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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Marvel to promote their Death of Wolverine story with "memorial kits." Resurrection kits to be available the following month   ( hollywoodreporter.com) divider line
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2014-07-02 04:30:01 PM  
I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?
 
2014-07-02 04:45:42 PM  

Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?


Short of Uncle Ben... no.


/and I'm using major character extremely loosely.
 
2014-07-02 04:55:10 PM  

Nefarious: Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?

Short of Uncle Ben... no.


/and I'm using major character extremely loosely.


Uncle Ben and the Waynes aren't really characters... they're just plot devices. The same plot device, actually.

Uncle Ben dies, Peter realizes that with great power comes great responsibility, becomes a hero.

The Waynes die, Bruce screams MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEAAAAADDDDDDD, realizes criminals are a cowardly, superstitious lot, becomes a hero.

And all we really know about them is that they're dead, and their deaths made heroes.
 
2014-07-02 05:20:21 PM  

Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?


Aside from an appearance as a zombie in Blackest Night, Jonah Hex stayed dead.
 
2014-07-02 05:34:15 PM  

RexTalionis: Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?

Aside from an appearance as a zombie in Blackest Night, Jonah Hex stayed dead.


But his time traveling adventures mean he can show up at any time.
 
2014-07-02 05:35:12 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Fool me once, shame on you, comic book publishers.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
 
2014-07-02 05:37:04 PM  
wildamerica.com

They're cubs, not kitts.
 
2014-07-02 05:37:32 PM  
The original Wesley Dodds died and never came back.
 
2014-07-02 05:45:13 PM  

Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?


Gwen Stacy had clones, but I think the real one stayed dead.
 
2014-07-02 05:45:40 PM  

Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?


Caiera Oldstrong.  :(
 
2014-07-02 05:46:17 PM  

spcMike: The original Wesley Dodds died and never came back.


Along that line, many of the greats of the golden age are dead. Ted Knight (Starman) is dead. The Wizard Shazam is dead. Al Pratt (The Atom) is dead. Kent Nelson (Dr. Fate) is dead.
 
2014-07-02 05:47:23 PM  
Rex Tyler is also dead.
 
2014-07-02 05:47:26 PM  

RexTalionis: spcMike: The original Wesley Dodds died and never came back.

Along that line, many of the greats of the golden age are dead. Ted Knight (Starman) is dead. The Wizard Shazam is dead. Al Pratt (The Atom) is dead. Kent Nelson (Dr. Fate) is dead.


The entirety of the real DC Universe is dead.
 
2014-07-02 05:48:18 PM  
Karen Page is also dead.
 
2014-07-02 05:51:41 PM  
I want to see someone killed off by total surprise. None of this "announce it months before" crap. You just turn the page, expecting whatever punch out to reach its conclusion and then BLAM! Hero brains everywhere. The rest of the issue is the funeral.

Granted, I don't read comics so I'm sure this probably happened to someone at least once. And of course they should stop making a big deal out of deaths unless they're ready to keep that character dead.
 
2014-07-02 05:53:42 PM  
No, no, no.  Wolverine will be drawn and quartered.  But thanks to his awesome powers of regeneration, they'll turn into four smaller Wolverines of slightly less ferocity.
 
2014-07-02 05:58:10 PM  

Mentalpatient87: I want to see someone killed off by total surprise. None of this "announce it months before" crap. You just turn the page, expecting whatever punch out to reach its conclusion and then BLAM! Hero brains everywhere. The rest of the issue is the funeral.

Granted, I don't read comics so I'm sure this probably happened to someone at least once. And of course they should stop making a big deal out of deaths unless they're ready to keep that character dead.


Most of this gets spoiled due to to solicitations that come out months in advance, but I agree.

It's what makes the Injustice: Gods Among us comic so great.  Even if you played the game and know which characters have kicked the bucket prior to the games events, watching it go down is amazing...and you know they aren't coming back two issues later.

/poor green arrow, that was farking brutal.
 
2014-07-02 06:42:25 PM  
Well then they should put a gag on the solicitations months in advance. Also maybe stop titling the issue "Death of ____" I mean, spoiler alert..
 
2014-07-02 06:49:32 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Well then they should put a gag on the solicitations months in advance. Also maybe stop titling the issue "Death of ____" I mean, spoiler alert..


Doesn't matter. Comic people gossip worse than old chinese ladies playing mahjong.

Plus it's the complete and utter opposite of the intended purpose here. They 'kill' lead characters every year because it brings in a super rush of people buying the comic and a few related ones.

Same, exact, reason they 'restart' the universes every 5-10 years.  People rush out to buy a handful of #1s, and slowly realize it's the same god awful slop and stop paying 50$ for 3 pages of advertisements disguised as a comic.
 
2014-07-02 06:51:41 PM  
Damian Wayne's death came as a surprise to me ... especially since it came directly AFTER "Death of the Family", in which you'd really expect at least *some* of the batfamily to, you know, die.  (if it WAS spoiled by marketing, I missed it ...)

so did Broo's (but he got better).
 
2014-07-02 06:58:04 PM  
And the reward for most deaths with absolutely no emotional impact on the reader goes to....
 
2014-07-02 07:11:22 PM  
Peter Parker's real parents have stayed dead.
 
2014-07-02 07:32:14 PM  

2wolves: Peter Parker's real parents have stayed dead.


To be fair, they were never alive in the comic's continuity.  They were dead from day one.  Uncle Ben was alive in one issue and has been in tons of flashbacks.
 
2014-07-02 07:33:16 PM  

Nefarious: Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?

Short of Uncle Ben... no.


/and I'm using major character extremely loosely.


Uncle Ben isn't dead. He was actually a SHIELD agent, just like Richard and Mary Parker have turned out to be. It turns out that Ben had certain knowledge that HYDRA wanted, so his death had to be faked to save his family. The Ben Parker that died was an LMD.

Yes, this is an intentionally stupid joke plot I wrote so that if Marvel ever does try to pull something like this, I can point to my various postings of this plot pitch so that I can shut it down by claming they're trying to steal the idea.
 
2014-07-02 07:38:17 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Nefarious: Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?

Short of Uncle Ben... no.


/and I'm using major character extremely loosely.

Uncle Ben isn't dead. He was actually a SHIELD agent, just like Richard and Mary Parker have turned out to be. It turns out that Ben had certain knowledge that HYDRA wanted, so his death had to be faked to save his family. The Ben Parker that died was an LMD.

Yes, this is an intentionally stupid joke plot I wrote so that if Marvel ever does try to pull something like this, I can point to my various postings of this plot pitch so that I can shut it down by claming they're trying to steal the idea.


The real Ben Parker is also a black man who looks a lot like Denzel Washington.
 
2014-07-02 08:00:53 PM  

RexTalionis: Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?

Aside from an appearance as a zombie in Blackest Night, Jonah Hex stayed dead.


Only because the stinkfest movie ensured no franchise.
 
2014-07-02 08:42:24 PM  
Obligatory:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PlwDbSYicM

Too-long-didn't-watch version; dead heroes always stayed dead; until Superman.  Once they brought back Superman it opened the floodgates.

Before Superman, heroes like Jason Todd (second Robin) and Barry Allen (The Flash) were dead and gone forever.
 
2014-07-02 08:47:51 PM  

skyotter: Damian Wayne's death came as a surprise to me ... especially since it came directly AFTER "Death of the Family", in which you'd really expect at least *some* of the batfamily to, you know, die.  (if it WAS spoiled by marketing, I missed it ...)

so did Broo's (but he got better).


It was pretty spoiled, but I'm not sure they are going to bring him back, and no one can say his death hasn't sent a neat wave through the bat comics, particularly b&r.

He isn't present in any of the "future" stories so I'm not sure if he's coming back.
 
2014-07-02 08:49:42 PM  
I haven't read the Bat books in a while, but during RIP wasn't it left ambiguous as to whether or not the villain was actually Thomas Wayne?

Also, Wolverine's major power is pretty much that he can't die so I'm pretty sure not even the most naive fan expects this one to last.
 
2014-07-02 08:59:21 PM  
I'm not sure Marvel has a more overexposed character than Wolverine.  I'm guessing the main reason for his upcoming death is so they can streamline what titles he's actually in once he comes back.  Well that and to sell a fark ton of books.

I'm assuming of course this death is actually taking place in continuity and not some self-contained story that takes place at some point in the future?
 
2014-07-02 09:55:56 PM  
Remember when a character was truly dead they were referred to as "Bucky dead"?  Yeah that didn't last forever either.

I could live with the fact nobody stayed dead forever, but it seems Marvel insists on this cheap move with every major event that it has lost any impact. Now its just a running joke.
 
2014-07-02 10:37:03 PM  
This will last probably a year, no more than two. In fact, I see the next X-Men movie is out in May 2016, so he may come back just in time for that if they really want to drag it out.
 
2014-07-02 10:51:11 PM  
Fear not. He will return just in time for the new X-Men or Wolverine movie. Just like Spider Man did.
 
2014-07-02 11:31:30 PM  

Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?


This guy. Early but not founding member of the Avengers, had his own title, twice. A blonde with big boobs took his place. They killed off his son and daughter too. Very unlucky super hero.
www.spiderfan.org
 
2014-07-03 06:41:30 AM  

Kurmudgeon: Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?

This guy. Early but not founding member of the Avengers, had his own title, twice. A blonde with big boobs took his place. They killed off his son and daughter too. Very unlucky super hero.


A blonde with big tits and is a fighter pilot!

The doors name was Mar-Vell, he had it coming.
 
2014-07-03 08:48:42 AM  

Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?


Ralph and Sue Dibny.  Dammit.

Although the world they lived in and characters they knew don't exist anymore, so bringing them back now would be pretty meaningless.  The  New-52 may be good for new readers, but it was the history and growth over time that drew me in, and I'm not interested in starting over with new characters that are blank slates and shallow reflections of what came before.  Sorry, a little tangential there, it just got me thinking about everything that was lost in the change.
 
2014-07-03 11:46:20 AM  

master of unlocking: I haven't read the Bat books in a while, but during RIP wasn't it left ambiguous as to whether or not the villain was actually Thomas Wayne?

Also, Wolverine's major power is pretty much that he can't die so I'm pretty sure not even the most naive fan expects this one to last.


The Wayne's appear occasionally in elsewords/alternate earths.  Flashpoint had bruce killed and Thomas becoming batman and martha joker, present Earth 2 has Thomas surviving the "murder" and becoming that worlds batman...though a drug addict with the miracle drug.

Earth prime Wayne's stays dead.
 
2014-07-03 03:46:48 PM  

Lsherm: I don't follow comics, but has there ever been a major character killed off who stayed dead?


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