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2014-07-01 11:52:03 AM  
Unveiled Monday, the Galaxy Core II, Galaxy Star 2, Galaxy Ace 4, and Galaxy Young 2 all come with different features and different price points, but there's no way you'll be able to tell which is which based on their model names.  A Samsung spokesman explained, "we want to provide our customers with an air of mystery. Are you getting the high-end model or the low-end model? Should you really be paying $400 for this phone, or did someone switch the labels, and this is the $200 version? This all helps to make shopping fun."
 
2014-07-01 12:22:00 PM  
Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.
 
2014-07-01 02:03:19 PM  
No 1 curr.
 
2014-07-01 02:03:29 PM  
Are any of them an iPhone?
 
2014-07-01 02:06:17 PM  
how many different galaxies are there now?
 
2014-07-01 02:07:06 PM  
I'll care about a galaxy phone when it lets me phone home like ET
 
2014-07-01 02:08:16 PM  
I have an original Galaxy S.  It does everything I need it to do.

/lolwtfbbq
 
2014-07-01 02:10:00 PM  

whistleridge: Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.


TouchWiz sucks (not to mention the carrier bloatware). If you can, try CyanogenMod or one of the others. Better software on solid hardware.
 
2014-07-01 02:12:57 PM  
I'll stick with my Nexus 5, thanks.
 
2014-07-01 02:14:46 PM  

whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.


It's Touchwiz that you hate. I've got an LG G2 now (have also owned a Galaxy and an HTC One). Touchwiz isn't all bad but it's certainly not great. I prefer the Vanilla or Cyanogenmod experience myself but I'm still on the stock interface with my LG.
 
2014-07-01 02:18:16 PM  

whistleridge: Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.


I never really liked any of the Android-based phones that my friends had, when compared to my iPad and iPod Touch until my wife got a Nexus V.  It is just significantly better put-together from a UI perspective than any other Android-based phone I've ever used.
 
2014-07-01 02:21:58 PM  

sprgrss: how many different galaxies are there now?


cdn1.thefamouspeople.com
"Billions and billions."
 
2014-07-01 02:28:03 PM  

whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.


Galaxy II is terrible.  Try GS5 if you're going to compare something with a 4S.  It's on a completely different level, and operation is very smooth.
 
2014-07-01 02:33:37 PM  

The Banana Thug: whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.

Galaxy II is terrible.  Try GS5 if you're going to compare something with a 4S.  It's on a completely different level, and operation is very smooth.


A GS5 is 2 generations newer than a 4S. They are not comparable either.
 
2014-07-01 02:40:10 PM  
Samsung's not getting any of my business until they lose the central hardware button and move to the software buttons that android has supported for years now.  Why do they cling to that in every single one of their phones?
 
2014-07-01 02:42:49 PM  

sprgrss: how many different galaxies are there now?


Billions and billions.
 
2014-07-01 02:50:35 PM  

Trayal: Samsung's not getting any of my business until they lose the central hardware button and move to the software buttons that android has supported for years now.  Why do they cling to that in every single one of their phones?


static-secure.guim.co.uk
 
2014-07-01 03:00:08 PM  
Theaetetus:

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Heh.  One of the reasons I stopped using iphones is because the hardware button kept getting messed up by pocket dust.
 
2014-07-01 03:00:44 PM  

Trayal: Samsung's not getting any of my business until they lose the central hardware button and move to the software buttons that android has supported for years now.  Why do they cling to that in every single one of their phones?


Because it's more responsive than a software button during hangups or freezes, maybe.  Just a guess.
 
2014-07-01 03:11:09 PM  

Theaetetus: Trayal: Samsung's not getting any of my business until they lose the central hardware button and move to the software buttons that android has supported for years now.  Why do they cling to that in every single one of their phones?


Hah! That's what I was thinking too.

Also, having had both I've got to say, I actually prefer the hardware home button. Not enough to trade my HTC one m8 or anything, but slightly prefer it.
 
2014-07-01 03:12:56 PM  

Trayal: Samsung's not getting any of my business until they lose the central hardware button and move to the software buttons that android has supported for years now.  Why do they cling to that in every single one of their phones?


Some of us prefer hardware buttons, and I guess Samsung recognizes it.
 
2014-07-01 03:18:19 PM  
These are for emerging markets, Asia and maybe prepaid. These are not necessarily for the US.

I will take a hardware button over on screen buttons anyday.

You cannot compare the most recent version of Touchwiz to anything that has come before. It is leaps and bounds ahead. Yeah Sense 6 is still better, but if you had an older Samsung phone, STFU until you have tried the newest ones.
 
2014-07-01 03:37:48 PM  

whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.


I have an HTC One, and it's rock solid. I don't get any buggy, or jittery problems from it at all. I got rid of my iPhone 5 for it's tendency to not get calls. I won't go back to iOS for a phone. I do like my iPad over the other Android offerings out there.
Perhaps you should check out the newer Android phones, and something other then the Samsung.
 
2014-07-01 03:38:04 PM  

whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.


I think I found your problem...

/say what you will about Samsung phones, but in my experience they are hands down the most reliable
//the fact that this guy's 3 year old model is still ticking, despite showing its age, is a testament to this

///am tempted to give HTC another chance though, seeing as they have seemed to realize that shipping half broken devices to market is not the best business strategy
 
2014-07-01 03:39:42 PM  

ampoliros: whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.

It's Touchwiz that you hate. I've got an LG G2 now (have also owned a Galaxy and an HTC One). Touchwiz isn't all bad but it's certainly not great. I prefer the Vanilla or Cyanogenmod experience myself but I'm still on the stock interface with my LG.


G2 kicks ass. Android runs silky smooth on it.
 
2014-07-01 03:50:27 PM  
Make a smartphone that works like the rest, is inexpensive and can be dropped 1-2 times per day at chest level.   Can get wet, can be left in a hot or cold car, with a long battery life.   Then I will buy one.
 
2014-07-01 04:25:49 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: ampoliros: whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.

It's Touchwiz that you hate. I've got an LG G2 now (have also owned a Galaxy and an HTC One). Touchwiz isn't all bad but it's certainly not great. I prefer the Vanilla or Cyanogenmod experience myself but I'm still on the stock interface with my LG.

G2 kicks ass. Android runs silky smooth on it.


My only complaint is the hyper sensative Swype program for their keyboard....
other than that, I love my G2 as well
 
2014-07-01 04:46:37 PM  

Trayal: Samsung's not getting any of my business until they lose the central hardware button and move to the software buttons that android has supported for years now.  Why do they cling to that in every single one of their phones?


Funny.  Main reason I haven't bought a Sony Xperia Z2 yet is because they have software buttons.  Even the physical buttons on the Galaxy S are subpar because they don't provide any tactile feedback the way the buttons on my BB Torch are.
 
2014-07-01 05:26:30 PM  

sprgrss: how many different galaxies are there now?


BILLions and BILLions.
 
2014-07-01 05:28:08 PM  

SpdrJay: sprgrss: how many different galaxies are there now?

Billions and billions.


Dammit, I didn't scroll far enough.
 
2014-07-01 05:50:15 PM  

rev. dave: Make a smartphone that works like the rest, is inexpensive and can be dropped 1-2 times per day at chest level.   Can get wet, can be left in a hot or cold car, with a long battery life.   Then I will buy one.


sounds like you want my s4 active I have abused the hell out of that thing. my wife got it for me the day it came out due to how hard I was on phones and needing a new one almost every three months. all it has on it is a basic $19 case and its been dropped in a river from a roof I don't know how many times I watched it fall and thought that was for the last time. all the buttons work fine most amazing phone ever. I doubted it would last a week when she handed it to me.

the down side is now I have to keep putting up with I told you so from my wife every time I talk about it

//hope she does not see this post
 
2014-07-01 06:42:48 PM  

whipbambucket: SpdrJay: sprgrss: how many different galaxies are there now?

Billions and billions.

Dammit, I didn't scroll far enough.


That's ok, somebody else did it above me with a picture....

I didn't see it either.

Because posting on fark makes you retarded.
 
2014-07-01 07:43:34 PM  

Dinjiin: Trayal: Samsung's not getting any of my business until they lose the central hardware button and move to the software buttons that android has supported for years now.  Why do they cling to that in every single one of their phones?

Funny.  Main reason I haven't bought a Sony Xperia Z2 yet is because they have software buttons.  Even the physical buttons on the Galaxy S are subpar because they don't provide any tactile feedback the way the buttons on my BB Torch are.



Blackberry? BLACKBERRY?!?!?!

Ewwwwwwwwwww!!!!

Oh god, don't let the filthy Blackberry user touch me!!!
 
2014-07-01 10:38:53 PM  
Samsumg: Here's a program we think you'll like.

Me: No thank you.

Samsung: Well, we're uploading to your phone.

Me: But I don't want it.

Samsung: You're going to like it. It'll allow you to use phone instead of loyalty cards for various stores in the US.

Me: But I live in Canada and it doesn't work here. Can I uninstall it? It's pointlessly taking up space on my phone.

Samsung: No!

/Fark Samsung
 
2014-07-02 01:50:39 AM  

Omis: Samsumg: Here's a program we think you'll like.

Me: No thank you.

Samsung: Well, we're uploading to your phone.

Me: But I don't want it.

Samsung: You're going to like it. It'll allow you to use phone instead of loyalty cards for various stores in the US.

Me: But I live in Canada and it doesn't work here. Can I uninstall it? It's pointlessly taking up space on my phone.

Samsung: No!

/Fark Samsung

 Dude, just turn on Developer Tools.  You can turn off any app that annoys you.
 
2014-07-02 01:57:48 AM  

rev. dave: Make a smartphone that works like the rest, is inexpensive and can be dropped 1-2 times per day at chest level.   Can get wet, can be left in a hot or cold car, with a long battery life.   Then I will buy one.


Ya if it can't do all that then we'll stick with our old flip phones!!

/not really
//from my s2
 
2014-07-02 06:19:49 AM  

sprgrss: how many different galaxies are there now?



According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least  one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.
 
2014-07-02 07:37:24 AM  

Z-clipped: Omis: Samsumg: Here's a program we think you'll like.

Me: No thank you.

Samsung: Well, we're uploading to your phone.

Me: But I don't want it.

Samsung: You're going to like it. It'll allow you to use phone instead of loyalty cards for various stores in the US.

Me: But I live in Canada and it doesn't work here. Can I uninstall it? It's pointlessly taking up space on my phone.

Samsung: No!

/Fark Samsung
 Dude, just turn on Developer Tools.  You can turn off any app that annoys you.


Not quite the same as removing unwanted apps. The point is Samsung is deciding to install them without my permission and wont let me uninstall it. Damn phone is bloated enough as it is without them adding more after the fact.
 
2014-07-02 09:39:50 AM  
I bought a GS3 partly because it was the most popular phone, and my last phone was followed by about six new iterations before my contract was up. Little did I know that Samsung was going to release fifteen new galaxy phones that largely look and work the same before my contract was up
 
2014-07-02 11:26:26 AM  
I'm not drinking the Apple kool-aid nor am I an ifanboy, but I still have an iPhone 4.  It was my first smart phone after dropping a dumb phone and it has been stellar for over 3 years now.  The only problem I have with it is the battery life has diminished significantly in the past few months, but otherwise it has survived falls with a cheap rubbery cover and has performed flawlessly.  My only exposure to Android phones is a friend having a Droid years back and my wife getting the Motorola Razor Maxx.  Both of those were horrible.

I don't need my phone to do everything for me.  I need it to take pictures of my kid, make and receive calls and texts, and allow me to play some fun time wasting games from time to time(Simpsons Tapped Out).  I don't want to have to reprogram a phone or use a different software that came with it.  Ain't nobody got time for that.

For me, the iPhone just works well and simply.  I'll probably get the iPhone 6 when it comes out because so far the 4 has lasted me longer than anything previously.
 
2014-07-02 01:06:11 PM  

Omis: Not quite the same as removing unwanted apps.


Then take 5-10 minutes to root your phone, and actually uninstall whatever you want.  Or, you could just ignore my attempt to help you and just keep grinding that axe, since that's obviously why you're here.

"Oh noes, a hardware retailer installed some software!  Whatever shall I do?"
 
2014-07-02 01:22:46 PM  

whistleridge: Meh.

Hardware wise, the Galaxy is a solid, even amazing phone. It has a number of features that blow the iPhone away - and I am an iPhone user.

The problem is, Android blows. It's buggy, jittery, and the apps suck. Hard.

Maybe the version of Android that Google uses is better, but the version on Samsung phones is enough to keep me from transitioning. My personal phone is a 4S, but my work phone is a Galaxy II, and I hate it. Just as soon as I can, I will turn it in and transition to the available iOS device instead.

Which is sad, because I was excited when I got it. iFanbois annoy the hell out of me, and I was really hoping to find a viable alternative. Disappointing, really.


What version of android are you using on the Galaxy 2?

4.3 and 4.4 are a lot better but I will blame Samsung on the issues you complain about. Touchwiz is garbage.

I would say root just to remove it and run stock android but if it's a work phone, I wouldn't bother.
 
2014-07-02 05:55:52 PM  

Z-clipped: Omis: Not quite the same as removing unwanted apps.

Then take 5-10 minutes to root your phone, and actually uninstall whatever you want.  Or, you could just ignore my attempt to help you and just keep grinding that axe, since that's obviously why you're here.

"Oh noes, a hardware retailer installed some software!  Whatever shall I do?"


Yes I could always root the phone and void the warranty. Or Samsung could stop installing apps on my phone without my permission. But that would be too obvious.

/Fark Samsung
 
2014-07-02 07:10:12 PM  

Z-clipped: Omis: Not quite the same as removing unwanted apps.

Then take 5-10 minutes to root your phone, and actually uninstall whatever you want.  Or, you could just ignore my attempt to help you and just keep grinding that axe, since that's obviously why you're here.

"Oh noes, a hardware retailer installed some software!  Whatever shall I do?"


Android was supposed to the "open" OS. There are like 3 programs you can't instantly uninstall from Windows, and I think the hurdle is you have to check a certain box somewhere. Phones should come rooted, I shouldn't have to dick around on the internet and read a dozen lines of "THIS MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE" and arguments between dipshiats to uninstall some shiat I never asked for.
 
2014-07-02 11:49:00 PM  

Omis: Z-clipped: Omis: Not quite the same as removing unwanted apps.

Then take 5-10 minutes to root your phone, and actually uninstall whatever you want.  Or, you could just ignore my attempt to help you and just keep grinding that axe, since that's obviously why you're here.

"Oh noes, a hardware retailer installed some software!  Whatever shall I do?"

Yes I could always root the phone and void the warranty. Or Samsung could stop installing apps on my phone without my permission. But that would be too obvious.

/Fark Samsung


OK, man.  Whatever.  I use the Note series from Samsung because they have a badass stylus that you can't get on any other mainstream phone or tablet, and some of the Samsung apps for it are farking awesome.  I hate Flipboard and Google+ as much as anybody, so I just turn them off.  What I don't do is act like a little crybaby about it. Jeez.  It's really not a big deal.

moothemagiccow: Android was supposed to the "open" OS.


For developers, yes.  And the incredible number of available custom ROMs is a testament to this.

moothemagiccow: Phones should come rooted, I shouldn't have to dick around on the internet and read a dozen lines of "THIS MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE" and arguments between dipshiats to uninstall some shiat I never asked for.


Is it better to allow all users the freedom to brick their phones right out of the box by accidentally or ignorantly uninstalling system software, or does it make sense to have a nominal hurdle to jump that takes 5 minutes and the barest tiny amount of technical skill?

moothemagiccow: There are like 3 programs you can't instantly uninstall from Windows, and I think the hurdle is you have to check a certain box somewhere.


Is that what you think?  LOL.  Never tried to uninstall IE, huh?  Or Safari from OS X? You can't.  Sure, you can ask it to uninstall, and Windows will tell you "OK, it's gone", but it isn't really.  There are an enormous number of programs and utilities that are integrated into Windows.

I'll reiterate... you can "turn off" all of Samsung's bloatware.  It won't open, it won't update, won't bother you again, and won't be listed among your apps except under App Manager.  If you MUST have it gone completely, you can root your phone in 5 minutes, and you can skip reading the disclaimers if you want.

Whining that Samsung included some apps and made them hard to arbitrarily delete because they're integrated with one another to a degree several orders of magnitude greater than anything on your Windows machine is really stupid.
 
2014-07-03 12:35:31 AM  

Z-clipped: Omis: Z-clipped: Omis: Not quite the same as removing unwanted apps.

Then take 5-10 minutes to root your phone, and actually uninstall whatever you want.  Or, you could just ignore my attempt to help you and just keep grinding that axe, since that's obviously why you're here.

"Oh noes, a hardware retailer installed some software!  Whatever shall I do?"

Yes I could always root the phone and void the warranty. Or Samsung could stop installing apps on my phone without my permission. But that would be too obvious.

/Fark Samsung

OK, man.  Whatever.  I use the Note series from Samsung because they have a badass stylus that you can't get on any other mainstream phone or tablet, and some of the Samsung apps for it are farking awesome.  I hate Flipboard and Google+ as much as anybody, so I just turn them off.  What I don't do is act like a little crybaby about it. Jeez.  It's really not a big deal.

moothemagiccow: Android was supposed to the "open" OS.

For developers, yes.  And the incredible number of available custom ROMs is a testament to this.

moothemagiccow: Phones should come rooted, I shouldn't have to dick around on the internet and read a dozen lines of "THIS MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE" and arguments between dipshiats to uninstall some shiat I never asked for.

Is it better to allow all users the freedom to brick their phones right out of the box by accidentally or ignorantly uninstalling system software, or does it make sense to have a nominal hurdle to jump that takes 5 minutes and the barest tiny amount of technical skill?

moothemagiccow: There are like 3 programs you can't instantly uninstall from Windows, and I think the hurdle is you have to check a certain box somewhere.

Is that what you think?  LOL.  Never tried to uninstall IE, huh?  Or Safari from OS X? You can't.  Sure, you can ask it to uninstall, and Windows will tell you "OK, it's gone", but it isn't really.  There are an enormous number of programs and utilities that are integrated into Windows.

I'll reiterate... you can "turn off" all of Samsung's bloatware.  It won't open, it won't update, won't bother you again, and won't be listed among your apps except under App Manager.  If you MUST have it gone completely, you can root your phone in 5 minutes, and you can skip reading the disclaimers if you want.

Whining that Samsung included some apps and made them hard to arbitrarily delete because they're integrated with one another to a degree several orders of magnitude greater than anything on your Windows machine is really stupid.


im not whining that samsung preloaded useless apps. Im complaining about them uploading and installing them after the fact. Ones I would never have known were there if it hadnt start spamming my notifications when it got updated. Ones that have permissions to:

make calls
read/edit/send text messages
use camera
record audio
read search history
read/edit contacts
etc

I disabled it and uninstalled the update. And guess what? Samsung reinstalled it. You'd have to be some kind of fanboi and have your head so far up Samsungs arse, to not think there's something a little bit wrong with that.
 
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