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2014-07-01 01:33:26 PM
No DIR.
 
2014-07-01 02:36:01 PM
did he open a GUI interface to track counter battery fire?
 
2014-07-01 02:38:35 PM
Yeah, I hate to break it to him, but awards like ARCOMMS are given out like candy for deployments like that. The programming bit was likely one of the things listed as for why he "deserved" the medal. Typically if you're an E-4P through E-6 you get an ARCOMM as a deployment medal. If you're an E-4 non promotable you'll get an AAM. E-7 and above you'll get an MSM.
 
2014-07-01 02:41:08 PM
Death Wears Bunny Slippers 501st Keyboard Brigade for life!
 
2014-07-01 03:03:37 PM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: did he open a GUI interface to track counter battery fire?


I believe he used Visual Basic to hack the IPs.
 
2014-07-01 03:09:23 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: ARCOMM


In the Air Force it was common practice to get one to most airmen who re-located bases, always awarded after the fact at the new base.(or maybe it's just some bases or squadron's tendency, but I've got one)  It's just what it sounds like, a commendation....very similar to a current employer writing a good recommendation letter.

I was an e-3 at the time, a year and a half at my first station(as did everyone I knew from the same base, it's all about image, not so much performance if you meet a minimum of behavior and such).  About the only people who didn't get one from the place I got mine were real shiatbags.

And yes, it is just a bullet from his performance reviews.  In writing one of those, a task often handed down to the actual person, it's recommended that you use works like "streamline", "spearhead", etc etc. Military version of boardroom buzzwords like "synergy" to make things sound better than they are.

And the article writer doesn't sound like he's got any experience with the field.  Surprise, *yawn* .
 
2014-07-01 03:09:55 PM
DOS is for idiots.

Why the fark would I want a resource-efficient, stable OS for simple apps when I could be enjoying the excessive bloat and resource overhead that an often unnecessary GUI can offer.
 
2014-07-01 03:13:25 PM

Crudbucket: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: did he open a GUI interface to track counter battery fire?

I believe he used Visual Basic to hack the IPs.


dammit...left out the VB part...
 
2014-07-01 03:32:46 PM

omeganuepsilon: Dingleberry Dickwad: ARCOMM

In the Air Force it was common practice to get one to most airmen who re-located bases, always awarded after the fact at the new base.(or maybe it's just some bases or squadron's tendency, but I've got one)  It's just what it sounds like, a commendation....very similar to a current employer writing a good recommendation letter.

I was an e-3 at the time, a year and a half at my first station(as did everyone I knew from the same base, it's all about image, not so much performance if you meet a minimum of behavior and such).  About the only people who didn't get one from the place I got mine were real shiatbags.

And yes, it is just a bullet from his performance reviews.  In writing one of those, a task often handed down to the actual person, it's recommended that you use works like "streamline", "spearhead", etc etc. Military version of boardroom buzzwords like "synergy" to make things sound better than they are.

And the article writer doesn't sound like he's got any experience with the field.  Surprise, *yawn* .


Army practice for PCS (Permanent Change of Station) was pretty much the same as the deployment award stuff I listed, provided you weren't a dirtbag, but if you got an award for deployment while in that unit, you either didn't get shiat, or you got an award one step down from what I listed.
 
2014-07-01 03:45:48 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: DOS is for idiots.

Why the fark would I want a resource-efficient, stable OS for simple apps when I could be enjoying the excessive bloat and resource overhead that an often unnecessary GUI can offer.


Not sure if trolling, or just old.

/gets off lawn, just to be safe
 
2014-07-01 04:00:53 PM
No HERO tag?
 
2014-07-01 04:02:17 PM
One reader wrote that he picked up VBA while stationed in Afghanistan with the Canadian Army and used it to automate and speed up a number of things in Excel, including ordering medical evacuations for injured personnel.

Excel can be used for lots of cool stuff, but WTF?
 
2014-07-01 04:06:48 PM

BMFPitt: One reader wrote that he picked up VBA while stationed in Afghanistan with the Canadian Army and used it to automate and speed up a number of things in Excel, including ordering medical evacuations for injured personnel.

Excel can be used for lots of cool stuff, but WTF?


The aircraft may be metal, but the times, locations, and mission are all numbers and words.
 
2014-07-01 04:33:06 PM
I never got anything for cleanup of their BS and making it faster.

Don't need a medal, cash works.
 
2014-07-01 05:14:50 PM
What's wrong with DOS? Use what works for your job requirements.
 
2014-07-01 05:51:02 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: omeganuepsilon: Dingleberry Dickwad: ARCOMM

In the Air Force it was common practice to get one to most airmen who re-located bases, always awarded after the fact at the new base.(or maybe it's just some bases or squadron's tendency, but I've got one)  It's just what it sounds like, a commendation....very similar to a current employer writing a good recommendation letter.

I was an e-3 at the time, a year and a half at my first station(as did everyone I knew from the same base, it's all about image, not so much performance if you meet a minimum of behavior and such).  About the only people who didn't get one from the place I got mine were real shiatbags.

And yes, it is just a bullet from his performance reviews.  In writing one of those, a task often handed down to the actual person, it's recommended that you use works like "streamline", "spearhead", etc etc. Military version of boardroom buzzwords like "synergy" to make things sound better than they are.

And the article writer doesn't sound like he's got any experience with the field.  Surprise, *yawn* .

Army practice for PCS (Permanent Change of Station) was pretty much the same as the deployment award stuff I listed, provided you weren't a dirtbag, but if you got an award for deployment while in that unit, you either didn't get shiat, or you got an award one step down from what I listed.


I got an AAM as a PFC for actually doing something good. When it was time for me to ETS, I didn't get shiat. "Sorry SPC Bopper, you already got an award. No medal for you".
 
2014-07-01 06:27:18 PM
It's good to have another combat veteran around here.  I myself received a number of medals for securing that Montgomery Ward in Kuwait City.
 
2014-07-01 06:31:07 PM

Precision Boobery: It's good to have another combat veteran around here.  I myself received a number of medals for securing that Montgomery Ward in Kuwait City.


I'm a veteran of the Psychic Wars, if you consider SIGINT psychic.
 
2014-07-01 06:33:39 PM

dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: omeganuepsilon: Dingleberry Dickwad: ARCOMM

In the Air Force it was common practice to get one to most airmen who re-located bases, always awarded after the fact at the new base.(or maybe it's just some bases or squadron's tendency, but I've got one)  It's just what it sounds like, a commendation....very similar to a current employer writing a good recommendation letter.

I was an e-3 at the time, a year and a half at my first station(as did everyone I knew from the same base, it's all about image, not so much performance if you meet a minimum of behavior and such).  About the only people who didn't get one from the place I got mine were real shiatbags.

And yes, it is just a bullet from his performance reviews.  In writing one of those, a task often handed down to the actual person, it's recommended that you use works like "streamline", "spearhead", etc etc. Military version of boardroom buzzwords like "synergy" to make things sound better than they are.

And the article writer doesn't sound like he's got any experience with the field.  Surprise, *yawn* .

Army practice for PCS (Permanent Change of Station) was pretty much the same as the deployment award stuff I listed, provided you weren't a dirtbag, but if you got an award for deployment while in that unit, you either didn't get shiat, or you got an award one step down from what I listed.

I got an AAM as a PFC for actually doing something good. When it was time for me to ETS, I didn't get shiat. "Sorry SPC Bopper, you already got an award. No medal for you".


It was kind of the same for me. I didn't get shiat for ETS like a number of other folks I knew did. Granted I'd had a couple AAM's from other stuff and the ARCOMM from my deployment to Iraq. ETS time came and it was "Sorry SGT. Dickwad, you've gotten 4 different awards/medals in the 5 years since you've been here, and we're not giving you another ARCOMM since you got one 7 months ago for Iraq. Good luck in the civillian world." Bastards never got me my 3rd GCM either, despite hitting my 9 year mark a month before I got out.
 
2014-07-01 06:52:05 PM
OH NOES I NEEDS DA NEWEST STUFFS OR ELSE!!11!!

If it works, it works.
 
2014-07-01 06:57:35 PM
The restaurant where I work still uses software written in DOS, as I'm guessing does a million other business out there.  You own the software, it works, you don't want to spend lots of money rewriting everything from scratch and then rebuying all your computer equipment, which probably wouldn't work with windows.
 
2014-07-01 06:58:30 PM
Want a really old DOS program? Download Visicalc here:  http://www.bricklin.com/history/vcexecutable.htm for free, direct from original author.
 
2014-07-01 07:25:26 PM
They give out there type of awards fairly often, at least they did when i served.

Basically the equivalent of the Navy and Marine Corps achievement medal, i think i have 11 in my record, got copies of 8 of them but 11 in my record, was awarded 13 but didn't bother to make them put them all in the record since i capped out in points after 6.

 Saw my roommate get one for putting out a fire with a co2 Extinguisher, he could have just stepped on it to be honest. Just happen to be the XO was walking past and saw it happen gave him an award on the spot since it was just after we had a string of mishaps. Gave him another one within 3 months for saving the Squadron some money on parts.
 
2014-07-01 07:36:43 PM
This was in active service in the US Navy until the mid 90's.   No integrated circuitry at all.  32Kb of God's own core memory.  Water cooled.  2400lbs out of the box.

It did exactly what you told it to.

archive.computerhistory.org

/ CP-642B
// "B" is for "biatches"
 
2014-07-01 07:37:14 PM

Luven: They give out there type of awards fairly often, at least they did when i served.

Basically the equivalent of the Navy and Marine Corps achievement medal, i think i have 11 in my record, got copies of 8 of them but 11 in my record, was awarded 13 but didn't bother to make them put them all in the record since i capped out in points after 6.

 Saw my roommate get one for putting out a fire with a co2 Extinguisher, he could have just stepped on it to be honest. Just happen to be the XO was walking past and saw it happen gave him an award on the spot since it was just after we had a string of mishaps. Gave him another one within 3 months for saving the Squadron some money on parts.


It's a step above a Navy and Marine Corp Achievement medal. The Army has an Army Achievement Medal (AAM) that's given out like candy to the lower enlisted. The Army Commendation medal (ARCOMM) is a step above that, kinda like an NCO and Officer version of an AAM, just not given as often.
 
2014-07-01 09:39:46 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Achievement Medal (AAM) that's given out like candy to the lower enlisted.


My bad, that's what I was thinking above(pcs'ing lower ranking airmen all getting one), but commendations were only slightly more rare, and then meritorious service for e5 and up.
/been out about 10 years, it's a bit hazy
//still think I may have a AFCM as well, but that's just as meaningless
///don't even have the ambition to dig out my dd214 and look
////I know one didn't get listed, and that bugs me(I think the one everyone got for being in during 911 maybe..)
//I did have a very good knack for things not getting to be official on paper, a blessing and a curse

I was attempting to support, however, what you said, you get kind of depends on what rank you are, and is kind of meaningless(a nice gesture and good for morale, sure, but any moron can and do receive them, they don't "mean much" as far as being necessarily indicative of your actual performance). You don't give an E7 an Achievement, he gets a Meritorious Service medal(msm), an e3 NEVER gets a MSM, he gets an achievement....
Commendation kind of bridges that gap from just before and just after NCO(e4-e5 in the AF)

/IIRC at any rate

IMO, it's medal inflation.  No one wants to have to go to an official dinner and have like 3 ribbons on his rack, and some people that see so few ribbons kind of feel pity and/or treated poorly.  If a near-dirtbag like me can get 6 in six years(no combat and not a sharpshooter), they don't mean much, not what the typical starry eyed civilian(article author) thinks of as a medal having significance at any rate.  That's the other reason, it looks good to civilians, it's an effective PR move to have that soldier picture in the newspaper with a good handful of ribbons on his chest.
 
2014-07-01 10:08:08 PM
FTA: Paliath took the initiative to write Perl scripts and Excel macros to automate and greatly speed up many of his tasks.

Why do I have the feeling that he got a medal for something that wouldn't be out of place on The Daily WTF?
 
2014-07-02 01:04:36 AM

dukeblue219: What's wrong with DOS? Use what works for your job requirements.


Eddie Adams from Torrance: DOS is for idiots.

Why the fark would I want a resource-efficient, stable OS for simple apps when I could be enjoying the excessive bloat and resource overhead that an often unnecessary GUI can offer.


cretinbob: OH NOES I NEEDS DA NEWEST STUFFS OR ELSE!!11!!

If it works, it works.


You know how I know y'all didn't read the article? It wasn't working. It wasn't fulfilling their needs. It was error prone and time consuming.
 
2014-07-02 01:41:26 AM

Dingleberry Dickwad: dittybopper: Dingleberry Dickwad: omeganuepsilon: Dingleberry Dickwad: ARCOMM

In the Air Force it was common practice to get one to most airmen who re-located bases, always awarded after the fact at the new base.(or maybe it's just some bases or squadron's tendency, but I've got one)  It's just what it sounds like, a commendation....very similar to a current employer writing a good recommendation letter.

I was an e-3 at the time, a year and a half at my first station(as did everyone I knew from the same base, it's all about image, not so much performance if you meet a minimum of behavior and such).  About the only people who didn't get one from the place I got mine were real shiatbags.

And yes, it is just a bullet from his performance reviews.  In writing one of those, a task often handed down to the actual person, it's recommended that you use works like "streamline", "spearhead", etc etc. Military version of boardroom buzzwords like "synergy" to make things sound better than they are.

And the article writer doesn't sound like he's got any experience with the field.  Surprise, *yawn* .

Army practice for PCS (Permanent Change of Station) was pretty much the same as the deployment award stuff I listed, provided you weren't a dirtbag, but if you got an award for deployment while in that unit, you either didn't get shiat, or you got an award one step down from what I listed.

I got an AAM as a PFC for actually doing something good. When it was time for me to ETS, I didn't get shiat. "Sorry SPC Bopper, you already got an award. No medal for you".

It was kind of the same for me. I didn't get shiat for ETS like a number of other folks I knew did. Granted I'd had a couple AAM's from other stuff and the ARCOMM from my deployment to Iraq. ETS time came and it was "Sorry SGT. Dickwad, you've gotten 4 different awards/medals in the 5 years since you've been here, and we're not giving you another ARCOMM since you got one 7 months ago for Iraq. Good luck in the civillian w ...


Is calling an ARCOM an ARCOMM a meme around here that I'm not aware of?
 
2014-07-02 07:20:47 AM

Jsin82: Is calling an ARCOM an ARCOMM a meme around here that I'm not aware of?


Nah, looks like my memory was wrong. I could have sworn there was 2 m's when you shortened it like that.
 
2014-07-02 07:57:12 AM
I have two Navy/Marine Corps Achievement Medals (NAM) for an Excel spreadsheet to track flight hours.  Don't get me wrong, I really wanted those medals and I am proud to have received them, but I was in the Navy at a time when computers were not commonly in use in workspaces, circa '95.

I was trained on how to track our squadron's flight hours and fuel costs, every day tracking the cost per hour over the previous week, month, quarter, and year.  Then we'd project how many flight hours we could afford to fly at current rates, also for the next week, month, quarter, and year.  I was trained on this with a mechanical pencil and a scrolling receipt-style calculator.  It was a three to four hour training session and the job itself took two to three hours.  The entire time, my supervisor was resting his coffee cup on an unopened box marked "DELL."

I asked him what that box contained and he explained it was the new computer that had come in last week, he just hadn't gotten around to opening it.  Six months later, four squadrons in my airwing were using the spreadsheet I made to do that job, and my boss was mad because now he had to (his words) "find a way to look busy all morning."

It was a good time to be a nerd in the Navy.
 
2014-07-02 09:49:50 AM

MrEricSir: FTA: Paliath took the initiative to write Perl scripts and Excel macros to automate and greatly speed up many of his tasks.

Why do I have the feeling that he got a medal for something that wouldn't be out of place on The Daily WTF?


Yup. In a normal enterprise environment this would just be an expected solution. If you aren't scripting your repetitive work you're no good at your job.

I guess the difference is that in the military you get a medal, and in the corporate world you get paid three times as much as the military guy. I'll stick with the cash.
 
2014-07-02 02:08:11 PM
So the military has "participation" awards? I thought they were above that.

//all I ever get when I do good work in the private sector is more work
//and cash
// buckets filled with cash
 
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