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(Yahoo)   Apparently the borough of Queens has a problem with a therapy pig within its boundaries   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 36
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2014-07-03 11:42:34 AM  
You tell those pigs to fark off!
 
2014-07-03 12:12:32 PM  
Pigs are great, especially with BBQ sauce
 
2014-07-03 12:12:48 PM  
A therapy pig soon to become a therapy entree.
 
2014-07-03 12:16:18 PM  
It might affend the Mooslims.
 
2014-07-03 12:16:56 PM  
Two "service animal" threads in one week? Trying to push the misogyny threads down to second place?
 
2014-07-03 12:19:29 PM  
So the city certified the animal, the Judge reviewed the badge, found it in order, and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?
 
2014-07-03 12:19:45 PM  
The only therapy a pig can give me is bacon.
 
2014-07-03 12:21:08 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man:  , and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?

welcome to NY the money grab state.
 
2014-07-03 12:21:55 PM  
Therapy pig is a win-win.
Helping those in need.
2nd helpings of bacon and ribs.
 
2014-07-03 12:22:44 PM  
On a side note.  I have a gas grill.
Is there anyway of turning the grill into a smoker?
Wife bought ribs for this weekend, and I desperately want to smoke them.


Suggestions?
 
2014-07-03 12:23:29 PM  
Swine Flu: Apocalypse
 
2014-07-03 12:25:55 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So the city certified the animal, the Judge reviewed the badge, found it in order, and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?


Sometimes, you need the approval of multiple government departments before you're allowed to do something.  Just because one department says yes, it doesn't cancel another department's no.
 
2014-07-03 12:29:56 PM  

mistrmind: On a side note.  I have a gas grill. Is there anyway of turning the grill into a smoker?  Wife bought ribs for this weekend, and I desperately want to smoke them.  Suggestions?


Google: "wood smoking gas grill".  The first hit is a nice article from Weber.

There is also an episode of America's Test Kitchen where the equipment review goes over a couple of smoker boxes.  Summary: a lot of them are garbage, so study before you do anything more advanced than an aluminum pan.
 
2014-07-03 12:34:30 PM  
At least put it on a leash.
She was letting it stroll along the street by itself, cars may not see it.
 
2014-07-03 12:35:52 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So the city certified the animal, the Judge reviewed the badge, found it in order, and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?


Maybe there is a distinction between an therapy animal and a service animal? *shrug*

/i didnt understand that part either.
 
2014-07-03 12:38:32 PM  
So the city certified the animal, the Judge reviewed the badge, found it in order, and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?


Well, it probably has something to do with the whole "emotional support animal" thing being a giant pile of horseshiat.
 
2014-07-03 12:39:04 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: The_Six_Fingered_Man: So the city certified the animal, the Judge reviewed the badge, found it in order, and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?

Maybe there is a distinction between an therapy animal and a service animal? *shrug*

/i didnt understand that part either.


Dunno. I can't seem to find any information on how to get your animal certified in NYC.
 
2014-07-03 12:46:15 PM  
lets kick it off: certified therapy animals should be limted to dogs with a concrete and universal training certification
 
2014-07-03 12:47:03 PM  

UberDave: You tell those pigs to fark off!


Fark off, pigs.

Did you hear what I said? Fark off!
 
2014-07-03 12:49:35 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: So the city certified the animal, the Judge reviewed the badge, found it in order, and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?


There is no such thing as a certified service animal.  There is no actual government body that certifies service animals.  Furthermore - at least under Federal law a pig can never be a service animal.  And again under Federal law most of the for emo reason animals couldn't be considered service animals.
 
2014-07-03 12:53:23 PM  
Not the borough that has the problem, it's the assholes at the city health department. Worst bureaucracy in the city.
 
2014-07-03 12:54:11 PM  
Service animals are trained to provide a service or perform a task(s).  The term comes from the ADA.
Dogs and miniature horses can be Service animals, nothing else can be.  There is NO license, certification, agency, etc. that regulates these animals, although there are NGO's that regulate some aspects of the system (who can train, types of training to be done, licensing, etc.).

Therapy animals can be trained or  untrained, and they can perform tasks, or not.  The term comes from the Fair Housing Act.

Service animals can be taken out into public, into places where the public has access (this is a very broad generalization, not actual statute being quoted), because the ADA covers PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS.

Therapy animals are protected in regards to HOUSING, RENTALS, and other locales covered by the Fair Housing Act (this is a very broad generalization, not actual statute being quoted).

In general landlords, housing providers, etc. must make reasonable accommodations for both service animals and therapy animals.  However, your grocery store must only accommodate a service animal (it's not renting you a home, so the FHA isn't in play). (this is a very broad generalization, not actual statute being quoted)
 
2014-07-03 12:55:51 PM  

Dinjiin: wood smoking gas grill


Thanks for the advice.
 
2014-07-03 12:56:23 PM  

JDJoeE: The_Six_Fingered_Man: So the city certified the animal, the Judge reviewed the badge, found it in order, and he still has to pay the fine? Wut?

There is no such thing as a certified service animal.  There is no actual government body that certifies service animals.  Furthermore - at least under Federal law a pig can never be a service animal.  And again under Federal law most of the for emo reason animals couldn't be considered service animals.


True, but a pig can be a therapy animal.

Since "therapy animal" follows the same strict definitions as "Organic" "all natural" and "lite" do in the food world.
 
2014-07-03 01:12:04 PM  
I recall reading some where that New York City banned the keeping of pigs (and other livestock) in 1885.

This seemed surprisingly late to me.

After all, they banned the Irish* more than a century earlier. And a bit less than a century later they banned the keeping of exotic pets such as hippopotami, giraffes, yetis, and the adopted children of celebrities, starting with Woody Allen and Mia Farrow's enormous brood.

*They didn't actually ban them altogether. They just made it illegal for more than 24 Irish people to occupy the dirt-floored crawl space underneath the first floor apartments of tenement buildings without cellars.
 
2014-07-03 01:15:40 PM  

Old Man Winter: Swine Flu: Apocalypse


The Aporkalypse!

Have you ever heard "Aporcalypso"? I have that on my iPod. It is quite jaunty!

It's as jaunty as 24 Irishmen living in a tenement crawl space.
 
2014-07-03 01:16:39 PM  

mistrmind: Suggestions?


I use hickory chips, soaked in water, in a disposable aluminum baking pan.  Cover it in aluminum foil and poke holes to let the smoke out.  Put it right on the burner shield, and then the griddle over top.  It will give you about a half hour to an hour of smoke, depending on pan size and amount of wood chips.
 
2014-07-03 01:29:51 PM  

graeylin: Service animals are trained to provide a service or perform a task(s).  The term comes from the ADA.
Dogs and miniature horses can be Service animals, nothing else can be.  There is NO license, certification, agency, etc. that regulates these animals, although there are NGO's that regulate some aspects of the system (who can train, types of training to be done, licensing, etc.).

Therapy animals can be trained or  untrained, and they can perform tasks, or not.  The term comes from the Fair Housing Act.

Service animals can be taken out into public, into places where the public has access (this is a very broad generalization, not actual statute being quoted), because the ADA covers PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS.

Therapy animals are protected in regards to HOUSING, RENTALS, and other locales covered by the Fair Housing Act (this is a very broad generalization, not actual statute being quoted).

In general landlords, housing providers, etc. must make reasonable accommodations for both service animals and therapy animals.  However, your grocery store must only accommodate a service animal (it's not renting you a home, so the FHA isn't in play). (this is a very broad generalization, not actual statute being quoted)


In this case he was walking the pig on public and got ticketed which wouldnt be covered by the FHA. I figured their had to be a distinction somewhere.
 
2014-07-03 01:30:38 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: mistrmind: Suggestions?

I use hickory chips, soaked in water, in a disposable aluminum baking pan.  Cover it in aluminum foil and poke holes to let the smoke out.  Put it right on the burner shield, and then the griddle over top.  It will give you about a half hour to an hour of smoke, depending on pan size and amount of wood chips.


That is how i used to do it before I got a proper smoker.
 
2014-07-03 02:41:49 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Marcus Aurelius: mistrmind: Suggestions?

I use hickory chips, soaked in water, in a disposable aluminum baking pan.  Cover it in aluminum foil and poke holes to let the smoke out.  Put it right on the burner shield, and then the griddle over top.  It will give you about a half hour to an hour of smoke, depending on pan size and amount of wood chips.

That is how i used to do it before I got a proper smoker.


http://www.smokedaddyinc.com/pellet-pro-grills/
 
2014-07-03 02:49:29 PM  
Aren't only dogs and miniature ponies considered service animals now?
 
2014-07-03 03:01:17 PM  
Saw an article on PBS a while back, about disabled animals, one off them being a little pig they fit with a dolly for his rear legs. Pretty neat. His name was "Chris P. Bacon". Kid you not.
 
2014-07-03 03:43:21 PM  

mistrmind: Therapy pig is a win-win.
Helping those in need.
2nd helpings of bacon and ribs.


I second your statement.
 
2014-07-03 03:59:03 PM  
I like pigs.
They are smart and generally friendly.
Not only that, but they're delicious!
I used to work on a small Mennonite hog farm.
It was hard work, but it was honest work, and at the time, it paid pretty well.
($6/hr in 1980)
And yes, I swung the hammer on pigs who's names I knew... Hell, I gave them their names.
But I always treated them well, and made sure they never saw it coming.
 
2014-07-03 04:04:47 PM  
On the other side, a prohibited animal is just that.Work to change the definition, unlike those that come across illegally, and use dropping anchor babies to help keep from getting evicted. Anchor baby is a bad word, but it's apt.
Unless there's a change in the law, I'm not inclined to provide any services to them.Sleeping on the floor in an air conditioned facilty? And meals as well. Free transportation back? It's like a bus holiday.,
 
2014-07-03 04:39:13 PM  
I'll be OK with people keeping pigs for pets when they teach the pig to use the toilet. Pig shiat is unbelievably foul-smelling. It's not like having a goat or some chickens.
 
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