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(Daily Mail)   University of Wisconsin researcher has created a version of the swine flu for which there is no vaccine and which, if it ever got out, could easily kill a billion people EVERYBODY PANIC   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 13
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2014-07-03 05:42:37 AM  
In cases like this, I'm always reminded of the Patron Oswalt bit that ends with the line "Science: we're all about 'coulda', not 'shoulda'".
 
2014-07-03 06:20:36 AM  
Ah L'appel du vide.  There is a tiny, nagging part of me hoping it does get out just so I can know if I would survive it. Pretty sure I would not.
 
2014-07-03 06:50:28 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2014-07-03 07:40:51 AM  
Paging Mr Flagg, paging Mr Randal Flagg....
 
2014-07-03 07:41:51 AM  
I bet we have a lot of these on the shelf.
 
2014-07-03 07:42:39 AM  
Time to cull the heard?
 
2014-07-03 07:42:58 AM  
I seem to have been transported a day into the past.

/Hey, I think I hear something. It sounds kind of like... Rice Krispies?
 
2014-07-03 07:44:16 AM  
Fark moderator has created a version of the swine flu link for which there is no vaccine and which, if it ever got repeated, could easily annoy a few thousand Farkers...
 
2014-07-03 07:44:47 AM  
M-O-O-N, that spells repeat. Laws yes, even Tom Cullen knows there was a thread about this yesterday.
 
2014-07-03 07:46:07 AM  

szyska: Paging Mr Flagg, paging Mr Randal Flagg....


They created a second one? Or is this the same as the Randal Flagg thread from yesterday?

/Repeat
 
2014-07-03 07:50:05 AM  
Oh, look. The Fail's hyperbolic, rhetorical, headline machine is at it again....

Next up: SHOULD WE LET CRAZY MAN STAB RABBITS WITH POTATOES! THE TRUTH WILL SHOCK YOU!

Subby is bad and should feel bad.
 
2014-07-03 07:56:25 AM  
Well, for one, "resistant to vaccination" is a bit of a stretch.  Its a new strain, so its quite possible that the current H1N1 vaccine is not effective against his new strain, but until you test it you really never know.  Sometimes vaccines are at least partially effective to a number of different strains of the same virus.

Second of all, there is a lot of fear mongering in this article.  This wasn't done for no reason.  Experiments with engineering flu are sometimes done to determine just how easy it would be for these strains to arise via natural recombination or mutation.  I don't personally know why he did this specific work as the researcher didn't clearly state his intentions (which doesn't help him at all, try not to hamstring us all jackass) but that's one potential reason at least.

At any rate, they also whine about his work being done at a BSL-3 vs. a BSL-4.  The differences in personal protection are significant, to say the least between these safety levels.  The differences in biosecurity is unrelated.  As long as his work uses Select Agent material then it is subjected to all the same security and access control protocols as the stuff at BSL-4.  And there are a LOT of those.  And a lot of clearances and inspections.  Its not some hum drum university lab any 18 year old can walk into with a flashlight and nightstick armed rent-a-cop "watching" the door.
 
2014-07-03 08:12:51 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Well, for one, "resistant to vaccination" is a bit of a stretch.  Its a new strain, so its quite possible that the current H1N1 vaccine is not effective against his new strain, but until you test it you really never know.  Sometimes vaccines are at least partially effective to a number of different strains of the same virus.

Second of all, there is a lot of fear mongering in this article.  This wasn't done for no reason.  Experiments with engineering flu are sometimes done to determine just how easy it would be for these strains to arise via natural recombination or mutation.  I don't personally know why he did this specific work as the researcher didn't clearly state his intentions (which doesn't help him at all, try not to hamstring us all jackass) but that's one potential reason at least.

At any rate, they also whine about his work being done at a BSL-3 vs. a BSL-4.  The differences in personal protection are significant, to say the least between these safety levels.  The differences in biosecurity is unrelated.  As long as his work uses Select Agent material then it is subjected to all the same security and access control protocols as the stuff at BSL-4.  And there are a LOT of those.  And a lot of clearances and inspections.  Its not some hum drum university lab any 18 year old can walk into with a flashlight and nightstick armed rent-a-cop "watching" the door.


I didn't read this article, but I did read the last one. It said the strain of the virus had been specifically created to work around current immunities. The point was to make one that the current vaccine wouldn't be effective against, largely to see what that would look like so we'd be better prepared to deal with it if a natural strain like that cropped up.
 
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