dittybopper: Putin wouldn't be able to explain regular Army troops in Eastern Ukraine without admitting that he sent them there. And if things went badly, some would be captured or killed and identified as active duty Russian military. So I'm thinking they're paid ex-soldiers. They're not active duty, but they have the training still relatively fresh in their minds, and their getting their rubles (and probably they are doing it for the Rodina).
krackpipe: Mystery solved. Why would they do that?
Satanic_Hamster: dittybopper: Yeah. The actual Russian SF guys were the ones who did the infiltration and initial assaults, and they then quietly handed over the buildings to the expendables, the ones who could be abandoned without any real repercussions for Putin should he decide to pull out.Still, most of those expendables were still Russian citizens, with some regular army or ex-army.
iheartscotch: Satanic_Hamster: real_headhoncho: "Russian Special Forces"? If they were Russian Special Forces, they would be the ones kicking ass. These were assholes drunk with power and vodka that finally sobered up and realized how deep in shiat they really were,I don't think Russian soldiers are the GI Joe Supermen you might think they are.Russia's problem has always been it's front line guys. I've heard stories, from the 80's, of Russian troops trading samples of their tank reactive armor for cigarettes.Or, their planes icing over because their de-icer was alcohol based and somebody, we're looking at you Ivan, drank it all./ who knows if those stories are correct or the recollections of old soldiers who are ecstatic to have somebody to talk to// I volunteer at the VA sometimes
real_headhoncho: "Russian Special Forces"? If they were Russian Special Forces, they would be the ones kicking ass. These were assholes drunk with power and vodka that finally sobered up and realized how deep in shiat they really were,
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