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(Mother Jones)   Tobacco industry spends huge amounts of money to cover up how unhealthy their product is. Wait, did I say tobacco industry? I meant the sugar industry   (motherjones.com) divider line 66
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2014-06-27 11:02:46 AM  
Disco Stu seen heading back to rehab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H-tjtCFtKE
 
2014-06-27 11:12:52 AM  
Big Sugar is actually super farked up as an industry.
 
2014-06-27 11:50:00 AM  
They came for tobacco and I said nothing.
 
2014-06-27 12:20:39 PM  
img.fark.net
How much do they pay to convince people that broken glass, nails and blasting caps are "prizes"?
 
2014-06-27 12:31:08 PM  
To be fair, sugar and HFCS are fine in moderation.

Unfortunately, "present in significant quantities in practically everything you consume" =/= moderation. Sugar is toxic at the quantities we, as a nation, are consuming.
 
2014-06-27 01:27:00 PM  
There is a new label describing the %DV (daily value) of nutrients in various foods. Most recently I saw the label on the back of a Twix wrapper.

Sugars 24g *
* no DV available

So enjoy your candy, people. There is no limit to the amount you are recommended to eat.
 
2014-06-27 01:43:56 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2014-06-27 01:57:30 PM  
Ladies and gentlemen, The Archies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9nE2spOw_o
 
2014-06-27 02:50:02 PM  
I miss this stuff

theineptowl.com
 
2014-06-27 02:51:38 PM  

The_Sponge: Ladies and gentlemen, The Archies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9nE2spOw_o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLvQJILre6U
 
2014-06-27 02:51:40 PM  
The sugar industry... artificial prices, tariffs, import caps... making you spend more money on a crappier product to enrich others.

Ain't gov't grand?
 
2014-06-27 02:52:22 PM  

BalugaJoe: I miss this stuff

[theineptowl.com image 306x462]


Ugh, like eating tiny sugar-sweetened pieces of cardboard.
 
2014-06-27 02:52:40 PM  
This has been another message brought to you by the saccharin, aspartame and sucralose industries.  Thank you.
 
2014-06-27 02:54:02 PM  
Wait, wait, wait... are you guys saying that sugar is BAD for you?
 
2014-06-27 02:54:54 PM  
What? Coca cola is bad for you? Color me shocked!

As I recal, accidentally in hailing those Dixie Stix was pretty dangerous.
/yes, I'm old
 
2014-06-27 02:58:15 PM  
Oh, you fatties are in for a hell of a ride.  Enjoy!

/former smoker
 
2014-06-27 02:59:03 PM  
Hey, to be fair sugar is pretty much just pure energy in carbohydrate form. You want Americans to be energy independent, don't ya?
 
2014-06-27 03:00:12 PM  
Big Sugar isn't as evil as Big Corn
 
2014-06-27 03:00:43 PM  
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
 
2014-06-27 03:01:02 PM  
How funny is it that when I opened this Mother Jones article I got a Bentley ad?
 
2014-06-27 03:02:15 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: What? Coca cola is bad for you? Color me shocked!

As I recal, accidentally in hailing those Dixie Stix was pretty dangerous.
/yes, I'm old


Do you happen to mean Pixie Stix? Because I did a Google search for Dixie Stix and the Urban Dictionary entry is worrying.
 
2014-06-27 03:03:41 PM  

incendi: To be fair, sugar and HFCS are fine in moderation.

Unfortunately, "present in significant quantities in practically everything you consume" =/= moderation. Sugar is toxic at the quantities we, as a nation, are consuming.


Toxic? You're going to have to citate that.

Eating too many calories is bad, without question, and on average people in the first world eat far too many foods that are calorie-dense. I'm guilty of this but avoid being fat by running and cycling for 10-12 hours a week. If I ever stop working I'll be as big as a house a month later.
 
2014-06-27 03:04:26 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Big Sugar isn't as evil as Big Corn


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2014-06-27 03:06:15 PM  
you want sweet? Just make your own invert sugar. Might sweet and pretty cheap.
 
2014-06-27 03:06:53 PM  
... meanwhile, Big Pharma outpaces all others in spending money to cover up, well, everything.

"You think that's medicine you're taking?"
Nods, swallows.
"How quaint."
 
2014-06-27 03:07:29 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Big Sugar isn't as evil as Big Corn


And no one ever mentions Big Shrimp. I've heard they beat all for wealth, power, and underhanded rigging of studies, governmental and otherwise.
 
2014-06-27 03:07:37 PM  
First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women.
 
2014-06-27 03:08:59 PM  

Jument: Toxic? You're going to have to citate that.


Watch this lecture. Quantity is definitely a factor and in large quantities it works like poison.
 
2014-06-27 03:10:07 PM  

TappingTheVein: Jument: Toxic? You're going to have to citate that.

Watch this lecture. Quantity is definitely a factor and in large quantities it works like poison.


Thanks but TL;DW
 
2014-06-27 03:10:39 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: dolphinsgonwild: What? Coca cola is bad for you? Color me shocked!

As I recal, accidentally in hailing those Dixie Stix was pretty dangerous.
/yes, I'm old

Do you happen to mean Pixie Stix? Because I did a Google search for Dixie Stix and the Urban Dictionary entry is worrying.


uh, yes Pixie Stix. My bad. Had to look that up too. Oops!

/but then again...
 
2014-06-27 03:15:55 PM  
I can't help but wonder if all the genetic manipulation of our crops for increased yield/hectare etc. isn't having a much more adverse effect than we're being lead to believe, collectively.

Have vegetables *always* tasted this freaking awful? All I ever taste in most vegetables and many fruits like cucumber is bitter (though cucumbers smell quite good) and choking them down requires not insignificant amounts of Italian dressing. I don't have to drown it, but a "serving" just won't cut it.

I've recently heard that people are going back to heritage wheats etc. because a) they don't taste like crap without adding a metric truckload of sugar and b) there's actual nutritional value in them. But at something like $20/lb it would break the bank at my house.
 
2014-06-27 03:16:13 PM  
Had one of these bad boys the other day, and I was congratulating myself on how healthy it was based on all the friendly marketing messages on the bottle...
www.odwalla.com

...until I noticed that the second ingredient was "organic evaporated cane juice."

/you're not fooling anybody, cane juice
 
2014-06-27 03:18:28 PM  
That's an industry due a regulatory shellacking.

I say this as someone that really enjoys sweets.
 
2014-06-27 03:19:27 PM  
C'mon and give Big Daddy a little sugar, doll.


Oh, wait -
 
2014-06-27 03:20:09 PM  

Jument: Toxic? You're going to have to citate that.

Eating too many calories is bad, without question, and on average people in the first world eat far too many foods that are calorie-dense. I'm guilty of this but avoid being fat by running and cycling for 10-12 hours a week. If I ever stop working I'll be as big as a house a month later.


You should know that distance runners with horrible diets are not healthier than fat people with similar diets. Good luck out there. I'm not sure whether you or incendi are the shills here... must be both
 
2014-06-27 03:20:34 PM  

ajgeek: I can't help but wonder if all the genetic manipulation of our crops for increased yield/hectare etc. isn't having a much more adverse effect than we're being lead to believe, collectively.

Have vegetables *always* tasted this freaking awful? All I ever taste in most vegetables and many fruits like cucumber is bitter (though cucumbers smell quite good) and choking them down requires not insignificant amounts of Italian dressing. I don't have to drown it, but a "serving" just won't cut it.

I've recently heard that people are going back to heritage wheats etc. because a) they don't taste like crap without adding a metric truckload of sugar and b) there's actual nutritional value in them. But at something like $20/lb it would break the bank at my house.


Some veggies taste like crap because they're being grown off season and are picked and shipped before they're really ripe.

Store bought tomatoes are just depressing. Mmmm, solid strange tasting water on my sammich.
 
2014-06-27 03:22:04 PM  

ajgeek: I can't help but wonder if all the genetic manipulation of our crops for increased yield/hectare etc. isn't having a much more adverse effect than we're being lead to believe, collectively.

Have vegetables *always* tasted this freaking awful? All I ever taste in most vegetables and many fruits like cucumber is bitter (though cucumbers smell quite good) and choking them down requires not insignificant amounts of Italian dressing. I don't have to drown it, but a "serving" just won't cut it.

I've recently heard that people are going back to heritage wheats etc. because a) they don't taste like crap without adding a metric truckload of sugar and b) there's actual nutritional value in them. But at something like $20/lb it would break the bank at my house.


I think vegetables taste better than they ever have.
 
2014-06-27 03:25:17 PM  
Easy solution for me: no sugar tonight in my coffee, no sugar tonight in my tea. No sugar to stand beside me, no sugar to run with me.

/Na na na na na na na na, na na na na na na na!
 
2014-06-27 03:26:28 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Big Sugar isn't as evil as Big Corn


Is Hitler more evil than Stalin? Hard to choose between such evenly matched farkpuddles
 
2014-06-27 03:28:23 PM  

strathmeyer: I'm not sure whether you or incendi are the shills here... must be both


What? Who or what would I be shilling for, here? My case is simply that we're eating so damned much sugar that it's killing us, and we don't really notice because we put it in everything, even things we don't think of as particularly sugary.
 
2014-06-27 03:31:03 PM  

strathmeyer: Jument: Toxic? You're going to have to citate that.

Eating too many calories is bad, without question, and on average people in the first world eat far too many foods that are calorie-dense. I'm guilty of this but avoid being fat by running and cycling for 10-12 hours a week. If I ever stop working I'll be as big as a house a month later.

You should know that distance runners with horrible diets are not healthier than fat people with similar diets. Good luck out there. I'm not sure whether you or incendi are the shills here... must be both


Well, except for the diabeetus, blood pressure, sleep apnea. increased risk of heart disease and stroke, etc.
 
2014-06-27 03:34:41 PM  

BalugaJoe: I miss this stuff

[theineptowl.com image 306x462]


You know what else is called smack?

yea, carbs and heroin trigger similar reactions in the brain

Here's your brain

www.foodsubs.com

Here's your brain on carbs

2.bp.blogspot.com

Any questions?
 
2014-06-27 03:35:11 PM  
It's a vice, just tax it like cigarettes. We should also crank up the taxation of alcoholic beverages.

Don't you know how healthy we will be when cigarettes are $20/pack, a candy bar is $8, and a sixer of PBR is $30?!
 
2014-06-27 03:38:31 PM  

incendi: To be fair, sugar and HFCS are fine in moderation.


So is meth or heroin. A healthy 20 year old snorting a line of meth once a year will probably have very few immediate health issues. It's probably wiser to treat added sugar as a drug rather than as a food group. The issue is that it makes you eat more, and is very, VERY hard to get away from.
 
2014-06-27 03:48:20 PM  

uber humper: BalugaJoe: I miss this stuff

[theineptowl.com image 306x462]

You know what else is called smack?

yea, carbs and heroin trigger similar reactions in the brain

Here's your brain

[www.foodsubs.com image 123x117]

Here's your brain on carbs

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 227x178]

Any questions?


Can I get it with strawberry pie filling on it?
 
2014-06-27 03:52:52 PM  

ZeroPly: incendi: To be fair, sugar and HFCS are fine in moderation.

So is meth or heroin. A healthy 20 year old snorting a line of meth once a year will probably have very few immediate health issues. It's probably wiser to treat added sugar as a drug rather than as a food group. The issue is that it makes you eat more, and is very, VERY hard to get away from.


The heart association's recommendation of sugar is 20 grams for women and 36 for men. That's less than one can of coke.

Less than one serving is saying there is pretty much no safe level unless fractions of a serving are considered.
 
2014-06-27 03:53:02 PM  

Jument: incendi: To be fair, sugar and HFCS are fine in moderation.

Unfortunately, "present in significant quantities in practically everything you consume" =/= moderation. Sugar is toxic at the quantities we, as a nation, are consuming.

Toxic? You're going to have to cite that.

Eating too many calories is bad, without question, and on average people in the first world eat far too many foods that are calorie-dense. I'm guilty of this but avoid being fat by running and cycling for 10-12 hours a week. If I ever stop working I'll be as big as a house a month later.


FTFY
 
2014-06-27 03:54:56 PM  

mike_d85: uber humper: BalugaJoe: I miss this stuff

[theineptowl.com image 306x462]

You know what else is called smack?

yea, carbs and heroin trigger similar reactions in the brain

Here's your brain

[www.foodsubs.com image 123x117]

Here's your brain on carbs

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 227x178]

Any questions?

Can I get it with strawberry pie filling on it?


Strawberry filling? Ack

Be a real man and eat keish
 
2014-06-27 03:55:58 PM  

strathmeyer: Jument: Toxic? You're going to have to citate that.

Eating too many calories is bad, without question, and on average people in the first world eat far too many foods that are calorie-dense. I'm guilty of this but avoid being fat by running and cycling for 10-12 hours a week. If I ever stop working I'll be as big as a house a month later.

You should know that distance runners with horrible diets are not healthier than fat people with similar diets. Good luck out there. I'm not sure whether you or incendi are the shills here... must be both


I wouldn't say my diet is "horrible". It's not ideal. It's probably worse than many people with my activity level. But it is not as bad as the average 250+ lb McFattyPants.

But I think your statement is BS. I have a low resting HR, perfect BP and cholesterol numbers, etc. Every time a nurse takes my pulse and BP they ask if I am a runner. I attribute that to my activity, not to my moderately-crappy diet.
 
2014-06-27 03:56:05 PM  

August11: ElwoodCuse: Big Sugar isn't as evil as Big Corn

And no one ever mentions Big Shrimp.


Unimpressed:

img.fark.net
 
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