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(Politico)   The Congressional Black Caucus would like to remind MS Sen Thad Cochran that the negro community has a big huge marker with his name on it, and they intend to use it   (politico.com) divider line 93
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2014-06-30 02:15:51 PM  
Are you suggesting that the African-American community might be frowning upon Senator Cochran's shenanigans?
 
2014-06-30 02:16:48 PM  
If they go for anything other than him helping them champion a new Voting Rights Act with bigger, sharper teeth and claws than the last one, they're short-sighted fools.

Food stamps? Poverty programs? Education? All desirable and commendable, and they'd be wonderful for the short term; but a VRA 2.0 could help them get the political leverage they need for all that in the long haul.
 
2014-06-30 02:23:36 PM  

abb3w: VRA 2.0 could help them get the political leverage they need for all that in the long haul.


that would be great if his first act after the election would be introducing that in the Senate
 
2014-06-30 02:29:56 PM  

somedude210: abb3w: VRA 2.0 could help them get the political leverage they need for all that in the long haul.

that would be great if his first act after the election would be introducing that in the Senate


He'd better do it or he's screwed. Nobody is going to come to his rescue when the next, even crazier Tea-tard, runs against him in the primary. The blacks he keeps away from the polls next time around won't be able to vote for him if they wanted to.
 
2014-06-30 02:31:21 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: He'd better do it or he's screwed. Nobody is going to come to his rescue when the next, even crazier Tea-tard, runs against him in the primary. The blacks he keeps away from the polls next time around won't be able to vote for him if they wanted to.


true, but you're also assuming either he'll run in 6 years or that there'll be a Tea'tard running.

/yeah yeah, I know. It's the South
//they shall rise again and whatnot
 
2014-06-30 02:34:54 PM  

somedude210: true, but you're also assuming either he'll run in 6 years or that there'll be a Tea'tard running.


Another campaign seems unlikely for him in 2020, true, but if the TP will remain anywhere it is in the Deep South.  They tend to hold on to things for a very, very long time in Missip'.
 
2014-06-30 02:35:24 PM  
That's hilarious that the black caucus thinks that this guy is going to do anything but continue to ignore their wants.
 
2014-06-30 02:47:52 PM  
Hasn't he already said this is likely his last term?  He'll either go rogue and give them everything they want, or ignore them.  It's not like it will affect him one way or another once the general election is over.
 
2014-06-30 02:54:27 PM  

Lsherm: Hasn't he already said this is likely his last term?  He'll either go rogue and give them everything they want, or ignore them.  It's not like it will affect him one way or another once the general election is over.


The only thing it might impact is the length of the eventual line to piss on his grave.

No, I take that back; it probably won't affect the length, only the racial composition.
 
2014-06-30 03:03:09 PM  
"Thad Cochran won a primary runoff by turning out the black vote. Now they are asking - what are you going to do for us?"

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2014-06-30 03:03:54 PM  

Lsherm: Hasn't he already said this is likely his last term?  He'll either go rogue and give them everything they want, or ignore them.  It's not like it will affect him one way or another once the general election is over.


It won't affect him one way or another before the general election.  This is Mississippi we're talking about, the only way the African American voters can influence the election is if they have a 100% turnout.  MS has been making laws for decades to prevent that from happening.
 
2014-06-30 03:04:05 PM  

abb3w: Food stamps? Poverty programs? Education? All desirable and commendable, and they'd be wonderful for the short term; but a VRA 2.0 could help them get the political leverage they need for all that in the long haul.


agreed. play the long game.
 
2014-06-30 03:05:58 PM  

Lando Lincoln: That's hilarious that the black caucus thinks that this guy is going to do anything but continue to ignore their wants.


It's not like he was relying on their support before.
 
2014-06-30 03:06:09 PM  
This situation sort of reminds me of a rule I lay down in every board game I play with friends,  "The only binding deals are quid pro quo exchanges that happen at the same time.  Everything else: free rides, first pic of a future draw, alliances, etc., is taken on faith alone."

I'm pretty sure Congress works the same way.  The Congressional Black Caucus would be wise to remember that.
 
2014-06-30 03:08:49 PM  

cendojr: Lsherm: Hasn't he already said this is likely his last term?  He'll either go rogue and give them everything they want, or ignore them.  It's not like it will affect him one way or another once the general election is over.

It won't affect him one way or another before the general election.  This is Mississippi we're talking about, the only way the African American voters can influence the election is if they have a 100% turnout.  MS has been making laws for decades to prevent that from happening.


That's a bit of hyperbole. MS has the highest per capita population of blacks. They already do influence elections.
 
2014-06-30 03:16:18 PM  
The Congressional Black Caucus would like to remind MS Sen Thad Cochran that the negro community has a big huge marker with his name on it, and they intend to use it


what?  are they gonna color him black?
 
2014-06-30 03:17:59 PM  

cendojr: It won't affect him one way or another before the general election. This is Mississippi we're talking about, the only way the African American voters can influence the election is if they have a 100% turnout. MS has been making laws for decades to prevent that from happening.


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2014-06-30 03:19:59 PM  
The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.
 
2014-06-30 03:20:05 PM  

Lsherm: Hasn't he already said this is likely his last term?  He'll either go rogue and give them everything they want, or ignore them.  It's not like it will affect him one way or another once the general election is over.


It won't affect him before the general election either.  He faced his only real challenger already.

factoryconnection: Another campaign seems unlikely for him in 2020, true, but if the TP will remain anywhere it is in the Deep South.  They tend to hold on to things for a very, very long time in Missip'.


Gettin' on 150 years now, ya'll.  Ain't gonna let it go, no how.  Before it was about principle, now it's about tradition.
 
2014-06-30 03:20:57 PM  

Frank N Stein: That's a bit of hyperbole. MS has the highest per capita population of blacks. They already do influence elections.


Yes, and statewide office holders in MS show the product of that influence.
 
2014-06-30 03:21:13 PM  

Brick-House: The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.


They'll show up.  Never stopped you from posting on Fark.
 
2014-06-30 03:22:02 PM  
What do they think he is going to propose?

Tax breaks for the wealthy and less environmental regulations?
 
2014-06-30 03:22:53 PM  
Blacks to Thad Cochran everyone: You owe us

/surprised no one did that yet
//neither serious nor trolling
 
2014-06-30 03:25:08 PM  
That's a nice election he just won. Be a shame if something happened to him, er, it.
 
2014-06-30 03:27:28 PM  

mrshowrules: Brick-House: The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.

They'll show up.  Never stopped you from posting on Fark.


Just like the beaten up wife returns to her cheating husband.
 
2014-06-30 03:29:37 PM  

Brick-House: The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.


Dont like being called a racist? Dont be a racist. Easy
 
2014-06-30 03:39:48 PM  
This might be a successful new strategy for southern blacks (and Democrats of all races in general). In areas where Republicans have a dominant political advantage, especially where no Democratic candidate is fielded or the one who is fielded is guaranteed to lose, have them put their support behind the moderate Republican over the Tea Party/extreme right-wing conservative. That way two things are accomplished. First you keep Tea Party and other hardcore right wing candidate from being put in power and marginalize the derp, but you also put in office a moderate who has to take your views into consideration.
 
2014-06-30 03:40:10 PM  

abb3w: If they go for anything other than him helping them champion a new Voting Rights Act with bigger, sharper teeth and claws than the last one, they're short-sighted fools.

Food stamps? Poverty programs? Education? All desirable and commendable, and they'd be wonderful for the short term; but a VRA 2.0 could help them get the political leverage they need for all that in the long haul.


Has a VRA2.0 been written that takes into consideration the constitutional issues?
 
2014-06-30 03:45:21 PM  

heavymetal: This might be a successful new strategy for southern blacks (and Democrats of all races in general). In areas where Republicans have a dominant political advantage, especially where no Democratic candidate is fielded or the one who is fielded is guaranteed to lose, have them put their support behind the moderate Republican over the Tea Party/extreme right-wing conservative. That way two things are accomplished. First you keep Tea Party and other hardcore right wing candidate from being put in power and marginalize the derp, but you also put in office a moderate who has to take your views into consideration.


You were OK until the comma after derp.  Then I just lol'd.

If politicians took their voters views into consideration we'd have at least some semblance of background checks for guns.
 
2014-06-30 03:46:25 PM  
Somebody's about 40 acres and a mule late to remembering just how the U.S. loves to honor its commitments and obligations.
 
2014-06-30 03:47:08 PM  

Saiga410: abb3w: If they go for anything other than him helping them champion a new Voting Rights Act with bigger, sharper teeth and claws than the last one, they're short-sighted fools.

Food stamps? Poverty programs? Education? All desirable and commendable, and they'd be wonderful for the short term; but a VRA 2.0 could help them get the political leverage they need for all that in the long haul.

Has a VRA2.0 been written that takes into consideration the constitutional issues?


I assume all you would have to do is force EVERYONE to the same standards instead of cherrypicking the areas with historical problems.
 
2014-06-30 03:48:19 PM  

Taxbongo: Brick-House: The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.

Dont like being called a racist? Dont be a racist. Easy


You forgot to add "Dont disagree with President Obama."
 
2014-06-30 03:49:30 PM  

Saiga410: Has a VRA2.0 been written that takes into consideration the constitutional issues?


SCOTUS said that if the VRA didn't take into account what area changed its voting rules, it would be Constitutionally OK, no? They agreed that DoJ or the FEC (or both?) is allowed to pre-clear changes, they just can't universally declare that The Old South is subject to higher scrutiny because of their history?

I'm fine with that.

// I'd also like them to standardize some things about elections, but that might take an Amendment
 
2014-06-30 04:01:22 PM  

wooden_badger: heavymetal: This might be a successful new strategy for southern blacks (and Democrats of all races in general). In areas where Republicans have a dominant political advantage, especially where no Democratic candidate is fielded or the one who is fielded is guaranteed to lose, have them put their support behind the moderate Republican over the Tea Party/extreme right-wing conservative. That way two things are accomplished. First you keep Tea Party and other hardcore right wing candidate from being put in power and marginalize the derp, but you also put in office a moderate who has to take your views into consideration.

You were OK until the comma after derp.  Then I just lol'd.

If politicians took their voters views into consideration we'd have at least some semblance of background checks for guns.


Brady Act of 1993. We've had background checks for two decades now. Any other demands for things we already have that you might like to make?
 
2014-06-30 04:04:04 PM  

Jjaro: Taxbongo: Brick-House: The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.

Dont like being called a racist? Dont be a racist. Easy

You forgot to add "Dont disagree with President Obama."


That's racist.
 
2014-06-30 04:04:36 PM  

RINO: wooden_badger: heavymetal: This might be a successful new strategy for southern blacks (and Democrats of all races in general). In areas where Republicans have a dominant political advantage, especially where no Democratic candidate is fielded or the one who is fielded is guaranteed to lose, have them put their support behind the moderate Republican over the Tea Party/extreme right-wing conservative. That way two things are accomplished. First you keep Tea Party and other hardcore right wing candidate from being put in power and marginalize the derp, but you also put in office a moderate who has to take your views into consideration.

You were OK until the comma after derp.  Then I just lol'd.

If politicians took their voters views into consideration we'd have at least some semblance of background checks for guns.

Brady Act of 1993. We've had background checks for two decades now. Any other demands for things we already have that you might like to make?


You have background checks for retailers only.  You know this so why post disingenuously?
 
2014-06-30 04:13:54 PM  

Jjaro: Taxbongo: Brick-House: The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.

Dont like being called a racist? Dont be a racist. Easy

You forgot to add "Dont disagree with President Obama."


Its not racist to disagree with Obama. It is racist to disagree with Obama due to his race alone.
 
2014-06-30 04:14:01 PM  

EyeballKid: Somebody's about 40 acres and a mule late to remembering just how the U.S. loves to honor its commitments and obligations.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

should have let the teaparty win.
 
2014-06-30 04:14:02 PM  

Jjaro: Taxbongo: Brick-House: The black vote will have little to say on this election. The big question is whether the Tea Party stays home rather then vote for someone who just called them racist.

Dont like being called a racist? Dont be a racist. Easy

You forgot to add "Dont disagree with President Obama."


No he didn't.
 
2014-06-30 04:17:10 PM  

colon_pow: The Congressional Black Caucus would like to remind MS Sen Thad Cochran that the negro community has a big huge marker with his name on it, and they intend to use it


what?  are they gonna color him black?


Add in some blue and a little red and it's a plan
 
2014-06-30 04:18:26 PM  

palelizard: Lsherm: Hasn't he already said this is likely his last term? He'll either go rogue and give them everything they want, or ignore them. It's not like it will affect him one way or another once the general election is over.

It won't affect him before the general election either. He faced his only real challenger already.


Depends.  The Tea Baggers aren't likely to vote for him in the general election now, and blacks still might vote Democratic.
 
2014-06-30 04:20:27 PM  
Fark with everyone:  first bill introduced in the 114th?  Reparations.
 
2014-06-30 04:22:28 PM  
Dear Congressional Black Caucus,

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You get the government you deserve.
 
2014-06-30 04:23:57 PM  

Saiga410: Has a VRA2.0 been written that takes into consideration the constitutional issues?

12349876: I assume all you would have to do is force EVERYONE to the same standards instead of cherrypicking the areas with historical problems.


Mandating a period of preclearance for all states (along with uniform "bail-in" and "bail-out" criteria) would appear a simple way to get around the issues from Shelby v Holder, but I'm not a lawyer.
 
2014-06-30 04:27:58 PM  
Good luck collecting on that one.
 
2014-06-30 04:28:29 PM  

mrshowrules: RINO: wooden_badger: heavymetal: This might be a successful new strategy for southern blacks (and Democrats of all races in general). In areas where Republicans have a dominant political advantage, especially where no Democratic candidate is fielded or the one who is fielded is guaranteed to lose, have them put their support behind the moderate Republican over the Tea Party/extreme right-wing conservative. That way two things are accomplished. First you keep Tea Party and other hardcore right wing candidate from being put in power and marginalize the derp, but you also put in office a moderate who has to take your views into consideration.

You were OK until the comma after derp.  Then I just lol'd.

If politicians took their voters views into consideration we'd have at least some semblance of background checks for guns.

Brady Act of 1993. We've had background checks for two decades now. Any other demands for things we already have that you might like to make?

You have background checks for retailers only.  You know this so why post disingenuously?


He was technically correct, the best kind of correct.
 
2014-06-30 04:39:54 PM  

wooden_badger: heavymetal: This might be a successful new strategy for southern blacks (and Democrats of all races in general). In areas where Republicans have a dominant political advantage, especially where no Democratic candidate is fielded or the one who is fielded is guaranteed to lose, have them put their support behind the moderate Republican over the Tea Party/extreme right-wing conservative. That way two things are accomplished. First you keep Tea Party and other hardcore right wing candidate from being put in power and marginalize the derp, but you also put in office a moderate who has to take your views into consideration.

You were OK until the comma after derp.  Then I just lol'd.

If politicians took their voters views into consideration we'd have at least some semblance of background checks for guns.


But you are ignoring the point as to why the expanded background checks were defeated.  Because the legislators were afraid of being primaried by more hardcore right wing NRA supported candidates.  Thus it was the NRA & extreme right's views which were taken into consideration while the moderate ones were ignored.  Why listen to the moderate voices much less blacks or Democrats if they won't help you win.

Well what if those crossover Democrats are the ones who are the determining factor in winning the election, especially if you have been effectively "RINO'd" and you will never get the support of the derp crowd?  By becoming the deciding factor in that politician's political survival, the politician will out of a survival instinct become open to the views of those who keep them in office.

A politician will cater to the crowd that keeps them getting elected.  If the GOP primary is effectively the general election, why not usurp the derp and get in a more moderate candidate elected?
 
2014-06-30 04:44:12 PM  
heavymetal

But you are ignoring the point as to why the expanded background checks were defeated. Because the legislators were afraid of being primaried by more hardcore right wing NRA supported candidates.

I thought it had more to do with expanded background checks being bundled with other measures people don't want. Most polls around the time found wide support for the former, less for the latter (for example, a federal firearms registry).
 
2014-06-30 04:50:32 PM  
Is it true funky Motown and can I dance to it?
 
2014-06-30 05:02:05 PM  

heavymetal: wooden_badger: heavymetal: This might be a successful new strategy for southern blacks (and Democrats of all races in general). In areas where Republicans have a dominant political advantage, especially where no Democratic candidate is fielded or the one who is fielded is guaranteed to lose, have them put their support behind the moderate Republican over the Tea Party/extreme right-wing conservative. That way two things are accomplished. First you keep Tea Party and other hardcore right wing candidate from being put in power and marginalize the derp, but you also put in office a moderate who has to take your views into consideration.

You were OK until the comma after derp.  Then I just lol'd.

If politicians took their voters views into consideration we'd have at least some semblance of background checks for guns.

But you are ignoring the point as to why the expanded background checks were defeated.  Because the legislators were afraid of being primaried by more hardcore right wing NRA supported candidates.  Thus it was the NRA & extreme right's views which were taken into consideration while the moderate ones were ignored.  Why listen to the moderate voices much less blacks or Democrats if they won't help you win.

Well what if those crossover Democrats are the ones who are the determining factor in winning the election, especially if you have been effectively "RINO'd" and you will never get the support of the derp crowd?  By becoming the deciding factor in that politician's political survival, the politician will out of a survival instinct become open to the views of those who keep them in office.

A politician will cater to the crowd that keeps them getting elected.  If the GOP primary is effectively the general election, why not usurp the derp and get in a more moderate candidate elected?


It didnt help that the legislation was pants on head.  If universal background check did not force all p to p sales through an intermediary the legislation would have had a chance... clean up  the verbage on transfer and it probably would have.
 
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