

baconbeard: I wouldn't want to work for a company that expects me to "shower" and "groom" myself.


I'm a millennial and I see it as a form of sexual harassment. What is that they're buttering me up for? "Mmm, u smell nice" my new boss will say to me on the first day of work. "I'm glad u followed my advice and soaped up ;). Drinks l8r?". Omg!! not interested k...
 
2014-07-06 02:33:06 AM  

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


Yeah, it is utter garbage. Even their comparison for Millennial doesn't make sense. Smartphones were "'very' or 'somewhat' important" while deodorant and toothbrushes were of "daily importance".


Looking at the actual report:  http://newsroom.bankofamerica.com/sites/bankofamerica.newshq.business w ire.com/files/press_kit/additional/2014_BAC_Trends_in_Consumer_Mobilit y.pdf

The vast majority of difference is people giving their phone a higher importance, not ranking hygiene lower. Mobile phone for those 18-24 is 5% above the overall average, while deodorant is 1% below and toothbrush 2% below. And the increase of the mobile phone can easily be explained by those 18-24 putting much less importance on computers.
 
2014-07-06 02:40:26 AM  

fusillade762: some_beer_drinker: i don't wear deodorant because it gives me a rash. i also sweat a lot, so i smell like rotten fruit.

Is it deodorant or antiperspirant? I know the latter makes me itch like the dickens. Plus I don't think it's natural to attempt to chemically prevent yourself from sweating.


i have psoriasis. anything scented gives me a rash. if my clothes are washed in scented detergent, and i wear them, it feels like i have splashed with acid.
 
2014-07-06 02:43:39 AM  

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


So much this, smartphones are luxuries which they have one of, it's became most peoples main tool for socializing and entertainment. Most had to beg their parents or buy one themselves. While deodorant and toothbrush have always just been provided. They are always there, and if not their are mints, gum, and body spray. And not to mention you use deodorant once a day, maybe twice, and toothbrushes once to four times a day, but smartphones are out constantly.
 
2014-07-06 02:44:06 AM  

some_beer_drinker: i don't wear deodorant because it gives me a rash. i also sweat a lot, so i smell like rotten fruit.


Have you considered the Thai Deodorant Stone? Actually heard about this on a fark thread, and having a teen daughter who just didn't respond to deodorant at all, I bought it for her. Of course, she rolled her eyes and such, but she uses it, and it works like a charm.

/one of the rare times when fark proved to be educational to my life
 
2014-07-06 02:46:08 AM  
Oh god Baby Boomers please stop with these.  I had to deal with this crap all through the Generation X mania years, do you have to do it to ANOTHER generation too?
 
2014-07-06 02:47:06 AM  

fusillade762: some_beer_drinker: i don't wear deodorant because it gives me a rash. i also sweat a lot, so i smell like rotten fruit.

Is it deodorant or antiperspirant? I know the latter makes me itch like the dickens. Plus I don't think it's natural to attempt to chemically prevent yourself from sweating.


You guys should try ammonium alum salt crystal deodorant.  It won't cover up a thing, but it will prevent bacteria from easily growing wherever you apply it.  That's right.. anywhere.

It will sweat off of your skin if you run a marathon in August, but regular deodorant isn't doing much for you then either.

Also, despite what some may claim it contains aluminum, but possibly not the worst kind of aluminum, so that's nice.
 
2014-07-06 02:51:49 AM  
Taking a small survey and blowing out into a giant news story...Next on NBC...

And for Shiva's sake South Asian People...BATHE REGULARLY! Pretend your shower is the Ganges and get blessed by it daily..

/NO, pouring half a bottle of Drakkar Noir on yourself is not a substitute..
//Neither is Sandlewood
 
2014-07-06 02:53:53 AM  

some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.


I would think that someone who was serious about not being poor and/or unemployed would make personal hygiene a priority.
 
2014-07-06 02:54:17 AM  
Having had to personally take a few of my younger friends (and pay for) to get a haircut before a job interview or trying to get a date I can sympathize. Yah, people should judge you on the quality of your character but they don't. And showing you are willing to make a bit of extra effort to look nice for something important goes a long way. Not to mention the extra confidence boost it will give you.
 
2014-07-06 02:59:02 AM  

Munchkin City Coroner: some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.

I would think that someone who was serious about not being poor and/or unemployed would make personal hygiene a priority.


i blame the parents.
 
2014-07-06 03:00:42 AM  

udhq: Lsherm: Fair enough, but why bother? Who thinks like this? Why would anyone interview for a $60K a year job smelling like booze, especially if you don't have any work experience?

There's your problem.  Who the ever-loving fark would bother going to college if they were willing to take a job for $60K?

/Unless you're in the middle of absolute BFE, freezing-cold nowhere.
//Or into non-profit work.


img829.imageshack.us

That's a good salary for someone with no job experience at all.  Outside of NY or California, it's almost outstanding.
 
2014-07-06 03:06:03 AM  

nijika: Oh god Baby Boomers please stop with these.  I had to deal with this crap all through the Generation X mania years, do you have to do it to ANOTHER generation too?


Since people live a lot longer, each of us can look forward to talking down to two subsequent generations instead of merely one. Truly, we are living in wondrous times.
 
2014-07-06 03:07:25 AM  

nijika: Oh god Baby Boomers please stop with these.  I had to deal with this crap all through the Generation X mania years, do you have to do it to ANOTHER generation too?


Yes, they have to since they got away with it the first time.
 
2014-07-06 03:14:59 AM  

some_beer_drinker: never never give up on beer, or your life is over.


Had a friend, had the same attitude on beer. They found him dead on the couch at age 56. Do give it a break once in awhile.
 
2014-07-06 03:17:03 AM  
As a millennial I can confirm this. Even in college, most guys my age think that a big ol' handful of Axe cologne is just as good as a shower.

/No substitute for soap and water.
//My first college roommate stunk so badly that the dorm manager accused us of having a litter box in the room.
///I had to keep the window open even when it was snowing.
 
2014-07-06 03:38:43 AM  
Deodorant isn't of daily importance... a good one will last at least 2 days if you don't sweat much.

And don't wear perfume or cologne to an interview. Some people are allergic, and the last thing you want to do is annoy the person interviewing you. You should be freshly showered and scentless.
 
2014-07-06 03:40:24 AM  
...and what about those Magic players?

img.fark.net
 
2014-07-06 03:48:03 AM  

Kurmudgeon: some_beer_drinker: never never give up on beer, or your life is over.

Had a friend, had the same attitude on beer. They found him dead on the couch at age 56. Do give it a break once in awhile.


Think how much his short life would have sucked if he hadn't had beer!
 
2014-07-06 03:55:59 AM  
Perhaps millenials prefer antiperspirant?
 
2014-07-06 03:59:44 AM  

TheOmni: This article is so farking dumb. The whole thing is based off a survey about what people say is important in their daily lives. All around the one data point saying that "millennials" (they never actually define the term) only scored deodorant at 87, versus a 91 for all "adults" surveyed (again, age range not defined). Nothing about actual usage or odor, just saying if they think that deodorant is of daily importance. And then they took that 4 point difference and just randomly threw in some condescending job advice and the requisite shiatting on millennials.


I read the first two sentences and xed the page out.

I don't read a lot of MSNBC, so I was kind of shocked that that is what actually passes as newsworthy over there.
 
2014-07-06 04:00:41 AM  
It sounds like my step-brother. He is 22, obese and he doesn't like to shower. I had to sit in a very long car ride with him and it was pretty bad.
 
2014-07-06 04:01:39 AM  

Lsherm: some_beer_drinker: when you are poor or unemployed, personal hygiene is the first thing you start to skimp on.

That's absolutely not true.  I've been poor and unemployed.  The first thing you skimp on is beer.


You shut your mouth
 
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