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(BenSwann.com)   Albuquerque Police officer's lapel camera has its third malfunction, but this time during a shooting instead of the previous two times where he only beat people up. Coincidence?   (benswann.com ) divider line
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2014-07-05 04:29:24 PM  
Correlation not equal causation.
 
2014-07-05 05:00:54 PM  
Blame the manufacturer of the faulty camera, this poor cop has some serious bad luck.
 
2014-07-05 05:04:53 PM  
No
 
2014-07-05 05:35:26 PM  
...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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2014-07-05 05:38:03 PM  
"Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk." (Henry David Thoreau)
 
2014-07-05 05:38:12 PM  

JoieD'Zen: Blame the manufacturer of the faulty camera, this poor cop has some serious bad luck.


They are, or want to, but the ex chief is a consultant to the company and the city hired consultants to help the city in negotiations with the DOJ that also have ties with same company.

These guys are corrupt from the top down. There's even a link to the GOP's token Latina, Gov Martinez.
 
2014-07-05 05:38:23 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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Not sure what would be irrational about bashing cops like this who continually have convenient "malfunctions" with cameras and other evidence.
 
2014-07-05 05:38:35 PM  
I'd like to know how often these things "malfunction" as a whole before I become overly outraged. If these were the ONLY three times the camera failed to work then I'd say something appears to be fishy.
 
2014-07-05 05:39:36 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: No


yes. let's give him many more chances.

/really, no
 
2014-07-05 05:40:16 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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Is the DOJ report finding ABQ police unconstitutional use of force irrational?
 
2014-07-05 05:40:31 PM  
....and cue the irrational all cops are saints defenders in

Oh they're already here.
 
2014-07-05 05:40:56 PM  
New tech stuff, just got to work the bugs out.
 
2014-07-05 05:41:05 PM  

Boojum2k: KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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Not sure what would be irrational about bashing cops like this who continually have convenient "malfunctions" with cameras and other evidence.


No no you see, you're the bad guy here for not automatically giving a LEO the benefit of the doubt.  Cos I'm sure he's on the level and all.
 
2014-07-05 05:41:50 PM  
It's perfectly normal for the evidence to vanish when a cop tries to get away with acting out.

Nothing to worry about.
 
2014-07-05 05:42:34 PM  
Not only should cops have to wear body cameras, but if they discharge their firearms when it's off they should be fired and tried for interfering in a police investigation and tampering with evidence.

Cops are people, people can't be trusted.
 
2014-07-05 05:43:04 PM  
Cop in question seems to have a history if giving the most beneficial story for himself. He probably destroyed the battery clip himself and if he didn't he's in dereliction for not reporting it and getting a new one.
 
2014-07-05 05:43:09 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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as opposed to the irrational suspect bashing and shooting and.......
 
2014-07-05 05:43:43 PM  
We'll, on the bright side he'll have plenty of time to get it fixed on his paid administrative leave.
 
2014-07-05 05:44:03 PM  
Though it's set in Wyoming, isn't Longmire filmed in NM?  Put him on the case.
 
2014-07-05 05:44:19 PM  

Boojum2k: Not sure what would be irrational about bashing cops like this who continually have convenient "malfunctions" with cameras and other evidence.


Irrational to think that the opinion of a lowly civilian matters.
 
2014-07-05 05:46:02 PM  
I would support a taser malfunction that sets fire to his balls as a punishment for destroying evidence.
 
2014-07-05 05:46:22 PM  
Well, I love cops. They're best when you're hosting a grill party. I'll admit that all my friends think so to, but it doesn't matter how many friends I invite over, we can never seem to finish a whole one by ourselves.
 
2014-07-05 05:46:40 PM  
Evidence missing three times and a history of conflicting reports and yet there are people who will still justify the murdering of civilians. Willful idiots.
 
2014-07-05 05:47:01 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: We'll, on the bright side he'll have plenty of time to get it fixed on his paid administrative leave.


Unless of course he chooses to retire with full pay. The shame.
 
2014-07-05 05:48:17 PM  
No coincedence in a criminal investigation.
 
2014-07-05 05:49:09 PM  
"You have to wear this camera and record all of your activities.  This will help avoid instances of misconduct."
"What happens if the battery dies?"
"Nothing"
"What happens if there's a problem with the wire?"
"Nothing"
"What happens if the camera's aimed poorly?"
"Nothing"
"What happens if I just turn it off and kill people?"
"Not a damn thing"
"Great, thanks"
 
2014-07-05 05:52:00 PM  
I'm not against police using deadly force if the situation merits it, but nowadays police have shifted their measure of last resort to the normal modus operandi.

You see communities supporting them less and less.
 
2014-07-05 05:53:55 PM  

nyseattitude: Evidence missing three times and a history of conflicting reports and yet there are people who will still justify the murdering of civilians. Willful idiots.


Damitall, the term preferred by our government overlords is "useful idiots". Try to get it right comrade, or it's off to the re-education camp.
 
2014-07-05 05:54:48 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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Tell me Mr. Statist, do the jackboots you lick taste better before or after they've kicked an innocent person to death?  Or does it take the murder of a dog first to make them palateable?
 
2014-07-05 05:55:35 PM  

uttertosh: Well, I love cops. They're best when you're hosting a grill party. I'll admit that all my friends think so to, but it doesn't matter how many friends I invite over, we can never seem to finish a whole one by ourselves.


Hawaiian luau?
 
2014-07-05 05:58:48 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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And may the sacred baton of justice make repeated contact with your scull during a 'routine stop'. Just for science.
 
2014-07-05 06:00:06 PM  

nyseattitude: Evidence missing three times and a history of conflicting reports and yet there are people who will still justify the murdering of civilians. Willful idiots.


She stole a car and was running away. No wonder the officer felt his life was in danger.  He had to kill her.

And as for the camera, this kind of camera tech is so new, it just doesn't work if there is any jostling or running or shooting happening.  It's not like people who wear cameras while sky diving or skiing or in combat or whatever are able to get any useful images.  Um. Actually.....nevermind.......  maybe this guy sweats a lot and that's why the camera keeps malfunctioning?
 
2014-07-05 06:01:05 PM  
"Camera malfunctions" should be prima facie evidence tampering. The law should be that should such occur, the officer is stripped of immunity and any jury advised of such.

a few of those and camera will be able to survive a nuclear blast without malfunctioning.
 
2014-07-05 06:01:05 PM  
I can fully believe that the equipment is faulty. That would be about par for the course in any government agency. (This stuff is cheap! Great, buy lots of it! Who cares if there's no warranty!) And I can fully believe that, if equipment is going to fail in the way described, it would be during a fight or other physical altercation when the wires are likely to be twisted or pulled.

What I can't believe is that it would happen three times, to a guy with a history of beating suspects, and ONLY to him, repeatedly, at critical moments in the incidents, and for no apparent reason. Once is bad luck, twice is deliberate. This guy needs his balls in a vise.
 
2014-07-05 06:03:41 PM  
thenypost.files.wordpress.com

These things happen sometimes. Just some technological bad luck.
 
2014-07-05 06:04:58 PM  
Here is another example of how unreliable this fancy camera tech is.  The intense vibration of a helicopter, with the camera mounted on a guys head, who is being lowered by a winch.  Notice how the camera just shuts itself off.  Oh wait, it doesn't.


http://globalnews.ca/news/1432314/watch-daring-helicopter-rescue-in- wa shington-state-as-hiker-clings-to-cliff/
 
2014-07-05 06:06:43 PM  
Police party story:  When I was a lad living in an on-base dorm, we used to keep getting the police shutting down our parties every weekend.

It came to light that a cop in a neighboring dorm did not like the parties and was calling all the complaints in.  It further was revealed to us that the dorm that he lived in was composed exclusively of police.

Next weekend, we went up and down their hallways and invited all those farkers to our party.  We got more complaints (the parties had got larger and louder), but the cop car would pull up,  a few drunk SP's would go lean against it for a while, and away it would go. Never got shut down again!

I guess this is different from killing random people for fun, but it's the only story I have for this thread. ; p
 
2014-07-05 06:07:37 PM  
Albuquerque, NM- The Albuquerque Police Department is under scrutiny again after an investigation of APD officer Jeremy Dear ....

s9.postimg.org
 
2014-07-05 06:08:34 PM  
I could make a killing manufacturing little caps that cover the little camera and distorts the microphone (if it has one).

Of course, someone may have already done it and the Albuquerque police have already received their bulk order.
 
2014-07-05 06:10:56 PM  
This will all stop when the cops shoot at least five judges.
 
2014-07-05 06:12:49 PM  

fusillade762: I'd like to know how often these things "malfunction" as a whole before I become overly outraged. If these were the ONLY three times the camera failed to work then I'd say something appears to be fishy.



I can tell you from experience that its a LOT! Those cameras are all pieces of shiat. I couldnt tell you how many times Ive gotten into butt puckering situations and thought "Oh thank God my camera was on, its gonna save my ass" and then find out later it never started working. Its been so bad at my department most of us dont even bother putting them on anymore. Just got some new ones though that seem to work better, but theyre 10x bigger and as soon as you get into a scrap they fly off so it doesnt do much good.
 
2014-07-05 06:14:42 PM  
I admit I don't particularly like cops, especially when they're poking around in my slightly nefarious endeavors (speeding, washing cars in a drought, etc.), but I would not hesitate to call them in a true emergency.  However, stories like this make me reconsider just what constitutes an emergency more and more, especially when the good cops won't get rid of the bad ones.
 
2014-07-05 06:16:31 PM  
Albuquerque Police Chief Gorden Eden said

A quick googling didn't reveal a middle name, but I hope his parents had a sense of humor and it's "Of."
 
2014-07-05 06:19:46 PM  
If the IRS taught us anything, it is just perfect timing of failures in government hardware.
 
2014-07-05 06:21:06 PM  

gilatrout: JoieD'Zen: Blame the manufacturer of the faulty camera, this poor cop has some serious bad luck.

They are, or want to, but the ex chief is a consultant to the company and the city hired consultants to help the city in negotiations with the DOJ that also have ties with same company.

These guys are corrupt from the top down. There's even a link to the GOP's token Latina, Gov Martinez.


Yes. In a town that is controlled by liberals, the obvious villain is the GOP.
 
2014-07-05 06:21:17 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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Cue the boot licking before the 4th post.

Dude was turning his camera off before he committed crimes, 3 times.  He is a criminal.  You are a useful idiot.
 
2014-07-05 06:22:29 PM  

gilatrout: JoieD'Zen: Blame the manufacturer of the faulty camera, this poor cop has some serious bad luck.

They are, or want to, but the ex chief is a consultant to the company and the city hired consultants to help the city in negotiations with the DOJ that also have ties with same company.

These guys are corrupt from the top down. There's even a link to the GOP's token Latina, Gov Martinez.


Oh. And yes. The belief that there is only one Latino in the whole GOP is in no way racist. Liberals properly own all minorities.
 
2014-07-05 06:23:25 PM  

cherryl taggart: I admit I don't particularly like cops, especially when they're poking around in my slightly nefarious endeavors (speeding, washing cars in a drought, etc.), but I would not hesitate to call them in a true emergency.  However, stories like this make me reconsider just what constitutes an emergency more and more, especially when the good cops won't get rid of the bad ones.


The upside: The cops might shoot the guy who was trying to break in. The downside: They might shoot you instead.
 
2014-07-05 06:33:52 PM  

GORDON: KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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Cue the boot licking before the 4th post.

Dude was turning his camera off before he committed crimes, 3 times.  He is a criminal.  You are a useful idiot.


useful???

/'slpain luucee!
 
2014-07-05 06:34:57 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
 
2014-07-05 06:38:15 PM  
A .32 makes a fine throwdown weapon.

But it's not much good for anything else.

Just sayin'...
 
2014-07-05 06:45:42 PM  

foxyshadis: cherryl taggart: I admit I don't particularly like cops, especially when they're poking around in my slightly nefarious endeavors (speeding, washing cars in a drought, etc.), but I would not hesitate to call them in a true emergency.  However, stories like this make me reconsider just what constitutes an emergency more and more, especially when the good cops won't get rid of the bad ones.

The upside: The cops might shoot the guy who was trying to break in. The downside: They might shoot you instead.


Theyd be coming for cleanup. Guy breaking in wouldnt need shot. Hed already have been.
 
2014-07-05 06:46:17 PM  
Last image before the camera stops recording:

i1214.photobucket.com

/yes, I know the camera was filming cop's POV, not the perp's.
 
2014-07-05 06:50:13 PM  
i291.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-05 06:57:28 PM  

fusillade762: I'd like to know how often these things "malfunction" as a whole before I become overly outraged. If these were the ONLY three times the camera failed to work then I'd say something appears to be fishy.


The manufacturer has a basic report where they say they don't know why it wasn't working:

http://www.abqjournal.com/420842/news/maker-cant-say-why-camera-didn t- record.html

According to the report: Before the incident, the camera was powered on around 11:15 p.m. on April 20, then went off around 11:30 p.m., recording once. It was turned on again shortly after midnight, and went off again around 4 a.m., recording three times. It was turned on again around 4:15 a.m. and turned off a minute later without recording anything.
Neighbors heard shots fired around 5:45 a.m. on April 21, and Taser's log shows that the camera turned on at 5:15 and was on for about 30 minutes without recording anything, before turning off at 5:46 a.m. It then turned on again at 5:54 a.m. for only a few seconds. Seconds later, it turned on again, until it shut down at 6 a.m.
After 4:15 a.m., the "system did not receive any record commands," the report states.
The report says that the camera's cable was damaged, but that it was fully functioning. The camera was missing a clip that could have helped prevent the cord from disconnecting from the camera, the report states.
While the system can tell if an officer commands the camera to stop recording, it cannot tell if the power is disconnected intentionally or because the cable disconnected, the report states.


As for "Is this the only times it wasn't working?"  Eh, probably not.  These are the times that people went to pull video from the incident and discovered that it wasn't working.  The real test would be to use the camera and try to pull video from all the days that are just him doing regular police work with no incidents or complaints, and see if all the video of him doing routine traffic stops, stop & chat, and other things is there.  If there are huge gaps in the video during routine days where he doesn't have anything to hide, that's an indicator that they have serious problems with their camera hardware.
 
2014-07-05 07:07:07 PM  

emonk: A .32 makes a fine throwdown weapon.

But it's not much good for anything else.

Just sayin'...


Yeah - a small caliber P.O.S. like that just screams "throwaway gun". Adds to the general fishiness of the whole affair.
 
2014-07-05 07:15:00 PM  

MyRandomName: gilatrout: JoieD'Zen: Blame the manufacturer of the faulty camera, this poor cop has some serious bad luck.

They are, or want to, but the ex chief is a consultant to the company and the city hired consultants to help the city in negotiations with the DOJ that also have ties with same company.

These guys are corrupt from the top down. There's even a link to the GOP's token Latina, Gov Martinez.

Yes. In a town that is controlled by liberals, the obvious villain is the GOP.


You mean the one a Republican mayor?  In a state with a Rep governor?
 
2014-07-05 07:17:29 PM  

foxyshadis: cherryl taggart: I admit I don't particularly like cops, especially when they're poking around in my slightly nefarious endeavors (speeding, washing cars in a drought, etc.), but I would not hesitate to call them in a true emergency.  However, stories like this make me reconsider just what constitutes an emergency more and more, especially when the good cops won't get rid of the bad ones.

The upside: The cops might shoot the guy who was trying to break in. The downside: They might shoot you instead.


Either way, Rover's gonna get it.
 
2014-07-05 07:19:58 PM  
You know, the camera could be a piece of crap AND the cop can be a douchebag killer pig.

They're not mutually exclusive.
 
2014-07-05 07:21:44 PM  
gilatrout:
There's even a link to the GOP's token Latina, Gov Martinez.

Racist much?

Asshat.
 
2014-07-05 07:30:35 PM  
mrmopar5287:
As for "Is this the only times it wasn't working?"  Eh, probably not.  These are the times that people went to pull video from the incident and discovered that it wasn't working.  The real test would be to use the camera and try to pull video from all the days that are just him doing regular police work with no incidents or complaints, and see if all the video of him doing routine traffic stops, stop & chat, and other things is there.  If there are huge gaps in the video during routine days where he doesn't have anything to hide, that's an indicator that they have serious problems with their camera hardware.

Or a history of the cop farking with the hardware for cover-ass purposes . . . .
 
2014-07-05 07:32:10 PM  

aseras: "Camera malfunctions" should be prima facie evidence tampering. The law should be that should such occur, the officer is stripped of immunity and any jury advised of such.

a few of those and camera will be able to survive a nuclear blast without malfunctioning.


Cop here, flame on.

Now, I've never had to wear a body camera and so long as it didn't interfere with my movements (i.e. wasn't overly bulky or heavy), I'd have no problem wearing one on duty.  I would also stipulate that it shouldn't be required that I record myself taking bathroom breaks.

I do have a camera mounted in my patrol car, that is physically impossible for me to tamper with.  I cannot activate my emergency lights without it coming on, so every traffic stop is automatically recorded, whether I like it or not (I love it, when people file false complaints it exonerates me).  I guess I could put tape over the lens, but that'd be pretty obvious.

If the unit itself malfunctions, why should that be held against me?  I'd say that in an average shift it doesn't malfunction, but when the temperatures outside are in the 90's, and I start my shift at 6pm, it's not uncommon for it to take a little bit of time for it to cool down.  Same with my radar and my computer.  There are also times where the damn thing just stops working altogether for god knows why.  In that case I have to take my car to the company who installs all our equipment and get it fixed. When that happens I make sure to leave a paper trail with my supervisors and the tech's at the company so that there's not a question as to whether or not I was able to figure out how to make it stop working.

Like anything else, if an officer intentionally tampers with his equipment to erase evidence or something, hold him accountable.  But if it's a bonafide equipment issue, that's not my fault.

I will add that in THIS case, the officer seems to be intentionally or deliberately causing his equipment to malfunction and should probably lose his job.  I would be interested to know, though, how often the cameras that are the same make/model of his co-workers malfunction.  If he works in a particularly terrible part of town and his camera has malfunctioned three times in a year, while others malfunction much more frequently, that might be cause to reconsider the camera system they're using.  That's probably not the case here, though.
 
2014-07-05 07:35:10 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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I'm a huge supporter of law enforcement: but the ABQ cops are completely out of control. They're barely one step away from Chicago summer of 1968.
 
2014-07-05 07:46:27 PM  
mjohnson71:

I'm a huge supporter of law enforcement: but the ABQ cops are completely out of control. They're barely one step away from Chicago summer of 1968.

You mean they are beating people up for having sideburns?

Actually, not such a bad idea.  Beat up the neck beard people too.
 
2014-07-05 07:49:22 PM  

Frantic Freddie: gilatrout:
There's even a link to the GOP's token Latina, Gov Martinez.

Racist much?

Asshat.


It's not racist when a liberal does it. Geesh! It's like you guys never learn anything
 
2014-07-05 07:52:50 PM  

donh: Or a history of the cop farking with the hardware for cover-ass purposes . . . .


It very well could be.  It appears the Taser cameras have a method that logs actual switch activation so that it can be known after an incident that an officer physically turned the camera off via the switch.  Intention or accidental depends on how hard the switch is to activate, so there should probably be a physical lock on the switch to prevent that kind of thing.

Unplugging the wire?  That appears to be the workaround that people in the know have discovered to blame a lack of video on "hardware problems."  When I worked in customer service for Verizon Wireless there was a training guy who taught us that all the VOIP buttons we pressed on our computer screens were logged, but if we physically yanked the Ethernet cord out of the back of our phone set it would be a "technical glitch" that couldn't be tracked.  This was basically training to tell us when we had a total arsehole of a customer that we wanted to get rid of we could hang up on them by just unplugging the cable from the back of the phone.  And since the calls were recorded the advice given was "Hang up on them when you are talking, right in the middle of a sentence, because no one would believe you would purposefully hang up the phone while you were talking."
 
2014-07-05 07:55:25 PM  

mjohnson71: KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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I'm a huge supporter of law enforcement: but the ABQ cops are completely out of control. They're barely one step away from Chicago summer of 1968.


Yeah it's really bad there. I hope DOJ can clean up at least a little--there seems to be a culture of abuse that no civilized society should tolerate.
 
2014-07-05 08:05:18 PM  
If my camera kept malfunctioning like that, I'd be pretty pissed off.  I'd probably have to rough somebody up too.
 
2014-07-05 09:19:29 PM  

fusillade762: I'd like to know how often these things "malfunction" as a whole before I become overly outraged. If these were the ONLY three times the camera failed to work then I'd say something appears to be fishy.


They dont malfunction. When was the last time your webcam or call phone camera malfunctioned? Never probably. What the cops are wearing is basically a webcam.

Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt once or twice is not a good idea, but somewhat understandable. But now he has gone and murdered someone.

When a cop commits a crime the punishment should be many times worse than if someone else did. This cop should be put to death. Preferably in a very painful and humiliating way.
 
2014-07-05 09:47:36 PM  

rkiller1: Though it's set in Wyoming, isn't Longmire filmed in NM?  Put him on the case.


I'd forgotten about that show until you mentioned it. Now I see they're halfway through season 3. Thanks for the reminder!
 
2014-07-05 10:47:05 PM  
As Dan Hedaya said in "Running Scared" "Name another job iin which they let you shoot people."
Cops have it rough, dealing with all kinds of crap, for little pay. I think in order to keep headcount up, police departments may overlook small issues, but  not so much on the big ones. I surmise an incident like this, that has happened repeatedly, should cause consternation, at least.
Three times? One "Officer". I use the term loosely.
 I think using "B" grade cops is coming to roost.
 
2014-07-05 10:53:09 PM  

cherryl taggart: I admit I don't particularly like cops, especially when they're poking around in my slightly nefarious endeavors (speeding, washing cars in a drought, etc.), but I would not hesitate to call them in a true emergency.  However, stories like this make me reconsider just what constitutes an emergency more and more, especially when the good cops won't get rid of the bad ones.


Nah, cops are perfectly reliable in a emergency.  Don't have an emergency?  Call them, and pretty soon you will.
 
2014-07-06 12:20:09 AM  
I saw this movie on Netflix, I give it three out of five stars.
 
2014-07-06 01:10:02 AM  
If his 'malfunctions' are way out of line with the norm then fire his ass without a pension.
 
2014-07-06 01:37:53 AM  
Some weird-ass deflection in this thread.
 
2014-07-06 01:50:42 AM  

mrmopar5287: If there are huge gaps in the video during routine days where he doesn't have anything to hide, that's an indicator that they have serious problems with their camera hardware.


From the description of the log, it sounds like the camera only records stuff if the cop asks it to.  What's the point?
 
2014-07-06 03:37:19 AM  

Spicy_McHaggus: I can tell you from experience that its a LOT! Those cameras are all pieces of shiat. I couldnt tell you how many times Ive gotten into butt puckering situations and thought "Oh thank God my camera was on, its gonna save my ass" and then find out later it never started working. Its been so bad at my department most of us dont even bother putting them on anymore. Just got some new ones though that seem to work better, but theyre 10x bigger and as soon as you get into a scrap they fly off so it doesnt do much good.



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Get helmet cams?  It's not like any police department ever said "no" when offered paramilitary gear, after all.  Why not turn this macho fetish to society's advantage for once?
 
2014-07-06 04:04:35 AM  

420Gabriel: fusillade762: I'd like to know how often these things "malfunction" as a whole before I become overly outraged. If these were the ONLY three times the camera failed to work then I'd say something appears to be fishy.

They dont malfunction. When was the last time your webcam or call phone camera malfunctioned? Never probably. What the cops are wearing is basically a webcam.

Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt once or twice is not a good idea, but somewhat understandable. But now he has gone and murdered someone.

When a cop commits a crime the punishment should be many times worse than if someone else did. This cop should be put to death. Preferably in a very painful and humiliating way.


It's a piece of electronic equipment, it's going to malfunction.  Hell, the camera on my iphone hasn't worked for months, and webcams go down all the freaking time for no reason.

The question is, are the malfunctions this officer is experiencing the result of something he is doing, or faulty equipment.
 
2014-07-06 06:43:51 AM  
Here is a suggestion:
Pool up all the cops' retirement funds, pay any lost lawsuits from that fund.

Pretty soon those 'few' bad apples will be pushed over that thin blue line.
 
2014-07-06 09:46:33 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: 420Gabriel: fusillade762: I'd like to know how often these things "malfunction" as a whole before I become overly outraged. If these were the ONLY three times the camera failed to work then I'd say something appears to be fishy.

They dont malfunction. When was the last time your webcam or call phone camera malfunctioned? Never probably. What the cops are wearing is basically a webcam.

Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt once or twice is not a good idea, but somewhat understandable. But now he has gone and murdered someone.

When a cop commits a crime the punishment should be many times worse than if someone else did. This cop should be put to death. Preferably in a very painful and humiliating way.

It's a piece of electronic equipment, it's going to malfunction.  Hell, the camera on my iphone hasn't worked for months, and webcams go down all the freaking time for no reason.

The question is, are the malfunctions this officer is experiencing the result of something he is doing, or faulty equipment.


The bodycams are built like the 400$ flashlights used for mounting to a firearm. A 10$ flashlight would break. A 400$ flashlight is built to withstand the recoil and use of the weapon, even the filament in the bulb.

They cameras are built to withstand the rigors of the job. The running, the tackling of the perp the smashing of the head into the ground, the kneeing in the back etc...
 
2014-07-06 11:28:58 AM  

flondrix: From the description of the log, it sounds like the camera only records stuff if the cop asks it to.  What's the point?


There are things you wouldn't want recorded:

Cops in locker rooms or bathrooms
Cops meeting with confidential informants
Cops in places that can't be recorded, like private residences
A variety of other things

Taser appears to have the camera log when the user specifically turns the camera off with the switch so you can tell if it is an intentional camera deactivation.  That's important so that if anyone asks the cop why he/she turned the camera off, they should have a good explanation.
 
2014-07-06 12:10:00 PM  

KeeptheChief: ...and cue the irrational cop-bashing in

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2...

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Yes....irrational.   BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA... .


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That was cute.
 
2014-07-06 12:37:41 PM  
Seems to me a simple precaution against "camera failure" is simply to have two or more cameras.  Yes, it's more expensive, but quite possibly less so than a single payout from a lawsuit.  One camera fails, sure, it's a malfunction.  All of them?  That's a little suspicious.
 
2014-07-06 01:36:07 PM  

cgremlin: Seems to me a simple precaution against "camera failure" is simply to have two or more cameras.  Yes, it's more expensive, but quite possibly less so than a single payout from a lawsuit.  One camera fails, sure, it's a malfunction.  All of them?  That's a little suspicious.


Specifically, this particular cop could have been equipped with extra cameras after the first fortuitous "camera malfunction".
 
2014-07-06 01:37:43 PM  

mrmopar5287: There are things you wouldn't want recorded:

Cops in locker rooms or bathrooms
Cops meeting with confidential informants
Cops in places that can't be recorded, like private residences
A variety of other things

Taser appears to have the camera log when the user specifically turns the camera off with the switch so you can tell if it is an intentional camera deactivation. That's important so that if anyone asks the cop why he/she turned the camera off, they should have a good explanation.


It would appear that this cop has been turning off the camera whenever the exact sort of thing these cameras were intended to record is about to happen.  He might as well not be wearing any camera at all.
 
2014-07-06 01:49:40 PM  

flondrix: It would appear that this cop has been turning off the camera whenever the exact sort of thing these cameras were intended to record is about to happen.  He might as well not be wearing any camera at all.


The report from Taser states that he's not turning the camera off with the switch because that is logged when the user does it.  I think they are hinting that he's just yanking the cable out of the camera, or that it's loose and not being properly retained with a clip that could hold it in place.  It's open for debate whether the department is like a lot of government places and is issuing shiatty equipment that is missing parts, or if the guy is doing it intentionally.
 
2014-07-06 03:22:55 PM  
It was missing a clip that helps prevent the camera from disconnecting from the battery.

Build a better rat trap and they will build a better rat.
 
2014-07-06 06:14:58 PM  
Nothing to see here citizen. Move along.
 
2014-07-06 08:52:54 PM  
A US president was run out of office for an eighteen minute gap in a recording but we can't fire a cop who does this repeatedly?
 
2014-07-07 03:12:57 AM  

Giltric: HideAndGoFarkYourself: 420Gabriel: fusillade762: I'd like to know how often these things "malfunction" as a whole before I become overly outraged. If these were the ONLY three times the camera failed to work then I'd say something appears to be fishy.

They dont malfunction. When was the last time your webcam or call phone camera malfunctioned? Never probably. What the cops are wearing is basically a webcam.

Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt once or twice is not a good idea, but somewhat understandable. But now he has gone and murdered someone.

When a cop commits a crime the punishment should be many times worse than if someone else did. This cop should be put to death. Preferably in a very painful and humiliating way.

It's a piece of electronic equipment, it's going to malfunction.  Hell, the camera on my iphone hasn't worked for months, and webcams go down all the freaking time for no reason.

The question is, are the malfunctions this officer is experiencing the result of something he is doing, or faulty equipment.

The bodycams are built like the 400$ flashlights used for mounting to a firearm. A 10$ flashlight would break. A 400$ flashlight is built to withstand the recoil and use of the weapon, even the filament in the bulb.

They cameras are built to withstand the rigors of the job. The running, the tackling of the perp the smashing of the head into the ground, the kneeing in the back etc...


Find me a single weapon mounted light that is built to last throughout the rigors of the job over an extended period of time.  I've used the TLR-1, X300 and several others in my career, and all of them malfunction at some point due to various factors.  Body mounted cameras are no different.  There are ALWAYS going to be isntances where these types of things malfunction.  Which is why the important question is whether or not this officer's camera is malfunctioning more, or differently, than anyone elses, and whether or not he's doing something to make it malfunction.
 
2014-07-07 03:14:59 AM  

mrmopar5287: flondrix: From the description of the log, it sounds like the camera only records stuff if the cop asks it to.  What's the point?

There are things you wouldn't want recorded:

Cops in locker rooms or bathrooms
Cops meeting with confidential informants
Cops in places that can't be recorded, like private residences
A variety of other things

Taser appears to have the camera log when the user specifically turns the camera off with the switch so you can tell if it is an intentional camera deactivation.  That's important so that if anyone asks the cop why he/she turned the camera off, they should have a good explanation.


Private residences can be recorded by police as long as they're legally in the residence.  The wiretapping and recording laws in every state include exceptions for police investigations.
 
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