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(WTKR)   Elio motors claims it can build a car that gets 84 miles per gallon and will only cost $6,800. And with each purchase, they give you all the boxes of those little square mini frozen pizzas they make that you can fit inside the car with you   (wtkr.com) divider line 44
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2014-06-28 09:38:02 AM
I give 'em a year. Also, Elio should give the vehicle a model or they're just creating problems for every customer when they register at the DMV. Government workers aren't used to non-standard things and everyone suffers when that happens.
 
2014-06-28 11:05:32 AM
You can do that today if you ignore all the mandated safety features.  Can you do it with all the air bags and soon-to-be-required rear view cameras?  Probably not.
 
2014-06-28 11:20:18 AM
Is that just parts or after all the middlemen get their cut?
 
2014-06-28 11:31:54 AM

ajgeek: I give 'em a year. Also, Elio should give the vehicle a model or they're just creating problems for every customer when they register at the DMV. Government workers aren't used to non-standard things and everyone suffers when that happens.


If there's not a specific category to put it in, they'd probably list it like they would any home built vehicle. But just looking at it, makes me think they'll class it as a motorcycle.
 
2014-06-28 11:36:01 AM
"Five star safety rating."

Ah, yeah - the great loophole in car safety.

You see, those ratings are, to a great degree, relative. A tiny little car with a five-star rating is only compared to other cars in that weight class. So that five-star microcar may be pretty safe - for its size. But it's not the same thing as a mid-sized or larger car with a five- or even a four- or maybe even a three-star overall rating.

Rollover tests are sort of the same - but frontal crash and other impacts are much, much different when considering vehicle weight. Even the side-crash test is off (they hit the car with a 3000 pound weight representing an "average" car - which sucks if you're in a 1500 pound microcar getting hit by a 7000 pound SUV).

The Elio, due to its tiny size, is going to be a disaster in frontal crashes in the real world, no matter what its rating is.
 
2014-06-28 11:44:28 AM
That was a good chuckle of a headline.


I've been looking for something like that for my commute.
 
2014-06-28 11:49:32 AM
I bet you can lock it up on a bike rack too.

So long City Bike
 
2014-06-28 11:56:52 AM
Someone put a cab around a 3-wheel motorcycle. This. Changes. Everything.
 
2014-06-28 12:08:28 PM
Depends what you mean by "car".
 
2014-06-28 12:14:22 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: You can do that today if you ignore all the mandated safety features.  Can you do it with all the air bags and soon-to-be-required rear view cameras?  Probably not.


I am absolutely certain someone can make a go kart that gets more than 100 miles to the gallon. And by go kart I mean a lightweight plastic seat attached to a similar frame with wheels.
 
2014-06-28 12:25:53 PM
"Cheerio!  Can we have a go at it?"

mit.zenfs.com
 
2014-06-28 12:33:05 PM

cirby: "Five star safety rating."

Ah, yeah - the great loophole in car safety.

You see, those ratings are, to a great degree, relative. A tiny little car with a five-star rating is only compared to other cars in that weight class. So that five-star microcar may be pretty safe - for its size. But it's not the same thing as a mid-sized or larger car with a five- or even a four- or maybe even a three-star overall rating.

Rollover tests are sort of the same - but frontal crash and other impacts are much, much different when considering vehicle weight. Even the side-crash test is off (they hit the car with a 3000 pound weight representing an "average" car - which sucks if you're in a 1500 pound microcar getting hit by a 7000 pound SUV).

The Elio, due to its tiny size, is going to be a disaster in frontal crashes in the real world, no matter what its rating is.


I think the term you are looking ford is "disposable"

"I got into a fender bender in the parking lot and my car was totaled."
 
2014-06-28 01:25:12 PM
Does the cheese go blub blub blub?
 
2014-06-28 01:27:46 PM
Did anyone else see the name of the company and think morlocks?

/yes I know it is "eloi" but the spelling was close enough that it brought HG wells to mind.
 
2014-06-28 01:34:52 PM
IanMoone:
I think the term you are looking ford is "disposable"

"I got into a fender bender in the parking lot and my car was totaled."


"...along with my knees."
 
2014-06-28 01:54:49 PM

cirby: "Five star safety rating."

Ah, yeah - the great loophole in car safety.

You see, those ratings are, to a great degree, relative. A tiny little car with a five-star rating is only compared to other cars in that weight class. So that five-star microcar may be pretty safe - for its size. But it's not the same thing as a mid-sized or larger car with a five- or even a four- or maybe even a three-star overall rating.

Rollover tests are sort of the same - but frontal crash and other impacts are much, much different when considering vehicle weight. Even the side-crash test is off (they hit the car with a 3000 pound weight representing an "average" car - which sucks if you're in a 1500 pound microcar getting hit by a 7000 pound SUV).

The Elio, due to its tiny size, is going to be a disaster in frontal crashes in the real world, no matter what its rating is.


"Smart cars are perfectly safe in a collision."

"Yeah, a collision with another Smart car."
 
2014-06-28 01:56:29 PM
I think that car was on Silicon Valley. Peter Gregory got into one and drove away. Thought it was a joke.
 
2014-06-28 02:16:55 PM

IanMoone: cirby: "Five star safety rating."

Ah, yeah - the great loophole in car safety.

You see, those ratings are, to a great degree, relative. A tiny little car with a five-star rating is only compared to other cars in that weight class. So that five-star microcar may be pretty safe - for its size. But it's not the same thing as a mid-sized or larger car with a five- or even a four- or maybe even a three-star overall rating.

Rollover tests are sort of the same - but frontal crash and other impacts are much, much different when considering vehicle weight. Even the side-crash test is off (they hit the car with a 3000 pound weight representing an "average" car - which sucks if you're in a 1500 pound microcar getting hit by a 7000 pound SUV).

The Elio, due to its tiny size, is going to be a disaster in frontal crashes in the real world, no matter what its rating is.

I think the term you are looking ford is "disposable"

"I got into a fender bender in the parking lot and my car was totaled."


Nice Freudian slip!
 
2014-06-28 02:31:32 PM
While I find your three-wheeled 'car' pathetic and unsellable, I do support the idea of toaster-oven pizza being cooked and served inside the vehicle.
 
2014-06-28 02:44:44 PM
The last time a small vehicle with that price point was sold in the US, it was a piece of crap!

/Yugo
 
2014-06-28 04:48:20 PM
I currently drive a Brabus Smart car and I have one of these on order.
I live in the city and think it will fit my needs perfectly.

\Was t-boned by a Benz SUV doing 40 a few years ago. The Smart Car had minor damage and I walked away with only being sore. Can't say the same for the Benz...
 
2014-06-28 05:17:43 PM

Invisible Dynamite Monkey: I think that car was on Silicon Valley. Peter Gregory got into one and drove away. Thought it was a joke.



Came for this. Leaving satisfied. Yeah its real. I looked it up. I think I searched "thin car" but it exists. It's real and it's spectacular. Also great show but Idk how good the next season can be and if they'll have a 3rd season
 
2014-06-28 05:46:28 PM
I'd drive one.  It is cheap, has air conditioning, a roof, and looks perfect to commute back and forth to work in.  I even know someone who put a deposit on one.
 
2014-06-28 06:19:17 PM

badcommand: I currently drive a Brabus Smart car and I have one of these on order.
I live in the city and think it will fit my needs perfectly.

\Was t-boned by a Benz SUV doing 40 a few years ago. The Smart Car had minor damage and I walked away with only being sore. Can't say the same for the Benz...


I'm no car engineer or anything, so take this with a grain of salt, but I believe a lot of larger cars use crumple zones to gradually absorb impact energy. Smaller cars like the Smart Car don't have the extra space for that so they just stiffen the frame. On impact, like both are designed, your car resists impact and theirs collapses. Luckily you get to take advantage of that impact-draining crush also. Probably the worst case would be Smart Car vs. one of those older giant all-steel land yacht Buick types, in which there's no impact absorption at all and you're in the much lighter vehicle.
 
2014-06-28 06:23:08 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

"How about those [local sports team]. What a bunch of bums, I tell ya!"
 
2014-06-28 06:25:03 PM

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: badcommand: I currently drive a Brabus Smart car and I have one of these on order.
I live in the city and think it will fit my needs perfectly.

\Was t-boned by a Benz SUV doing 40 a few years ago. The Smart Car had minor damage and I walked away with only being sore. Can't say the same for the Benz...

I'm no car engineer or anything, so take this with a grain of salt, but I believe a lot of larger cars use crumple zones to gradually absorb impact energy. Smaller cars like the Smart Car don't have the extra space for that so they just stiffen the frame. On impact, like both are designed, your car resists impact and theirs collapses. Luckily you get to take advantage of that impact-draining crush also. Probably the worst case would be Smart Car vs. one of those older giant all-steel land yacht Buick types, in which there's no impact absorption at all and you're in the much lighter vehicle.


You are probably right.
Both cars reacted like they were supposed to.
Thankfully there aren't a whole lot of land yachts driving around Seattle.
 
2014-06-28 06:27:39 PM
i sent a video of this to my wife.

she replied with a one word email. No.
 
2014-06-28 07:01:37 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: i sent a video of this to my wife.

she replied with a one word email. No.


She sounds high maintenance.
 
2014-06-28 07:06:58 PM

Hector Remarkable: While I find your three-wheeled 'car' pathetic and unsellable, I do support the idea of toaster-oven pizza being cooked and served inside the vehicle.

 
2014-06-28 07:07:34 PM

Hollie Maea: Tanukis_Parachute: i sent a video of this to my wife.

she replied with a one word email. No.

She sounds high maintenance.


and/or fat...
 
2014-06-28 07:30:32 PM

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: badcommand: I currently drive a Brabus Smart car and I have one of these on order.
I live in the city and think it will fit my needs perfectly.

\Was t-boned by a Benz SUV doing 40 a few years ago. The Smart Car had minor damage and I walked away with only being sore. Can't say the same for the Benz...

I'm no car engineer or anything, so take this with a grain of salt, but I believe a lot of larger cars use crumple zones to gradually absorb impact energy. Smaller cars like the Smart Car don't have the extra space for that so they just stiffen the frame. On impact, like both are designed, your car resists impact and theirs collapses. Luckily you get to take advantage of that impact-draining crush also. Probably the worst case would be Smart Car vs. one of those older giant all-steel land yacht Buick types, in which there's no impact absorption at all and you're in the much lighter vehicle.


The difference in the collisions between a newer and older car hitting a Smart would be that in the newer car the crumple zones would help the occupants.

In the older car they'd still end up with the engine in their laps and the occupants of the Smart would still be protected by the cage.
 
2014-06-28 07:34:09 PM
i like it. i'd buy one.
 
2014-06-28 09:04:01 PM

Allen262: Hollie Maea: Tanukis_Parachute: i sent a video of this to my wife.

she replied with a one word email. No.

She sounds high maintenance.

and/or fat...


for sure fat, cuz the cars are small....
 
2014-06-28 09:12:31 PM
Maybe this is just me, but that thing looks to be the opposite of "roomy".
 
2014-06-28 09:23:13 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: You can do that today if you ignore all the mandated safety features.  Can you do it with all the air bags and soon-to-be-required rear view cameras?  Probably not.


The airbags add a bit of weight, but a backup camera isn't going to do shiat to fuel economy. The camera module weighs a matter of grams, and changing the radio display to a LCD screen is probably weight neutral, especially if they start removing the useless CD mechanisms from head units in newer models.
 
2014-06-28 09:45:17 PM

Allen262: Hollie Maea: Tanukis_Parachute: i sent a video of this to my wife.

she replied with a one word email. No.

She sounds high maintenance.

and/or fat...


fat...no.

she's a woman. so...at least part way on the maintenance. mainly depending on the time of the cycle.
 
2014-06-28 10:03:41 PM
Looks much like the Corbin Sparrow, which was a one-seater electric. In California, it was considered a motorcycle.
 
2014-06-28 10:10:22 PM
Lots of people here mocking it, but I think it has a lot of potential.

The front end reminds me of the plymouth prowler, which was beautiful looking. Its cheap enough that a younger person can afford it. And if you mostly drive alone its probably plenty big enough inside.

If I decided to buy a new car it would certainly be on my list.
 
2014-06-28 11:17:55 PM

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: badcommand: I currently drive a Brabus Smart car and I have one of these on order.
I live in the city and think it will fit my needs perfectly.

\Was t-boned by a Benz SUV doing 40 a few years ago. The Smart Car had minor damage and I walked away with only being sore. Can't say the same for the Benz...

I'm no car engineer or anything, so take this with a grain of salt, but I believe a lot of larger cars use crumple zones to gradually absorb impact energy. Smaller cars like the Smart Car don't have the extra space for that so they just stiffen the frame. On impact, like both are designed, your car resists impact and theirs collapses. Luckily you get to take advantage of that impact-draining crush also. Probably the worst case would be Smart Car vs. one of those older giant all-steel land yacht Buick types, in which there's no impact absorption at all and you're in the much lighter vehicle.


Smart Cars do have a crumple zone that absorbs impact. Considered highly effective in the industry too.

Smart Cars don't have frames to "stiffen up". They use a patented safety cell that completely surrounds you and the passenger.


These Elio's are classified by the government as motorcycles. Any stars in a crash test would be a huge upgrade for motorcycles.
 
2014-06-28 11:24:39 PM
This is the Smart Cars safety cell

s.hswstatic.com
 
2014-06-29 01:25:44 AM
I would not want to be in the back seat of that thing I can tell you that.
 
2014-06-29 10:29:01 AM
These look great - it's just a shame I'll need to buy three to get the family anywhere.

So that's 28 MPG and $20k .... not so impressive.
 
2014-06-29 03:08:10 PM
they should get that autocycle classification so the grey area between cycle and car gets a little clearer.
 
2014-06-29 03:14:34 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: These look great - it's just a shame I'll need to buy three to get the family anywhere.

So that's 28 MPG and $20k .... not so impressive.


Do you take your family everywhere, even to work?

Most folk would be hard pressed to regularly carpool. In Maine it's damn near impossible unless you want 16 hour days away from home, which puts even more of a strain on the family than there already is. Also, even my poor ass family manages to have two cars, because we go opposite directions to get things done with regularity.
 
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