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2014-06-27 10:31:39 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-27 10:34:42 PM
I've got a 2010 Chevy Cobalt.

For the past 6 months, I've been getting a "your car is subject to a recall but we don't have the parts to fix it, stay tuned" letter every two weeks.

Meanwhile, I'm still alive. For now.
 
2014-06-27 10:55:49 PM
Have they run out of names for cars the same way they've run out of sports franchises?

Cruze sounds like the Columbus Blue Jackets of automobiles.
 
2014-06-27 11:01:40 PM

nickdaisy: Have they run out of names for cars the same way they've run out of sports franchises?

.


I'm waiting for the Chevy Catheter. Sort of goes along with the Ford Probe if you know what I mean...
 
2014-06-27 11:04:15 PM
At least this one doesn't seem to be GM's fault, according to TFA Toyota, Nissan, Honda, and Mazda have all been hit with the same supplier issue.
 
2014-06-27 11:18:56 PM
You get the feeling that automakers are simply recalling any vehicle under any circumstances to prevent lawsuits. It's really much ado about nothing. if it concerns you all so greatly, I'll take all of your recalled GM cars off your hands. Don't expect a lot of money for your deathtraps, though.

Rest assured I'll enjoy driving them as-is in good health, and at the 100% markup I'll put on them others will as well though none of them will have my fat bank account.
 
2014-06-27 11:35:50 PM
So it looks like X > CR again.
 
2014-06-27 11:38:30 PM
It's a slow day if there's only been one recall.
 
2014-06-27 11:43:12 PM

generallyso: It's a slow day if there's only been one recall.


Maybe they ran out of models that hadn't yet been recalled?
 
2014-06-27 11:43:44 PM
What a faulty airbag might look like...

www.the360experiment.com
 
2014-06-27 11:45:56 PM
...or better yet, what a Cruz might look like...
thunderbird37.com
 
2014-06-27 11:47:22 PM
Kwality
 
2014-06-27 11:54:43 PM

Fubegra: So it looks like X > CR again.


On the late model cars I'd suspect there was something about getting customers in to be prey to salesmen. Does GM get a % of service and repair bills? Maybe there's a touch of "get people used to dealer service" aspect.
 
2014-06-27 11:56:51 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I've got a 2010 Chevy Cobalt.

For the past 6 months, I've been getting a "your car is subject to a recall but we don't have the parts to fix it, stay tuned" letter every two weeks.

Meanwhile, I'm still alive. For now.


Everything built in Lordstown is suspect. I can't begin to tell you what a clusterfark that place is.
 
2014-06-27 11:58:35 PM
Wow, old news.  Today they recalled all their 4wd full size 2014-2015 trucks for transfer cases shifting to neutral by themselves; even when the truck is parked.  So you know all those videos of run away trucks, GM was trying to corner the market.
 
2014-06-28 12:01:28 AM

wildcardjack: Fubegra: So it looks like X > CR again.

On the late model cars I'd suspect there was something about getting customers in to be prey to salesmen. Does GM get a % of service and repair bills? Maybe there's a touch of "get people used to dealer service" aspect.


If there are enough complaints the NHTSA opens an investigation and can force a recall.  Oftentimes the automakers will investigate on their own and initiate the recall themselves before being forced to to better control publicity and costs.

If the issue is due to a faulty part from a third party supplier, as it was in this case, I believe some of the costs can be charged back to that supplier.

In any event, once they know there's a safety issue, they pretty much have to take action or else end up like GM did with the ignition switch issue.  It's cheaper to handle it up front than to try to sweep it under the rug and risk big lawsuits down the road.  In this case in particular since the same airbag was used across multiple models from different manufacturers once the first recall went out it forced anyone else using it to pretty much follow suit.
 
2014-06-28 12:03:55 AM

wildcardjack: Fubegra: So it looks like X > CR again.

On the late model cars I'd suspect there was something about getting customers in to be prey to salesmen. Does GM get a % of service and repair bills? Maybe there's a touch of "get people used to dealer service" aspect.


Most folks buying brand new cars are more likely to take their cars to dealerships for everything.  Including oil changes.  When I bought my van new, they gave me coupons for things like oil changes.  I didn't use one till my third change, the service manager tried lecturing me on car maintenance, till I showed him my 'maintenance log' I was keeping on the van.

/I keep logs just so I remember little things like how did I rotate the tires last time
 
2014-06-28 12:07:59 AM

lack of warmth: wildcardjack: Fubegra: So it looks like X > CR again.

On the late model cars I'd suspect there was something about getting customers in to be prey to salesmen. Does GM get a % of service and repair bills? Maybe there's a touch of "get people used to dealer service" aspect.

Most folks buying brand new cars are more likely to take their cars to dealerships for everything.  Including oil changes.  When I bought my van new, they gave me coupons for things like oil changes.  I didn't use one till my third change, the service manager tried lecturing me on car maintenance, till I showed him my 'maintenance log' I was keeping on the van.

/I keep logs just so I remember little things like how did I rotate the tires last time


Yeah, pretty much all new cars don't need any major maintenance till after 100,000 miles.  I've found that things like oil changes and tire rotations aren't much more at the dealer than they are at Wal-Mart or Jiffy Lube, and it's worth it for me to spend the extra $10 to have it done by someone who knows what they're doing rather than whichever tech the discount places were able to find who was willing to work as cheap as possible.

I took my first car to Jiffy Lube for its first oil change (well, first for me, it was used and already had a bunch of miles) and they drained out the old oil but never put new oil back in.  I discovered this a little bit down the road when the engine seized.  I haven't been back to one since.
 
2014-06-28 12:08:05 AM
Meanwhile, at Takata's US subsidiary's headquarters...

www.deepfocusreview.com
 
2014-06-28 12:15:18 AM
Tomorrow Fark is going to greenlight an article about how it's raining in Seattle.
 
2014-06-28 12:18:21 AM

gozar_the_destroyer: Meanwhile, at Takata's US subsidiary's headquarters...

[www.deepfocusreview.com image 405x189]


Shareholders Car owners should be allowed to vote who has to commit hara-kiri when the company shames itself like this.
 
2014-06-28 12:20:58 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Yeah, pretty much all new cars don't need any major maintenance till after 100,000 miles.  I've found that things like oil changes and tire rotations aren't much more at the dealer than they are at Wal-Mart or Jiffy Lube, and it's worth it for me to spend the extra $10 to have it done by someone who knows what they're doing rather than whichever tech the discount places were able to find who was willing to work as cheap as possible.

I took my first car to Jiffy Lube for its first oil change (well, first for me, it was used and already had a bunch of miles) and they drained out the old oil but never put new oil back in.  I discovered this a little bit down the road when the engine seized.  I haven't been back to one since.


Funny thing is, a Chevy dealership here started doing oil changes for $12.95 a couple years ago.  It is really messing with Jiffy Lube and walmart.  I've heard many horror stories about walmart's tech garages, and I quit going to them when it became clear they short the oil change by 1/2 quart every time.  Now I only trust myself with oil changes.

On that second part, did they repair your car?  I have a friend who owns an oil change place, and he messed up a customer's car once.  He was really embarrassed by it, but he has the proper insurance for that very thing.  The lady got a new motor.
 
2014-06-28 12:26:31 AM

lack of warmth: TuteTibiImperes: Yeah, pretty much all new cars don't need any major maintenance till after 100,000 miles.  I've found that things like oil changes and tire rotations aren't much more at the dealer than they are at Wal-Mart or Jiffy Lube, and it's worth it for me to spend the extra $10 to have it done by someone who knows what they're doing rather than whichever tech the discount places were able to find who was willing to work as cheap as possible.

I took my first car to Jiffy Lube for its first oil change (well, first for me, it was used and already had a bunch of miles) and they drained out the old oil but never put new oil back in.  I discovered this a little bit down the road when the engine seized.  I haven't been back to one since.

Funny thing is, a Chevy dealership here started doing oil changes for $12.95 a couple years ago.  It is really messing with Jiffy Lube and walmart.  I've heard many horror stories about walmart's tech garages, and I quit going to them when it became clear they short the oil change by 1/2 quart every time.  Now I only trust myself with oil changes.

On that second part, did they repair your car?  I have a friend who owns an oil change place, and he messed up a customer's car once.  He was really embarrassed by it, but he has the proper insurance for that very thing.  The lady got a new motor.


They paid to have it towed to the dealer who added oil, checked it out, and pronounced it fine.  It was the 4 liter Jeep straight 6, which is a nearly indestructible engine.
 
2014-06-28 12:27:46 AM
33,000 must seem like a refreshingly low number for them these days.
 
2014-06-28 12:28:05 AM
So glad my tax dollars kept this incompetent manufacturer of modern day Yugos afloat. What happened to all the Republicans saying the free market will take care of this? GM should have gone under.
 
2014-06-28 12:30:25 AM
lack of warmth:
Funny thing is, a Chevy dealership here started doing oil changes for $12.95 a couple years ago.  It is really messing with Jiffy Lube and walmart.  I've heard many horror stories about walmart's tech garages, and I quit going to them when it became clear they short the oil change by 1/2 quart every time.  Now I only trust myself with oil changes.

1/2 quart low is fine. They probably do it to make sure they don't overfill. It's a lot worse to have too much oil.
 
2014-06-28 12:34:15 AM

astouffer: So glad my tax dollars kept this incompetent manufacturer of modern day Yugos afloat. What happened to all the Republicans saying the free market will take care of this? GM should have gone under.


Free market is the culprit here. Cheap(est) supplier of airbag components is a mess. Ask Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda etc how they feel about Takata right now
 
2014-06-28 12:36:26 AM

SecretAgentWoman: I've got a 2010 Chevy Cobalt.

For the past 6 months, I've been getting a "your car is subject to a recall but we don't have the parts to fix it, stay tuned" letter every two weeks.

Meanwhile, I'm still alive. For now.


I had a 2004 Saturn Ion that would have been subject to the ignition recall. Hit 207000 miles before I traded it in... for a 2014 Cruze.

DOH
 
2014-06-28 12:37:37 AM

astouffer: So glad my tax dollars kept this incompetent manufacturer of modern day Yugos afloat. What happened to all the Republicans saying the free market will take care of this? GM should have gone under.


GM did go under and reorganized under Chapter 11.  A Chapter 7, total liquidation, would have been disastrous for the entire industry.  It would have taken out a lot of suppliers and likely had a ripple effect that may have forced Ford into reorganization and Chrysler into liquidation as well, plus hampered production on the import brands produced here.

Recalls aren't a bad thing.  Cars are complicated, and despite all of the testing done before launch problems still make it through.  Recalls are the company saying 'hey, we made a mistake, let us take care of it for you'.  No manufacturer releases any vehicle as absolutely perfect.  I'd much rather have a recall and have something fixed than have it swept under the rug and have to pay for a repair out of my own pocket, or even worse have a safety issue that leads to an injury.

GM has had a ton of recalls lately, but the big reason for that is the small car ignition switch debacle that's forcing them to be extra-cautious on everything else because there are a ton of prying eyes watching over their every move.  Add in a new CEO who wants to show that she's not like the other guys, and you have the recipe for what's going on.

Rick Wagoner did a number on GM, and the company is still reeling in his wake.
 
2014-06-28 12:38:35 AM

fusillade762: 33,000 must seem like a refreshingly low number for them these days.


It was a one month run with a bad shipment of components from Takata.
 
2014-06-28 12:43:05 AM

GardenWeasel: fusillade762: 33,000 must seem like a refreshingly low number for them these days.

It was a one month run with a bad shipment of components from Takata.


It must have been raining at the Mexican assembly for the units those weeks.
 
2014-06-28 12:56:18 AM
Given the many recalls and the squirming out of liability by "the old GM," how could I in clear conscience buy a GM vehicle - new or used?  With this knowledge I am partially responsible if I ended up inconvenienced by recalls or maimed by a safety defect.

There are way too many choices to have to resort to a manufacturer with this track record.

My last GM car was a '95 Saturn SL2.  Laugh all you want, it was an awesome car.  This was before Saturn was absorbed into the rest of the crap.  It seems silly to put different names on the same car - like Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Vue.

I have no brand loyalty because things change.  Hyundai used to be complete pieces of crap.   That Saturn was replaced with a Gen2 Prius that had its own share of recalls and unintended acceleration.

I've heard more than a few people call out Dodge as crap.  Meanwhile I have owned two Dodge trucks that have given me zero problems.   The current VW Routan is minivan is a re-badged Dodge Caravan.


GM is dead to me.  There are dozens of cars I'd pick over GM, including the Corvette.
 
2014-06-28 01:14:35 AM
With OEMs commonizing parts across different marques and platforms to save money don't be surprised if in a few years we have recalls of millions of cars at a time. Products from the Big 3 are more homogenous than they were in the badge engineering era when at least you could count on the engine being different, now the only real difference is displacement. The Japanese are starting to do it since the can no longer count on having a product that is definitely better (despite what the Big 3 haters say) so they try to scrimp every penny they can without making it apparent that their luxury cars are the same as their regular cars + leather. And the Germans have fallen in love with platforming literally cloning entire sections of a cars across completely different vehicle types from sub-compacts to mid-size SUVs (VW MQB and MLB platforms)
 
2014-06-28 01:23:54 AM
Wife found out a year ago she had a faulty airbag, They "recalled" it; now she pulls to the left.
 
2014-06-28 02:07:14 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: lack of warmth:
Funny thing is, a Chevy dealership here started doing oil changes for $12.95 a couple years ago.  It is really messing with Jiffy Lube and walmart.  I've heard many horror stories about walmart's tech garages, and I quit going to them when it became clear they short the oil change by 1/2 quart every time.  Now I only trust myself with oil changes.

1/2 quart low is fine. They probably do it to make sure they don't overfill. It's a lot worse to have too much oil.


shiat, I needed two quarts to touch the dip stick (went around a corner and got "stop engine, no oil") and the % oil life remaining said I was at 40%. If I'd changed at 50% I'd never have gotten that warning. Now I check each Sunday morning.

Having read the Popular Mechanics archives for the 1920s, we have it easy. A 1925 auto needed machining every 10k miles, oil every 500, and no such thing as PCV valves, oil or air filters.
 
2014-06-28 05:09:20 AM
Thank You, Government Bail-Out!

Also, Cash for Clunkers was a real winner.
 
2014-06-28 06:13:12 AM

DoctorCal: SecretAgentWoman: I've got a 2010 Chevy Cobalt.

For the past 6 months, I've been getting a "your car is subject to a recall but we don't have the parts to fix it, stay tuned" letter every two weeks.

Meanwhile, I'm still alive. For now.

Everything built in Lordstown is suspect. I can't begin to tell you what a clusterfark that place is.


Finally got my ignition fixed. Only took 3 months of "Your ignition is faulty" letters, followed by phone calls to dealer, followed by "We don't have the parts yet".
 
2014-06-28 07:50:55 AM
Took my town and country in for warranty work and now get " we want your van for our used car lot" robo junk mail. I called and asked how much they would give me. The vulture said $9k. And I have 235,000 miles on the van.
He didn't even ask about the mileage. Maybe I should trade it in.
 
2014-06-28 08:16:24 AM

TuteTibiImperes: astouffer: So glad my tax dollars kept this incompetent manufacturer of modern day Yugos afloat. What happened to all the Republicans saying the free market will take care of this? GM should have gone under.

GM did go under and reorganized under Chapter 11.  A Chapter 7, total liquidation, would have been disastrous for the entire industry.  It would have taken out a lot of suppliers and likely had a ripple effect that may have forced Ford into reorganization and Chrysler into liquidation as well, plus hampered production on the import brands produced here.


GM should have been allowed to go to the chopping block and the Government should never have bailed out the company.  That set a bad precedent for the automakers. No one knows what would have happened, so your statement is nothing but speculation.

GM has had a ton of recalls lately, but the big reason for that is the small car ignition switch debacle that's forcing them to be extra-cautious on everything else because there are a ton of prying eyes watching over their every move.  Add in a new CEO who wants to show that she's not like the other guys, and you have the recipe for what's going on.

GM has had a lot of recalls because the Government regulators are all up their collective asses; otherwise, 90% of the latest issues would have been covered by service bulletins.GM has cut corners and insisted it knew best since the 50s.

Rick Wagoner did a number on GM, and the company is still reeling in his wake.

Don't forget Bob Lutz.
 
2014-06-28 08:23:25 AM

Gary-L: TuteTibiImperes: astouffer: So glad my tax dollars kept this incompetent manufacturer of modern day Yugos afloat. What happened to all the Republicans saying the free market will take care of this? GM should have gone under.

GM did go under and reorganized under Chapter 11.  A Chapter 7, total liquidation, would have been disastrous for the entire industry.  It would have taken out a lot of suppliers and likely had a ripple effect that may have forced Ford into reorganization and Chrysler into liquidation as well, plus hampered production on the import brands produced here.

GM should have been allowed to go to the chopping block and the Government should never have bailed out the company.  That set a bad precedent for the automakers. No one knows what would have happened, so your statement is nothing but speculation.

GM has had a ton of recalls lately, but the big reason for that is the small car ignition switch debacle that's forcing them to be extra-cautious on everything else because there are a ton of prying eyes watching over their every move.  Add in a new CEO who wants to show that she's not like the other guys, and you have the recipe for what's going on.

GM has had a lot of recalls because the Government regulators are all up their collective asses; otherwise, 90% of the latest issues would have been covered by service bulletins.GM has cut corners and insisted it knew best since the 50s.

Rick Wagoner did a number on GM, and the company is still reeling in his wake.

Don't forget Bob Lutz.


Gary-L: TuteTibiImperes: astouffer: So glad my tax dollars kept this incompetent manufacturer of modern day Yugos afloat. What happened to all the Republicans saying the free market will take care of this? GM should have gone under.

GM did go under and reorganized under Chapter 11.  A Chapter 7, total liquidation, would have been disastrous for the entire industry.  It would have taken out a lot of suppliers and likely had a ripple effect that may have forced Ford into reorganization and Chrysler into liquidation as well, plus hampered production on the import brands produced here.

GM should have been allowed to go to the chopping block and the Government should never have bailed out the company.  That set a bad precedent for the automakers. No one knows what would have happened, so your statement is nothing but speculation.

GM has had a ton of recalls lately, but the big reason for that is the small car ignition switch debacle that's forcing them to be extra-cautious on everything else because there are a ton of prying eyes watching over their every move.  Add in a new CEO who wants to show that she's not like the other guys, and you have the recipe for what's going on.

GM has had a lot of recalls because the Government regulators are all up their collective asses; otherwise, 90% of the latest issues would have been covered by service bulletins.GM has cut corners and insisted it knew best since the 50s.

Rick Wagoner did a number on GM, and the company is still reeling in his wake.

Don't forget Bob Lutz.


True, it's speculation, but it's what many of the experts who analyzed the situation have predicted would have happened.  Plus, it would have screwed over hundreds of thousands of employees and retirees.   I still stand behind the bailout being the right call.

Bob Lutz is a complicated guy.  On one hand he has spearheaded the development of some of the coolest cars on the road, but on the other hand he's shown a lack of attention to detail when it comes to a lot of his projects.
 
2014-06-28 08:37:24 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: lack of warmth:
Funny thing is, a Chevy dealership here started doing oil changes for $12.95 a couple years ago.  It is really messing with Jiffy Lube and walmart.  I've heard many horror stories about walmart's tech garages, and I quit going to them when it became clear they short the oil change by 1/2 quart every time.  Now I only trust myself with oil changes.

1/2 quart low is fine. They probably do it to make sure they don't overfill. It's a lot worse to have too much oil.


It's not fine when a trained tech is suppose to fill the oil, not 'fill' the oil.  The average car takes 5 qt of oil, not 4.5 qt, that's why they sell oil in handy 5 qt jugs.  Walmart is already getting the oil dirt cheap by bulk rate, but cheats each and every customer 1/2 qt of oil.  If a vehicle varies from the 5 qt, it's usually more.  Whenever I pay for a service or buy something from 'professionals', I expect equal or better job than I can perform, or I will not use them again.  Having a slow leak and driving 1/2 qt low won't hurt the car, but fill it up when the oil is changed.  It pissed me off when they took time to point out to me that the van was 1/2 qt low, when they were the reason.  That's how I figured it was them, I checked right after an oil change from them, and wasn't none too pleased being told my one year old van had a leak when they were shorting it.

/It is not a challenge to drain oil, change filter, and pour 5 qt from a jug.
//Or in their case, put 5 qt from the hose.
///but I guess I'm crazy for expecting standards to be met, and not be lied to.
 
2014-06-28 08:52:44 AM
I am no fan of GM ( well, anything made past 1970) - They have been making bad cars consistently for almost 50 years, starting with the Vega, followed by the Citation, and so on to the present. At this point in my life, I have owned probably 25 cars and the last GM product was a 69 Camaro (which by the way was recalled for defective engine mounts - you can look it up).

However, they sell a hell of a lot of them, and they have a huge number of employees, and a shocking number of retirees.

There were two reasons (Okay, three) reasons that GM was not allowed to go out of business.

1. The ripple effect on the economy was a valid concern.   There are thousands of suppliers, transport companies, etc for GM and they would have been impacted severely, damaging the economy. Everyone knows about this one.

2. The second reason is that GM has so many retirees. The cost of GM pensions is a huge liability for the company. If GM had actually gone completely out of business, the cost of those pensions would have been transferred to something called the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation which is a government run pension insurance company. All companies with pensions contribute to a fund, and if a company's pension plan fails, retirees receive their pension from the PBGC. However, those pensions are a much reduced amount compared to the original pension promised by the company. Still, it beats nothing, which is what people would get without the PBGC.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/66xx/doc6657 /0 9-23-guidetopbgc.pdf

The problem is that the PBGC is already in the red (and has been since about the year 2000) and that tossing all the GM retirees on the fire would have collapsed the system, even through most of them would have ended up with sharply reduced benefits. The maximum amount from PBGC is $57,000 much less than that guy who slapped your Citation together in the 80's is drawing today. In any case, had the PBGC collapsed, since it is a government corporation, the taxpayer would have been required to step in and pick up the costs of those PBGC guaranteed pension forever or at least until the last GM worker died off maybe 50 years from now. Yes, this would have required substantial new taxes.

3. The third reason is, of course, the UAW's pull with the Democratic party. That's how they ended up with owning 17% of GM http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7681838 .  Although politically motivated, it was also kind of a clever move, since it put the UAW inside the tent pissing out, rather than outside the tent pissing in.... wondered why there haven't been any strikes in the new GM? Now you know.
 
2014-06-28 09:02:25 AM

DoctorCal: SecretAgentWoman: I've got a 2010 Chevy Cobalt.

For the past 6 months, I've been getting a "your car is subject to a recall but we don't have the parts to fix it, stay tuned" letter every two weeks.

Meanwhile, I'm still alive. For now.

Everything built in Lordstown is suspect. I can't begin to tell you what a clusterfark that place is.


I believe that Lordstown is the origin of the "Don't buy a car made on Monday or Friday" saying.

Mom was a psych nurse in Youngstown. GM workers would check themselves in to the hospital for a month of "stress remediation". Fully paid.
 
2014-06-28 09:30:49 AM

dolphinsgonwild: What a faulty airbag might look like...

[www.the360experiment.com image 300x353]


img.fark.net
FTFY
 
2014-06-28 10:25:49 AM

Gary-L: TuteTibiImperes: astouffer: So glad my tax dollars kept this incompetent manufacturer of modern day Yugos afloat. What happened to all the Republicans saying the free market will take care of this? GM should have gone under.

GM did go under and reorganized under Chapter 11.  A Chapter 7, total liquidation, would have been disastrous for the entire industry.  It would have taken out a lot of suppliers and likely had a ripple effect that may have forced Ford into reorganization and Chrysler into liquidation as well, plus hampered production on the import brands produced here.

GM should have been allowed to go to the chopping block and the Government should never have bailed out the company.  That set a bad precedent for the automakers. No one knows what would have happened, so your statement is nothing but speculation.

GM has had a ton of recalls lately, but the big reason for that is the small car ignition switch debacle that's forcing them to be extra-cautious on everything else because there are a ton of prying eyes watching over their every move.  Add in a new CEO who wants to show that she's not like the other guys, and you have the recipe for what's going on.

GM has had a lot of recalls because the Government regulators are all up their collective asses; otherwise, 90% of the latest issues would have been covered by service bulletins.GM has cut corners and insisted it knew best since the 50s.

Rick Wagoner did a number on GM, and the company is still reeling in his wake.

Don't forget Bob Lutz.


GM represents a huge portion of US heavy manufacturing capacity. Allowing it to be split up and sold off would damage our ability to defend ourselves in wartime and would take us down a huge notch in industrial prestige. It's a stupid idea and I hope you're not American because it's pretty unpatriotic of you as well.
 
2014-06-28 10:38:52 AM

lack of warmth: TuteTibiImperes: Yeah, pretty much all new cars don't need any major maintenance till after 100,000 miles.  I've found that things like oil changes and tire rotations aren't much more at the dealer than they are at Wal-Mart or Jiffy Lube, and it's worth it for me to spend the extra $10 to have it done by someone who knows what they're doing rather than whichever tech the discount places were able to find who was willing to work as cheap as possible.

I took my first car to Jiffy Lube for its first oil change (well, first for me, it was used and already had a bunch of miles) and they drained out the old oil but never put new oil back in.  I discovered this a little bit down the road when the engine seized.  I haven't been back to one since.

Funny thing is, a Chevy dealership here started doing oil changes for $12.95 a couple years ago.  It is really messing with Jiffy Lube and walmart.  I've heard many horror stories about walmart's tech garages, and I quit going to them when it became clear they short the oil change by 1/2 quart every time.  Now I only trust myself with oil changes.

On that second part, did they repair your car?  I have a friend who owns an oil change place, and he messed up a customer's car once.  He was really embarrassed by it, but he has the proper insurance for that very thing.  The lady got a new motor.


I'm the same way.

Quick advice to anyone doing their own auto maintenance. Buy a fumoto valve for your oil pan, makes oil changes a snap.
 
2014-06-28 10:45:57 AM

Pribar: generallyso: It's a slow day if there's only been one recall.

Maybe they ran out of models that hadn't yet been recalled?


My 2005 Buick Lacrosse hasn't had any recalls. Coming up on 100,000 miles with no problems. Pretty confident it won't become a flaming ball of death from a poorly manufactured radio knob or something. Previous car was a 1990 Le Sabre, donated it at 223,000 miles.
 
Zel
2014-06-28 11:42:23 AM

Lokkii: The maximum amount from PBGC is $57,000 much less than that guy who slapped your Citation together in the 80's is drawing today.


That's more than 90% of millenials are making with full time jobs.

Why are we not feeding these old people into wood chippers?
 
2014-06-28 11:45:51 AM

gopher321: nickdaisy: Have they run out of names for cars the same way they've run out of sports franchises?

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I'm waiting for the Chevy Catheter. Sort of goes along with the Ford Probe if you know what I mean...


It would have to be a Buick Catheter in order to cater to the correct demographic.
 
2014-06-28 12:11:08 PM
Japan's Takata Corp., which made the airbag

Tell me again about this hole saving American jobs thing.
 
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