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(Daily Mail)   Motivational speaker's $5 million Connecticut mansion burns to the ground. He will now have to live in a van down by the river   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 43
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2014-07-04 05:54:06 PM  
Where does that go on the line?

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2014-07-04 07:45:59 PM  
Bought it at the height of the market, now worth about half of what he paid for it?  Hmmm, I bet his insurance company is going to do a pretty thorough investigation on that one.
 
2014-07-04 08:15:31 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Bought it at the height of the market, now worth about half of what he paid for it?  Hmmm, I bet his insurance company is going to do a pretty thorough investigation on that one.


Issa should hold hearings.
 
2014-07-04 08:19:05 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Bought it at the height of the market, now worth about half of what he paid for it?  Hmmm, I bet his insurance company is going to do a pretty thorough investigation on that one.


In CT it's common for town appraisals used for tax purposes to run at anywhere from 50-75% of actual market value, at least mine usually does. Still - motivational speaker, cars and pets out OK, yeah they'll be sniffing at this one.

Initial cause being blamed on polyurethane foam insulation spontaneously combustion in the attic according to NBC.
 
2014-07-04 08:25:34 PM  
 
2014-07-04 08:30:59 PM  

jasonvatch: Where does that go on the line?

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Done in one.
 
2014-07-04 08:40:18 PM  

Outtaphase: In CT it's common for town appraisals used for tax purposes to run at anywhere from 50-75% of actual market value, at least mine usually does


Is that right? Where my mom lives (not CT), it seems that they use an appraisal that runs about 150% of actual market value. Nice.
 
2014-07-04 08:42:16 PM  
You just KNOW we'll never hear the end of this...
 
2014-07-04 08:47:03 PM  
After seeing some pretty average homes in the bay area go for half a million, a three to five million dollar "mansion" does not impress me.
 
2014-07-04 08:52:27 PM  

proteus_b: Is that right? Where my mom lives (not CT), it seems that they use an appraisal that runs about 150% of actual market value. Nice.


Before the bubble appraisals had been steady and reliably low. They appraised again right at the bubble peak, and I thought they lost their minds. I appealed right after the burst and won. It's been reliably reasonable since then.
 
2014-07-04 08:54:00 PM  
I'm not a home builder, but I'd think if you were building a 5 million dollar home, you might want to leave off one of the seven bathrooms and install a top of the line fire suppression system instead.
 
2014-07-04 08:59:55 PM  
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From what I've heard, he's been using his book, not for reading, but for rolling doobies!! He's gonna be doing a lot of doobie-rolling when he's living in a van down by the river!

/severely doubts his commitment to Sparkle Motion.
 
2014-07-04 09:06:12 PM  
28 days.  6 hours.  42 minutes.  12 seconds.

That's how long it's been since I've seen a Donnie Darko reference on Fark.
 
2014-07-04 09:09:31 PM  

jasonvatch: Where does that go on the line?

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Came for a Darko reference; leaving satisfied :)
 
2014-07-04 09:13:49 PM  
Perhaps there's someone he can talk to, to get him started rebuilding.
 
2014-07-04 09:14:14 PM  

proteus_b: Outtaphase: In CT it's common for town appraisals used for tax purposes to run at anywhere from 50-75% of actual market value, at least mine usually does

Is that right? Where my mom lives (not CT), it seems that they use an appraisal that runs about 150% of actual market value. Nice.


does she have a nice basement?
 
2014-07-04 09:15:19 PM  
Always look on the bright side of life......dodo..dododododo....
 
2014-07-04 09:21:44 PM  

namegoeshere: I'm not a home builder, but I'd think if you were building a 5 million dollar home, you might want to leave off one of the seven bathrooms and install a top of the line fire suppression system instead.


Except builders usually have three goals, build what the customer wants, build it to code so as to not get sued, and profit.  Whatever started the fire doesn't even concern him, it was more that a couple years after they bought it.
 
2014-07-04 09:26:06 PM  
Sad?
 
2014-07-04 09:34:05 PM  
We la-de-FREAKIN-dah!
 
2014-07-04 09:36:56 PM  
well someone was feeling motivated.
 
2014-07-04 09:40:19 PM  

doofusss: proteus_b: Outtaphase: In CT it's common for town appraisals used for tax purposes to run at anywhere from 50-75% of actual market value, at least mine usually does

Is that right? Where my mom lives (not CT), it seems that they use an appraisal that runs about 150% of actual market value. Nice.

does she have a nice basement?


dude; show some respect! That's his mom you're talking' about!!
 
2014-07-04 09:42:55 PM  
What a tacky piece of shiat.

Its amazing what 'new-money' considers good taste.
 
2014-07-04 09:43:46 PM  
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2014-07-04 09:53:13 PM  

Breygon: doofusss: proteus_b: Outtaphase: In CT it's common for town appraisals used for tax purposes to run at anywhere from 50-75% of actual market value, at least mine usually does

Is that right? Where my mom lives (not CT), it seems that they use an appraisal that runs about 150% of actual market value. Nice.

does she have a nice basement?

dude; show some respect! That's his mom you're talking' about!!


probably has a lower level entrance for ingress/egress
 
2014-07-04 10:00:27 PM  
looking at the pictures,

what the hell
keep much c-4 in your basement?
 
2014-07-04 10:05:51 PM  
After looking at the Before photos the fire improved the structure.
 
2014-07-04 10:07:48 PM  

Outtaphase: TuteTibiImperes: Bought it at the height of the market, now worth about half of what he paid for it?  Hmmm, I bet his insurance company is going to do a pretty thorough investigation on that one.

In CT it's common for town appraisals used for tax purposes to run at anywhere from 50-75% of actual market value, at least mine usually does. Still - motivational speaker, cars and pets out OK, yeah they'll be sniffing at this one.

Initial cause being blamed on polyurethane foam insulation spontaneously combustion in the attic according to NBC.


This makes it even more suspicious - how was it concluded that it was caused by spontaneous combustion? There doesn't seem to be anything left of the attic to leave a trail to examine. I will allow that it's possible and even likely if an idiot spray-applied a bunch of polyurethane recently (it heats up a fair bit as it cures, and putting too thick a layer on at once traps that heat inside, sometimes leading to fires), but once it's set, spontaneous combustion is pretty unlikely.

And if it did happen spontaneously, how did the people, pets, and even cars make it out OK? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad no people or pets were injured (and even that no cars were harmed), but a fire starting in an uninhabited area without warning isn't the sort of situation that typically has a happy ending.

But anyway, I really don't understand the McMansion building philosophy - if you're building something that big (and presumably expensive), couldn't they build it out of something other than wood and plastic? Or as namegoeshere mentioned, couldn't they install a fire suppression system? For new construction, a new sprinkler system's cost is comparable to the floor finishings.
 
2014-07-04 10:08:51 PM  
Firefighters struggled to contain the fire, which was reported at 4.45pm, and crews had to bring in more than 20 water tankers because Middlebury, where the property is located, has no mains supply.

Note to self: don't buy a house where they can't put out a fire because of a lack of water.
 
2014-07-04 10:13:20 PM  

eKonk: And if it did happen spontaneously, how did the people, pets, and even cars make it out OK? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad no people or pets were injured (and even that no cars were harmed), but a fire starting in an uninhabited area without warning isn't the sort of situation that typically has a happy ending.


I actually don't think this is very suspicious by itself. That's a big place. If it starts at one end and you and the cars are in the other, you'll get plenty of warning even if it spreads it the attic for a while.

eKonk: For new construction, a new sprinkler system's cost is comparable to the floor finishings.


It's becoming mandatory by code in a few locations, even.
 
2014-07-04 10:34:31 PM  

evaned: eKonk: And if it did happen spontaneously, how did the people, pets, and even cars make it out OK? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad no people or pets were injured (and even that no cars were harmed), but a fire starting in an uninhabited area without warning isn't the sort of situation that typically has a happy ending.

I actually don't think this is very suspicious by itself. That's a big place. If it starts at one end and you and the cars are in the other, you'll get plenty of warning even if it spreads it the attic for a while.


Fair point. Now that I think about it, it was a daytime event when no one would be expected to be sleeping. I'm also nosing around some of the photos and see that the garages do not share any attic space with the main house, so time may have favored salvage there.  Still, I would like to know how someone evidently narrowed the cause down to spontaneous combustion.

eKonk: For new construction, a new sprinkler system's cost is comparable to the floor finishings.

It's becoming mandatory by code in a few locations, even.


I just don't get why someone would take the attitude that they would spend a million or more on a building and refuse to pay the (relatively limited) extra to protect it.  If I could afford it, I'd put a sprinkler system in my crap shack, and I'm not even that fond of the place.
 
2014-07-04 10:41:19 PM  

Bin_jammin: jasonvatch: Where does that go on the line?

FEAR-------------------------------------------------LOVE

Done in one.


It's a sign of the sad, sick world we live in that this obvious reference wasn't in the headline.  When our Lord is resurrected, submitter will definitely not be eaten first.
 
2014-07-04 10:47:56 PM  

eKonk: evaned: eKonk: And if it did happen spontaneously, how did the people, pets, and even cars make it out OK? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad no people or pets were injured (and even that no cars were harmed), but a fire starting in an uninhabited area without warning isn't the sort of situation that typically has a happy ending.

I actually don't think this is very suspicious by itself. That's a big place. If it starts at one end and you and the cars are in the other, you'll get plenty of warning even if it spreads it the attic for a while.

Fair point. Now that I think about it, it was a daytime event when no one would be expected to be sleeping. I'm also nosing around some of the photos and see that the garages do not share any attic space with the main house, so time may have favored salvage there.  Still, I would like to know how someone evidently narrowed the cause down to spontaneous combustion.

eKonk: For new construction, a new sprinkler system's cost is comparable to the floor finishings.

It's becoming mandatory by code in a few locations, even.

I just don't get why someone would take the attitude that they would spend a million or more on a building and refuse to pay the (relatively limited) extra to protect it.  If I could afford it, I'd put a sprinkler system in my crap shack, and I'm not even that fond of the place.


I'm not sure if I'd want a sprinkler system.  True, in the event of a catastrophic fire it could save the house, but in the event of a small containable fire that sets it off it's going to essentially destroy the interior of the home and all of your possessions through water damage.

I suppose you could go halon, but then if you're inside you'll suffocate.

If I had millions of dollars to build a house I'd do the whole thing, exterior walls, roof, interior walls, ceilings, etc, out of concrete and metal.  No drywall, nothing to burn, other than perhaps some non-structural wood accents for a little visual warmth.
 
2014-07-04 10:59:20 PM  

jasonvatch: Where does that go on the line?

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nicely done...

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2014-07-04 11:37:53 PM  
I haven't seen a headline that made me bust-out laughing in awhile; thanks subby!
 
2014-07-05 12:06:28 AM  

was that place built out of paper mache, soaked in oil?


it went to ash pretty damn fast


these mansions are all about looks, and keeping the wife happy (for da moment)

 
2014-07-05 12:38:33 AM  
For a motivational speaker re: Entrepreneur, he's Grade A dumb to live in a high tax state ..
 
2014-07-05 01:06:18 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: in the event of a small containable fire that sets it off it's going to essentially destroy the interior of the home and all of your possessions through water damage.


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I'm not going to say there's no possibility for some water damage from the sprinkler -- either it going off on a small fire or just a plain leak. (Though in the latter case -- do you only reluctantly have any plumbing at all in your house?)

But:
1) Only sprinkler heads near enough to the fire to feel a substantial amount of heat will activate. It's not even really like smoke alarms, where if you burn something in the kitchen and the smoke wafts upstairs you'll set off the alarm there. In particular, sprinkers are not activated based on smoke.

2) I'm not sure about this, but I suspect that small fires, e.g. a frying pan catches fire, wouldn't put out enough heat to trigger a sprinkler head, giving you time to stick a lid on it or grab an extinguisher or whatever.
 
2014-07-05 02:13:18 AM  
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2014-07-05 04:15:20 AM  
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2014-07-05 07:33:21 AM  

evaned: TuteTibiImperes: in the event of a small containable fire that sets it off it's going to essentially destroy the interior of the home and all of your possessions through water damage.



I'm not going to say there's no possibility for some water damage from the sprinkler -- either it going off on a small fire or just a plain leak. (Though in the latter case -- do you only reluctantly have any plumbing at all in your house?)

But:
1) Only sprinkler heads near enough to the fire to feel a substantial amount of heat will activate. It's not even really like smoke alarms, where if you burn something in the kitchen and the smoke wafts upstairs you'll set off the alarm there. In particular, sprinkers are not activated based on smoke.

2) I'm not sure about this, but I suspect that small fires, e.g. a frying pan catches fire, wouldn't put out enough heat to trigger a sprinkler head, giving you time to stick a lid on it or grab an extinguisher or whatever.


Thank Hollywood for making everyone think that when sprinklers go off they set off every one in the entire building.
 
2014-07-05 07:50:22 AM  
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2014-07-05 12:58:56 PM  

Outtaphase: In CT it's common for town appraisals used for tax purposes to run at anywhere from 50-75% of actual market value, at least mine usually does. Still - motivational speaker, cars and pets out OK, yeah they'll be sniffing at this one.


I live in CT, and the tax appraisal is 85% of what I could get for it today.  I really wish it were half.  But then the town wouldn't have such good schools and such, so I don't complain about it too loudly.
 
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