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(Den of Geek (US))   Director Roberto Orci says Star Trek 3 will boldly go where the previous two movies haven't: Outer space   (denofgeek.us) divider line 202
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2014-06-28 12:46:28 AM
Why do they need to go into space when they can just teleport to any plant in the galaxy?
 
2014-06-28 01:03:17 AM
Well, it's about farkin' time! I'm tired of Star Trek movies repeatedly saving Earth from conspiracies, alien probes (twice!), etc.

/Time for some real science fiction!
 
2014-06-28 01:04:48 AM

Mentat: Why do they need to go into space when they can just teleport to any plant in the galaxy?


You need a platform to bomb planets with photon torpedoes and phaser strafing runs.
 
2014-06-28 01:35:10 AM
Into Darkness was the biggest miscalculation I've seen on the big screen, and I was a huge fan of 2009's reboot.
 
2014-06-28 01:49:46 AM
Kirk needs to find new alien babes to bed.
 
2014-06-28 01:56:22 AM

Confabulat: Into Darkness was the biggest miscalculation I've seen on the big screen, and I was a huge fan of 2009's reboot.


THIS

i already saw wrath of khan, you colossal douche-tards.
 
2014-06-28 02:57:32 AM
Orci is a farking cancer. Much like Avi Arad. Also Akiva Goldsmith.
 
2014-06-28 03:00:44 AM
Star Trek could have attracted any number of talented directors. Going with J.J.'s wanna be lackey makes no sense.
 
2014-06-28 03:02:45 AM
Think we're long overdue for a new trek series. Straight to Netflix would be amazing. Even though I had my complaints with the Abrams movies, they were financial successes, proving there's still a large fanbase who wants to support it.

I'd want to see it go down the DS9 route where there are season long plotlines instead of the TNG model where every episode was self contained and the plot wrapped up in an hour.
 
2014-06-28 03:06:03 AM
They already spent more than the usual amount of time in EV suits in the last two movies.

Set during the '5 year mission'?  Cool.
 
2014-06-28 03:15:34 AM
I definitely had my complaints with JJ Abrams trek. But I do give him credit for making two successful Trek films. It looked for a while there after the failure of Enterprise and Nemesis that the franchise was dead, these two movies brought it back from the brink.

Gave nerds who grew up on it hope for another great series, because in my opinion the best of Trek has always been in the TV shows not the movies.
 
2014-06-28 03:19:32 AM
Just give me Klingons and I'll be happy.
 
2014-06-28 03:21:28 AM

Shelbyville: Think we're long overdue for a new trek series. Straight to Netflix would be amazing. Even though I had my complaints with the Abrams movies, they were financial successes, proving there's still a large fanbase who wants to support it.

I'd want to see it go down the DS9 route where there are season long plotlines instead of the TNG model where every episode was self contained and the plot wrapped up in an hour.


Words is the ST guys have been in talks with Netflix, but who knows.

Also, TNG was the goddamned worst. Pure circle jerking, all around. DS9 was fantastic,  TOS still pwns. Enterprise was just getting pretty good when it got cancelled. Voyager had some great episodes, also 7's tits, but largely sucked. Chick captain. Blah. JJ Trek is gayer than Takei.
 
2014-06-28 03:29:35 AM
I'd like them to do with Reboot 2 what they did with Original 5: Consider it apocryphal, and move on ignoring it ever happened.
 
2014-06-28 03:34:12 AM

Mentat: Why do they need to go into space when they can just teleport to any plant in the galaxy?


Why have a Navy when we can fly anywhere? And since we have aircraft, they can easily land on anything, right?

Beaming requires exact coordinates. What are the coordinates to beam to on an unexplored planet?

Does the place you're beaming to have a habitable atmosphere?

Is there a native population? Is it friendly?

Finally, how do you beam back when the transwarp beaming device is left behind?

/how do you study a nebula up close and personal, or other interstellar phenomena? I guess Mentat would just beam into it.
 
2014-06-28 03:42:54 AM

Mentat: Why do they need to go into space when they can just teleport to any plant in the galaxy?


Because transporters kill the original, creating a copy on the other end.
 
2014-06-28 04:01:28 AM

Mentat: Why do they need to go into space when they can just teleport to any plant in the galaxy?


Because you want your medical officer in the vicinity when something goes wrong.
 
2014-06-28 04:06:21 AM
I propose they film a movie called "Star Trek 3: Alice Eve's Boobies".
 
2014-06-28 04:11:04 AM

skinink: I propose they film a movie called "Star Trek 3: Alice Eve's Boobies".


Nice tits, nipples are lacking.
 
2014-06-28 04:15:56 AM
Who farking cares. It's going to be an incoherent mess no matter what it's about.

I'll never watch anything written by Robert "Transformers" Orci. The guy doesn't know how to write a farking script. Period.
 
2014-06-28 04:53:14 AM
Yay, a 9/11 Truther is directing Star Trek
 
2014-06-28 04:55:03 AM

robohobo: skinink: I propose they film a movie called "Star Trek 3: Alice Eve's Boobies".

Nice tits, nipples are lacking.


That is... Wow!

Thank you.

/My bunk! I must find it!
 
2014-06-28 05:02:46 AM

robohobo: skinink: I propose they film a movie called "Star Trek 3: Alice Eve's Boobies".

Nice tits, nipples are lacking.


She isn't lactating.

/nor are they lacking
 
2014-06-28 05:06:45 AM

peterthx: robohobo: skinink: I propose they film a movie called "Star Trek 3: Alice Eve's Boobies".

Nice tits, nipples are lacking.

She isn't lactating.

/nor are they lacking


I, personally, like bigger areola and nip. Not that I'd turn down her on my lap with her tits in my face. Also, she is really, really pretty.
 
2014-06-28 05:13:36 AM
What I would like, but will probably not get.
1) An alien planet we've never seen before
2) An alien lifeform we've never seen before
3) An alien civilization we've never seen before
4) Our main characters thinking their way out of situations
5) Reasonable attention to scientific fact (Not expecting 2001 or Gravity, but at least something).
6) Action scenes that further the story and reveal character, and are not gratuitous
7) No time travel
 
2014-06-28 05:21:38 AM
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2014-06-28 06:25:08 AM
That hack can skull fark Trek all he wants, just so he stays away from Star Wars.
 
2014-06-28 06:31:20 AM

steve_lou: Yay, a 9/11 Truther is directing Star Trek


Seriously?!
 
2014-06-28 06:44:10 AM

Confabulat: Into Darkness was the biggest miscalculation I've seen on the big screen, and I was a huge fan of 2009's reboot.


I'm still waiting on someone to explain Admiral Robocop and Khan's motivations in a way that makes sense given their actions. It can't be done.

robohobo: Orci is a farking cancer


Damon Lindelof is at least as bad. That man sabotaged Prometheus in so many ways it's hard to believe it wasn't deliberate.
 
2014-06-28 06:45:22 AM
I get that the Abrams films aren't a reboot but an altered continuity, so everything that the original stories encountered are still out there, so I get that Khan still exists, and Start Trek 2 was Wrath of Khan, so it does make a stupid kind of sense as long as you don't think too hard about it.

Fortunately though, Spock's not dead, so they can't just rehash "The Search for Spock" for the next one - though if Spock (either of them, actually) gets kidnapped 15 minutes in I'm walking out of the theatre, finding JJ Abrams, and setting him on fire - so hopefully there'll be at least one actual Trek film before they have to go back in time and get some hump backed whales again.
 
2014-06-28 06:57:06 AM
I'm not aware of any actual Star Trek currently being in development or production..
 
2014-06-28 06:57:43 AM

Gunther: I'm still waiting on someone to explain Admiral Robocop and Khan's motivations in a way that makes sense given their actions. It can't be done.


Seriously?

The Admiral: wants to heavily militarize Starfleet, gives the Klingon threat as a reason, but likely wants to do it to increase his own power.  Finds the Botany Bay, and decides to wake up Khan, and use the rest of them as hostages to ensure Khan's cooperation.  Makes Khan design new weapons and starships for him, with one big one built so far.

Khan: Awakened in the 23rd century, with the only people he cares about held as hostages.  Works for the Admiral reluctantly, then finds ways to fight back with terrorists methods, including attacking a Starfleet meeting to try and kill the Admiral.  Reluctantly works alongside Kirk to get his people back, but since he holds non-enhanced people in contempt, he turns on him when he gets what he wants.
 
2014-06-28 07:05:38 AM

Gunther: Confabulat: Into Darkness was the biggest miscalculation I've seen on the big screen, and I was a huge fan of 2009's reboot.

I'm still waiting on someone to explain Admiral Robocop and Khan's motivations in a way that makes sense given their actions. It can't be done.

robohobo: Orci is a farking cancer

Damon Lindelof is at least as bad. That man sabotaged Prometheus in so many ways it's hard to believe it wasn't deliberate.


They never should have revisited the Khan story. Trying to capitalize on the original's success was a mistake. Trying to mirror the original's ending doubly so. Admiral Robocop's story could have been really good if they'd focused on that instead. And gotten better writers. And familiarized themselves with the source material a little better instead of phoning it in.

I like the direction they've taken Trek and I think rebooting the franchise was one of the few instances where a time travel story is appropriate precisely because the changes are permanent and lasting but damn do I hate incompetence. Orci and Kurtzman are incompetent and JJ should feel bad for not doing a better job.
 
2014-06-28 07:23:16 AM

Shelbyville: Think we're long overdue for a new trek series. Straight to Netflix would be amazing. Even though I had my complaints with the Abrams movies, they were financial successes, proving there's still a large fanbase who wants to support it.

I'd want to see it go down the DS9 route where there are season long plotlines instead of the TNG model where every episode was self contained and the plot wrapped up in an hour.


It's guaranteed the next Trek TV series will be serialized.  Procedural sci-fi and drama TV shows that tell a different story every week have been on the wane for a long time now.
 
2014-06-28 07:28:27 AM

Shelbyville: I definitely had my complaints with JJ Abrams trek. But I do give him credit for making two successful Trek films. It looked for a while there after the failure of Enterprise and Nemesis that the franchise was dead, these two movies brought it back from the brink.

Gave nerds who grew up on it hope for another great series, because in my opinion the best of Trek has always been in the TV shows not the movies.


In honesty, no franchise is ever really dead. It might go dormant for a while, but it always comes back as long as there is a potential audience
 
2014-06-28 07:37:08 AM

Bslim: I'm not aware of any actual Star Trek currently being in development or production..


^^^This^^^

I do not consider this reboot trash to be part of Star Trek.
 
2014-06-28 07:40:43 AM

strangeluck: I do not consider this reboot trash to be part of Star Trek.


It's better than Enterprise, Voyager, the first two seasons of TNG, and the third season of TOS.

And better than most of the movies.

So eh. I guess your Star Trek is mostly in your head.
 
2014-06-28 07:42:55 AM

Confabulat: strangeluck: I do not consider this reboot trash to be part of Star Trek.

It's better than Enterprise, Voyager, the first two seasons of TNG, and the third season of TOS.

And better than most of the movies.

So eh. I guess your Star Trek is mostly in your head.


Oh, you're going to rile up some people who don't want to hear that.
 
2014-06-28 07:44:42 AM

Alphax: Oh, you're going to rile up some people who don't want to hear that.


Hey I was disappointed as hell in Into Darkness, but anyone who claims Nemesis or Insurrection is a superior movie is just dumb.
 
2014-06-28 07:50:51 AM

Confabulat: Alphax: Oh, you're going to rile up some people who don't want to hear that.

Hey I was disappointed as hell in Into Darkness, but anyone who claims Nemesis or Insurrection is a superior movie is just dumb.


Or The Final Frontier.. I didn't care for Undiscovered Country, or First Contact, either, though I know I'm certainly in the minority for the latter.
 
2014-06-28 07:55:43 AM
Mr. Plinkett at Red Letter Media pretty much destroyed First Contact. It's a movie that makes zero sense once you think about it, and shiats all over Trek canon waaay more than Abrams's movies.

Though WTF, Undiscovered Country is awesome!

Generations, though, well that was pretty amazingly awful.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-first-contact /
 
2014-06-28 08:00:55 AM

Confabulat: Though WTF, Undiscovered Country is awesome!


As an allegory for the end of the Cold War, it's great.

As a movie to watch.. I found it a bit dull.  Not bad, but not exciting.

First Contact, yeah, let's help an old druken man in a barn build a crude starship, so the Vulcans will notice him.

Nevermind that the Borg could simply have beamed down members to each major city and starting taking over the people.. it might have looked more like that World War Z movie.
 
2014-06-28 08:01:28 AM

Alphax: The Admiral: wants to heavily militarize Starfleet, gives the Klingon threat as a reason, but likely wants to do it to increase his own power.


So he's gonna build one slightly tougher than normal ship and provoke a powerful enemy (who he already thinks can beat Starfleet) into attacking first while the federation is unprepared and unaware.  Meanwhile Khan, despite having rescuing his crew as his motivation, decides to make an inept attempt on Admiral Robocop's life and then for ZERO REASON goes to the Klingon homeworld and wanders about on the surface, just waiting for Robocop to blow him up with those magic missiles and start the war that Robocop stupidly wants. Except Robocop sends Kirk instead (giving treasonous orders to someone he barely knows) and orders him to use the magic missiles. Which have now been stuffed with frozen super-humans - also for zero reason; Admiral Robocop could presumably use those frozen super-humans to make more super-tech, but no; stick them in missiles for no farking reason other than so we can have a reveal later on.

Their stated motivations never jibe with their actions, which are always just in service of moving the plot along to the next big action scene.Khan going to the Klingon homeworld is possibly the weirdest moment, as it not only risks his life (Admiral Robocop could kill him and start the war he wants with one missile), it does nothing to further his goal of rescuing his frozen buddies.

And that's focusing on a tiny slice of the film! There's plenty of other dumb shiat throughout.
 
2014-06-28 08:05:44 AM

Mad_Radhu: [img.fark.net image 656x460]


One of my favourite Onions!
 
2014-06-28 08:06:41 AM

Confabulat: Mr. Plinkett at Red Letter Media pretty much destroyed First Contact. It's a movie that makes zero sense once you think about it


Compared to Insurrection or Generations it's high art.

Hell, Into Darkness has a better script than Insurrection. The problems with ID's nonsensical plot don't really occur to you until the movie's over, Insurrection doesn't even hold up that long.
 
2014-06-28 08:08:10 AM

Gunther: So he's gonna build one slightly tougher than normal ship and provoke a powerful enemy (who he already thinks can beat Starfleet) into attacking first while the federation is unprepared and unaware.


Claims can beat Starfleet, without him around to save them.  He thinks he can win.

Gunther: Meanwhile Khan, despite having rescuing his crew as his motivation, decides to make an inept attempt on Admiral Robocop's life and then for ZERO REASON goes to the Klingon homeworld and wanders about on the surface, just waiting for Robocop to blow him up with those magic missiles and start the war that Robocop stupidly wants.


He thought his crew had been murdered already, after he escaped from the Admiral.  The frozen people in the missiles, that seemed to be part of an aborted escape attempt on Khan's part. Tried to sneak them out, didn't work.  The Admiral gave them to Kirk to fire at Khan just to kill 2 birds with one stone; they're not special otherwise, and he meant for Kirk to be discovered and killed in Klingon space, to start his war.
 
2014-06-28 08:18:24 AM

Alphax: He thought his crew had been murdered already, after he escaped from the Admiral.


So why'd he go to the klingon homeworld? He's trying to run from Admiral Robocop and he goes to the one place the Admiral wants to attack? This is the best plan a supergenius can come up with?

Alphax: The Admiral gave them to Kirk to fire at Khan just to kill 2 birds with one stone; they're not special otherwise

The one genius he thawed out was smart enough to build super-tech despite being frozen 300 years earlier (which, incidentally, is some ludicrous bullshiat), why the fark are the other 72 worthless? Also, his plan hinges on giving Kirk these missiles, missiles that have been converted into cryo-pods by a supergenius, why is he assuming they're still going to work as missiles?

NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE. The plot holes are fractal; looking at them closely just shows you more plot holes.
 
2014-06-28 08:19:09 AM

Gunther: I'm still waiting on someone to explain Admiral Robocop and Khan's motivations in a way that makes sense given their actions. It can't be done.


"Fun & watchable"!  BOOM!  Your criticism is instantly invalidated by my razor sharp wit.
 
2014-06-28 08:28:28 AM
Deep Space!?, farking great.

So who's playing Gary Mitchell and Dr Dehner?
 
2014-06-28 08:30:04 AM
The plot should definitely include Chris Pine running around in his underwear for at least five minutes.
 
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