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(Miami Herald)   You know what's depressing? Having to go to the hospital to get treated for depression. You know what's even more depressing? Getting strangled by another patient while you're being treated   (miamiherald.com) divider line 63
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2014-07-02 12:07:01 AM
mojoimage.com
 
2014-07-02 12:51:13 AM
Should've used a pillow.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-02 12:51:41 AM
Well, least least now you're glad to be left alive.

/and not raped
 
2014-07-02 12:54:44 AM
A man being treated for depression was killed at the hands of another patient. The victim's family is trying to understand how and why it happened.

How: The assailant, using his hands and a bedsheet, squeezed the victim's throat until the victim stopped living.
Why: 'Cos he was farking cray-cray.
 
2014-07-02 12:55:52 AM
People cry for better mental healthcare, then act surprised when people don't want to go to aslyums when the facilities have issues when they're underfunded.

Color me shocked. Actually, no, not really, just another example of the weak getting kicked while they're down more. Something society is built on, and will always be built on. Sigh.
 
2014-07-02 12:56:01 AM
Why you little...
 
2014-07-02 12:57:15 AM
A man being treated for depression was killed at the hands of another patient. The victim's family is trying to understand how and why it happened.

They don't know how a person can be strangled?  The f&%k is wrong in that area?

And, if THEY don't know, maybe the person who did the killing didn't know either... just thought it was a back scratch favor and got all mixed up, carried away and discombobbulated.
 
2014-07-02 12:59:08 AM
He was depressed, maybe he asked for it.

/it's not victim blaming when they want it.
 
2014-07-02 01:01:21 AM

The hospital homicide is an "isolated incident," Aventura police spokesman Sgt. Chris Goranitis said Monday.


Yeah, one patient killed another. But only in that one room, so yeah, pretty much isolated to that one area where we found the body.
 
2014-07-02 01:02:57 AM
The hospital has remained continuously committed to assisting police, while also conducting a thorough internal review. The security and well-being of their patients, staff, and visitors remain of utmost importance and they are committed to providing care in a safe environment to the community they serve. They have extended their deepest sympathy to the family during this very difficult time.
The Marketing Director said so.
 
2014-07-02 01:06:55 AM
At least they found a cure for his depression.
 
2014-07-02 01:07:31 AM
"Security officers in hospitals should be specifically trained on how to handle patients and their safety, she said."

That's cute that they think hospital security is any different than mall security,  it's not.

If it's contracted out then they're the exact same guys.  My first security job was at a hospital,  the second day I was standing in a room that had a guy strapped to a bed and the nurse hiding behind me because they guy started sucking up saliva to spit at her if she came any closer.  Then later that night we were running around the place looking for an escaped mental patient.

I asked for and was transfered somewhere else.  that shiat wasn't worth the money.  So the company moved me to an autoparts plant.  Same pay,  but I got to sit in a room all night watching tv.. err the monitors and making sure no one was parked in fire lanes every few hours.


TL:DR  Hospital / mall / whatever security are all the same guys if it's contract work,  the company doesn't give you any special training based on your assignment.
 
2014-07-02 01:10:32 AM
Strangling's what thumbs are for.
 
2014-07-02 01:10:55 AM
"Funny," he intoned funereally, "how just when you think life can't possibly get any worse it suddenly does."
 
2014-07-02 01:10:59 AM
Get Direct TV
 
2014-07-02 01:17:47 AM
Between having your face eaten off and being strangled by your roommate, Miami is a bad place to be around insane, homeless people. Also, the weather is miserable this time of year.
 
2014-07-02 01:23:12 AM
Well, after all, he was one of those people: "The 32-year-old victim, diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia at a young age, had been in the hospital for two weeks."

Oh wait, so am I, only mine wasn't diagnosed until two years ago.  All along there was medication - Lithium/Lamictal - that eliminated ALL symptoms.  So, 58 years with, 2 years without.
 
2014-07-02 01:23:15 AM
No, no, Jimmy, choking is something you do when you eat too fast. As I'm crushing Mister Moorin's windpipe with my watch chain, what I'm doing is actually referred to as strangling.
 
2014-07-02 01:25:31 AM
I committed myself for attempted suicide about 5 years ago. I had a thorough and well planned method for a quick exit, and I was about to do it.

The image of my 6 month old daughter in my head prevented me from doing it.

I was placed in the non-violent low-risk ward. I could go out for smokes and return without escort, although I was technically 'in custody'. I was with non-violent schizophrenics who mostly had stripped nude in psychosis while off meds, (Interesting people, I might add) and others of various mental health issues. I never once felt in any danger.

There was a high risk ward, and in fact I was in the reserves with a man who worked as a security guard at a similar high risk ward at another city hospital, and he told me a story of a girl of 20 who made over 30 2-6 inch gashes across her entire body in a bathtub, and how he pulled her nude body out so that medical staff could intervene.

After 10 days I was released and placed into a 30 day high intensity program for clinical depression at the same hospital. It changed my life, and despite still battling depression I am still here, five years later. Mainly thanks to my daughters, my lights in the dark.

In the 30 day program, I noticed that out of 30 people, only 2, me and one other, were men. I commented on this at one point, and the response I got was that most men went through with the suicide and very rarely did something stop men from actually doing it and getting help.
 
2014-07-02 01:27:53 AM
put a camera in his room and you're violating his privacy.  don't watch him 24/7 and it's, "how could you let this happen?".
 
2014-07-02 01:29:07 AM

stonelotus: put a camera in his room and you're violating his privacy.  don't watch him 24/7 and it's, "how could you let this happen?".


There are cameras in some wards.
 
2014-07-02 01:31:33 AM
That's sad.
 
2014-07-02 01:32:06 AM
Jackson, who is homeless, was admitted to the hospital around 10 a.m. Thursday, the day of the murder. He was put in the same room with Rios, according to his arrest report. Because of privacy laws, it is not clear why he was admitted.

A lot of the visibly homeless are batshiat crazy. There are loads of homeless people who live in their cars, wash in a sink, and try to keep dignity, but the visibly homeless ones... they are typically really crazy.
 
2014-07-02 01:35:04 AM

reveal101: I committed myself for attempted suicide about 5 years ago. I had a thorough and well planned method for a quick exit, and I was about to do it.

The image of my 6 month old daughter in my head prevented me from doing it.

I was placed in the non-violent low-risk ward. I could go out for smokes and return without escort, although I was technically 'in custody'. I was with non-violent schizophrenics who mostly had stripped nude in psychosis while off meds, (Interesting people, I might add) and others of various mental health issues. I never once felt in any danger.

There was a high risk ward, and in fact I was in the reserves with a man who worked as a security guard at a similar high risk ward at another city hospital, and he told me a story of a girl of 20 who made over 30 2-6 inch gashes across her entire body in a bathtub, and how he pulled her nude body out so that medical staff could intervene.

After 10 days I was released and placed into a 30 day high intensity program for clinical depression at the same hospital. It changed my life, and despite still battling depression I am still here, five years later. Mainly thanks to my daughters, my lights in the dark.

In the 30 day program, I noticed that out of 30 people, only 2, me and one other, were men. I commented on this at one point, and the response I got was that most men went through with the suicide and very rarely did something stop men from actually doing it and getting help.


Glad you got through that and glad you're here. Keep enjoying life!
 
2014-07-02 01:35:27 AM
Shiat.
 
2014-07-02 01:35:49 AM

UsikFark: Jackson, who is homeless, was admitted to the hospital around 10 a.m. Thursday, the day of the murder. He was put in the same room with Rios, according to his arrest report. Because of privacy laws, it is not clear why he was admitted.

A lot of the visibly homeless are batshiat crazy. There are loads of homeless people who live in their cars, wash in a sink, and try to keep dignity, but the visibly homeless ones... they are typically really crazy.


That or he's a frequent flier whenever the weather gets uncomfortable.
 
2014-07-02 01:40:44 AM
The psych ward of a hospital isn't safe. Who knew?
 
2014-07-02 01:41:33 AM

Xanlexian: That's sad.


Your my last total farker I've ignored. Not sad!
 
2014-07-02 01:45:02 AM

reveal101: I committed myself for attempted suicide about 5 years ago. I had a thorough and well planned method for a quick exit, and I was about to do it.

The image of my 6 month old daughter in my head prevented me from doing it.

I was placed in the non-violent low-risk ward. I could go out for smokes and return without escort, although I was technically 'in custody'. I was with non-violent schizophrenics who mostly had stripped nude in psychosis while off meds, (Interesting people, I might add) and others of various mental health issues. I never once felt in any danger.

There was a high risk ward, and in fact I was in the reserves with a man who worked as a security guard at a similar high risk ward at another city hospital, and he told me a story of a girl of 20 who made over 30 2-6 inch gashes across her entire body in a bathtub, and how he pulled her nude body out so that medical staff could intervene.

After 10 days I was released and placed into a 30 day high intensity program for clinical depression at the same hospital. It changed my life, and despite still battling depression I am still here, five years later. Mainly thanks to my daughters, my lights in the dark.

In the 30 day program, I noticed that out of 30 people, only 2, me and one other, were men. I commented on this at one point, and the response I got was that most men went through with the suicide and very rarely did something stop men from actually doing it and getting help.


Jesus dude, that's terrible. You will be in my thoughts. Please continue to do well, those girls need her daddy.


/I'm a recovering addict who thanks my daughter everyday for still being here
 
2014-07-02 01:45:36 AM

gadian: UsikFark: Jackson, who is homeless, was admitted to the hospital around 10 a.m. Thursday, the day of the murder. He was put in the same room with Rios, according to his arrest report. Because of privacy laws, it is not clear why he was admitted.

A lot of the visibly homeless are batshiat crazy. There are loads of homeless people who live in their cars, wash in a sink, and try to keep dignity, but the visibly homeless ones... they are typically really crazy.

That or he's a frequent flier whenever the weather gets uncomfortable.


Probably a frequent flier, idk about the weather thing.
 
2014-07-02 01:45:50 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-07-02 01:52:19 AM
Sounds about right. I went to my AA meeting the other day and met some lovely new friends. After the meeting I took then all to the pub.
 
2014-07-02 01:54:38 AM

Pichu0102: People cry for better mental healthcare, then act surprised when people don't want to go to aslyums when the facilities have issues when they're underfunded.

Color me shocked. Actually, no, not really, just another example of the weak getting kicked while they're down more. Something society is built on, and will always be built on. Sigh.


Bang on the money. A centre up here recently had one patient essentially beat another one to death, but since the death actually occurred in the hospital some time after the patient was taken there, they could say "Noone was killed in our facility." I know someone who works there, he said patient-patient assaults and patient-staff assaults are so common they literally don't have time to officially report them all. The myth of the "gentle giant" kind of patient is just that- the big guys are the worst offenders because generating fear in the weaker patients is their only form of power.
 
2014-07-02 02:01:16 AM
Despite being a gentle bookworm, I am quite big and have been bashed so many times I resemble a boxer or thug.

That invariably means every time I get admitted to the psych hospital, I get put in the room with the scariest/most dangerous guys, as during admission the staff try to match everyone up.


Sad things is, last few times I have been in, its been all soldiers in my room. So many of them are coming back home, all busted up (inside). Makes me feel very fortunate.
 
2014-07-02 02:04:31 AM
Isolated incident. Overzealous strangler.
 
2014-07-02 02:14:08 AM
I wonder if he even tried to fight him off.
 
2014-07-02 02:19:11 AM

mcmnky: The hospital homicide is an "isolated incident," Aventura police spokesman Sgt. Chris Goranitis said Monday.

Yeah, one patient killed another. But only in that one room, so yeah, pretty much isolated to that one area where we found the body.


As neither patient was in isolation, this was an unisolated incident. The treatment was effective, however since both patients no longer appear depressed.
 
2014-07-02 02:21:28 AM
Depressed his thumbs right into his neck.
 
2014-07-02 02:25:12 AM

Boo_Guy: He was depressed, maybe he asked for it.

/it's not victim blaming when they want it.


"Worst case of suicide I ever saw"
 
2014-07-02 02:28:52 AM

Glancing Blow: Well, after all, he was one of those people: "The 32-year-old victim, diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia at a young age, had been in the hospital for two weeks."

Oh wait, so am I, only mine wasn't diagnosed until two years ago.  All along there was medication - Lithium/Lamictal - that eliminated ALL symptoms.  So, 58 years with, 2 years without.


Changed. My, Life. If only I'd had it 25 years earlier, or even just 5. Oh well, at least we've got it now.
 
2014-07-02 02:37:25 AM

nickdaisy: reveal101: I committed myself for attempted suicide about 5 years ago. I had a thorough and well planned method for a quick exit, and I was about to do it.

The image of my 6 month old daughter in my head prevented me from doing it.

I was placed in the non-violent low-risk ward. I could go out for smokes and return without escort, although I was technically 'in custody'. I was with non-violent schizophrenics who mostly had stripped nude in psychosis while off meds, (Interesting people, I might add) and others of various mental health issues. I never once felt in any danger.

There was a high risk ward, and in fact I was in the reserves with a man who worked as a security guard at a similar high risk ward at another city hospital, and he told me a story of a girl of 20 who made over 30 2-6 inch gashes across her entire body in a bathtub, and how he pulled her nude body out so that medical staff could intervene.

After 10 days I was released and placed into a 30 day high intensity program for clinical depression at the same hospital. It changed my life, and despite still battling depression I am still here, five years later. Mainly thanks to my daughters, my lights in the dark.

In the 30 day program, I noticed that out of 30 people, only 2, me and one other, were men. I commented on this at one point, and the response I got was that most men went through with the suicide and very rarely did something stop men from actually doing it and getting help.

Glad you got through that and glad you're here. Keep enjoying life!


They find that women tend to slash their wrists and/or overdose. Those aren't as fatal as it seems and leaves a longer time before they succumb. Men tend towards the more violent methods. Gunshot, hangings, jumping off or in front of something. Of course even then you'll; be surprised what you can survive.
/Read "Things I learned from my patients". One woman was pulled from underneath a train... TWICE, and she kept slashing her wrists. Another patient overdosed, and when he woke up in the ambulance he was so pissed he pulled out a six inch blade and plunged it into his chest. He still survived that.
// Also if you're going to shoot yourself do not go for the temple. You'll most likely slip and just blow out your eyes and/or the nerves for them. So now you're blind.
/// On Burnout EMT stole a quarter stick of a dynamite, put it in his mouth and lit it..... very successful. Yes it was a bad as you think it was.
 
2014-07-02 02:38:41 AM
This just in.

When asked why he choked the man to death the suspect replied, "Because he never made me laugh, not even once."
 
2014-07-02 02:40:49 AM

Loucifer: Depressed his thumbs right into his neck.


Lol
 
2014-07-02 02:47:57 AM

farkingismybusiness: At least they found a cure for his depression.


This

Plus, he was surrounded by a bunch of women who weren't happy even when they got what they claimed to want...

You SAID you didn't want him to be depressed anymore,...

Well he's not and you're still bellyaching.

/No wonder he was depressed.
 
2014-07-02 02:49:00 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com

Death Therapy, Bob. It's a guaranteed cure.
 
2014-07-02 02:55:40 AM

jwookie: Xanlexian: That's sad.

Your my last total farker I've ignored. Not sad!


I'm afraid Quizzical Dog has just sprained his neck. WTF?
 
2014-07-02 02:56:59 AM

reveal101: I committed myself for attempted suicide about 5 years ago. I had a thorough and well planned method for a quick exit, and I was about to do it.

The image of my 6 month old daughter in my head prevented me from doing it.


I've always thought that was the best reason to stick around. Some suicidal think "they'd be better off without me," but it's devastating to a child to lose a parent and it can affect them for life. Kids are also a source of joy (most of the time).

The people I'd like to hunt down and "assist" are the ones who try too take their kids with them.

I was with non-violent schizophrenics who mostly had stripped nude in psychosis while off meds, (Interesting people, I might add) and others of various mental health issues. I never once felt in any danger.

In the 30 day program, I noticed that out of 30 people, only 2, me and one other, were men.
 .

Interesting indeed.

They say don't stick it in crazy, but at least it's eye candy. That is, it would have been in my juvi ward, but maybe in adult they're more eye-bleach material.

In the 30 day program, I noticed that out of 30 people, only 2, me and one other, were men. I commented on this at one point, and the response I got was that most men went through with the suicide and very rarely did something stop men from actually doing it and getting help.

They say (misogynists!) that women attempt it for attention or as a cry for help, while guys do it because we actually want to do it.

I figure that if I did it, I'd want to be completely sure it worked. The last thing you'd want is to survive but be brain damaged or crippled.
 
2014-07-02 02:57:24 AM
reveal101: I got was that most men went through with the suicide and very rarely did something stop men from actually doing it and getting help.

Let's me try and straighten this mythology out. Historically, men have tended to be more successful at suicides because they have chosen more lethal methods of suicide than females. This was because men are usually exposed to the implements of death and therefore are more knowledgeable about it. However, the internet has had a big impact on female's knowledge of lethal methods of killing. The result is that the rate of successful suicide has been steadily increasing among females. It used to be thought that women's attempts were more likely to reflect a "call for help". We now know this isn't true and was simply a reflection of their ignorance.

In other words, the difference between those who attempt suicide and fail and those who successfully complete suicide is rarely a reflection of differences in desire, rather it is a reflection of differences in knowledge.
 
2014-07-02 03:04:51 AM
"What you here for?"

"Depression. You?"

"Anger Issues."

"Well that's stupid."
 
2014-07-02 03:11:39 AM

thatboyoverthere: They find that women tend to slash their wrists and/or overdose. Those aren't as fatal as it seems and leaves a longer time before they succumb. Men tend towards the more violent methods. Gunshot, hangings, jumping off or in front of something. Of course even then you'll; be surprised what you can survive.

/Read "Things I learned from my patients". One woman was pulled from underneath a train... TWICE, and she kept slashing her wrists.


Heard a story about an attempted suicide who touched the subway third rail. The thing is, they weren't touching anything else conductive, so it didn't kill them. They kept tapping it with their foot, getting ticked off it wasn't working.

Mondays, huh?

  // Also if you're going to shoot yourself do not go for the temple. You'll most likely slip and just blow out your eyes and/or the nerves for them. So now you're blind.

Note to self...

/// On Burnout EMT stole a quarter stick of a dynamite, put it in his mouth and lit it..... very successful. Yes it was a bad as you think it was.

See now, that's just inconsiderate. An EMT of all people should know that someone's got to clean that shiat up.

Heard about a successful train run-over. A cop was saying "it was a half-mile long crime scene and birds kept flying in to pick at the evidence."

Just thought I'd share that.
 
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