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(Orlando Sentinel)   Police shut down a multi-million dollar theft ring that specialized in stealing expensive: A) electronics; B) cars; C) baby formula   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 61
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2014-07-04 08:27:41 PM  

abhorrent1: basemetal: Babbys are big business.

Absolutely. I bought a door gate for my outside garage access door to keep my dogs from getting out when I had the garage open. It was a fancy one that had a foot pedal to open it.  I got it at petsmart for $40. The exact same gate, from the exact same company was at target. But instead of puppies,  it had a picture of a baby on the packaging and it was $79.

Put a picture of a baby on anything and is easily doubles if not quadruples what you can sell it for. Why is what is basically a folding table (changing table) cost $200?
Because people that have kids lose their minds and will pay anything.


Insurance

If it's marketed for babies, no matter what it is, formula or gates, the insurance carrying costs to the manufacturer are at a whole other level.
 
2014-07-04 08:29:31 PM  

onyxruby: One of my first jobs involved working security concerns for one of the biggest gas station chains in the US. When we suspected corruption at a franchisee's station we would set up hidden cameras the franchisee didn't know about. Since it was a business we could break in (locksmith and police notified) and set up our own independent cameras.

Almost every single week we caught people unloading baby formula in the back door, sometimes by the pallet. The crooked station owners would buy it from thieves and sell it to unsuspecting customers. Biggest we busted was a franchisee with about 65 stations all involved in fraud.

When we busted them we would send out a tanker and de-sign the station for breaking the franchise agreement rather than risk the negative publicity. Franchisee's didn't dare push the issue as they knew they had criminal charges available if they made a fuss. Sadly they had dedicated crews to do this we did it so often.

/crooked owners would skim the gas by an 1/8th of a gallon per fill
//never ever buy your gas from a de-signed gas station - there's a reason that former name brand is now missing.


Seriously, you should do an AMA. I would love to hear these stories, much like my various retail pharmacy stories.
 
2014-07-04 08:32:46 PM  

dBoone: abhorrent1: basemetal: Babbys are big business.

Absolutely. I bought a door gate for my outside garage access door to keep my dogs from getting out when I had the garage open. It was a fancy one that had a foot pedal to open it.  I got it at petsmart for $40. The exact same gate, from the exact same company was at target. But instead of puppies,  it had a picture of a baby on the packaging and it was $79.

Put a picture of a baby on anything and is easily doubles if not quadruples what you can sell it for. Why is what is basically a folding table (changing table) cost $200?
Because people that have kids lose their minds and will pay anything.

Insurance

If it's marketed for babies, no matter what it is, formula or gates, the insurance carrying costs to the manufacturer are at a whole other level.


There's also a regulatory aspect as well. Infant food/medicine & dairy products are the only 2 items sold in the United States that are universally illegal to sell expired. On top of that, there is a ton of inspection mandates that have to be followed.
 
2014-07-04 10:52:37 PM  

DubtodaIll: Babwa Wawa: DubtodaIll: Formula is worse than bottled water.

You sound knowledgeable.  Tell us more.

I'm speaking from a stupid thing to spend your money on standpoint. Bottled water costs more per unit than gasoline. Though you do actually have to go to a water source to get it for cheap. Mothers make milk for free.


I don't know where you buy your water from, but around here you can get it for a dollar a gallon or if you bring your own jugs to those machines it's only 25 cents per gal. I'm sure if you added up the cost when buying the single serve bottles it would be more than gas, but if you drink a lot of bottled water and buy it in the single serve then you deserve to overpay.
 
2014-07-04 11:06:38 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I suspect that the FDA is really picky about formula making, it is highly subject to recall, and the insurance on it if some babies get killed must be ridiculous.

We have a customer that makes it at work, and just to go in their offices I had to watch their safety video and take a safety test.  I didn't get anywhere near the manufacturing plant.


That makes sense. Can you imagine the fallout and lawsuits if baby formula made here killed babies like the stuff in china did over there.
 
2014-07-04 11:52:11 PM  
i stole that once, as a cokehead

lifted it over my head at the security bars
and no beep occurred.


success!

/didn't do it again
//just lotsa other shiat
 
2014-07-05 12:17:22 AM  

Babwa Wawa: DubtodaIll: I'm speaking from a stupid thing to spend your money on standpoint. Bottled water costs more per unit than gasoline. Though you do actually have to go to a water source to get it for cheap. Mothers make milk for free.

Like, tell me how all mothers make enough milk for their babies to thrive.  Tell me how all babies can tolerate their mothers' milk.    Most importantly, tell me how mothers never have to give up breastfeeding when they go back to work, because all workplaces give mothers the time and a place to pump.

The reality is that breastfeeding works really well for women who can take the first year or so off, or who have professional, family-friendly workplaces. Namely, it works well for mothers who can likely afford formula.  It doesn't work as well at all for working class mothers.  Why the holy hell do you think so many lower class people (in and out o the US) formula feed, for f*ck's sake?

Which makes the pricing model for formula all that much more abhorrent.   The poorer the area, the more expensive formula is, because it's well known that working mothers have no choice.  It's disgusting.


And while you're at it, let's talk about adoption.  Your body hasn't had the normal 9 or so months to prepare, so formula is pretty much the only choice.  And this is after your budget is already blown from all the price-gouging that goes on in the adoption "industry".

\ I swear, if those people actually cared about the kids, they wouldn't ask you to empty your bank account right when you're taking on a dependent...
 
2014-07-05 12:35:19 AM  

davynelson: i stole that once, as a cokehead

lifted it over my head at the security bars
and no beep occurred.


success!

/didn't do it again
//just lotsa other shiat


I've been clean for 14 years but we were organised with lookouts, hand signals, driver and van started and ready to go.


We had a big list of all the doable places within 75 miles and used to walk out with entire shopping carts full clearing 8 - 12 cases easy, and often times twice a day.

Two people would just pick up the cart and dump it in the van which was already in gear.
The people working the store were always well dressed right down to jacket and tie, so walking past the courtesy desk with a full cart and a clip board became a regular thing.
Just act like you're supposed to be doing it, and nobody bats an eyelash.

Meanwhile the schmuck two aisles over trying to shove a beer down his pants is being swarmed by store security.

Each run used to net us $300 - $600, but security was different back then and the most important signal was 'abort' because being you're not concealing anything they can't do anything if you leave empty handed.
 
2014-07-05 12:55:33 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: inglixthemad: CruJones: JeffMD: OP seems to be the stupid one here, you know how absurdly overpriced baby formula is? It is worse then printer ink! And it ain't just Florida that is doin it.

I sometimes see it locked up, like cigarettes or cough medicine.

Yeah, it's something that's stolen at a ridiculous rate. So glad my wife was able to breast feed all our kids. Thus far my daughters have been lucky that way as well. Well, lucky is relative. Breast feeding is cheaper, but very time consuming.

Well if you had let the kids have a turn at the breasts once in a while, maybe your wife could have finished up faster.  ;>p


'Doctor, Mrs. Robinson just called and said the baby seems to be preferring the left breast.'

'So, what's the problem nurse? Just tell her it isn't a big deal as long as the baby is eating.'

'Well, so does Mr. Robinson.'

'Tell Mrs. Robinson and her husband that baby has first dibs.'
 
2014-07-05 12:38:39 PM  
I remember a few years ago I kept hearing stories about people getting busted for stealing large amounts of laundry detergent. One guy they busted had a garage full of it and $80k in cash.
 
2014-07-05 04:56:35 PM  

jayphat: Seriously, you should do an AMA. I would love to hear these stories, much like my various retail pharmacy stories.


I don't know if I have enough for that alone, but I've got some interesting ones. Thanks
 
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