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(Business Insider)   Here's how Nintendo plans to ride out the current "dry spell" of new games for the Wii U console, a dry spell that started when the Wii U came out and that has continued uninterrupted through this weekend   (businessinsider.com) divider line 114
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2014-07-05 09:00:17 PM
If Nintendo thinks they can support their console entirely on their own, with no third party support, that's fine, but for that to work two things need to be true. 1. They need to have A LOT of their own content, and a steady stream of it, not this stuff gets released in fits and spurts throughout the year crap. and 2. ALL of it needs to be great, not good, not so-so, but every last game needs to be phenomenal. Instead they have a couple of very good or even great games, and a whole lot of "meh".

Personally I don't think they can do it, I really think Nintendo should just take this generation as a write off, and bow out for a few years while they re-evaluate their market strategy, at least for home consoles. If I were Reggie, I would start updating my resume, because the last thing you want to be is the face of a failing company.
 
2014-07-05 09:46:49 PM
If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.
 
2014-07-05 10:39:12 PM
I enjoyed the yoga on Wii.
 
2014-07-05 10:39:21 PM

Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.


I don't know or do Pokemon, but this.  What little I know of that franchise tells me that would pretty much put their private cash copier on infinite repeat.
 
2014-07-05 10:49:24 PM
yeah, that dry spell that has included an HD remake of a game i have always wanted to play (windwaker), wonderful 101, mario kart (an admittedly pleasant rehash of previous mario kart games which also goes for...) mario 3-d world and mario brotherU, leog city undercover, and monster hunter ultimate... what a load of crap, right?  i am so tired of people crapping on the wiiU with cheap trolling.  I am also tired of nintendo giving them ammo by being slow and resistant to consumer expectation, but it seems to turn out in their favor in the end.
 
2014-07-05 10:49:46 PM

Cpl.D: Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.

I don't know or do Pokemon, but this.  What little I know of that franchise tells me that would pretty much put their private cash copier on infinite repeat.


I can honestly say that I hope nothing like that ever comes out. I spent 6 years of my life addicted to world of Warcraft and I could only see bad things happening to my social life if Nintendo were to do that.
 
2014-07-05 10:50:23 PM

Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.


The problem with this is that there has never really been a hugely successful console MMO. I guess the Monster Hunter stuff is successful enough, but even that is a bit of a niche fan base.
 
2014-07-05 10:50:49 PM
cdn.wegotthiscovered.com
 
2014-07-05 10:53:03 PM
Though Nintendo capitalizes on nostalgia probably more so than any other gaming company

Can't believe people will pay out the ass for a modern console just to play a remade version of SMB2 on virtual console when FCEUX exists.

I even found instructions online for how to mod a Wii to run FCEUX and Snes9x.  I don't even...

/PC gamer master race
 
2014-07-05 10:53:51 PM

Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.


That idea might work if they had an online service that wasn't a pathetic joke 15 years behind the competition.
 
2014-07-05 10:55:07 PM
They've got Mario Kart Wii U.

They'll be fine.
 
2014-07-05 11:05:37 PM

DBrandisNC: They've got Mario Kart Wii U.

They'll be fine.

i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-07-05 11:06:46 PM

spman: Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.

The problem with this is that there has never really been a hugely successful console MMO. I guess the Monster Hunter stuff is successful enough, but even that is a bit of a niche fan base.


WoW, Secret World, Everquest, Ultima Online to name a few, and aside from WoW and Ultima, those other ones didn't have a pre-existing fanbase. With Pokemon, taking 4 or 5 positions out of the top 40 selling games of all time, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that a Pokemon MMO would friggin' explode unit sales for Nintendo and become the #1 MMO in the world in no time flat. If they were real smart, they would release a full-blown version on the WiiU, and a "lite" version on the 3DS, like Sony did with the Pocketstation in Japan. Push sales of the 3DS for those who don't have it and want to get their fix on the go, and push tons of WiiU units for people who want the full game.

I just recently played it (wanted to see what all the hubbub was about), so I got it along with the Zelda game for the 3DS, and kiddy story aside... It's a fun, addicting game. I highly discourage completionists from playing it, since I've heard people can spend months on end without getting 100% completion on the game. And as ann MMO? Nintendo will have another golden goose on their hands.
 
2014-07-05 11:11:38 PM

dookdookdook: Can't believe people will pay out the ass for a modern console just to play a remade version of SMB2 on virtual console when FCEUX exists.


I can't believe you know people who buy consoles just to play games released on NES. Some serious 'tards in that "master race" of yours.
 
2014-07-05 11:16:48 PM

RoxtarRyan: I can't believe you know people who buy consoles just to play games released on NES.


I might just pay $300 to play SMB3, if I had no other options.  Never in a thousand years would I pay $300 to play SMBU.
 
2014-07-05 11:21:30 PM
I purchased a WiiU a couple weeks ago for Mario Kart. I also got Wii Party U, Nintendoland and Wario Ware.

I had a party yesterday for the 4th and the WiiU was in constant use for 10 hours. A good group of friends and a WiiU are a winning combination.

For the single player games, I'm a PC guy all the way. Huge Steam library, tons of hours put into it.  But for hanging out with friends playing games, I think the WiiU is the way to go. Seems like a much better investment than a PS4 or Xbone.
 
2014-07-05 11:22:28 PM

spman: Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.

The problem with this is that there has never really been a hugely successful console MMO. I guess the Monster Hunter stuff is successful enough, but even that is a bit of a niche fan base.


I seem to remember Everquest on the PS2 being a huge thing in its day and lasting for YEARS.
 
2014-07-05 11:23:45 PM
Just on Wii U, I've got more games than I can play. Add the 3ds and I'm swamped.
 
2014-07-05 11:41:15 PM
The main problem Nintendo has is marketing. Neither Microsoft nor Sony released any revolutionary upgrade to their current systems, but somehow they're still selling despite there is no killer app to own either one. I think there's a stratification occurring within the gamer community, because I thought I was a hardcore gamer during the PS3/360 era, but nowadays I just pick up cheapo Steam sale games and play them on PC.

Maybe I'm just an old man, but I've lost the tribal sense of brand loyalty and this new breed of gamers and the corporate people who market to them are frightening to me. I'm just a caveman lawyer, this sort of rebranding of things I already fell for seem strange and frightening to me.
 
2014-07-05 11:42:51 PM
Game drought?

Between the Wii U and 3DS I can't keep up.  I still don't see a game worth buying Ps3 or Xbox for.  PC covers most anything they have.
 
2014-07-05 11:54:35 PM
Of the many, many techniques video game journalists have mastered for making themselves look stupid, the oldest and most reliable is called "doubting Nintendo."

Read more:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-smug-predictions-that-were-hilariously- w rong/#ixzz36enoe2DD

i.crackedcdn.com
 
2014-07-06 12:01:00 AM
Nintendo's one of the most fiscally solvent companies around. They could release Virtual Boy repeats for thirty years and still have cash to burn.

/don't approve of their consoles since the GCN
//but they do make the best first party games
 
2014-07-06 12:02:42 AM

RoxtarRyan: spman: Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.

The problem with this is that there has never really been a hugely successful console MMO. I guess the Monster Hunter stuff is successful enough, but even that is a bit of a niche fan base.

WoW, Secret World, Everquest, Ultima Online to name a few, and aside from WoW and Ultima, those other ones didn't have a pre-existing fanbase. With Pokemon, taking 4 or 5 positions out of the top 40 selling games of all time, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that a Pokemon MMO would friggin' explode unit sales for Nintendo and become the #1 MMO in the world in no time flat. If they were real smart, they would release a full-blown version on the WiiU, and a "lite" version on the 3DS, like Sony did with the Pocketstation in Japan. Push sales of the 3DS for those who don't have it and want to get their fix on the go, and push tons of WiiU units for people who want the full game.

I just recently played it (wanted to see what all the hubbub was about), so I got it along with the Zelda game for the 3DS, and kiddy story aside... It's a fun, addicting game. I highly discourage completionists from playing it, since I've heard people can spend months on end without getting 100% completion on the game. And as ann MMO? Nintendo will have another golden goose on their hands.


I hope they keep creating top down 3ds Zelda's as it was great... and the completionist stuff wasn't a bunch of crap that relied on street pass or that stupid pictobox or really random drops... that I recall.
 
2014-07-06 12:07:06 AM

spman: there has never really been a hugely successful console MMO.


Final Fantasy XI. 2 million active characters. Declared the most profitable game in the series history at one point.

Citations? Why yes, I haz them:

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/0904/topics_all.html

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/24/the-most-profitable-final-fan ta sy-of-all-time-is
 
2014-07-06 12:21:56 AM

RoxtarRyan: spman: Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.

The problem with this is that there has never really been a hugely successful console MMO. I guess the Monster Hunter stuff is successful enough, but even that is a bit of a niche fan base.

WoW, Secret World, Everquest, Ultima Online to name a few, and aside from WoW and Ultima, those other ones didn't have a pre-existing fanbase. With Pokemon, taking 4 or 5 positions out of the top 40 selling games of all time, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that a Pokemon MMO would friggin' explode unit sales for Nintendo and become the #1 MMO in the world in no time flat. If they were real smart, they would release a full-blown version on the WiiU, and a "lite" version on the 3DS, like Sony did with the Pocketstation in Japan. Push sales of the 3DS for those who don't have it and want to get their fix on the go, and push tons of WiiU units for people who want the full game.

I just recently played it (wanted to see what all the hubbub was about), so I got it along with the Zelda game for the 3DS, and kiddy story aside... It's a fun, addicting game. I highly discourage completionists from playing it, since I've heard people can spend months on end without getting 100% completion on the game. And as ann MMO? Nintendo will have another golden goose on their hands.


You understand that I said console MMO's, correct?
 
2014-07-06 12:24:51 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: spman: there has never really been a hugely successful console MMO.

Final Fantasy XI. 2 million active characters. Declared the most profitable game in the series history at one point.

Citations? Why yes, I haz them:

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/0904/topics_all.html

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/24/the-most-profitable-final-fan ta sy-of-all-time-is


The game was initially launched on PC's, later ported to consoles, and 98% of everyone who is or was playing it was doing so on a PC, not a console.
 
2014-07-06 12:30:07 AM
I enjoyed the WiiU for a short while, then it got boring and I decided I was fine with my PC and 360.

I still haven't figured out why I'd even bother with an Xbone or PS4. Nothing on them is making me think "Wow! I have to have that console to play this awesome game!"

Maybe the next Elder Scrolls (NOT online) or Red Dead game will bring me around, or maybe someone will make something new that really impresses me... Till them, I'll just keep playing the free games I get from Gold and enjoy the hell out of the Steam sales on the PC.
 
2014-07-06 12:36:19 AM
Maybe if Nintendo grew a pair of balls and stopped putting out pussy-wussy games that appeal to Soccer Moms, kids in hockey helmets, and Jay Leno fans, then maybe they might see some sales.
 
2014-07-06 01:02:12 AM

spman: You understand that I said console MMO's, correct?


Missed that part. Still, Everquest, Phantasy Star Online, FFXI are a couple that come to mind.
 
2014-07-06 01:21:44 AM

doloresonthedottedline: Of the many, many techniques video game journalists have mastered for making themselves look stupid, the oldest and most reliable is called "doubting Nintendo."

Read more:  http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-smug-predictions-that-were-hilariously- w rong/#ixzz36enoe2DD

[i.crackedcdn.com image 250x429]


Wow, how did that headline make it through editorial?
 
2014-07-06 01:24:56 AM

Nix Nightbird: I still haven't figured out why I'd even bother with an Xbone or PS4. Nothing on them is making me think "Wow! I have to have that console to play this awesome game!"


Same here, but also including the WiiU. Titanfall for the XBO fizzled farking quick in spite of the massive marketing for it, and there are no other exclusives out yet that are enticing enough to drop a few hundred bucks just to play them. I expect to get a XBO sometime maybe late late this year or spring next year though, because by then something should come up. But, as with any game or console, I hold my money till the marketing shiat storm subsides, the bugs get worked out, hardware is improved, and the games that were supposed to be "BEST #1 AAA TITLE EVAR OF ALL TIME!!!ELEVENTY!!" are revealed to be another mediocre waste of money.

For a prime example of that last one, see Watchdogs. Never read or heard so many critics be so disappointed in a game since Spore.
 
2014-07-06 02:05:41 AM

RoxtarRyan: Nix Nightbird: I still haven't figured out why I'd even bother with an Xbone or PS4. Nothing on them is making me think "Wow! I have to have that console to play this awesome game!"

Same here, but also including the WiiU. Titanfall for the XBO fizzled farking quick in spite of the massive marketing for it, and there are no other exclusives out yet that are enticing enough to drop a few hundred bucks just to play them. I expect to get a XBO sometime maybe late late this year or spring next year though, because by then something should come up. But, as with any game or console, I hold my money till the marketing shiat storm subsides, the bugs get worked out, hardware is improved, and the games that were supposed to be "BEST #1 AAA TITLE EVAR OF ALL TIME!!!ELEVENTY!!" are revealed to be another mediocre waste of money.

For a prime example of that last one, see Watchdogs. Never read or heard so many critics be so disappointed in a game since Spore.


The only games that are going to make me go next gen are ff15, KH3, and whatever the hell the ps4 dark souls game is (bloodbourne/project beast)
 
2014-07-06 03:17:12 AM

hammer85: RoxtarRyan: Nix Nightbird: I still haven't figured out why I'd even bother with an Xbone or PS4. Nothing on them is making me think "Wow! I have to have that console to play this awesome game!"

Same here, but also including the WiiU. Titanfall for the XBO fizzled farking quick in spite of the massive marketing for it, and there are no other exclusives out yet that are enticing enough to drop a few hundred bucks just to play them. I expect to get a XBO sometime maybe late late this year or spring next year though, because by then something should come up. But, as with any game or console, I hold my money till the marketing shiat storm subsides, the bugs get worked out, hardware is improved, and the games that were supposed to be "BEST #1 AAA TITLE EVAR OF ALL TIME!!!ELEVENTY!!" are revealed to be another mediocre waste of money.

For a prime example of that last one, see Watchdogs. Never read or heard so many critics be so disappointed in a game since Spore.

The only games that are going to make me go next gen are ff15, KH3, and whatever the hell the ps4 dark souls game is (bloodbourne/project beast)


I haven't played console games since they started optimizing for HDTV. It's one thing to make me buy a new gaming system, but when they started demanding that I buy a new TV that's when I drew the line. Why spend all that money on a new set when I can just use my computer to play video games in HD, in addition to watching movies and TV and, oh yeah, WORKING. Desktop computers can literally do everything. Can I use an Xbox or Playstation to code my projects in between gaming? Maybe if they allowed for keyboard input. Still doesn't justify shelling out the money for one of those power-draining plasmas, which I heard were going the way of the dodo anyway. The next generation of TVs they push at us will be more expensive, more complicated to get to work with gaming systems, and more of a power hog. FEH, I say. You can have your silly consoles.
 
2014-07-06 03:25:39 AM

RoxtarRyan: spman: You understand that I said console MMO's, correct?

Missed that part. Still, Everquest, Phantasy Star Online, FFXI are a couple that come to mind.

PSO

was the best time I ever spent on a game. Poured thousands of hours into it over my high school career. If I could find my Cube's memory card, I'd take a picture.

Also, I was one of the people who had the PS2 version of FFXI. Let me tell you something, it was a bulky, burdensome, janky, lagging piece of crap that was in every way inferior to the PC version. However, because the game was just that good, I don't regret a single second.

/TRAIN TO ZONE
//Got my Heaven Punisher on my third Seabed farm run
///That gun had next-to-no chance of ever dropping for an Oran
 
2014-07-06 03:57:13 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: It's one thing to make me buy a new gaming system, but when they started demanding that I buy a new TV that's when I drew the line.


#1, I don't know who is forcing you to buy anything, but you should probably report them to someone
#2, the 360 and PS4 came with a cable to be used on old school SD composite cables so you can use them on your old TV, and no console that I'm aware of had the requirement of being used with a plasma TV
 
2014-07-06 04:22:47 AM

Master Jason: Cpl.D: Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.

I don't know or do Pokemon, but this.  What little I know of that franchise tells me that would pretty much put their private cash copier on infinite repeat.

I can honestly say that I hope nothing like that ever comes out. I spent 6 years of my life addicted to world of Warcraft and I could only see bad things happening to my social life if Nintendo were to do that.


While a Pokemon MMO would be amazing, such things take an awful lot of time and development money to start up, which may be resources Nintendo doesn't have right now. While it also leaves a lot of room for expansion (personal crafting, different trainer classes - maybe if they teamed up with the people that wrote Pokemon Tabletop United, that'd give a bit more variety to it.

You also have to factor in constant content updates, patches etc. so it'd be a lot of work and you'd need to make a really compelling case beyond hypothetical sales/subscription volume to get them convinced, plus ensure that it all doesn't turn to shiat in the creation process.
 
2014-07-06 04:27:29 AM

Ghastly: If Nintendo is ever facing bankruptcy all they need to do is "Pokemon MMO".

It would be a money printer for whatever console they are currently making.


I'd buy that, and I've never pokemoned in my life.
 
2014-07-06 04:30:54 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Still doesn't justify shelling out the money for one of those power-draining plasmas, which I heard were going the way of the dodo anyway. The next generation of TVs they push at us will be more expensive, more complicated to get to work with gaming systems, and more of a power hog. FEH, I say. You can have your silly consoles.


You do realize that you can get a 50" off-brand 4k television for around $430 these days, so 1080p sets are basically given out as prizes in a Cracker Jack Box these days. Not to mention most everything is LCD with LED backlighting now, so a 50" modern TV uses about as much power as a 21" CRT television from back in the SD era (and if you had a Trinitron it was even more power hungry). Your knowledge of television technology is about a decade out of date.
 
2014-07-06 05:19:14 AM
B.L.Z. Bub:
I haven't played console games since they started optimizing for HDTV. It's one thing to make me buy a new gaming system, but when they started demanding that I buy a new TV that's when I drew the line. Why spend all that money on a new set when I can just use my computer to play video games in HD, in addition to watching movies and TV and, oh yeah, WORKING. Desktop computers can literally do everything. Can I use  Xbox or Playstation to code my projects in between gaming? Maybe if they allowed for keyboard input. Still doesn't justify shelling out the money for one of those power-draining plasmas, which I heard were going the way of the dodo anyway. The next generation of TVs they push at us will be more expensive, more complicated to get to work with gaming systems, and more of a power hog. FEH, I say. You can have your silly consoles.

You can just hook up your console to your pc screen. Every screen for the last 5 years or so has hdmi. I actually bought a tv now instead of a pc monitor cause i wanted to hook up analogue consoles to it.
You dont need an expensive plasma, and it all works by connecting an hdmi cable. If that is too complicated then you might want to get rid of your pc cause that usualy requires a lot more cables than a game console.
 
2014-07-06 05:23:48 AM

Fank: You can just hook up your console to your pc screen. Every screen for the last 5 years or so has hdmi. I actually bought a tv now instead of a pc monitor cause i wanted to hook up analogue consoles to it.
You dont need an expensive plasma, and it all works by connecting an hdmi cable. If that is too complicated then you might want to get rid of your pc cause that usualy requires a lot more cables than a game console.


What do you do for sound if your monitor doesn't have speakers?
 
2014-07-06 05:25:24 AM
B.L.Z. Bub: ....


Wait, you mean to say that you code for either a hobby or work but you find it too hard to connect a GAME CONSOLE to a TV?
 
2014-07-06 05:33:39 AM

Fank: B.L.Z. Bub: ....


Wait, you mean to say that you code for either a hobby or work but you find it too hard to connect a GAME CONSOLE to a TV?


No, numbnuts, I was saying I didn't want to waste money on an HDTV. I've never owned one, never bought into the hype.
 
2014-07-06 05:43:59 AM

Shedim: Fank: You can just hook up your console to your pc screen. Every screen for the last 5 years or so has hdmi. I actually bought a tv now instead of a pc monitor cause i wanted to hook up analogue consoles to it.
You dont need an expensive plasma, and it all works by connecting an hdmi cable. If that is too complicated then you might want to get rid of your pc cause that usualy requires a lot more cables than a game console.

What do you do for sound if your monitor doesn't have speakers?


Never saw a TV with no speakers, plus I have the audio patched through to my surround.
 
2014-07-06 05:47:44 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Fank: B.L.Z. Bub: ....


Wait, you mean to say that you code for either a hobby or work but you find it too hard to connect a GAME CONSOLE to a TV?

No, numbnuts, I was saying I didn't want to waste money on an HDTV. I've never owned one, never bought into the hype.


Nice discourse. Then what did you say about it being hard to connect?

Do you also still have a black and white screen? Improvements are so hyped and so overrated.
 
2014-07-06 05:55:32 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: I can just use my computer to play video games in HD, in addition to watching movies and TV and, oh yeah, WORKING.


Your caps seem to imply that the last item is more important than the first two.

Explain yourself immediately.
 
2014-07-06 06:17:32 AM
Mario Kart 8 is like flappy bird.  Good luck getting three gold stars on the 150cc Mirror.
 
2014-07-06 06:25:04 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Fank: B.L.Z. Bub: ....


Wait, you mean to say that you code for either a hobby or work but you find it too hard to connect a GAME CONSOLE to a TV?

No, numbnuts, I was saying I didn't want to waste money on an HDTV. I've never owned one, never bought into the hype.


The hype of HD?

Is it really hype if it's 100% of the market? Can you even buy a non-HD tv or a monitor that cannot display an HD signal anymore?

If you are anti-console, why are you posting in a console thread? Just curious.
 
2014-07-06 06:34:17 AM

isthisme: B.L.Z. Bub: Fank: B.L.Z. Bub: ....


Wait, you mean to say that you code for either a hobby or work but you find it too hard to connect a GAME CONSOLE to a TV?

No, numbnuts, I was saying I didn't want to waste money on an HDTV. I've never owned one, never bought into the hype.

The hype of HD?

Is it really hype if it's 100% of the market? Can you even buy a non-HD tv or a monitor that cannot display an HD signal anymore?

If you are anti-console, why are you posting in a console thread? Just curious.


I'm not anti-console. I'm anti-console-that-makes-me-purchase-an-expensive-new-TV. I realize it's now the norm, but I never fell in with the "norm". Didn't feel like spending the money. My old 13" SD TV sits on a shelf gathering dust. I play games on my laptop computer exclusively. I can also use my computer for work. That's my point: you can't do that with these console systems.
 
2014-07-06 06:46:41 AM
Long story short, If they were do make a Pokemon MMO for the Wii U, I would probably buy a Wii U.
 
2014-07-06 07:33:38 AM
The amount of shovelware that came out for the Wii makes me cautious about buying ANY game, other than Nintendo first party releases.  I picked up Darksiders II for WiiU for $20.  Excellent game.  I also tried Ninja Gaiden 3 ($20) and I thought it was a lame button masher.  Ebayed it and got my money back.  I saw Assassins Creed for $15, but I passed due to lack of time.  I waited for Madden 2013 to price drop before I got it.  What a pile of crap that one is.

Long story short...I'm done spending full price on a game with a risk of getting burned.  I'd rather have fewer games available with a higher percentage of good ones instead shelves full of games that I lost interest in too quickly.
 
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