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2014-07-02 11:54:19 AM  
Soldiers in the US Navy?
 
2014-07-02 01:10:10 PM  

dittybopper: Soldiers in the US Navy?


forget it, he's on a roll.
 
2014-07-02 01:15:31 PM  
Why, yes, until now we did look to Michael Bay for being historically accurate, or for any storyline that didn't elicit a WTF.
 
2014-07-02 01:15:56 PM  
Wow. Uphill battle there, Yankee. Next thing, someone will show a clown in a concentration camp.
 
2014-07-02 02:08:06 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Why, yes, until now we did look to Michael Bay for being historically accurate, or for any storyline that didn't elicit a WTF.


You have a point and most people in the world would agree with you. But just as an example, there are people who looked at Braveheart and Gladiator as being 100% accurate, so there are more then likely people who would watch this movie and take it as historically accurate. So the question remains, do filmakers have to take on that responsibility? Are they allowed to take creative license with historical events? Stuff like Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter and that Nazi movie about them building a moonbase in the 40's are obviously tongue in cheek, but where is the line drawn?

I was watching  Inglourious Basterds with my niece and she asked me of that was how Hitler actually died.

/Told her he actually died in a experiment that went wrong
//Which is why we never tried to build another time machine
 
2014-07-02 02:27:14 PM  
Wait, so we are greening old videos that mock old movies simplye because BAYHATEGASM?

I'd like to say I am suprised. But this IS Fark.
 
2014-07-02 02:48:00 PM  
For the record.  I knew plenty of "soldiers" who couldn't swim when I served.
 
2014-07-02 02:52:02 PM  

Minimum: For the record.  I knew plenty of "soldiers" who couldn't swim when I served.


My uncle would tell me when he was in the Navy, he couldn't swim.. In order to pass the swimming test, the guy running the test told him "I'm going to turn around for a minute and you ass better be in the other side of the pool". He even managed to not get wet..

//CSB
 
2014-07-02 02:53:00 PM  
Expecting Michael Bay to produce a good movie, let alone an historically accurate movie, is a bit like expecting Stephanie Meyer to produce the next great American novel.
 
2014-07-02 02:58:48 PM  

unchellmatt: Expecting Michael Bay to produce a good movie


The Rock is a good movie.

SO THERE.
 
2014-07-02 03:06:46 PM  
Doug's father was in the navy. That's why he went crazy in this 'review'.

/subby
//still one of the best NC rants ever

Most people on YouTube have agreed that Doug was more out of character than "in" character here.
That he didn't appreciate how the men were depicted, and due to his father's involvement with the navy, took it personally.
 
2014-07-02 03:51:47 PM  

Minimum: For the record.  I knew plenty of "soldiers" who couldn't swim when I served.


Heh.

I dated a woman who was in the Navy.  Figured, "Hey, we're in Hawaii, I learned how to sail in the Boy Scouts, she's in the Navy, I'll take her sailing for the afternoon!".

So we get to Waianae Army Rec Center and I rent a Sunfish.  I give her the speech about ducking when I tell her to, and she's cool with it.  We get out there, and it's a little choppy but not too bad, and the wind is pretty steady so we're moving right along when she says "I can't swim!".

Crap.

She's not wearing a life preserver.

I'm thinking to myself "I've got this thing up on the rails with our asses hanging off the starboard gunwale in the middle of Pokai Bay, and you can't swim?".

I spilled the air from the sail and headed back to the beach at a nice sedate pace.

I still can't wrap my head around being in the Navy and not being able to swim.
 
2014-07-02 03:59:37 PM  

dittybopper: Minimum: For the record.  I knew plenty of "soldiers" who couldn't swim when I served.

Heh.

I dated a woman who was in the Navy.  Figured, "Hey, we're in Hawaii, I learned how to sail in the Boy Scouts, she's in the Navy, I'll take her sailing for the afternoon!".

So we get to Waianae Army Rec Center and I rent a Sunfish.  I give her the speech about ducking when I tell her to, and she's cool with it.  We get out there, and it's a little choppy but not too bad, and the wind is pretty steady so we're moving right along when she says "I can't swim!".

Crap.

She's not wearing a life preserver.

I'm thinking to myself "I've got this thing up on the rails with our asses hanging off the starboard gunwale in the middle of Pokai Bay, and you can't swim?".

I spilled the air from the sail and headed back to the beach at a nice sedate pace.

I still can't wrap my head around being in the Navy and not being able to swim.


Did you at least swab her poop deck?
 
2014-07-02 04:34:07 PM  

dittybopper: Minimum: For the record.  I knew plenty of "soldiers" who couldn't swim when I served.

Heh.

I dated a woman who was in the Navy.  Figured, "Hey, we're in Hawaii, I learned how to sail in the Boy Scouts, she's in the Navy, I'll take her sailing for the afternoon!".

So we get to Waianae Army Rec Center and I rent a Sunfish.  I give her the speech about ducking when I tell her to, and she's cool with it.  We get out there, and it's a little choppy but not too bad, and the wind is pretty steady so we're moving right along when she says "I can't swim!".

Crap.

She's not wearing a life preserver.

I'm thinking to myself "I've got this thing up on the rails with our asses hanging off the starboard gunwale in the middle of Pokai Bay, and you can't swim?".

I spilled the air from the sail and headed back to the beach at a nice sedate pace.

I still can't wrap my head around being in the Navy and not being able to swim.


Did you offer her a lesson, swimsuit optional?
 
2014-07-02 04:44:05 PM  
A lot of sailors didnt swim and a lot wont eat seafood since fish eat dead sailors. I bet he would get pissed when he finds out that most people in the Air Force dont fly.
 
2014-07-02 04:58:53 PM  

JesterJoker55: , there are people who looked at Braveheart and Gladiator as being 100% accurate, so there are more then likely people who would watch this movie and take it as historically accurate.


I lost count of the number of times  I had to tell teen girlfriends that Shakespeare in Love wasn't a true story

The same type of acquaintance who thought the opposite of Titanic

Why, yes, they were good looking, why do you ask?
 
2014-07-02 05:03:12 PM  
Did you at least swab her poop deck?

Did you offer her a lesson, swimsuit optional?


Sadly, no.

Well, not that I didn't offer, she didn't accept.  Tall, blonde, leggy butterface.  Not sure if above my league, or I scared her.
 
2014-07-02 05:38:22 PM  
What a farking moron.  Yes, there are people in the Navy that can't swim, it's not a prerequisite for enlisting.
 
2014-07-02 07:25:38 PM  

dittybopper: Soldiers in the US Navy?


That's the thing that broke the rant for me.  One important word choice over the other.

Sailors are expected to swim, though the training requirements vary greatly depending on what one's specialty is to be.

Soldiers ought to know how to swim, but it's not a strong requirement, unless, perhaps, you're a Marine.  Then I guess the thing I said about sailors applies.  The Marine Corpse[1] is a part of the Department of the Navy, after all.

[1]  Historical Fark thread reference, with a twist.
 
2014-07-02 07:47:49 PM  
Sort of amusing, although the "can't swim" bit is the wrongest part of his rant rather than the topper that he thinks it is.

Pretty clear in context he is just using "soldier" to mean "serviceman" (he immediately narrows it down to "sailor in the Navy").

/ that reedy prepubescent little voice of his, though, is unfortunate
 
2014-07-02 08:50:22 PM  
one of the worst movies I have ever seen
 
2014-07-02 08:58:41 PM  
The only remember two things about that movie

1) Kate Beckinsale walking across a windy airstrip in a form-fitting red dress
2) The non-existant chemistry both of the male leads had with Kate B.

Oh, and it sucked. Except for Kate.
 
2014-07-02 11:39:42 PM  

ReapTheChaos: What a farking moron.  Yes, there are people in the Navy that can't swim, it's not a prerequisite for enlisting.


I was in the Navy and when I went in you were required to pass a swim test.

And, for the record, I served at a shore station.
 
2014-07-03 01:05:37 AM  
CSB... I was living in Corpus Christi at the time Pearl Harbor was filmed, and landed a spot as an extra on an air craft carrier.  You can see the back of my head for about a second and a half in one scene.

To prove how much Bay cared about accuracy, all he did was change out the flags on the carrier so he could use it for the US and then for Japan.  Oh, and my buddy who is Filipino played an extra on the Japanese air craft carrier.  There were so few asians in South Texas, they pretty much took anyone that showed up, and then still had to bus people in from Houston.
 
2014-07-03 07:10:01 AM  
If this hysterical idiot is such a stickler for accurate facts, he needs to know: nobody serving at Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941 was there because he had been drafted.
 
2014-07-03 07:31:10 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: unchellmatt: Expecting Michael Bay to produce a good movie

The Rock is a good movie.

SO THERE.


Either you're joking, or I'm just going to go out on a limb and suggest we have different tastes :)

But you know, it HAS been a long time since I've seen "The Rock"... I do seem to remember that I enjoyed it a bit.
 
2014-07-03 07:45:32 AM  

unchellmatt: Jim from Saint Paul: unchellmatt: Expecting Michael Bay to produce a good movie

The Rock is a good movie.

SO THERE.

Either you're joking, or I'm just going to go out on a limb and suggest we have different tastes :)

But you know, it HAS been a long time since I've seen "The Rock"... I do seem to remember that I enjoyed it a bit.


It is a good movie the way Nic Cage is a good actor. It's batshiat hilarious over-the-top action that puts the money onscreen.

I remember feeling bad for Ed Harris who gamely tried to retain some sort of dignity despite being hip-deep in Bayness.
 
2014-07-03 07:53:59 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: unchellmatt: Jim from Saint Paul: unchellmatt: Expecting Michael Bay to produce a good movie

The Rock is a good movie.

SO THERE.

Either you're joking, or I'm just going to go out on a limb and suggest we have different tastes :)

But you know, it HAS been a long time since I've seen "The Rock"... I do seem to remember that I enjoyed it a bit.

It is a good movie the way Nic Cage is a good actor. It's batshiat hilarious over-the-top action that puts the money onscreen.

I remember feeling bad for Ed Harris who gamely tried to retain some sort of dignity despite being hip-deep in Bayness.


Bayness.  Snerk.

Is the ability to quickly detect a terrible movie from the trailer, or even the opening credits, called Baydar?
 
2014-07-03 09:16:24 AM  
Boot camp (Great Lakes) was full of sailors (not soldiers dumbass) who couldn't swim. Even after boot camp most could barely tread water.
 
2014-07-03 09:24:26 AM  

DoblerMeyer: CSB... I was living in Corpus Christi at the time Pearl Harbor was filmed, and landed a spot as an extra on an air craft carrier.  You can see the back of my head for about a second and a half in one scene.

To prove how much Bay cared about accuracy, all he did was change out the flags on the carrier so he could use it for the US and then for Japan.  Oh, and my buddy who is Filipino played an extra on the Japanese air craft carrier.  There were so few asians in South Texas, they pretty much took anyone that showed up, and then still had to bus people in from Houston.


You obviously didn't pay too much attention when you were in Corpus Christi. There are Vietnamese all over the gulf regions of Texas.
 
2014-07-03 09:28:44 AM  

dittybopper: Minimum: For the record.  I knew plenty of "soldiers" who couldn't swim when I served.

Heh.

I dated a woman who was in the Navy.  Figured, "Hey, we're in Hawaii, I learned how to sail in the Boy Scouts, she's in the Navy, I'll take her sailing for the afternoon!".

So we get to Waianae Army Rec Center and I rent a Sunfish.  I give her the speech about ducking when I tell her to, and she's cool with it.  We get out there, and it's a little choppy but not too bad, and the wind is pretty steady so we're moving right along when she says "I can't swim!".

Crap.

She's not wearing a life preserver.

I'm thinking to myself "I've got this thing up on the rails with our asses hanging off the starboard gunwale in the middle of Pokai Bay, and you can't swim?".

I spilled the air from the sail and headed back to the beach at a nice sedate pace.

I still can't wrap my head around being in the Navy and not being able to swim.


not a single person in the Air Force can fly
 
2014-07-03 11:56:07 AM  

Waldo Pepper: not a single person in the Air Force can fly


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

/you've ruined my image of the armed forces...
 
2014-07-03 12:20:17 PM  
I like most Michael Bay movies
 
2014-07-03 01:24:22 PM  

dittybopper: So we get to Waianae Army Rec Center and I rent a Sunfish. I give her the speech about ducking when I tell her to, and she's cool with it. We get out there, and it's a little choppy but not too bad, and the wind is pretty steady so we're moving right along when she says "I can't swim!".

Crap.

She's not wearing a life preserver.


Hrmmm.  The local sailing club here won't even let you walk on, let alone launch from their pier without wearing a flotation device.
 
2014-07-03 01:41:11 PM  

unchellmatt: Jim from Saint Paul: unchellmatt: Expecting Michael Bay to produce a good movie

The Rock is a good movie.

SO THERE.

Either you're joking, or I'm just going to go out on a limb and suggest we have different tastes :)

But you know, it HAS been a long time since I've seen "The Rock"... I do seem to remember that I enjoyed it a bit.


The Rock was liked alot back in the day. Fark would have been on board with it.

Now hategasm is the name of the game.
 
2014-07-03 03:50:25 PM  
It wasn't so much a situation of "not swimming" as it was "HOLY F*CK THERE'S BURNING OIL ON THE SURFACE OF THE WATER EVERYWHERE!!!!".
 
2014-07-03 05:16:00 PM  
Yeah, I feel rage at 15 year old movies, too.
 
2014-07-03 05:19:04 PM  

TV's Vinnie: It wasn't so much a situation of "not swimming" as it was "HOLY F*CK THERE'S BURNING OIL ON THE SURFACE OF THE WATER EVERYWHERE!!!!".


They teach how to deal with that in the Navy. Well... they explain it anyway.
 
2014-07-03 07:58:08 PM  

Whodat: TV's Vinnie: It wasn't so much a situation of "not swimming" as it was "HOLY F*CK THERE'S BURNING OIL ON THE SURFACE OF THE WATER EVERYWHERE!!!!".

They teach how to deal with that in the Navy.


Probably because of the flaming horror that occurred at Pearl Harbor.
 
2014-07-03 11:10:35 PM  

Waldo Pepper: dittybopper: Minimum: For the record.  I knew plenty of "soldiers" who couldn't swim when I served.

Heh.

I dated a woman who was in the Navy.  Figured, "Hey, we're in Hawaii, I learned how to sail in the Boy Scouts, she's in the Navy, I'll take her sailing for the afternoon!".

So we get to Waianae Army Rec Center and I rent a Sunfish.  I give her the speech about ducking when I tell her to, and she's cool with it.  We get out there, and it's a little choppy but not too bad, and the wind is pretty steady so we're moving right along when she says "I can't swim!".

Crap.

She's not wearing a life preserver.

I'm thinking to myself "I've got this thing up on the rails with our asses hanging off the starboard gunwale in the middle of Pokai Bay, and you can't swim?".

I spilled the air from the sail and headed back to the beach at a nice sedate pace.

I still can't wrap my head around being in the Navy and not being able to swim.

not a single person in the Air Force can fly


Spoken like a man without a trebuchet.
 
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