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2014-06-27 11:20:26 AM  
http://discovermagazine.com/2009/feb/13-is-quantum-mechanics-controll i ng-your-thoughts
and
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/do-subatomic-particles-have-free -w ill


And most importantly:  http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/quantum-physics-free-will/


1. Quantum mechanics is indeterministic, in that the outcomes of measurements are chosen at random from the slate of possibilities. So, if quantum effects help to shape our conscious choices, they sever the connection between us and the initial conditions of the universe.

2. When we conduct experiments on quantum particles, we exercise our free will-for example, we make choices about what precisely to ask of the particles.  Or at least wethink we exercise our free will. How those particles respond can depend on whether we really do.

3. If you could predict someone's decisions consistently, you could conclude that he or she lacks free will. To do that, you'd need to take a full brain scan and simulate his or her thought processes. Yet quantum physics forbids the reliable, nondestructive copying of particles, let alone whole brains. If you could never observe the loss of free will, then you should doubt whether it is ever really lost.

4. Quantum physics is time-symmetric, so we are as justified in saying that our choices set the cosmic initial conditions as the other way round.


I'm suggesting that perhaps the (hypothetical) quarks in our consciousness are influencing our study of the Higgs Boson. (More appropriately, the outcome of the study of the Higgs.) In other words, it's the observer effect again.
 
2014-06-27 01:43:14 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm suggesting that perhaps the (hypothetical) quarks in our consciousness are influencing our study of the Higgs Boson. (More appropriately, the outcome of the study of the Higgs.) In other words, it's the observer effect again.


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2014-06-27 02:04:05 PM  
www.clipartbest.com
 
2014-06-27 02:11:42 PM  
This thread does not exist.
 
2014-06-27 02:31:48 PM  

Archie Goodwin: This thread does not exist.


Your comment about the non-existence of this thread does not exist. Ergo, the thread exists.

/QED.
 
2014-06-27 02:33:12 PM  
FTA: "...now scientists are convinced:The universe doesn't exist.  Or at least it shouldn't."

Now I'm convinced: This article doesn't exist. Or at least it shouldn't.

/*shudder*
 
2014-06-27 03:06:42 PM  
Alcohol was created so we'd stop worrying about sh*t like this.
 
2014-06-27 03:08:02 PM  
IT took $10 billion, the world's largest particle accelerator and decades of research, but now scientists are convinced: The universe doesn't exist.

Science is such a waste of money.
 
2014-06-27 03:09:43 PM  
The Standard Model is definitive; it is the Universe that is frequently in error.
 
2014-06-27 03:10:17 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Alcohol was created so we'd stop worrying about sh*t like this.


Or was sh*t like this created so that we can create new Alcohol sensations.

http://www.gizmag.com/wahh-quantum-sensations-alcohol-spray/22458/
 
2014-06-27 03:22:12 PM  
It took $10 billion, the world's largest particle accelerator and decades of research, but now scientists are convinced: The universe doesn't exist.

Well, that's $10 billion that doesn't exist any more.
 
2014-06-27 03:25:06 PM  

edmo: [www.clipartbest.com image 850x850]


Took a second.
 
2014-06-27 03:25:24 PM  
"We need more money."
 
2014-06-27 03:51:12 PM  
Because People in power are Stupid:

I'm suggesting that perhaps the (hypothetical) quarks in our consciousness are influencing our study of the Higgs Boson. (More appropriately, the outcome of the study of the Higgs.) In other words, it's the observer effect again.

I don't know what the hell you just said, but you've convinced me that everything I've ever seen on Doctor Who is now possible. We're all probably living in a parallel universe and the Daleks have invaded Earth prime.

Or.. scientists have finally come to the point where the tech far exceeds their limited understanding of the universe and their pulling stuff out of their collective asses to explain everything.
 
2014-06-27 04:05:21 PM  
Ceci nest pas une universe.
 
2014-06-27 04:42:47 PM  
I am a liar.

Everything I say is a lie.
 
2014-06-27 05:24:58 PM  
KISS
Occam's razor

Why do they always absurdly take an idea to an extreme??
Chill.


Reality works...your models may not.
Don't worry...you "may" figure it out some day.


Or...if you do...there will likely be another question.
Sike!


Enjoy the ride.
Read "Hitchhiker's" again.
 
2014-06-27 05:29:37 PM  

SpdrJay: I am a liar.

Everything I say is a lie.


Ain't that the truth.
 
2014-06-27 05:30:55 PM  

rogue49: Sike!


Oh geez.
 
2014-06-27 06:46:39 PM  

Ed Grubermann: edmo: [www.clipartbest.com image 850x850]

Took a second.


:)
 
2014-06-28 02:44:56 AM  

sendtodave: IT took $10 billion, the world's largest particle accelerator and decades of research, but now scientists are convinced: The universe doesn't exist.

Science is such a waste of money.


I know, right?  Imagine how many brown people they could have killed with that money.  The world would be a better place if only we hadn't wasted that money on fancy sciencey stuff.
 
2014-06-28 11:25:58 AM  

Neondistraction: sendtodave: IT took $10 billion, the world's largest particle accelerator and decades of research, but now scientists are convinced: The universe doesn't exist.

Science is such a waste of money.

I know, right?  Imagine how many brown people they could have killed with that money.  The world would be a better place if only we hadn't wasted that money on fancy sciencey stuff.


Can you even imagine a world without brown people? Lutefisk, accordion music and river dancing as far as the eye can see!

It would be a cornucopia of wonderlands as far as the eye can see!
 
2014-06-29 01:06:19 AM  

SpdrJay: I am a liar.

Everything I say is a lie.


It isn't quite the paradox you think it is.  While I accept the first statement, the second statement is itself a lie and therefore not everything you say is a lie.
 
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