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(Mother Nature Network)   If somebody is selling a 1966 Cobra in excellent condition with new tires for only $10,000, it might be a scam   (mnn.com) divider line 52
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2014-07-04 10:00:57 AM  
'At a price greater than a $12,000 asking price, for instance, the chances of the ad being fake are only 0.3 percent. "You have a 10 times greater chance of being struck by lightning," Ly said.'

I have a 3.3% chance of being struck by lightning?
 
2014-07-04 10:43:32 AM  
"Some guy died in the car and now there's a funny smell coming from the back seat ..."
 
2014-07-04 10:44:46 AM  
Nissan made a 360Z?
 
2014-07-04 10:52:02 AM  
PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.
 
2014-07-04 10:52:44 AM  
posting them on Craigslist, then claiming to be out of the country and needing the money for, say, a $3,000 2013 Lexus coupe, wired to him overseas

If you fall for this, you deserve to lose the money.
A)How you get keys?
B)How would you get a valid title?

Idiots.
 
2014-07-04 10:54:01 AM  

cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.


wut?
 
2014-07-04 10:54:56 AM  

cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.


Snerk. My brother in law just got absolutely fleeced on an Outback so I'm getting a kick..
 
2014-07-04 10:54:58 AM  
If you're going to spend $10K and don't insist on seeing the car in person first, you're an idiot and deserve to be scammed. And anyone that believes they can get a genuine Cobra for $10 is an idiot and deserves to be scammed. People are so farking stupid.
 
2014-07-04 10:55:05 AM  
Anyone who falls for such a Craigslist scam shouldn't be allowed to use the internet without supervision.
 
2014-07-04 11:02:44 AM  
Did anyone else notice how TFA was one long advertisement for a car sales referral site?

KTHXBAI
 
2014-07-04 11:04:34 AM  
2014 MK3 Cobra, slightly fancier than the original 1984 version.

i179.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-04 11:04:35 AM  

webcamCat: cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.
wut?


What? Did I miss something by not reading the article, because why would that matter?
If someone puts in their ad that the car has "new tires" it means that the thing is such a lemon that it will barely leave the parking lot. New tires is the selling point of last resort. It means that the tires were the least expensive thing to fix, just to get the beast out of there.
 
2014-07-04 11:05:31 AM  
I had a 1966 Mustang.  Didn't the Cobra come after that model year?
 
2014-07-04 11:09:57 AM  

cryinoutloud: webcamCat: cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.
wut?

What? Did I miss something by not reading the article, because why would that matter?
If someone puts in their ad that the car has "new tires" it means that the thing is such a lemon that it will barely leave the parking lot. New tires is the selling point of last resort. It means that the tires were the least expensive thing to fix, just to get the beast out of there.


One of the possibilities is that the car has been in a serious accident causing frame damage.  Frame damage can cause uneven tire wear that the seller might try to cover up with new tires.
 
2014-07-04 11:12:00 AM  

advex101: I had a 1966 Mustang.  Didn't the Cobra come after that model year?


1963 I think was the first year of the Cobra.
 
2014-07-04 11:12:23 AM  

advex101: I had a 1966 Mustang.  Didn't the Cobra come after that model year?


may be referring to a Shelby AC Cobra.  originally introduced in 1962
 
2014-07-04 11:14:59 AM  

Glitchwerks: cryinoutloud: webcamCat: cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.
wut?

What? Did I miss something by not reading the article, because why would that matter?
If someone puts in their ad that the car has "new tires" it means that the thing is such a lemon that it will barely leave the parking lot. New tires is the selling point of last resort. It means that the tires were the least expensive thing to fix, just to get the beast out of there.

One of the possibilities is that the car has been in a serious accident causing frame damage.  Frame damage can cause uneven tire wear that the seller might try to cover up with new tires.


ok.  I'd post a car for sale and mention the tires if they were new just as a way of saying "hey, plus you're not going to need to drop another couple of hundred on top of list for new tires"
 
2014-07-04 11:16:03 AM  

Kerr Avon: 2014 MK3 Cobra, slightly fancier than the original 1984 version.

[i179.photobucket.com image 850x452]

Wut?
There is a new version?
 
2014-07-04 11:21:48 AM  

Spanky McStupid: "Some guy died in the car and now there's a funny smell coming from the back seat ..."


And a hilarious weekend at his place coming up! Weekend at Bernie's XVII: If the Cobra's a rockin', a dead guy's doin' somethin' shockin' so don't come a necroknockin' ...as the saying goes.
 
2014-07-04 11:22:37 AM  

cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.


or a snake with new tires. Fool me once...
 
2014-07-04 11:25:30 AM  

cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.


This.  I hate having a car that chews through tires.
 
2014-07-04 11:27:56 AM  

rikkards: Kerr Avon: 2014 MK3 Cobra, slightly fancier than the original 1984 version.

[i179.photobucket.com image 850x452]
Wut?
There is a new version?


There is indeed, David Braben OBE still in charge, currently in Private Beta.
https://elite.frontier.co.uk/
 
2014-07-04 11:29:56 AM  

jayphat: posting them on Craigslist, then claiming to be out of the country and needing the money for, say, a $3,000 2013 Lexus coupe, wired to him overseas

If you fall for this, you deserve to lose the money.
A)How you get keys?
B)How would you get a valid title?
Idiots.


No no no no no, wait. That's not fair. That's not the whole story. His son is a prince who is in prison and this is just a temporary payment to help get his son out. He's a prince. He has the money, it's just tied up in another country. You'll get the car keys. Here, let me quote:

"Though we have neither seen nor met each other, the information we gathered from an associate who has worked in your country has encouraged and convinced us that with your sincere assistance, this transaction will be properly handled with modesty and honesty to a huge success within two weeks. The said CAR KEYS are in a state fund and therefore this exchange requires a total confidentiality. Thus, if you are willing to assist us move this fund out of Congo, you can contact me through my email address above with your telephone, fax number and personal information to enable us discuss the modalities and what will be your share (percentage) for assisting us. I must use this opportunity and medium to implore You to exercise the utmost indulgence to keep this Matter extraordinarily confidential, Whatever your Decision, while I await your prompt response."
 
2014-07-04 11:40:34 AM  

whatdoyouexpect: jayphat: posting them on Craigslist, then claiming to be out of the country and needing the money for, say, a $3,000 2013 Lexus coupe, wired to him overseas

If you fall for this, you deserve to lose the money.
A)How you get keys?
B)How would you get a valid title?
Idiots.

No no no no no, wait. That's not fair. That's not the whole story. His son is a prince who is in prison and this is just a temporary payment to help get his son out. He's a prince. He has the money, it's just tied up in another country. You'll get the car keys. Here, let me quote:

"Though we have neither seen nor met each other, the information we gathered from an associate who has worked in your country has encouraged and convinced us that with your sincere assistance, this transaction will be properly handled with modesty and honesty to a huge success within two weeks. The said CAR KEYS are in a state fund and therefore this exchange requires a total confidentiality. Thus, if you are willing to assist us move this fund out of Congo, you can contact me through my email address above with your telephone, fax number and personal information to enable us discuss the modalities and what will be your share (percentage) for assisting us. I must use this opportunity and medium to implore You to exercise the utmost indulgence to keep this Matter extraordinarily confidential, Whatever your Decision, while I await your prompt response."


I used to have a manager that wrote like that.
His memos were legendary failures.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-04 11:42:29 AM  
That lightning stat is the scariest part of the article. I already went out today and lived. That means I have a 6% chance of being struck tomorrow.
 
2014-07-04 11:44:53 AM  

Kerr Avon: rikkards: Kerr Avon: 2014 MK3 Cobra, slightly fancier than the original 1984 version.

[i179.photobucket.com image 850x452]
Wut?
There is a new version?

There is indeed, David Braben OBE still in charge, currently in Private Beta.
https://elite.frontier.co.uk/


:O I wants to be there.
I may give up Minecraft FTB for it
 
2014-07-04 11:47:34 AM  
And if while heading to a meeting place to look at the car, you hear banjo music. Turn around and don't look back.
 
2014-07-04 12:03:37 PM  

Dr. Speed: whatdoyouexpect: jayphat: posting them on Craigslist, then claiming to be out of the country and needing the money for, say, a $3,000 2013 Lexus coupe, wired to him overseas

If you fall for this, you deserve to lose the money.
A)How you get keys?
B)How would you get a valid title?
Idiots.

No no no no no, wait. That's not fair. That's not the whole story. His son is a prince who is in prison and this is just a temporary payment to help get his son out. He's a prince. He has the money, it's just tied up in another country. You'll get the car keys. Here, let me quote:

"Though we have neither seen nor met each other, the information we gathered from an associate who has worked in your country has encouraged and convinced us that with your sincere assistance, this transaction will be properly handled with modesty and honesty to a huge success within two weeks. The said CAR KEYS are in a state fund and therefore this exchange requires a total confidentiality. Thus, if you are willing to assist us move this fund out of Congo, you can contact me through my email address above with your telephone, fax number and personal information to enable us discuss the modalities and what will be your share (percentage) for assisting us. I must use this opportunity and medium to implore You to exercise the utmost indulgence to keep this Matter extraordinarily confidential, Whatever your Decision, while I await your prompt response."

I used to have a manager that wrote like that.
His memos were legendary failures.


Complet with random capitalizations? That's where the success of the Nigerian scam emails lies, it's got to be.
 
2014-07-04 12:22:13 PM  
The buyer and the seller:
 
2014-07-04 12:23:02 PM  

Badmoodman: The buyer and the seller:


Umm, thanks Fark
 
2014-07-04 12:26:42 PM  
Another big clue is when they advertise the car as local with a picture of lush green grass and palm trees when there is no such thing within a thousand miles of your location.
 
2014-07-04 12:38:54 PM  
I have made several attempts to buy a Honda Gold Wing for $4000 from the infamous "Kathy Shaus" but have never been able to get "her" take the bait.
 
2014-07-04 12:50:11 PM  

cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.


When I was going to sell my car it was a month before inspection time and it was time for the tires that came on the car to go. I advertised it would have new tires. They were expensive.
 
2014-07-04 12:50:53 PM  
I frequently get letters from scam artists on craig's, and I always play along.

I have collected several bogus checks from $1800 to $4500, all made out to "CHINGA SUE MADRE,"  which is Tex--Mex for: "Skrew yer mother!"

The scammers do not dare to use USPS so they have to express mail it through FedEx, at about $30 per unit.

I love to waste their time and money.

Another good one is to give them the name and address of someone you hate, have them send the check to their address.  They just might be stupid enough to cash it, in which case they are out plenty of money.
 
2014-07-04 12:59:30 PM  
I did a screen print of this one because it was such a good example of a blatant scam. At the time, that car would have been worth $30,000 at minimum. On one hand, the guy who kept posting it deserved a cock punch. On the other, anyone who responded to it deserved to be fleeced. If something seems to good to be true....

i61.tinypic.com
 
2014-07-04 01:07:55 PM  
This is probably the guy selling it 

www.lassothemovies.com
 
2014-07-04 01:39:18 PM  
I found it annoying how often independent used car lots (i.e. not part of a new car dealership) would post fake ads to lure you onto the lot.
Oh, we just sold that but let me show you something else... FARK YOU!
 
2014-07-04 02:05:39 PM  

Invisible Dynamite Monkey: cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.
When I was going to sell my car it was a month before inspection time and it was time for the tires that came on the car to go. I advertised it would have new tires. They were expensive.


I used to see cars advertised as having "Thule racks" on them (Subarus, of course). I didn't know what they were, so I thought that they must be something super special. No, it's a farking plastic box. An expensive plastic box, but still....

If you bought very expensive tires for your car and put them in the ad, that's a little different. But if you put that it has very expensive rims, I wouldn't go near it. That means you're 25 and you beat the shiat out of it.

/Also if you don't have the price right there in the ad, I'm not calling you. Preferably mileage too.
//I'm very picky about my used car ads
 
2014-07-04 02:16:57 PM  

cryinoutloud: webcamCat: cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.
wut?

What? Did I miss something by not reading the article, because why would that matter?
If someone puts in their ad that the car has "new tires" it means that the thing is such a lemon that it will barely leave the parking lot. New tires is the selling point of last resort. It means that the tires were the least expensive thing to fix, just to get the beast out of there.


Not necessarily.

Take my 73 f250 camper special. It originally had 16.5 tires/rims. Those are farking expensive to buy because it's a farked up size. It would have cost me 1200 just for the rubber. I used the 1200 to buy 16inch rims and tires. When selling, that is a god damned feature because no one will ever have to deal with that nonsense.
 
2014-07-04 02:32:20 PM  

cryinoutloud: PROTIP: If someone is trying to sell a car with "new tires" there's something seriously wrong with it.


I've also found that bragging about service is another red flag.

"Just serviced!"

Serviced for what?

"Service!"
 
2014-07-04 03:12:02 PM  
When I was in the Marines and arrived at my first duty station at MCAS Beaufort, I heard an interesting story about one of my fellow marines  - he was in Hilton Head and was offered a Porsche 911 for $1000. The woman selling it was upset at her cheating husband (who had put it in her name for tax reasons), and not being able to pass up the deal, handed over a check and took possession of the car. Unfortunately, he wrecked the car after a few months.

I don't really have any reason to doubt the story... it was confirmed by a few other friends, and the Marine in question wasn't the sort of person to make up stories. By the time I had met him, in fact, he had stopped his partying ways and become more spiritual (as in, church).

Down the road from my parents was a guy who used to build cars for Hot Rod magazine articles... he used to sell those cars pretty damn cheap, too.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-04 03:20:17 PM  
LesserEvil

That's a variation of a story listed as legend on snopes: http://www.snopes.com/love/revenge/porsche.asp. It has probably happened in reality too. I have seen it on Fark, but possibly from Daily Mail or similar source known to make stuff up.
 
2014-07-04 04:20:38 PM  

ZAZ: LesserEvil

That's a variation of a story listed as legend on snopes: http://www.snopes.com/love/revenge/porsche.asp. It has probably happened in reality too. I have seen it on Fark, but possibly from Daily Mail or similar source known to make stuff up.


Yes, I am aware of the urban legend aspect... but as I said, this was firsthand... and was confirmed by several other Marines in our unit. This took place in the mid-80s, and I think this was a woman he met at one of the hot spots on the island (we used to hit up a few of the meat markets there, and older women - as in late 20s early 30s - were pretty easy for us Marines to pick up).

I imagine the woman was probably inspired by the story.
 
2014-07-04 06:01:33 PM  
This HAS to be the Cobra with an in-line 4 cylinder, with a 6 speed automatic transmission. Does it have power windows & mirrors too?
 
2014-07-04 07:56:11 PM  

olddinosaur: I frequently get letters from scam artists on craig's, and I always play along.

I have collected several bogus checks from $1800 to $4500, all made out to "CHINGA SUE MADRE,"  which is Tex--Mex for: "Skrew yer mother!"

The scammers do not dare to use USPS so they have to express mail it through FedEx, at about $30 per unit.

I love to waste their time and money.

Another good one is to give them the name and address of someone you hate, have them send the check to their address.  They just might be stupid enough to cash it, in which case they are out plenty of money.


If you hate anyone that much it would probably be best just to kill yourself. We don't need you.
 
2014-07-04 08:06:44 PM  

olddinosaur: I frequently get letters from scam artists on craig's, and I always play along.

I have collected several bogus checks from $1800 to $4500, all made out to "CHINGA SUE MADRE,"  which is Tex--Mex for: "Skrew yer mother!"

The scammers do not dare to use USPS so they have to express mail it through FedEx, at about $30 per unit.

I love to waste their time and money.


I'm trying to sell a Comanche on CL and I've been getting tons of scams.  Texts mostly, lots of offers to buy things from out of state and have a "mover" come pick it up, questions if I'll accept a cashier's check by mail, sketchy things like that.  I've sold cars before on CL and it's never been this bad.  I seriously cannot fathom why this vehicle out of all of them is being targeted so strongly for the scam crowd.  Hell, I'm not even asking $1k for the thing given how rough it is.  You'd figure they'd try to scam me out of something more valuable.

Of course, that's honestly not as maddening as the texts I get asking "what's the lowest amount you're willing to sell this for?"  No, asshole, that's not how bartering works.  You convince me why the price I've set for this vehicle isn't low enough.  I'm not going to lowball myself.  Not that it matters really, since the answer to that question is "the price listed in the ad".  I didn't pull that number out of thin air.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-04 08:11:55 PM  
that's honestly not as maddening as the texts I get asking "what's the lowest amount you're willing to sell this for?"

Give them a number higher than the price in the ad.

Pressed for an explanation, call the difference a service fee.
 
2014-07-04 10:10:23 PM  

ZAZ: that's honestly not as maddening as the texts I get asking "what's the lowest amount you're willing to sell this for?"

Give them a number higher than the price in the ad.

Pressed for an explanation, call the difference a service fee.


Which is why I don't sell on CL. fark those cheapskates.
 
2014-07-04 11:37:22 PM  

Spanky McStupid: "Some guy died in the car and now there's a funny smell coming from the back seat ..."


My neighbor shot himself in the head while he was standing by his trunk. He fell inside his trunk and bled out.
Even after the fire department hosed the trunk liner out and the car was cleaned, it still had a funky smell to it. His wife took the car back to the dealership and turned the car in off it's lease but didn't tell them what had happened.
 
2014-07-05 12:00:37 AM  
There were no Shelby Cobras with the 260 V-8 in 1966. Ford stopped making the 260 in 1964. It was only used on the earliest Cobras and was replaced by the 289 High Performance version in 1963.
 
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