Benevolent Misanthrope: But when I was a gun owner, before I moved to Canada, I was informed by members of the Revolutionary War Veterans, a couple militia types and some really odd guys at the range that if I ever wanted a suppressor or silencer, they weren't hard to come by. You can get them at the gun show, if you know the right guy. Certainly from a home sale.
teenytinycornteeth: You know, this line might make you seem less creepy if the "task" you were trying to accomplish was "how to transport water" with nothing but a roll of paper or "how to create a shelter out of acorns". That would be "fun". But your "task" is how to instill panic in the populace and kill large numbers of innocent civilians. I guess I'm missing where the "fun" comes in.
Benevolent Misanthrope: Ummm... human nature?
dittybopper: DrBenway: I'm pretty sure the point is how much ditty appears to relish such exercises ("fun" he himself noted) that triggers the "that's a little creepy, hoss" reaction in some people. And it's not like his comments in this one thread are seen in any sort of a vacuum here either. The people you're wanting us to compare him to do it for a living, not as some pleasurable fantasy activity pursued in generic public forums online.I was offered a position doing pretty much this sort of thing, or, perhaps more accurately, I was informed that there was a Beltway Bandit who was looking for someone like me, and the person offered to put me in touch.Difficulty: I would have had to move. And I hate moving. I like living in my little podunk town. I've got roots there. I coach Little League, I'm a Cub Scout leader, I have family reasonably nearby, so does the distaffbopper. I've got a decent job that I like, and that will provide the littlebopper free college tuition.Plus, I'd probably be under some NDA, so I couldn't talk about it publicly. And that kind of rubs me the wrong way too. One way that we learn more is by discussing things. When you limit the amount of discussion, or limit the discussion to just a few people, you don't learn anywhere near as much.Also, make no mistake about it: The people getting paid to do it also enjoy it, or they wouldn't be doing it. Just because they are paid to do it doesn't make them any less "creepy".Bottom line, though, I don't see anything wrong with essentially wargaming in a very public manner what the other side might do.
Skyd1v: I would have to say that there is going to be little - to - no illegal NFA sales at any gun show
Benevolent Misanthrope: OK, I admit I was working on off-hand information - but then, these things aren't advertised in standard outlets.I will change my statement to "a suppressor (not hard to get hold of, especially for someone who isn't too worried about legalities)".
cryinoutloud: is this the kid or the old guy? I might have a small amount of sympathy for the kid. Not enough to let him out of prison yet, mind you, but maybe someday.I don't actually care enough to check, though.
DrBenway: So... professionals brainstorming with other professionals brings poorer results than some guy wanking it for fun with, at best, a handful of amateurs in the middle of non-specific online forums? Okay, you go with that rationale.
Cdr.Murdock: akula:Of the shows I've been to, I don't even think there's many legal NFA sales at a gun show. Reason being, it's NOT cash and carry. The Class 3 SOT FFLs I've seen usually just have stuff on display and will discuss the process with you and invite you to come by to get things rolling.4) Wait.5) Wait.That's not happening at a gun show.This is why I never bothered with the SOT stamp. Between that sheit clogging up your safe, and the customers getting all antsy in the panntsy about getting their new semi verboten today, it's just not worth the hassle.
hej: I guess we've become a country where it's OK to persecute children.
dittybopper: This text is now purple: dittybopper: You know what a pro-gun rights advocate I am, and I'm just not seeing how being armed can help against a random single sniper shot.And I've *TRIED* to think about ways it might help. And I can't think of any possible way it could help outside of the sniper team making a serious operational mistake.Like Whitman?[dambreaker.files.wordpress.com image 244x183]Whitman wasn't really a sniper attack in the sense of a single shot followed by a tactical retreat, like the DC Sniper attacks. That was more akin to a typical mass shooting, though at longer ranges than most.
ZAZ: Let his head out today.Let his body out next week.
Skyd1v: Benevolent Misanthrope: OK, I admit I was working on off-hand information - but then, these things aren't advertised in standard outlets.I will change my statement to "a suppressor (not hard to get hold of, especially for someone who isn't too worried about legalities)".The fact that you would admit you were working off of bad/incorrect information and post a retraction means you have a higher level of integrity than I have come to expect in some of these threads.I'm going to have to go ahead and favorite you with a "Rational" tag. What color do you want?/except green. I saves that for the trolls
mongbiohazard: FLMountainMan: FLMountainMan: Shaggy_C: Random people get shot in drive-by's in the hood on a daily basis; you only ever hear about it when it becomes excessive (like 40+ people killed on any given Chicago weekend).Soon as it happens to rich white people at gas stations, though...watch out, national headlines.Except none of the victims were rich white people.I mean seriously, this is how ignorant you are. The victims on the first day were a landscaper, a part-time taxi driver named Premkumar Walekar, a Latina babysitter/maid, a woman vacuuming a Dodge Caravan, and a 72 year old retired carpenter named Pascal.You're forgetting the guy shot the evening before - the first person shot in Montgomery County - was a 55 year old, well-off white guy. And they shot a few well-off white folks in VA after they left MoCo. So it really was a mix of people. Well-to-do white folks among them.That said, I don't have any doubt that if all the victims had been working class folks - like the poor taxi and bus drivers that got shot - that the reaction would have been the same. The problem that scared folks was just the mysterious nature of the shootings - totally random times, totally random targets, totally random places, totally anonymous shooter, no known motivation...
dittybopper: LavenderWolf: dittybopper: LavenderWolf: If the DC sniper/Al Qaeda synthesis happens, it'll be the Republicans with a worthwhile solution, for once.Arm f*cking EVERYONE.Wouldn't help: We're talking a single shot from, well, could be *ANYWHERE*. Arming everyone isn't going to help in that situation, because even if everyone is open carrying an AR-15 like those OCTards*, what are they going to shoot at? Each other?The whole idea of a sniper attack like that isn't like shooting up a mall or school, where you go down in a blaze of glory and take as many as you can with you. It's a single shot from some hidden place that could in theory be hundreds of yards away (or maybe only 50), and because the sniper is hidden and there is only a single shot, you have no idea where the shot came from.Who would you shoot back at?*That's going to be my new name for them.It's not really a "this will stop the attacks" solution so much as "this makes these types of attack much more risky" solution. Like how vaccines work. A vaccine doesn't kill a raging viral infection, but, it can prevent infections from really taking root.You know what a pro-gun rights advocate I am, and I'm just not seeing how being armed can help against a random single sniper shot.And I've *TRIED* to think about ways it might help. And I can't think of any possible way it could help outside of the sniper team making a serious operational mistake.
dittybopper: hej: I guess we've become a country where it's OK to persecute children.Oh, come on, you can do better than that. It's like you weren't even trying.
vernonFL: IF he was just a kid who was brainwashed, then I would consider it.Has he been checked out by mental heath experts?
natas6.0: I won money in the pool because he was a muzzynice to hear about him every so often, just like to know he's rotting behind bars
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