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(WYFF 4 Greenville)   Not news: A Culver's restaurant in Wisconsin burns down. News: Instead of firing the staff the owner pays $144,000 out of his own pocket to keep his staff while rebuilding. Fark: And only asked them to use the time to volunteer in the community   (wyff4.com) divider line 73
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2014-07-05 08:04:09 PM  
People like that are cool.
 
2014-07-05 10:59:04 PM  
Culver's is a first class operation.  Their burgers are superb and the shakes to die for and now, with this, they've cemented their place in my book at number one.

/Live on the east coast, therefore there isn't a Culver's nearby and I'm jealous of all you people in America's heartland.
 
2014-07-05 11:06:45 PM  
We should be drafting a President, not just letting the strongest gang win.
This guy seems like what we really want Large and In Charge.
 
2014-07-05 11:32:34 PM  

Prey4reign: Culver's is a first class operation.  Their burgers are superb and the shakes to die for and now, with this, they've cemented their place in my book at number one.

/Live on the east coast, therefore there isn't a Culver's nearby and I'm jealous of all you people in America's heartland.


I will look for it on my next road trip.
 
2014-07-05 11:34:23 PM  
My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.
 
2014-07-05 11:34:28 PM  
Fun fact. Craig Culver got his undergrad at the university I went to/work for.
 
2014-07-05 11:36:00 PM  
I knew I liked their overcooked/overpriced burgers for a reason. I just didn't have one until now.
 
2014-07-05 11:36:31 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.


Actually it does. He retains a trained staff and gets a decent amount of publicity, all without looking like an ass.
 
2014-07-05 11:36:43 PM  
This is not a good thing.  This so-called "job creator" was preventing dozens of eligible employees from graciously accepting the public safety net of unemployment that is highly encourgagged to accept with generous paychecks of 250-300 dollars a week before tax.

Why does this owner hate unemployment?

B-B-B-Benghazi!!!1111

/but seriously, wow
 
2014-07-05 11:38:06 PM  
I applaud the business owner for being a great man, and for volunteering to do this.  However, any of those employees would have been able to draw unemployment.  They didn't lose the job - their building burnt the fark down - and since the owner is planning on reopening, they would have been able to qualify for benefits without having to search for work.

It just saddens me that a simple act of compassion in the business world is newsworthy.  It's much more commonplace for us to hear about employees getting it up the bum with no recourse.
 
2014-07-05 11:38:58 PM  
Culver's is the least shiatty fast food going, and hey, ice cream too.
 
2014-07-05 11:43:05 PM  

anwserman: I applaud the business owner for being a great man, and for volunteering to do this.  However, any of those employees would have been able to draw unemployment.  They didn't lose the job - their building burnt the fark down - and since the owner is planning on reopening, they would have been able to qualify for benefits without having to search for work.

It just saddens me that a simple act of compassion in the business world is newsworthy.  It's much more commonplace for us to hear about employees getting it up the bum with no recourse.


Well ain't you just the life of the party
 
2014-07-05 11:43:36 PM  

anwserman: I applaud the business owner for being a great man, and for volunteering to do this.  However, any of those employees would have been able to draw unemployment.  They didn't lose the job - their building burnt the fark down - and since the owner is planning on reopening, they would have been able to qualify for benefits without having to search for work.

It just saddens me that a simple act of compassion in the business world is newsworthy.  It's much more commonplace for us to hear about employees getting it up the bum with no recourse.


Which would've cost the owner money anyway.  What's your point?
 
2014-07-05 11:48:05 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.

Actually it does. He retains a trained staff and gets a decent amount of publicity, all without looking like an ass.


And you're driving to East Bumfark Wisconsin to go to that Culvers?  The publicity isn't likely to be all that helpful and the staff at fast food operations is very able to be replaced.  It's kind of a high-turnover gig.

I'm not throwing stones at him for doing it.  It was the moral thing to do.  I'm just challenging that there was a reasonable business case for doing so.  If nobody had ever heard of Culvers (and/or he was more than a franchise holder), then the publicity might be worth something.
 
2014-07-05 11:49:57 PM  

Prey4reign: Culver's is a first class operation.  Their burgers are superb and the shakes to die for and now, with this, they've cemented their place in my book at number one.

/Live on the east coast, therefore there isn't a Culver's nearby and I'm jealous of all you people in America's heartland.


I dunno where you live, but never say never.  We've got two in South Carolina.  And they're so damn good...
 
2014-07-05 11:49:58 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.

Actually it does. He retains a trained staff and gets a decent amount of publicity, all without looking like an ass.


Maybe, but I'm sure there's a dollar figure on it. If he was a less successful restaurant owner (like most of them) then that outlay wouldn't even be possible, much less make business sense. Part of what he did was straight up charity.  That's a good thing, but other small business owners probably aren't in a position to do such a thing.
 
2014-07-05 11:55:43 PM  

Prey4reign: Culver's is a first class operation.  Their burgers are superb and the shakes to die for and now, with this, they've cemented their place in my book at number one.

/Live on the east coast, therefore there isn't a Culver's nearby and I'm jealous of all you people in America's heartland.


They're moving into Florida now, as is Wawa.  I suppose the idea is that there's demand from the snowbirds for businesses they know from up north.  Whatever the reason, it's a good thing.  Now if only White Castle would get on that bandwagon...
 
2014-07-05 11:56:11 PM  
Good for him.  I'll check out his restaurant next time I'm in the area - Culver's is far and away my favorite fast food joint anyway.
 
2014-07-05 11:56:16 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: globalwarmingpraiser: XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.

Actually it does. He retains a trained staff and gets a decent amount of publicity, all without looking like an ass.

And you're driving to East Bumfark Wisconsin to go to that Culvers?  The publicity isn't likely to be all that helpful and the staff at fast food operations is very able to be replaced.  It's kind of a high-turnover gig.

I'm not throwing stones at him for doing it.  It was the moral thing to do.  I'm just challenging that there was a reasonable business case for doing so.  If nobody had ever heard of Culvers (and/or he was more than a franchise holder), then the publicity might be worth something.


Wow, and I thought I was cynical. You do realize that the story was great publicity for the local population right? You know, the people that would be choosing which fast food restaurant in town to go to? And yes there's heavy turn over in the fast food business, but it's somewhat rare to have to replace the staff in it's entirety all in one go.
 
2014-07-05 11:57:08 PM  
Fun fact. The night after that Culver's re-opened, a tornado came within 100 yards of it but didn't damage the building. That would have been a kicker.
 
2014-07-06 12:00:13 AM  
That's a standup thing to do. Hopefully all of those employees realize what a gift they have been given and actually go out there and help the community.
 
2014-07-06 12:15:54 AM  
Socialism at its finest.
 
2014-07-06 12:19:13 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Culver's is the least shiatty fast food going, and hey, ice cream too.


It's frozen custard. They are not the same thing.
 
2014-07-06 12:22:04 AM  

XveryYpettyZ: globalwarmingpraiser: XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.

Actually it does. He retains a trained staff and gets a decent amount of publicity, all without looking like an ass.

And you're driving to East Bumfark Wisconsin to go to that Culvers?  The publicity isn't likely to be all that helpful and the staff at fast food operations is very able to be replaced.  It's kind of a high-turnover gig.

I'm not throwing stones at him for doing it.  It was the moral thing to do.  I'm just challenging that there was a reasonable business case for doing so.  If nobody had ever heard of Culvers (and/or he was more than a franchise holder), then the publicity might be worth something.


Let me guess. Your day job is writing editorials for the WSJ.
 
2014-07-06 12:22:14 AM  

Miss.UnderstoodRedhead: anwserman: I applaud the business owner for being a great man, and for volunteering to do this.  However, any of those employees would have been able to draw unemployment.  They didn't lose the job - their building burnt the fark down - and since the owner is planning on reopening, they would have been able to qualify for benefits without having to search for work.

It just saddens me that a simple act of compassion in the business world is newsworthy.  It's much more commonplace for us to hear about employees getting it up the bum with no recourse.

Which would've cost the owner money anyway.  What's your point?


He already paid into the system for unemployment for his employees, vs paying more on-top of what he already paid.

upndn: Well ain't you just the life of the party


I'm being honest. I think what the business owner did is fantastic, and he's a great guy for doing that.  My job is seasonal and I have the opportunity to draw unemployment, and as a result I know more about how the system works than an average Joe who uses it as a talking point about SOCIALISM AND WELFARE OMG.  It's there to be used to make sure your staff has enough money to continue coming back to work for you, to cover for the times when there is no work for you to give them.
 
2014-07-06 12:22:45 AM  
All of my experiences with the local Culvers have been nothing short of splendid.
They're clean.
The staff is 110% courteous, and clean and you don't have to worry about catching something contagious from them.
The food is spectacular.
The frozen custard is worth every penny.

I would think that the type of individual that would have a franchise would also be the sort of person
that would have the sort of outlook and personality that would make such a decision.

Nonetheless, good on them for doing this for his staff.
 
2014-07-06 12:23:08 AM  
What a cool thing to do!
You go with your bad self, mister.
 
2014-07-06 12:23:51 AM  

XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.


Yeah it did.

I would work for someone like that till I dropped from exhaustion.
 
2014-07-06 12:29:28 AM  

Prey4reign: Culver's is a first class operation.  Their burgers are superb and the shakes to die for and now, with this, they've cemented their place in my book at number one.

/Live on the east coast, therefore there isn't a Culver's nearby and I'm jealous of all you people in America's heartland.


Yep, hit them up when I go to the midwest out in Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin etc....nice place and good food.

As for them on the East Cost...lets go in on a franchise =)
 
2014-07-06 12:31:05 AM  

Gyrfalcon: XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.

Yeah it did.

I would work for someone like that till I dropped from exhaustion.


Between that and the local community loving him it was a smart move. A smart employer takes care of their employees. Unfortunately, most business owners today read Atlas Shrugged and the James Taggart was the hero.
 
2014-07-06 12:31:07 AM  
Culver's > In-N-Out
 
2014-07-06 12:37:23 AM  

rooftop235: People like that are cool.


So a business owner digs 144k out of his couch to imprison his toiling slaves? If they had any balls they would storm his castle and take what's theirs.
 
2014-07-06 12:48:59 AM  
This story has got to be a lie.

I've been told by Fark that all business owners, without exception, are money grubbing, slave driving pieces of shiat that don't deserve to breath the air the rest of us breath.
 
2014-07-06 12:51:25 AM  
Now I want a Reese's peanut butter Concrete Mixer, or a blueberry malt.

Dammit! Why does it have to be midnight?
 
2014-07-06 01:22:36 AM  

anwserman: It's there to be used to make sure your staff has enough money to continue coming back to work for you, to cover for the times when there is no work for you to give them.


You know, unemployment compensation doesn't equal your paycheck. In some states, it's a pretty small percentage. I used to get about $200 every two weeks in TN (back in 2001). And that wasn't the minimum.
 
2014-07-06 01:22:42 AM  

globalwarmingpraiser: Gyrfalcon: XveryYpettyZ: My only bone to pick was his statement that it made "business sense" to do that.  It didn't, but that's what makes it a good act.  I hope that's just a modest person being modest.

Yeah it did.

I would work for someone like that till I dropped from exhaustion.

Between that and the local community loving him it was a smart move. A smart employer takes care of their employees. Unfortunately, most business owners today read Atlas Shrugged and the James Taggart was the hero.


Fun fact: there is a road in Omaha named John Galt Boulevard. The guy who owned the land where the road was built loved Atlas Shrugged, and he named the road in honor of the hero of the book.
 
2014-07-06 01:25:13 AM  
Always liked Culvers, but they tend to occupy smaller cities/towns, don't have them in Denver.  Nice folks, good, customer service and good (but, ok) not great food.  The cheese curds, tho, man, those get me every time that and their cement mixers in the summer.

/nutterbutter cement mixer, plz
 
2014-07-06 01:26:13 AM  
From the Wisconsin Dept of Workforce Development:

The maximum and minimum benefit rates are determined by UI law. The minimum WBR [weekly benefit rate] is $54, requiring high quarter earnings of $1,350; and the maximum WBR is $370, requiring high quarter earnings of $9,250.
 
2014-07-06 01:33:55 AM  
zepher:

I've been told by Fark that all business owners, without exception, are money grubbing, slave driving pieces of shiat that don't deserve to breath the air the rest of us breath.

When one breaks the mold, it's an *international* news story.
 
2014-07-06 02:14:21 AM  

kingflower: Culver's > In-N-Out


We have both in AZ, and I'd have to disagree about the burgers. Butter burgers are good, but InO has a better overall burger. All of the other items are great. The chicken strips are perfect.

/your beer choice sucks
//jk
 
2014-07-06 02:28:52 AM  
I live not far from Platteville and use to stop there everytime that I was in that town. He also owns The store in Dubuque IA. Always saw the same staff there for years.
 
2014-07-06 02:50:46 AM  
According to the article he has 40 employees.

Even if all of them are working half time, $144,000 / 40 is some pretty shiatty wages for six months.
 
2014-07-06 02:59:58 AM  
Culver's is dead to me until they bring back the goddamn Walleye.
 
2014-07-06 03:03:57 AM  
Whenever I see a story about a restaurant employee or franchise owner doing something nice or good I fully expect to learn the next day that they were terminated by the franchise headquarters for some arcane violation of their rules.
 
2014-07-06 03:11:34 AM  

qualtrough: Whenever I see a story about a restaurant employee or franchise owner doing something nice or good I fully expect to learn the next day that they were terminated by the franchise headquarters for some arcane violation of their rules.


That's just your inner Fark Cynic talking.  It's bound to work out at least once.  Maybe this time...
 
2014-07-06 04:21:27 AM  
That was cool.
Even though it's not the Culver's close by, I have a craving to check one out.
Kudo's to the Boss. (Seems he could have still wrote it off as a loss. Hired employees who didn't sell anything.)
 
2014-07-06 04:42:15 AM  
Culver's food is good. But, all their AZ locations seem to have issues with the local Health Department. But, I haven't got sick from eating their good.
 
2014-07-06 04:55:11 AM  
Typical Wisconsinite!

Pfft!
 
2014-07-06 05:04:00 AM  
Personally, I can't stand Culver's simply because of the atrocity they do to their buns, but good on the owner for helping out his employees.  I'll have to make sure to get food from there the next time I'm drunk (likely in about an hour).

It seems odd to say that I enjoy spending money, but I do enjoy spending my money at places that are what I term "good stewards", be it of their employees, the environment, or whatever.  I'm not sold on the food at Culver's but if this is what their ownership is like, they'll get my money.  I'm not sold on the food at Chipotle, either, but my brother-in-law is a regional manager, and their corporate policies are outstanding so I go there rather than some of the other local burrito joints.  Same with Costco vs. Sam's Club.  At least Costco pays their employees a living wage.

Be decent to my community, and I'll go out of my way to take my business there.  Be a dick to the community and I'll avoid you like the plague.  I wish more retailers operated under this pretense.
 
2014-07-06 05:05:54 AM  

croesius: Culver's is dead to me until they bring back the goddamn Walleye.


If it was Lake Erie walleye there's a reason they removed it from the menu.  It was toxic.
 
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